Happy Birthday Pep

Guardiola’s experience in England should be no surprise



Happy Birthday Pep


Pep Guardiola is coming in for quite a bit of criticism at the moment. We know how upset our fans were to lose 2-1 away to Everton, having led 1-0. Imagine how City fans feel after losing the same fixture 4-0. A little bit of the magic has gone and the emperor’s new clothes are exposed. Pep is a winner and he has won the league in six of the last seven seasons that he has competed in (three at Barcelona, three at Bayern Munich), but it is beginning to look unlikely that he will win with City this season. The assumption that he would do so was perhaps always a little naive. At Barcelona he inherited a team with Xavi, Iniesta, Messi, Busquets and others. At Munich he took over the defending European champions. The ageing Man City team which finished fourth last season was never going to be quite the same proposition.

I really enjoy the tiki-taka high pressing style of football that Pep has developed, whilst appreciating that others find it ponderous. Whatever you think of his football, I think he must be given credit for what he achieved at Barcelona (Munich was OK, but less impressive). He did start from a good place (Xavi and Messi is one hell of a hand to be dealt), but he also did wonderful things with that team. His Barcelona is the best club side I have seen, and their style was both bold and imaginative. If you are to develop a new way of playing football, you must be 100% committed to it, and he is. The flip-side of this commitment, is complete tactical inflexibility, so it seems a nonsense to me, for critics to complain that he is tactically inflexible. When he went to Bayern, he changed a Champions League winning team to play in his Barcelona tradition, so it’s hardly surprising that he is basically doing the same at City. If you want tactical flexibility, don't hire Pep!

What cannot really be denied is that Pep has changed football the world over. Of course, like all inventions, Pep’s unique brand of football is not quite as innovative as it first appears. It arises quite naturally from the Cruyff/La Masia/total-football/tiki-taka tradition of Barcelona. Guardiola, who had studied at the La Masia academy, was the star of the Barcelona ‘dream-team’ managed by Johan Cruyff from 1988 to 1996 (and worshipped by a small local boy called Cesc Fabregas). Guardiola said himself that: ‘He [Cruyff] painted the chapel and Barcelona coaches since have merely restored or improved it’.

I think Wenger was very much influenced by Pep when Barcelona were at their best, and we saw a version of tiki-taka at Arsenal that sometimes led to us being mocked as 'Barca-light'. In recent years, I think Wenger has been less convinced by the tiki-taka short fast passing model, but he is also a principled/tactically inflexible coach (not quite as much as Pep, but close), and we know that this can frustrate fans.

Interestingly, the high press element of Guardiola’s innovation has been more widely adopted in England than the tiki-taka passing element. I have particularly enjoyed the 'ambush high pressing’ which Arsenal have employed this season. This works much better with Sanchez at centre forward than Giroud, so we have been missing it a bit in the last few games. A consequence of the widespread use of the high press is to demand more technical quality from centre halves, and I think Koscielny and Mustafi are well equipped for this new style of football (as is Holding). Gabriel is less technically secure and this was exposed in our recent defeats against Everton and City.

There is no doubt that Man City is Guardiola’s toughest test yet. He has proved many things, but he has not proved his ability to rebuild an ageing team. That is what he must now do, and it is not that surprising that he is struggling. The game has also changed, partly as a result of his influence and ideas; opposition teams are less shocked by the high press when it comes, and less liable to crumble in the face of it. They are also more comfortable finding ways to score when they have little possession - Everton and Leicester have both brutally exposed City on this front this season.

In the next couple of years, we will see whether Pep can meet this challenge or not, presuming of course that the City community has the patience to let him try. He has to prove, not only that he can adapt City to his method of football, but that his method can survive the proverbial wet, cold, dark evening in North West England, which is where Wenger’s version of tiki-taka tended to fall down. There is a sense in which he is trying to succeed where Wenger has failed. Perhaps he is the better manager and can make it work, perhaps he is deeply more committed to the creed than Wenger was? Maybe it just can’t be done in England?

