Arsenal Outmuscled by Everton

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Arsenal Outmuscled by Everton


Let’s be fair, Arsenal have rode their luck a bit this season, and last night at Goodison it came undone. It was a close game that could have gone either way, but ultimately, the visitors left empty-handed because they were not strong or organised enough at the back for the two headers from which Everton scored. Would a fit Mustafi have made a difference? It’s irrelevant now.

The only change from the team that beat Stoke was that Bellerin started, due to Mustafi’s injury. Don’t change a winning team won out over rotation. Arsenal largely dominated the play in the early stages as Everton sat back and Sanchez deflected free kick gave them a lead. Things looked comfortable at that stage, but the sleeping beast had been aroused, and we saw a different side to Ronald Koeman’s starting eleven as the rest of the half developed, helped in no small way by a vociferous crowd. If only we could have such passion at the E******s…

The equaliser came before the interval as Theo Walcott was left for dead by Leighton Baines, whose cross was met by his fellow full-back Colman. He hadn’t been properly tracked and had a free header. Game on.

Arsenal should have taken the lead shortly after the re-start, when Sanchez set Ozil up on a plate. A player asking for the kind of wages the German’s agent will doubtless be trying to negotiate should have scored, but it proved a costly miss as it sailed over the crossbar. Still, even Lionel Messi misses the occasional easy chance.

By this time, it was turning into a long ball game, certainly for Everton, for whom Lukaku was immense, and at times, the Toffees’ pressing meant that Wenger’s team could not play it out from the back and had to hit the ball and hope. Olivier Giroud was brought on at the same time as Alex Iwobi for Theo and the Ox to try and fight fire with fire.

Everton won a late corner that TV later established, should have been a goal-kick. No matter, they should have dealt better with it, but physically, they were outmuscled as no-one put up any resistance to the onrushing Ashley Williams who converted with ease.

Arsenal didn’t give up. They threw the kitchen sink at it by replacing Coquelin with Perez for the concluding minutes, Phil Jagielka was sent off in injury time for a second yellow, Petr Cech made two forays into the Everton box and Iwobi cruelly had a shot cleared off the line. It could have ended 2-2, or 3-1 to the Koeman’s side at the death, but it remained 2-1.

Arsenal trooped off dejected, an opportunity spurned. They have certainly played worse and got something from the game on other occasions this season, and the passion shown by Everton was mystifying in the light of recent results, but playing capable teams when they are on such a run – especially at their place – is often a minefield. That it was a difficult game should not have been a surprise to anyone.

So, a difficult away trip. The thing is, Arsenal have not faced too many of these in the Premier League this season. Given they still have to go to Man City, Liverpool, Tottenham, Chelsea, Stoke and Southampton (six matches from which they took five points last season), the odds are against them. Chelsea, without any European distractions, are going to be difficult to beat, given how well they have performed since switching to Antonio Conte’s favoured three at the back formation. They won at the Etihad, something Arsenal really need to try and match if they are to have any illusions of maintaining a serious title challenge (given the fixtures ahead).

Looking at Arsenal’s commitments after the New Year, my eye is drawn to a sequence of matches in early March. Liverpool away, Bayern at home in the second leg of the Champions League and (if Arsenal have made it), an FA Cup Quarter Final. Within the space of a week, the season might have an all too familiar feel to it.

Could this year be any different? Arsene’s advocates will still maintain it can. Those that believe the club can never win another league title until Le Boss moves on will not be so optimistic. The club are employing the services of sports psychologist Dr Ceri Evans. I would imagine he will be needed between now and Sunday, as going into Christmas with a defeat at the Etihad could leave the Gunners nine points behind Chelsea. Not so much a case of Yo-ho-ho as Oh-no-no.

Of course, it is too early to write Arsenal’s chances off after a second defeat of the season. Chelsea might not win at Sunderland tonight, and might not win at the weekend when they visit Crystal Palace. Football isn’t that predictable. And Arsenal might respond and take three points at Manchester City. However, one thing I will predict. If Chelsea are nine points clear of the Gunners when we are opening our presents, Arsene Wenger won’t be lifting the Premier League trophy next May.

Let’s see what happens. Last night was a body blow, but it’s too early to say it’s terminal. It just has that feeling at the moment. In fairness Everton are undefeated at home in the Premier League this season, and Arsenal could have won this game, based on their performance. A draw was probably a fair result, but wins are more important. Two draws against Everton and Manchester City are of less use than a defeat and a win. Arsenal can afford to lose a few games if they can get shot of draws which are only worth a point. A run of wins is required, so we will reconvene after the weekend and see how the land is lying.

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  1. Petrovic

    Dec 18, 2016, 22:17 #95831

    ....and the capitulation begins! No surprise there and once again everyone else to blame!

  2. Rob

    Dec 18, 2016, 21:17 #95820

    Nine points, it now is. Draw your own conclusions!

