More HFS than HFB? (That’s Handsome French Scorpion)

Online Ed: Giroud’s incredible goal brightens a dull New Year’s Day afternoon



More HFS than HFB? (That’s Handsome French Scorpion)


Well, a thoroughly miserable afternoon to be going anywhere. Cold, wet, windy. Not the sort of conditions you’d choose to be out in. A special word for the half a dozen brave souls that attempted to sell copies of the new issue of ‘The Gooner’ in conditions that made it an uphill task to say the least. All were pretty much soaked to the skin by the time they made their way in to watch the game, where it didn’t get any warmer, although at least they were under cover. There were a lot of no shows amongst the crowd, presumably a mix of not wanting to venture out from home on a horrible day when the game is on the box and maybe transport problems.

Arsenal dominated, although in truth, Palace were awful. They created a hint of danger about once in the first half, and for a short spell in the second when the home side failed to get the ball out of the danger zone properly on successive attempts, a sequence that began with Monreal giving away a sloppy corner. Other than that, it was all Arsenal. Given the amount of dominance, they might have had a hatful, but at this stage, it is simply winning that counts, although this was a far less stressful 90 minutes than that against West Brom on Boxing Day. This is the second of six fixtures where the team really need to take maximum points before visiting Chelsea, and so far, so good.

Some interesting changes. Ozil was absent, reportedly suffering illness, although it wouldn’t be the greatest of surprises if in reality he was having an agreed mid-winter break. He won’t be tweeting from a beach in Dubai if that is the reality, but one suspects he might have the hint of a tan by the time he presumably returns for the visit to Swansea in almost a fortnight. So Perez came in with Iwobi filling in at Ozil’s position, which must have made Aaron Ramsey ponder about his future prospects at the club. Elneny was chosen ahead of Coquelin, (another snub for Ramsey) presumably with the thought that defence was not going to be such a priority against a struggling Palace side.

Giroud missed what looked like a tap-in early on, failing to connect with a ball across the face of goal, but converted a far more difficult chance soon after. A bit of a fluke, but a fantastic goal nevertheless. The ball from Sanchez was behind him and he just tried to make some kind of connection with it, something he might try a hundred times and score once with. Yesterday was the day, and as a consequence a game of football broke out with Palace at least attempting to get men forward.

The atmosphere was pretty flat, a mix of the conditions, the large number of absentees, hangovers, a relatively unexciting contest, and Palace’s ultras being uncharacteristically quiet. I wonder if recent months have sucked the lifeblood out of their normally brilliant support?

We expected Palace to come out of the traps after the interval, but there was no such response. Sam Allardyce put a brave face on things, but he must realize after this game that he has plenty of work to do to address Palace’s current malaise. One imagines he will buy in January. Alex Iwobi headed in a second goal for Arsenal and things looked generally comfortable. Unusually, Nigeria have failed to qualify for the African Cup of Nations so Elneny will be the only player Arsene Wenger loses to the tournament.

So job done, and Chelsea’s lead over Arsenal remains at nine points, with the Gunners in third place. Manchester United and Spurs seem to be getting their act together and we wait to see what develops at Manchester City with the signing of their new Brazilian forward. Liverpool and Chelsea have both benefitted from the absence of European fixtures, so it looks like these teams will remain the top six until the season’s end. Supposedly there are no easy fixtures in the Premier League these days, but after watching this game, I am not so sure.

It looks pretty certain that Arsene Wenger will keep his powder dry in the January transfer window with several ‘like a new signing’ returns from the treatment room imminent. In 2017, his team need to get some big results on the road (as well as at home to the two Manchester clubs). These will determine whether or not the fading hopes of title race involvement are rekindled. First up, win every game until the visit to Stamford Bridge, hope Antonio Conte’s side falter and then we see what happens on February 4th. Experience tells us not to be hopeful with a run-in that also sees visits to Southampton, Liverpool, Spurs, and Stoke, but then, without hope, what do we have as fans?

Happy New Year everyone.

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  5. Bonzo

    Jan 03, 2017, 8:19 #96365

    Good win against a poor Palace- still waiting for Myles Palmjobs "Wengers signed a new contract" story to break. Classic journo trick to drive up hits. Seen him do this before so not unexpected. A classic example is the Daily Express who on their internet site ramp up a Euro / Bank crisis every week

  6. Bonzo

    Jan 03, 2017, 7:01 #96364

    Jameewobbybooba - whilst you've been sitting on that rock have you come up with an answer yet?