If he doesn’t succeed, I suspect that City might be his last job in football. Pep is 46 today (18th January) and his mentor, the late Johan Cruyff retired from football management in 1996 at the age of 49. He has said that he won’t go on forever, and if the City experiment fails, I wonder if he will have the stomach or mental fight to take on the next mountain. However successful he is, it’s difficult to imagine a scenario in which anything other than that great Barca team is his enduring legacy. He must know this, and at some point, that may sap his resolve. If he could run out of will to manage his beloved Barcelona, where he lived and worked as man and boy and learnt everything he knows, how much more easily could he walk away from the rain of Manchester?

Pep has a palpable intensity that oozes out from him. Like Wenger, he takes defeat badly, but he bears his pain even worse than Wenger, and I’m not sure he’s enjoying the opportunity to get more practice at handling it. If he does fail, and City is his last job, I will be a little bit sad at the demise of one of football’s great modern men (but not too sad, especially if his failure allows Arsenal to win). Whatever happens next Pep, I think you have enriched football and you have certainly left a lasting influence on it. I would like to wish you a very happy birthday.

Twitter@TimC1972

Tim is the author of “It’s Happened Again” available on Amazon in both print and Kindle versions. Read a sample chapter at www.itshappenedagain.com


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  1. Tony Evans

    Jan 20, 2017, 15:49 #97256

    Hi Ron - agree, menacing was the word for WHL. Went to our 1-0 FA Cup 3rd round defeat there in the early 80s and remember missiles being hurled as we left the ground - and that's when they had won the game! Best game at WHL for me was the 5-0 thumping we handed out, with Chippy's sublime swerving shot. I was virtually right behind the goal and watched it all the way- happy days indeed.

  2. Finsbury Joe

    Jan 20, 2017, 14:21 #97250

    Pep, Cruyff, Wenger, and others are all massively influenced by the great Rinus Michels, with of course differing degrees of success. A very difficult brand to play in todays Premier League, one of them knew that all along and never managed on these shores, another came here, started well but, in awe if his Barca muse, his success stopped when he started adhering too much to this philosophy. The third one, he will try, and he will fail. It is the organised limited, not the artists who succeed in this league, and always has been

  3. Ron

    Jan 20, 2017, 10:34 #97242

    Hi lads. The menace that going to WHL had always made it the best away day of the yr didnt it. Perverse i know, but the atmosphere always made it more White Hot Lane. The menace is still there now, when we beat them there which is quite rare these days isnt it. Emerging from the away end and turning right into that 80 yards of road up to the junction of the High Road with a few half arsed coppers dividing us from them is never comfortable. Its everybody for them selves then up to Seven Sisters. Coppers cdt give a toss what happens between WHL and the Tube. Last few times i went i drove and avoided the tube. Not been since we lost 2-1 in 2009 or 10? though. The day of the famed Adebayor song - 'it should have been you' etc etc that so upset the media and Harry Redknapp.

  4. mbg

    Jan 19, 2017, 23:32 #97238

    Gaz, spot on, I wouldn't trust the lying c***s, we all know what would happen if TOF won (sorry fluked it) the league or another FA Cup, they'd change they're minds quicker than they could blink and offer him another two years extension for his one so called great achievement in thirteen years, four years in all, and we all know who'd be feeling sorry for him the most, and screaming and creaming themselves the loudest for it.

  5. mbg

    Jan 19, 2017, 23:04 #97237

    ArseneKnewBest, or snow white and the seven dwarfs. wenger and Ozil out.

  6. Gaz

    Jan 19, 2017, 18:36 #97234

    Was in the upper tier of the shelf for the league game in 87 and remember thinking if we score I might be in line for a beating as I'll just have to celebrate. Thankfully when TA6 scored and I went mental so were hundreds of other Gooners near me! Loved going to WHL in those days. Mind you I remember being real frightened trying to get in there for that league cup replay as there were so many Gooners trying to get in that a real serious problem with overcrowding ensued and I remember young kids being passed over the top of us to escape being hurt. Yeah, that was real frightening at the time.