  3. mbg

    Dec 15, 2016, 16:09 #95678

    Nick, I also hear where your coming from, and most certainly don't think wenger is the man for the job and have thought that for nigh on five seasons now and as far as i'm concerned have never been proved wrong, and for what it's worth no matter what were to happen this season would still think it, like yourself I always want us to win (although some might find that hard to believe) but when we're beat nearly always of wengers making after all he signs the players, trains, coaches (cough) picks them, picks the team, ensures the way they play etc etc, I take delight in the fact it's another nail in his coffin, not the team getting beat, and another step closer to his exit whether up stairs or not, I just thought i'd point that out to a sensible poster such as yourself, the point I was trying to make in the comment you mention is the fact no matter what happens there's always those who will make excuse after excuse after excuse for him, and use them to defend him (true or not) rub of the green or not, will always take comfort in every little crumb of doubt will always use the excuses (true or not)as a little comfy blanket if you like over and over to hang on to rather than admit he's finished.

  4. John F

    Dec 15, 2016, 16:02 #95676

    Don't forget Welbeck is due back soon and will be heralded as a new signing until he is off again.Payet would be good .

  5. Mark from Aylesbury

    Dec 15, 2016, 14:15 #95669

    Nick - I think we all know where your coming from. The interesting one that Manure and Chav fans have had in recent times is, if we loose 4 on the trot or similar do we secretly wish a further loss to remove the Manager or support the boys whatever happens. The disconnect is the board who I'll advisedly back him whatever happens, fearful to censor but promote him to the heavens in ludicrous situations such as we momentarily go top and Ivan starts spouting I can't ever imagine him leaving. Next week we inevitably lose. A fair proportion of the crowd go "be careful what you wish for" and prattle on about lovely football when our successful time under Wenger was far more pressing high tempo than tippy tappy. It's a recipe for continual unhappiness. My main thing to cling onto is that Wengo is losing authority big by bit, by passed and surpassed by so many. He's out on his legs.

  6. Nick

    Dec 15, 2016, 11:59 #95662

    Mgb I have been firmly in the Wenger out side for some time now i do not believe he is a manager capable of producing a top side his excuses have all run out and last season's title Win by Leicester proves that ! However I still ALWAYS want us to win and I would be more than happy if the old geezer proved me wrong so when you deride those who say of the Everton loss that they got the rub of the green with decisions and that bad finishing aligned to sloppy defending were integral reasons for our defeat I fail to see what your trying to achieve because the aforementioned is undeniable FACT ! That and the other FACT that we didn't play as well as we can do ! Being critical of Wenger is one thing and he has brought such critique on his own head but denying and mocking people who simply point out valid reasons for what went wrong on a particular night is sort of petty I'd say , my own assessment was and is that after games like that a proper man manager would use the officials errors as a means to fire up and motivate his players for the next match especially one as important as the city game he would ala George Graham create an us against the world mentality and instill a burning passion among our team to prove everyone and their dog WRONG ! I don't think Wenger is the man to do that he isn't a valiant captain whose men would foLlow to the gates of hell he's more like a distant general who oversees a battle from a safe vantage point and only ever wins if the dice all fall in his favour ! I may detest our general but I always want our troops to carry the day as they represent US !

  7. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    Dec 15, 2016, 11:07 #95661

    Arsene Wenger's Arsenal; the gift that keeps on giving. (Three points to needy opposition, that is).

  8. GS

    Dec 15, 2016, 7:09 #95660

    Nick T : DT always gives a fair assessment and fair play to him, he travels all over following Afc and the players can't be bothered to put a shift in he and others have every right to say it as it is . As for Ty , dear me , he is a walking Arsenal merchandise model, with power puff views and ready made excuses for wengers shortcomings .......season deciding games are coming sooner than expected , it "could" all be over before the Christmas decorations come down.

  9. Leek the Squeek

    Dec 15, 2016, 6:39 #95659

    Jamee - we've had some good times together in your pretty caravan. The pain you cause me only makes it better. But why won't you acknowledge me? Why cause me such pain? I know you like me (I know you like me) I know you do (I know you do) That's why whenever I come around He's all over you (he's all over you) I know you want it (I know you want it) It's easy to see (it's easy to see) And in the back of your mind I know you should be on with me (babe) Don't cha wish your boyfriend was hot like me? Don't cha wish your boyfriend was a freak like me? Don't cha? Don't cha? Don't cha wish your boyfriend was raw like me? Don't cha wish your boyfriend was fun like me? Don't cha? Don't cha?

  10. mbg

    Dec 15, 2016, 0:24 #95658

    Bonzo, jw, yes a very bad night at the office for Arsenal and TOF, i'd imagine his ego took a whack, (no helping hand or favours tonight) now I wonder who's fault that was ? and who was to, and going to get the blame ? wenger out.

  11. mbg

    Dec 14, 2016, 23:35 #95657

    My I am flattered tonight, so many followers and admirers, obviously i'm doing something right, no doubt you all know who's who.

  12. Nick T

    Dec 14, 2016, 23:21 #95656

    Last night is just another classic example of why not all gooners spout utter crap and start dancing around like little schoolgirls after a string of victories against bang average toilet like Wham and St*ke. Say what you like about that DT bloke from AFTV but he's on the money everytime.....as for clowns like Ty words fail me!!

  13. CT Gooner

    Dec 14, 2016, 22:58 #95655

    Nice review Kev. I especially appreciate your summary of where we are at and what's ahead. Hard not seeing us in the top 4 though, so the club will likely still throw that in our face as he signs a new contract and sells Sanchez. My faith will be tested if that happens.....

  14. Lee afc

    Dec 14, 2016, 22:55 #95654

    Several people (?) on here with a raving hard on since we lost last night..... The dog will get it tonight for sure... !!!!!!!!