  7. mbg

    Jan 02, 2017, 22:48 #96362

    GoonerRon, yes it takes a lot of ingenuity and innovation to lift a leg as the ball goes past, and i doubt very much even wenger has the ability to coach that instinct out of a player, and i'd say if a player has that wonderful ability in the first place he has a good chance of been signed by TOF, and indeed if he has taught/coached it into him he's a better coach than I thought.

  8. Bonzo

    Jan 02, 2017, 22:31 #96361

    Lee AFC (squeak) what was that Foo Fighters song???????

  9. Lee afc

    Jan 02, 2017, 22:16 #96360

    What was that pink song Bonzo ???????

  10. Bonzo

    Jan 02, 2017, 22:04 #96359

    Jameewobbybooba - you didn't answer the question

  11. Bonzo

    Jan 02, 2017, 21:54 #96358

    Who am I BBA? who AM I? I know you are Jameewobbybooba.... I cannot lose for one day Wengo is gone but Arsenal will remain!

  12. Arsene is God

    Jan 02, 2017, 20:16 #96357

    That bloody Klopp and Pepe think they're brilliant with their hoofball. It's not like they've won anything is it! Just wait to Wenger plays them! Just wait! Oh **** we lost didn't we.... I'll be off then. Where's my mate Colesey?

  13. Bonzo

    Jan 02, 2017, 19:50 #96356

    Jamee - I'll indulge you, Earth latest reckoning is about 4.5billion years old. How did humans come about? Well I'd guess the first ape ancestor to man is as far back as 6 million and the first primates around 55milliion. I suspect you're going to tell me on a Tuesday 6500 years ago.

  14. GoonerRon

    Jan 02, 2017, 19:06 #96355

    @ mbg - oh yes, I forgot you can only appreciate a goal if it wins us something. What an idiotic comment. It's also good to see Wenger hasn't coached such ingenuity and innovative thinking from him isn't it.

  15. Jamee's Southwold Diary

    Jan 02, 2017, 18:50 #96354

    Cooee everybody I hope you're all well? We, that's me and Batholomew Bertrand Anthony or BBA for short have had a lovely time and I bought little BBA some nice doggie chews. He's such an adorable little Pug and fits nicely into my Prada Manbag. My wonderful, special friend Fabio and I are off to a lovely little hotel in Blackpool that caters for our needs. Ooh!, it's got a pretend dungeon and all the naughty waiters wear leather chaps and no underwear. Fabio is such a talented Guy ( I think you know what I mean! ) and he's so handsome. Bye bye for now...

  16. Mad Monk

    Jan 02, 2017, 18:32 #96353

    It\\'s Saturday night for me confused as to what day it is as been working through the night

  17. mbg

    Jan 02, 2017, 18:24 #96352

    Jude J, don't forget a good engine, whatever the fook that means.

  18. Mad Monk

    Jan 02, 2017, 18:17 #96351

    Sat here in my digs in Monaco watching the West Ham game on Sky Go and can't believe M Dean has again ruined my Saturday night ! Is he just plain useless or getting brown envelopes? Well said Nial Quinn it's about time someone slated him. Can't really comment on Arsenal game have yet to watch it as I was working ( it's up next)

  19. GS

    Jan 02, 2017, 18:17 #96350

    M Bag : free speech , democracy and reason have no place on Untold or N Korea , at least muppets like you & Jamerson ( same person) can post pointless rubbish on here and not be banned . Don't bother replying to this post, come back when you have something football related to say . I won't hold my breath .

  20. mbg

    Jan 02, 2017, 18:03 #96349

    CORNISH, spot on, a lot of getting moist over the carthorses goal, he/it was lucky end off he said so himself, he stuck his hoof up it could have went anywhere, he's always trying these fancy dan flicks and they very rarely come off if at all, it's just one that did in another wenger bore fest against second raters, nothing to get excited about it's won us nothing, he could (and no doubt will now) try the same thing over and over and it will never come off again, and all we'll see his big tongue hanging out in response. wenger out.

  21. GS

    Jan 02, 2017, 17:43 #96348

    MBAG- Jamerson: probably one and the same person . Open forum for Gooners who have something of value to say or add, I've not yet read any posts on here from the likes of Jamerson & pals that have a point or anything of interest, just endless drivel and religious nonsense , last time I looked this site is about Arsenal . Now jog onto Untold where your pointless views/posts will be more than welcomed.