  7. Bonzo

    Jan 19, 2017, 18:19 #97232

    1987 had to stand on the Shelf twice during the 3 games as on the return at WHL they allowed us onto the Upper Shelf corner. I remember people punching and kicking each other through the divide. During the replay turned up ticketless and bought a Spurs Shelf ticket. Couldnt celebrate. What I do remember is catching people's eyes you could tell who were Arsenal it was gloriously painful. Somehow got pushed into a crew of a Spud mob leaving the ground. A nasty bunch of lads looking to find the nearest Arsenal supporter. A very brave Constable literally stopped them in their tracks by asking "where you going lads" an Arsenal supporter sauntered past oblivious to the fact he may have got the kicking of his life. I then managed to dodge them and join the celebrations. Quite an evening all this as a 15 year old lad who'd also managed to receive two black eyes after receiving a kicking 5 days previously. Those were the days!

  8. Tony Evans

    Jan 19, 2017, 17:49 #97229

    Ron / Gaz - great memories lads. I was at WHL 87, but not Anfield 89 but well remember neighbours coming round to congratulate me as if I had won the league myself! Straight to the pub then for a wee drink or three!

  9. Gaz

    Jan 19, 2017, 16:01 #97223

    Ron: Never made Anfield 89 although the (drunken!) scenes in my local pub when We scored THAT goal will live long in the memory! The scenes up in Islington on the Sunday after were real special too and I managed to get my hands on the trophy when Smudger Smith walked past me on his way up to the town hall!!! Was at WHL in 87 though and I've never been in an away or home end that was as crammed as that end was. When dear old Rocky scored I'll never forget the wild scenes that ensued! I'll never ever forget those night and I'm getting goosebumps just writing it down!!!

  10. Ron

    Jan 19, 2017, 13:48 #97212

    Gaz - Can you imagine Wenger and these feinthearts playing a game of the season, away at Anfield needing a win to clinch it? Liverpool needing a draw. same scenario. Oh my word!! I d be putting my cash on it being a 4-0 thrashing and this rabble folding before they even reached the pitch. I truly would. Always have to laugh at how SKY try to dress up that 2012 Man C last game win as if its never happened before. Sickening really. Youre right though. Todays fans will never 'feel' those 87 and 89 moments. Hold yr memories jealously mate. I was at Anfield in 89 and had been many times in the yrs before and seen us blew away almost every time. A good number of Gunners fans never had the same 'we re done for' mentality as the press did. it was more just a feeling that we had to get a decent result there one day and the rest was blind hope! The fervour was total mayhem in that stadium. It ll never happen again for sure. Not like that.

  11. Gaz

    Jan 19, 2017, 13:31 #97208

    Tony/Ron: Can't argue with any of that apart from I really miss having Arsenal at the centre of my universe. It's certainly freed up a lot of spare time to do other things but I do miss it. One thing I'll be forever grateful for though was supporting the Club through the 70's and 80's. I actually feel a lot of sympathy for today's 'customers' (*cough*) as they'll never ever experience the kind of scenes and celebrations witnessed at Anfield in 89 and WHL in 87. Sadly even if those exact games were repeated in the future it won't be anything like what it was like back then.

  12. Tony Evans

    Jan 19, 2017, 12:26 #97202

    Ron and Gaz - certainly football is unrecognisable from when I first stepped out on to the Highbury terraces, and you are right, Gaz - what is there to love about Arsenal these days! We just need to accept that it probably will never be like the old days and just be thankful for the great times we had up to about season 2008. Interesting, Ron, that you wish your 'Arsenal only blinkers' had been taken off sooner. You may have something there when I think back to my days of constantly thinking about everything Arsenal. I still enjoy the odd game now and again and it is good not to be saddled with that awful desperation I used to feel whenever I watched Arsenal.