  15. Paul Ward

    Dec 14, 2016, 22:54 #95653

    First we draw Bayern Munich, then we lose at Everton, then every one of our enemies secure 3 points, not a great few days I think we can all agree. A repeat at the weekend will leave our season and the managers tenure hanging by a thread .

  16. jeff wright

    Dec 14, 2016, 22:53 #95652

    Tbh the league table looks more realistic sh*te defending and the fools whinging about the ref's decisons is not going to change that fact .Glum and Glummer looked even more glum and glummer last night after Glummer's rather fortuitous free-kick that was going nowhere somehow ended up in the back of the Everton net but it all went tits up in the end . Keystone Kos and co produced some familiar Sunday pub league type defending to allow Everton to win the points with a brace of easy headers. You don't win titles defending like this and Bayern Munich will hardly be trembling in their boots at the thought of facing Wengo(yawn) and Wally and the rest of the bearded garden gnomes . Every result tonight went against Wengo(yawn) and really rubbed his long nose in it.With United ,now looking like they have found a formula and with Pogbo starting to do what he was bought to do Wengo's (yawn) long tenure of occupying a top 4 place ( other than the first one natch) is looking increasingly under threat Chelsea could have the top spot done and dusted by Christmas ,so er, how come we are 6 points and probably more after Sunday, behind them >? Answers as usual on a pre-paid of course post-card to : Monsieur Wenger .Comfy Zone.La La La Land .N5 FUKU.

  17. mbg

    Dec 14, 2016, 22:27 #95651

    Everton not beaten at home, they got rub of the green, poor finishing lack of concentration, some AKB's will believe and hang on to every little comfy blanket excuse crumb of hope they can think of such is their belief in their messiah, you really have to laugh. wenger out now.

  18. mbg

    Dec 14, 2016, 22:02 #95650

    Same old Clouseau, well said, rectify our weaknesses, or learn from mistakes, as you say this side/TOF hasn't done that for eleven years so he's not going to now, arrogance or doesn't know how take your pick, i'm just surprised one of his mouth pieces hasn't come out and told (those who listen and believe they work on it on the training ground) we will learn from this and put it right, like they always do, but of course never do, that's beneath TOF, until it happens again and again and it will continue to.

  19. Bonzo

    Dec 14, 2016, 21:30 #95649

    Looks like it was a Southampton away moment. The day you knew Arsenal were not going to trouble the title challengers. As things stand this is a very bad day for Arsenal. Wengo shows once again his incapacity to drive his team under pressure to a performance that will frighten the rest of the league. The others can now rest easy knowing we will bottle it. Arjen Robens words stand out "we play to win the champions league, Arsenal play to achieve the last 16". If a Simeone was manager the little baldie Prat would regret those words, with Wengo we just have to suck it up like untold times before.

  20. Mad Monk

    Dec 14, 2016, 21:04 #95648

    Love the way some people attempt to defend that display do they really not understand have they become Arsenal fan's for only this season. It's not the defeat it's the manner of the defeat it's the non tactics the usual subs and the unwillingness of some of the player's to fight for us. The moron's on Untold moan about how we were roughed up with no protection from a corrupt referee.... what a load of bollox we just basically for the last 12 year's have had lightweights ie Walcott Ozil and as good as he is going forward Bellerin needs to toughen up. Bayern certainly are ****ting themselves eh Walcott!

  21. Same old Clouseau

    Dec 14, 2016, 20:48 #95647

    Leekie come up with a constructive counter argument

  22. jjetplane

    Dec 14, 2016, 20:44 #95646

    What if Wengo won a top trophy ever again .... lol! more chance of Jamee owning up to his deviancy while under biblical stress (BS) ..... Other news Citeh, Totts, Chelski, Scousers winning ....

  23. Leek fc

    Dec 14, 2016, 20:34 #95645

    What if, what if ??. The old negative virus is well and truly back for the O.G clan.

  24. CORNISH GOONER

    Dec 14, 2016, 20:33 #95644

    Probably a touch unlucky last night which partly reversed the massive good fortune we have enjoyed overall this season. I think there are more fighters in this current squad - but what's the bloody point, to quote Basil Fawlty, if you have a "Manuel" in charge of not only the team but also the Club? Quite amazingly Pep, of all people says he fears the sack. Arthur, silly old fool, probably doesn't even know what "the sack"is! I have sworn a lot today.

  25. Paul Ward

    Dec 14, 2016, 19:46 #95643

    Let's not forget that the Toffees are unbeaten at home this season and that they got the rub of the green last night. Not disastrous and I don't really agree we were outmuscled, every time we lose an away game , which isn't often, there is a lot of guff about us being bullied. We lost because of some poor finishing and a lack of concentration at the back. Badly need a favour or two tonight, or 9 behind and sitting 4 th a real possibility come 6pm Sunday.

  26. Bonzo

    Dec 14, 2016, 19:21 #95642

    Leekey - yes brilliant we weren't relegated but we are a step nearer Wengo and his troublesome zip disappearing out of Arsenal and I suspect forgotten very quickly. If Chelsea build up a head of steam to do a "Leicester" Wengo has lost any moral authority to remain at the helm and I suspect we will see the ending of his time with us. UTD did us a favour in Fergie bodging the transition so brilliantly so I suspect a lot less input from Wengo will be accepted. As per the Gooner Podcast I expect Ivan will call on his contacts to help him recommend a new Manager. As I've said before get your PSG scarf ready. You don't like Arsenal only Arsene so you can transition along with him.