  22. Bonzo

    Jan 02, 2017, 16:55 #96347

    MBAG / Jameebooba- a little ditty for you. "Wrinkly Arsene Wenger, "He wears a tatty hat" "They used to say it's magic" "But now they say it's Crap" "The corners let the rain in" "It's feeble and not very stout" "Now you can hear the chant" "Wenger, Wenger, out!"

  23. Know Man

    Jan 02, 2017, 16:41 #96346

    Iwobi contributed more in those 90 minutes than Ozil has done in the whole of November & December. He was on the ball, making things happen & this decisiveness & penetration gave us more of a threat. Just shows what can be achieved with a decent number 10. Ozil the pretender will be back soon, alas.

  24. Alsace

    Jan 02, 2017, 16:12 #96345

    Iwobi is a real playmaker. Tof managed to not substitute him immediately yesterday which is a step forward. Ramsey, like Walcott should leave with Wenger. A waste of space. A dull game by a team who are not champions, but with some extra defensive solidity. Lucas should be given a chance. Mustafi fit which is good. Alexis is extraordinary. One of the best players to have ever worn the shirt, and would be so on effort alone

  25. 1971 Gooner

    Jan 02, 2017, 16:03 #96344

    With regard to Ozil, for those who follow cricket and remember the 80s, it was said about David Gower that he was a great captain of a good team; the point being when the chips were down he was ineffective. I think this applies to Ozil too - he was absolutely brilliant against Chelsea which was our best performance this season by a mile but looks crap when we are struggling. BTW - I thought Perez put in a good shift as like Xhaka has that bit of an edge that many of our players lack. Happy new year.

  26. CT Gooner

    Jan 02, 2017, 15:55 #96343

    It was a comfortable win, but I'm getting really annoyed by folks suggesting we're anymore than a above average PL side. How many chances did we actually create yesterday?? Two spectacular finishes, but beyond that, what exactly. That was Flamini in the middle of the park remember. Our form has significantly dropped in my opinion, and I'm struggling to see how we compete against the chavs or scum. The focus should be on game on game improvement, but it'll be coast through lesser competition creating a false sense of hope, only to shatter it when we come up against a quality squad. Why am I being so negative, deja vu perhaps....

  27. Bonzo

    Jan 02, 2017, 15:42 #96342

    Can we have a special big shout for Jamee as he has just collected his first Grindr loyalty reward. Jamee and his special friend Fabio are looking forward to a lovely break in a "friendly" guesthouse in Blackpool. Jamee said OMG I've not had sooo much fun since my last Eurovision Party! Im going to have such a lovely time with Fabio he's such a cute guy and so talented! If you know what I mean.

  28. Bonzo

    Jan 02, 2017, 15:32 #96341

    Jamee - name the Elect, how many are there? What country has the most? Why do I Think the Elect is going to sound like the membership of the Frinton-on-Sea golf club?

  29. mbg

    Jan 02, 2017, 15:21 #96340

    Another routine win/tickle fest against another woeful side alright for Ken Dodd and his diddy men, I guess fat sam hasn't had time to impose himself yet.

  30. mbg

    Jan 02, 2017, 15:05 #96339

    If only he had the sting of a scorpion but I suppose it's enough of a sting for TOF and his followers, aren't they always dull even if/after we win ? simply because we know regardless of it/them nothings going to become of it, it's just going to be the same old same old out come as always scrape fourth, and it's on. wenger out now.

  31. HowardL

    Jan 02, 2017, 14:43 #96338

    Thought we looked much more of a team without Ozil. Despite the obvious ability that he has shown at times, I would not be sorry to see him leave if no agreement is forthcoming. Alexis, however, is a different matter…

  32. Jude J.

    Jan 02, 2017, 14:04 #96337

    Great article, Kevin. Iwobi's involvement, in my opinion, in Ozil's position -- a so-called snub of Ramsey -- was thoroughly justified. Santi's out, no Ozil, and Jack's out of the picture (and we've lost Elneny for the time being), yet Ramsey supporters only cite a brief rich vein several years ago and a decent run this past summer for Wales as evidence that we need to see more of him. What has he done for us lately to warrant being in the first team? I would submit, f**k all.