  27. Seven Kings Gooner

    Dec 14, 2016, 18:59 #95641

    An opposing player getting a free header in our box has been a constant for the last 10 years and would have been for the last 20 years but for players like Adams, Campbell and Keown. Ron you are so right about needing someone to get ugly for 10 minutes when things are n't going our way - I thought that is why we bought Xhaka but obviously our leader is removing all hints of aggression from him, he has certainly cut out his long range shooting that saw him score a couple of great goals earlier in the season. As for the game we just gave "a sucker a second chance" - should have all been over by half time.

  28. mbg

    Dec 14, 2016, 18:31 #95640

    A true wenger statement of intent.

  29. Arseneknewbest

    Dec 14, 2016, 18:13 #95639

    ...or the pathetic way in which Feo decides far too late to track Baines and then compounds the error by rushing in and giving said Baines a light year in which to make a pinpoint cross. Feo's error was the turning point that led to the defeat. He's **** and should be nowhere near the team.

  30. Same old Clouseau

    Dec 14, 2016, 17:39 #95638

    Leekie have a look at Ozil cacking himself as Roberts comes in for the winner and come up with an argument for why this side is suddenly going to rectify its weaknesses that every other sane fan has pointed out for years

  31. Leek fc

    Dec 14, 2016, 17:10 #95637

    Yaaaaawwwwwwnnnn. Have we just been relegated !!!?!?!?.

  32. Mark

    Dec 14, 2016, 17:05 #95636

    NO ONE has ever Played their way to the title and never will do in England. Arsenal have too many Players who simply go missing when the physical side of the game Comes up. Basic disciplines fall to pieces when the heat is turned up. like marking Players at set-pieces. this is because Arsenal do NOT Train that way, do not practice such things which are very boring for the likes of Oz, Alexil, Theo, Iwob, Ox, etc. Style and Steel are what is needed and what was always needed to win in England.

  33. mbg

    Dec 14, 2016, 16:46 #95635

    jj, yes I loved that one myself from Ronnie, he has TOF well figured out alright (like all the others)not only on the pitch but off it too, so easy to make a fool off, another one for the AKB's to hate. wenger out now.

  34. anthony walters

    Dec 14, 2016, 16:28 #95634

    ron in all honesty i am quite happy with what we have it's how wenger uses it that worries me .i do think we have far and away the best squad in the division maybe not 1 to 11 .it s the mentality of this is what we need to do to win and switch things accordingly.a quality winger wouldn't go amiss but last season being an example we must have conceded 6 goals from central defenders turning backs .how can that be a winning mentality.i do think we have improved but will it be enough and the manager see the basic needs of certain games and situations.it doesn't look promising on our big matches so far this season.

  35. Ron

    Dec 14, 2016, 15:41 #95632

    anthony - good comments. last night was a game that i thought showed precisely that the centre of our midfield was again and still is badly lacking a Vieira, Keane, Petitt type. We needed some ability to drag the game back down to a level WE wanted as they upped the ante. A Wanyama even or a Matic or a Ya Ya Toure or a Scott Parker type, or even a Kevin damn Nolan ffs type disrupting play and generally being a nuisance, to niggle and annoy the opposition, break them up and halt them. This is what you do when a team gets up a head of steam. Going toe to toe cant always work, esp when its a night when youre missing the chances you do get. Additionally, we need a specialist wide player still. Nobody at that Club can consistently cross to Giroud. Bringing Giroud on last night was a waste of time. Arsenal still need a quality central marksman too. Sanchez isnt it. It constrains him too much playing there. We shd do with him what Chelsea do with Hazard i.e let him do what he wants when he wants. Wengers tip tappy tip tap toe philosophy wont allow much of the above though and we cant have the philosophy ignored can we!

  36. anthony walters

    Dec 14, 2016, 15:25 #95631

    everyone put in a good shift and played well walcott and ozil apart both well below par.gooneron your assesment is always good and honest however the worry is against all the sides around us so far we have only beat chelsea .man u and spurs we were lucky to draw and beaten by liverpool and everton.no doubt our squad is stronger than in a decade but the line between success and failure is small.last year leicester when not scoring loads won 1-0 numerous times and chelsea have done that this season.game management on the field and off is critical walcott running at baines aimlessly allowing him to cross just before half time was dreadful.having managed played and coached teams at local level i know armchair expertise is easy to dish out but having got the back 4 working well and xhaka and coquelin protecting them well these days the conundrum is ozil walcott and ramsey and in particular how to use them in away games where we are pressed .ozil cannot seem to handle it and should have been hooked last night.last night as the game was developing i would have left ox on took walcott and ozil off put perez right giroud up top with sanchez .another option may have been switching to a front 3 of sanchez giroud perez ox ahead of xhaka and coq.all is not lost but i still worry wengers indulgence of rambo ozil and walcott over tactical necessity and balance in the toughest of fixtures will again cost us dearly in the league.

  37. mbg

    Dec 14, 2016, 15:07 #95630

    Simon, spot on, yes TOF would still manage to fook it up and grab defeat from the jaws of victory (and not for the first time)but you can bet as far as him and his AKB wengerites would be concerned it would be all someone else's fault.

  38. mbg

    Dec 14, 2016, 14:13 #95629

    Exeter, this being more resilient now crap that we keep hearing is exactly that, it's just spin from TOF and his mouthpieces (that the sheep are of course falling for and believing), we're just the same old wenger one dimensional softies we've/they've ever been, and nothing will change until he's gone. Go now old man.

  39. John F

    Dec 14, 2016, 14:12 #95628

    GS my thoughts exactly,i always suspected that Wenger puts the team on the field with one way of playing then if it goes wrong he thinks the players intelligence will work it out.This was highlighted when Ramsey claimed the players had a meeting to decide what tactics to play Man city when we won there a couple of years ago.Ex players often say how they enjoyed working under Wenger with Keown saying he was like a father figure to his players which may explain his loyalty to certain players.I have heard them say he changed their diets and extended their careers but never that he was a great tactician.Parlour said that Wenger would say very little at half time and Dixon during the Hull final before extra time when Wenger appeared to be telling the players what to do ,said "you don't see Arsene do that very often".All telling comments from players who dare not criticise him due to his power in the club and may find themselves banished if they do.

  40. Nick

    Dec 14, 2016, 14:03 #95627

    Some on here obviously don't understand the game saying a ref does NOT influence the outcome of SOME games is idiotic ! We all know goals change the flow of a game and when the goal comes as a direct result of an officials gaff then simple LOGIC tells us the decision DID indeed affect the match! To say otherwise is ridiculous! Yes after that it is up to the team and manager to RESPOND and ours didn't last night as I said earlier we were also masters of our own demise through poor finishing and slack defending but an officials influence cannot be discounted! Don't get me wrong we lost last night mainly because we weren't good enough to win it but chance and error DO play a part !

  41. Exeter Gunner

    Dec 14, 2016, 13:36 #95626

    GoonerRon - I believe you make honest appraisals and do 'say it how you see it' but there's so much you don't see (Ron's just pointed out some of it you). That's how you're able to keep supporting Wenger. You just don't have that insight.

  42. Bonzo

    Dec 14, 2016, 13:33 #95625

    Jamee - you really do need to grow that pair, man up and stop whining like a little AKB girls blouse I.e. Sounding like Squeak. Old Man Wengo shrivelling by the day in that Anorak of his looks an old has been. Koeman and his teams from 2 classes below are continually beating Wengo and he's enjoying the joke much like Maureen in previous years. The test was set and once again the team fail. I'll give you one thing at least you come on here to bleat unlike cowardly Squeek who won't be seen till we win again.

  43. mbg

    Dec 14, 2016, 13:31 #95624

    It was all the ref's fault and the old conspiracy theories being resurrected again, is there petition coming on ? You couldn't make it up. wenger out now.

  44. mbg

    Dec 14, 2016, 13:09 #95623

    Augustus, yes, how many times have they done that over the years, you can bet the TOF and his well groomed, preened and nice smelling nice boys arrived at Goodison strutting like peacocks with complacency hanging out of them thinking they've arrived after listening to all the hype and spin with bigger fish to fry syndrome just having to turn up to beat ragged out of form Everton, and as usual when they realised their mistake (that's if they realised it and it wasn't somebody else's fault) it was to late and they, (and their old past it manager spitting venom at the ref trudged back to the dressing room having been brought back down to earth with a sore arse(again). wenger out now.

  45. jjetplane

    Dec 14, 2016, 12:51 #95622

    Jamerson - grow a pair and stop whining. Thought you was a Southwold contender lol! Loving Koeman with his if Wenger says so it must be .... Hughsie said the same on Saturday. Wengo is the proverbial old git no one likes. All this **** about referees is boring. We all know they are panto villians but a team that loses does it because they are ill-prepared, arrogant, lazy, money mad & pretty mediocre. Loving Asano & that Toffees crowd!

  46. Ron

    Dec 14, 2016, 12:44 #95621

    GR - Hi mate. 25 tackles to our 13 i think according to SKY. No clear dominance as you say, but we visibly wilted when they stepped it up 10 mins before half time. In my view at 1-0 Asl went into cruise mode, thinking it was job done. The Club has done that for yrs. So arrogant and ts got Wengers fingerprints all over that attitude. Asl have no clue how to slow a game down and take the sting from the other team, thats rank bad coaching of something that semi pro players learn all of the time. 2nd half we didnt look like scoring until those last gasp off the line clearances. Evrtn deserved their win for their endeavour alone. Asl have not coped with endeavour and physicality for a decade and even longer than that in truth. We were once proudly a Club who other Clubs didnt fancy playing as we knew how to mix it. We are and have been a powder puff team for a decade or more now. Our talents will win more games than we lose, as has been proved, but when push comes to shove ASL have been seen lacking for far too long. Last night was commendable in one way in that we kept it at 2-1 while playing with 9 men. I ll let you choose who the absent 2 were matey.