  33. GS

    Jan 02, 2017, 13:47 #96336

    Jamerson : your posts do you no credit. Why do you bother posting on here , surely the site for you is Untold , post your stuff on there and you will be treated like a god . Your posts add no value here , if only you and your like would post something of value you are more likely to be taken seriously . Now do us all a favour and try and post something interesting for 2017 , or clear off to untold, but as a troll suppose your life has little pleasure , so you use this site for your own entertainment. Untold are waiting - bye.

  34. Augustus Flair

    Jan 02, 2017, 13:46 #96335

    Yes, great goal to see but there was plenty of luck about it. I was more concerned with Sanchez's negative body language in the second half, though, as Arsenal players squandered possession cheaply and fluffed good chances (hands up, Ox) to score more against a truly awful side. Let's hope our mercurial Chilean (any jobs going on the Sun?) sees enough of a future to stay because without him we would not be much better than Palace.

  35. Bonzo

    Jan 02, 2017, 13:34 #96334

    Jameebooba - is Wengo an elected one? I'm trying to figure out this creepy man love you have with him

  36. GoonerRon

    Jan 02, 2017, 12:23 #96333

    @ Cornish Gooner - considering Giroud was ahead of the ball when he made contact, if he'd have shown more pace he would have been nowhere near connecting with it. Oh, and if he had zero pace he would still be stood on the spot where he cleverly laid it off to Xhaka. Routine win and against a team we should beat, decent fluency in our game and another clean sheet. Same again tomorrow please.

  37. jjetplane

    Jan 02, 2017, 12:20 #96332

    Carthorse mimics scorpion and the ostrich sniggers as only the ostrich can. Half empty food outlet for the new year and by March people will be wandering around the ground with pizza crusts in tow. What a club!

  38. Kenny

    Jan 02, 2017, 11:53 #96331

    Giroud is an average player who scored a great goal who you can bet will not be in the starting line up for our annual bumming at the Bridge in Feb.On the bigger picture it was a win against another rubbish prem team sound fimiliar?.Another year and we havent moved forward one bit.New Years wish please make 2017 Wengers last year

  39. CB

    Jan 02, 2017, 11:28 #96330

    Good win against a team that played like the cones on the training pitch

  40. jeff wright

    Jan 02, 2017, 11:15 #96329

    A great goal from Giro in a routine yawn inducing mis-match against Fat Sam's latest team in a long list of them that the fat moron has managed - this Pardew built one though must just about be the worst that Fatso has graced with his repulsive presence. For me though great goals have to have some end product - such as Charlies double winner against Liverpool ,Smiths European Cup Winner ,Parlour's one v Chelsea in the FA Cup final . Giro's individualistic effort beats Jacko's end of a numerous passing move one against Bournemouth .I know which one Wengo prefers though. Wengo will be hoping that the Chavs can beat the spuds on Wednesday night - at least that's what I can deduce from the recent comments that Wengo has been making and a Blues win over the spuds will not do Wengo's ambitions for another top 4 trophy any harm with the spuds suddenly looking dangerous - along with Mourinho's United to that ambition -if ambition is the appropriate word for it. Harry and Dell say they are up for the game - it's ' massive ' according to them and they say that they have been scoring for fun .So then I'm off to see what the odds are on a 0-0 ! However, Wengo should really be concerning himself with the Cherries you know what they say about counting chickens ...cluck..cluck..cluck...

  41. Dartford gooner

    Jan 02, 2017, 11:12 #96328

    I felt we moved the ball much quicker than usual . Much less sideways passing and more direct. It may have been a one off but i don't think we missed Ozil. If he wants more than we offer let him go. We looked more of a team than a collection of players trying to do their own thing.Maybe leaving Ozil out for a few games might stir his arse to try harder in the tough away games.

  42. CORNISH GOONER

    Jan 02, 2017, 11:12 #96327

    Hate to rain on an AKB parade but a dose of reality is required. Palace were really, really awful & take a closer look at the build up to the first "wonder" goal. L'oreal ran into the box like an ageing trotting (show) pony - which is what he is. Zero pace & should NEVER be a starter in any team with title winning aspirations. Yep, more of this Division B stuff & a new contract will surely be in place - the smirk is back. Tres depressing, oui?

  43. David

    Jan 02, 2017, 11:05 #96326

    Same old same old. Pressure off, Arsenal win. Doesn't matter who they play, when there's a chance to put the top team under pressure, Arsenal can't do it. Zippy will do nothing about it.