  47. Nick

    Dec 14, 2016, 12:37 #95620

    We all KNOW that football matches can turn on wrong decisions and we have benefited from this more than once this season last night we suffered as three crucial descions went against us ie the free kick that led to their corner which wasn't a corner and a very strong penalty shout turned down by a ref who while cannot be described as anti Arsenal has historically never been kind to us either ! The fact that we were profligate in front of goal and static in defence however are the more potent reason's for our loss and it's boringly similar to the beginning of implosions from past seasons ! How we react at the Ethical will be all important to this teams chances this year a good performance and a win and confidence will be restored a poor one and a consecutive defeat will be i feel a disaster that will lead to the usual slump ! It's NOW that a good manager earns his corn by MOTIVATING the team and not suffering ANY sulking from ANYONE by geeing them up to show what they can do and to prove last night was just a bad day at work George Graham could do that by giving the team a siege mentality that all are against us that we must stick together and show the bast#*ds !! Wenger is NOT that type unfortunately he is as likely to sulk along with the other sulkers as he did after the unjust ending of our unbeaten record run at the hands of a cheating Wayne Rooney ! We were FIVE points clear at the top then but the whole team and manager collectively sulked and we lost out on the title as has been the case ever since ! Mental strengths is the French man's watchword I have however seen little evidence of that virtue in the last 12 years !

  48. GoonerRon

    Dec 14, 2016, 12:33 #95619

    @ Ron - you should know by now I say it how I see it. Both teams had stronger periods but neither were dominant for a sustained time or had a series of chances or good saves made. I thought we pressed them well in the first half, they pressed us well in the second half. They won tackles, we won tackles (I haven't seen the stats on tackles won but I'd say there wasn't much in it). I don't remember too many situations (if any) where we shirked 50/50's. That's just my view.

  49. mbg

    Dec 14, 2016, 12:24 #95618

    We now know and see (as if we didn't already) what happens when a manager and team come along who know their tactics and how to play TOF and his little tippy tappy twinkle toed dwarfs (and TOF hadn't a clue how to combat it) and didn't roll over and allow themselves to be tickled, and there's plenty more of them to come. Go now wenger.

  50. Tony Evans

    Dec 14, 2016, 12:21 #95617

    Just when you allow yourself a miniscule bit of optimism you can always rely on Wenger's team to bring you right back to square one. You expect a tough game at Goodison and losing is not a disaster; it's the way we lost - the usual mixture of not taking chances, feeble defending (not stopping crosses / not dealing with them), no intensity to our game and certain indulged Wenger favourites showcasing their undoubted talents for doing F all!

  51. GoonerRon

    Dec 14, 2016, 12:20 #95616

    @ Bard - they played a lot better in the second half that's for sure. When I say finely balanced, it was 1-1 until 86 minutes and I don't remember either keeper being extended massively in the second half. Both teams had dangerous periods - us for the first 20 mins of 2nd half and them after that but neither side was consistently dominated.

  52. Simon

    Dec 14, 2016, 12:19 #95615

    Let's be honest, Arsenal could be nine points AHEAD of Chelsea on Christmas Day and Wenger still wouldn't get the job done.

  53. Daryn

    Dec 14, 2016, 12:07 #95614

    One nil up players think game over a few strong tackles from Everton fan get up for it our players can't cope with it kos played well and Sanchez worked hard as ever wenger s comments after they were very competitive Everton mabe he should write a letter to all clubs please don't tackle my players stand off and admire our passing

  54. zalala

    Dec 14, 2016, 11:46 #95613

    A league champions usually averaged only 4 losses for the whole season.and last night is our 2nd defeat and we are still will b going to whl,anfld,stmfrd brdge,stoke and ethad this weekend.also lets not forget man u at home.so from those games the chances we managed to lose only twice is absolutely none.still not include silly losses from game against mid/bottom league teams dat we did annually.so,here is reality check for AKBs out there.OUR SEASON IS OVER.WENGER OUT.WENGER OUT.WENGER OUT

  55. Paulo75

    Dec 14, 2016, 11:45 #95612

    With Everton being low on confidence going into the match this game should have been put to bed after we took the lead. What actually transpired i.e. a woeful inability to defend crosses and wasteful finishing is oh so predictable and massively frustrating. The again ineffectual performances of Theo and Chamberlain away from home are meaning we are playing these games in effect with 9 men so why do they continue to be selected?

  56. Ron

    Dec 14, 2016, 11:35 #95611

    Some really good posts and honest comments on here guys, but GR, please oh please. What do you know need to see to identify a game where one team wanted it badly and the other was indifferent? Evtn are a poor lot, but once again commitment and graft was enough to see off our feinthearts.

  57. Ron

    Dec 14, 2016, 11:25 #95610

    About right Kev. Wally efforts to close down to stop the cross for the first goal was lamemtable. Please AW, sell him in January. He is a disgrace and avoided all confrontations last night. Makes me sick as i said we shd start him last night and tell him to go for it. Poor as ASL were, Evtn were no great shakes either. AW was right on the 'corner' but the defending was atrocious which in fairness he also alluded too. Pressures on now at MC on Sunday. I think City will turn us over though, maybe 2-1 again? Wally nor OX shd start there. Both appalling last night.

  58. Snowbiggee

    Dec 14, 2016, 11:21 #95609

    For once we have the balance and depth in the squad to come back from setbacks. What hasn't changed is Wenger's inability to change games if they are not going to plan. It's not enough to put Giroud on and then not deliver crosses into him. Only two crosses went in to him and they were in injury time. Wenger has never picked teams or made subs on what's needed. He tends to be influenced by the seniority of players in the group. If we are to be successful he has to replace players not performing in a match with others in form. Clearly Theo and Ozil should have been subbed and Giroud and Lucas put on with Ox given instructions to cross to Giroud. This will never happen under Wenger cos he's reactive and not proactive. History tells us that this will cost us yet again.

  59. Mark

    Dec 14, 2016, 11:18 #95608

    When i hear pundits and Gooners say Ozil is world class my reply is name a big game AWAY from home he has dominated.Surely thats the least you would expect from a world class player.Once again he did a disappearing act.To think a month ago we were being told he was the heir apparent to Bergkamp's crown.What bull.This was a typical performance from a Wenger team when the pressure was on.They bottled it.The Chuckle brothers Ox and Wally were abysmal.By the time we walk out on the pitch at City we could be 9 points behind and its not even Xmas.Another what might have been season.Go Wenger just go

  60. GS

    Dec 14, 2016, 11:12 #95607

    If as a player, you look at your manager and he is motionless, what drive do you have to up your performance, Koeman last night was on his feet driving his players on, Wenger when not sitting on his hands is attacking the 4th official or blaming the ref, when he should be barking orders, looking at changing things and taking off players who are not performing, being in the comfort Zone never won any prizes, Players need to feel the fear, but while Wenger fiddles, Arsenal Burns.

  61. Redshirtswhitesleeves

    Dec 14, 2016, 11:06 #95606

    This is the kind of game which always trips wenger and his latter day sides up. An early lead, the complacency sets in and instead of going for the jugular we allow a struggling team back in the game because we are so damn easy to play against. It's a mentality thing and it comes direct from the manager himself. We got what we deserved and it has been coming for some time as we have ridden our luck on numerous occasions this season. It comes as a surprise to none of us who sussed wenger out years ago. There is also a growing trend of younger managers who have got our glorious leaders number...pochetino, koeman etc know exactly how to set up against us whilst wenger does nothing different. But then why would he? After all his aim isn't to be champions it is merely to finish no lower than 4th and he is a master at this. And we all know that the board are perfectly happy with picking up the champions league money and so the cycle continues year after year. My prediction for 2017 is Arsenal will finish 4th and Wenger will sign a new contract. Welcome to Arsenal Football Club 2006- present, an exercise in greed and purgatory

  62. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    Dec 14, 2016, 11:00 #95605

    Yep, being the season of goodwill and all that, expect us to return up north on Sunday bearing gifts. A home game vs Arsenal, just the thing to get a wobbling Citeh back on track.

  63. Exeter Gunner

    Dec 14, 2016, 10:35 #95604

    All the stuff about 'we have a stronger squad this season... we're more resilient this season...' it makes no difference. The mentality at the club remains poor. If things start to go against the team on the pitch, there is no one - on the bench or on the field - who can reset the team to respond accordingly. Like the editor says, the team have had a lot of luck this season to avoid defeat and last night the luck ran out. Wenger - and his acolytes, as we can see in certain comments here - will never recognise the flaws, instead make weak excuses about the ref etc, and this is why top 4 is the limit. There will always be too many games like this each season, where otherwise inferior opposition make it tougher than a Wenger team is prepared to face up to, to be champions.

  64. Bard

    Dec 14, 2016, 10:30 #95603

    Gooneron mate I dont know what game you were watching. We hardly got a look in for most of the second half. It didnt look very balanced to me. True we could have drawn it in the last minute but there looked only one winner for large parts of the game and it wasnt us.

  65. GS

    Dec 14, 2016, 10:30 #95602

    Very disappointed to lose, after being 1-0 up, and to let in 2 headed goals is shocking, but that is zonal marking for you. These are the sort of games we should be winning when leading. The problem is we have been here so many times and we all fear what may happen. I hope we can get a result at City. Why Wenger never makes changes at half time in order to out-fox the opposition I'll never know, Walcott/Ox / Ozil were poor last night. lets hope this is just a blip, as for only losing twice so far, it counts for nothing, it's turning 1pt into 3pts and not losing leads that wins you the title. ...........COYG

  66. King Jeremy

    Dec 14, 2016, 10:18 #95601

    Different year, slightly different team, same manager......same result. Nothing will change until the manager does. These are the games that you simply do not lose (and moreover should win) if you have title ambitions. As much as I love Ozil I think the time has come to drop him for these midweek-up-North type of games - a more direct and aggressive option is needed. As for the cretins on Instagram lambasting Iwobi - get a life! IT will be interesting to see how Pep sets up City to play - I can see them playing a fast counter attacking game, but can our manager? I think we know the answer. 9 points behind Chelsea (and therefore out of it) come Monday!

  67. GoonerRon

    Dec 14, 2016, 10:09 #95600

    The headline about us being outmuscled is just total bollocks. They won some tackles, we won some tackles. Yes, they got more physical in the second half but no way were we outmuscled. After we failed to go for the jugular at 1-0 (that is something we HAVE to address) it was a finely balanced game that could have gone either way. Yes, Lukaku was a good outlet for them but to these eyes he was very well marshalled by Kos and Gab for the most part. I'd prefer for us to take the initiative and ensure any errors by the refs aren't detrimental to us winning a game, but in tight matches like this they can be crucial and it was a clear pen at the end. Perspective: our 3rd defeat in 34 games, first away defeat in 9 months, our first goal conceded from a corner this season. Massive game on the weekend to focus on now.