  44. Jameebooba

    Jan 02, 2017, 10:38 #96325

    We're a couple of classes above a couple of classes above , hoof it, hoof it, you're all going to hell. That's it , thank you very much

  45. Fozzy

    Jan 02, 2017, 10:34 #96324

    Shows what can happen to a side without having to play with the weight of luxury players in the team. "That" goal was a thing of beauty but it would never have happened if Ozil was playing. He would never have tracked back to win the ball in the first place. Perez did. It would never have happened if Ramsey was on the pitch. He would have slowed the move down by passing backwards. Xhaka shifted the ball very smartly. It would never have happened if Walnutt was playing. He would have run into a blind alley or booted the ball into the crowd. Instead, Iwobi did the business by moving the ball swiftly on to Sanchez, The Flamster dived and you know the rest. Moral of the tale is to maintain a team of grafters and success will come.

  46. Torbay Gooner

    Jan 02, 2017, 10:23 #96323

    Yes, Palace were poor, took me a while to realize Flamini was playing! Amazing goal by Giroud and he seems to have a penchant for acrobatic goals eg versus the same opponents and Bayern last season. However, of course it had a huge element of good fortune about it, but that does nothing to detract from the enjoyment of watching it numerous times over. Can we continue to pick up maximum points before the trip to Chelski?

  47. Arseneknewbest

    Jan 02, 2017, 10:13 #96322

    Seeing fat, corrupt sam barking out orders while chewing a piece of raw tripe made my stomach turn yesterday. That guy sure has some balls for even applying for another football job let alone taking one in the PL. Absolute contempt. Palace were p*ss and although we played well, it was a bit like unopposed competition at times. Wengo looked like he'd taken a break from working in Jamee's abattoir in that outfit. I thought Lucas played well (as did all of them to be fair), and the team had a little more edge and purpose than when Ozil plays. Flamini skilfully got his head out of the way of that Sanchez cross, but hey, a perfect goal for the exhibitionist monsieur giroud. Jamee son - you just can't resist talking utter bollox on here you twazzer.

  48. GS

    Jan 02, 2017, 10:01 #96321

    A comfortable win, with a great goal . I felt the team looked balanced with Lucas adding some pace , it was his interception that started the break for the giroud goal . Gabriel also had a good game too, and I agree , Alexis should have been subbed at 2-0 . All in all no complaints , we all know what's needed and until the chavs drop pts all we can do to win our games and see what happens. Let's put the Wenger inout debate to one side and get behind the team for the sage of unity, and hope this is Wengers last season.

  49. Wear Your Colours

    Jan 02, 2017, 9:37 #96320

    I thought the midfield trio of Xhaka, Elneny and Iwobi played really well. They kept the ball zipping across the surface with pace all game long and some of Xhaka's passing was exquisite. I also thought Gabriel had a very solid game at the back. We dominated the play and put another good three-points in the bank. A great way to start 2017. COYG!

  50. Joe S.

    Jan 02, 2017, 8:32 #96319

    Giroud's goal was one of the best, not only the finish but also the speed of the lead up play that lead to it. However I would still not want him in the team if Arsenal had a real striker. There were enouth passes across goal and half chances for a Van Persie or Cavani or Vardy, or even Beneteke to swoop on and grab a hat trick. Giroud was way off the pace and switched off, imagining the headlines to come once he had that incredible goal. Again it was Sanchez who carried the team forward, although I was also impressed by Iwobi's potential and also how much the Ox has to offer if only he were properly handled.

  51. Snowbiggee

    Jan 02, 2017, 8:07 #96318

    Wenger's bread and butter game. Win enough of these and you get a new contract. As you imply Kev, getting seven out of nine points away to Chelsea /Liverpool and the tiny Totts, 4/6 at home v the Manc's teams or a two legged win over Bayern is what's going to make us think he's improving. Still predicting 76 points total absolute maximum.

  52. Bard

    Jan 02, 2017, 7:51 #96317

    A routine win against another terrible prem side. We looked to have a degree of urgency in the first part of the second half which I havent seen for a while. I dont understand why he didnt substitute Sanchez after the second goal, it seemed a pointless risk to keep him on. Also we have a worrying tendency to get stretched leaving our defence vulnerable. Poor though Palace were they had plenty of chances to make it a difficult day.