  68. Kerryman gooner

    Dec 14, 2016, 10:08 #95599

    I have been following the Gunners since Radford, Kennedy McLintock et al. My favourites have been George, Roecastle, Adams, DB10 and Viera. But this Sanchez lad is really special. Never stops trying. To put him into a team with Giroud, OX and Walcott is a travesty. And then a manager so far past his best. WE have no chance of holding onto this boy Sanchez. WE need massive changes.Clearly leadership is a rare commodity.

  69. Bard

    Dec 14, 2016, 10:05 #95598

    Moreorless how I saw it Kev. In truth we have played worse this season and taken points. I have said a million times you cannot play Wally and Ozil in the same team as they are both defensive liabilities. Wally was at fault for the first by not attempting to close down Baines and Ozil left Williams a free run for the second. When Everton upped the tempo we couldnt live with it and with Wally and the Ox mia, we were effectively down to 9 men. Why didnt we sub Wally early and give Perez a run. Surely he couldnt be as invisible. Wally's stats for the game are awful. he was a complete passenger. I agree its not terminal regarding our title chances but as others have rightly said that was the sort of game where champions contenders win or at worst draw. Wengers rant at Clattenburg was embarrassing, had me thinking he's sponsoring Untold

  70. 71guns

    Dec 14, 2016, 9:47 #95597

    Blah blah blah... There's nothing to dissect here, we started well, they sat back we huffed and puffed with tricks and flicks, got a goal and once again the 'ruthlessness' that we now have er... wasn't there. The home fans finally woke up after a couple of Everton chances and then suddenly it was a cup tie and we once again didn't have the b*llocks for it. NOTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE WHILE WENGER IS STILL IN CHARGE! I know it's not his fault when Ozil misses one or two chances or Granit headbutts someone but tactically he's always too late, why can we see whats going on so much sooner? Why is Wally left on the pitch for an hour plus doing nothing before he's taken off? Last night was a low for me - that's exactly the sort of game you win when your a serious title contender... Meh - I've got my sulking head on today.

  71. chris dee

    Dec 14, 2016, 9:17 #95596

    In the last ten years there is one 'top' team that will always,but always, help a struggling team to get back to winning ways or allow a striker who hasn't scored for a while to find the net again.Yep it's Arsene's Southern Softies Arsenal,the team that keeps on giving. And why the panic about Ozil and Sanchez's contracts?If we do not win the Premiership or Champions League (yeah sure!) then what difference have they made from the teams of the previous ten years?

  72. Clarky

    Dec 14, 2016, 9:11 #95595

    I must admit my heart sinks when I see Ox and Walcott in the starting line up as you know we are starting at least one man short. Unfortunately, Iwobi seems to have been "Wengered" as well. Can't see us getting anything at a City and by then we will probably be out of contention. Playing a weakened side in the league cup is starting to look an even more ridiculous decision. Wenger out!

  73. I.P. from South Africa

    Dec 14, 2016, 9:07 #95594

    Wenger,s consistent blaming of all external factors for Arsenal's failures together with his refusal to examine himself and his own team is the reason why this manager will not win a EPL title again.One only has to look back over the past 10 plus years at who Wenger regards as top quality players to "strenghthen" Arsenal to see he has lost it. His "quality" players are mostly players with soft under-bellies who can only play fluently in open matches against teams which do not have steel within their ranks.

  74. Wear Your Colours

    Dec 14, 2016, 9:04 #95593

    It was a disappointing result. The game was very evenly poised and it was clear in the closing stages that the game could go either way. As it turned out they got the rub of the green with the decisions leading up to their corner and took their chance to score. Ozil blasted our best chance wide earlier in the half and we had a blatant penalty denied us in the closing stages (ironic when you look at those awarded against us recently). Now is the time to regroup and focus on getting at least a point from the trip to City on Sunday. COYG!

  75. zalala

    Dec 14, 2016, 9:02 #95592

    this is koeman's third win against arsene.and he is managing an out of form everton side against in form arsenal.maybe arsene always had a problem against a team managed by a 'tactician'.and arsene is blaming ref for the winner.it may should be a goal kick but an organized defending would never gave ashley williams a FREE HEADER. F**cking tired with the SAME OLD SAME OLD STUPID DEFENDING. GET THE F*CK OUT OF ARSENAL.12 F*CKING YEARS WITHOUT A TITLE.HOW F*CKING USELESS CAN YOU BE???.LE PROF MY A*S

  76. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    Dec 14, 2016, 8:51 #95591

    Yet again, just when you think the whole thing has turned the corner, they let us down again. Two free headers in the six yard box! Sunday morning defending. Plus ca change.

  77. Jamerson

    Dec 14, 2016, 8:51 #95590

    So according to Clattenburg, the penalty he gave Dembele in the NLD, or the free kick he gave against Kos that led to Everton second goal, were more fouls that this last minute challenge on Sanchez. And yet some people don’t believe the Premier League is rigged… There are none so blind as those who will not see

  78. Augustus Flair

    Dec 14, 2016, 8:46 #95589

    This was written last night immediately after the game but I am still spitting feathers so apologies for re-posting. Thank you, Arsenal, for reviving a poor Everton team's season when we all thought they were dead and buried. Thank you Ozil for missing a sitter in the second half and frigging about for 90 fruitless minutes; thank you Ox for 100% ineffectiveness and inefficiency; thank you Walcott for another performance of staggering ineptitude. But mostly, thank you, Arsene, for another wasted year, which is what it will now be.