  13. Ron

    Jan 19, 2017, 11:12 #97196

    Same as Tony and Gaz - if its any consolation, the feelings are the same among fans all throughout the PL. The greatest detachment of fans though occurs among the fans of the so called 'big' Clubs. The so called 'lesser' Clubs fans still have affinity with their teams and enjoy the camaraderie but its diluted even among them to what it used to be. Football at the PL level is just so fake, soulless and sterile. I still enjoy seeing the odd game and on TV too, but the meaning of the games has long since gone for me. Its no more than light entertainment now. I have to be honest though and say that im glad to be released from caring about it and rather wish i had reached this stage many years back.

  14. Exeter Gunner

    Jan 19, 2017, 10:54 #97195

    So Mertesacker - who hasn't played all season and is no longer 1st choice anyway - gets a one year extension whilst still injured, with more extensions for underachieving / non-performing players to come. Remember the concept of players having to prove fitness and performance to earn contracts? Just an illustration of how actual football is secondary at AFC. Wenger just wants to surround himself with grateful yes men at the club to shore up his position and trot out the crap we've heard about 'building men' etc recently. Sporting success way down the priority list at the former Arsenal Football Club.

  15. Gaz

    Jan 19, 2017, 10:44 #97194

    Hi Tony: discussed this with you before but yeah I fell exactly the same. Results-good or bad-have no effect on me now which actually leaves me feeling real sad as they used to impact my whole life. I'm kind of worried that the effects of this are so damaging that even when he finally goes I'll never feel that same way again. Perhaps I just need to acccept that the Club I fell in love with just doesn't exist any more. New Stadium, new badge, phoney owners and a manager long past his sell buy date. Throw in a fan base that's unrecognisable from what I used to remember and what else is there left? Been thinking about this a lot lately.

  16. Tony Evans

    Jan 19, 2017, 10:14 #97193

    Gaz - that all sounds very plausible. I am sure Wenger will get some sort of contract extension and am resigned to it one way or another. Wenger is perfect for the money orientated, non football, board we have, and they won't let him go unless they really have to (and he won't go unless pushed, that's for sure). I'm pleased in one way that I don't give a stuff anymore, but also saddened that Arsenal's results now mean so little to me.

  17. Gaz

    Jan 19, 2017, 9:58 #97192

    I reckon Wenger will sign a new two year deal and they (AW and the Club) will dress it up by jointly announcing it's his last contract and he'll leave in 2019. They'll hope that whatever happens fans will be happy to see an end in sight and everyone will get behind him. It'll give the Club time to find a replacement and in two years he'll leave with full honours and to a huge fanfare. Of course secretly they'll both be hoping that over that period the thousands of fans who can't/won't let go make such a noise that the only thing to do is announce they've decided to reverse that decision and discussions on yet another contract extension are taking place.

  18. Arseneknewbest

    Jan 19, 2017, 8:21 #97191

    Pep can't be that much of a tw*t after all. Guess how he's helping his team to prepare for the spuds game - Yes, he took them all to the cinema to see "La La Land". That would certainly work for me if I was Yaya Toure. But if they win, expect intellectual wengo to follow suit by taking our squad to see a re-release of "Carry on up the Khyber". Pep must be at least on £10 million a year if our specialist in failure gets 8 - now we can see why.

  19. Roy

    Jan 19, 2017, 5:50 #97190

    This is when hype kind of overtakes perspective, or the line between the two becomes very blurred. For all the stick City have taken recently, and all the plaudits the Spuds have been getting, if City win on Saturday they will be level on points ! And I'd still have Pep over Wengo going forward any day !

  20. Cyril

    Jan 19, 2017, 0:58 #97189

    Bless him Wenger, 20 years of EU top 4. No more Obama and his Germanic love in. No more, of the Englishman WilKinson in the early days, (school teacher) telling us how great Wenger is. No more of the high moral ground which saw Leeds drop 2 divisions. No more of New Labour in 97. No more of Graham's back five. Keown's help with the defence in 2005 run to the final. bye!!!

  21. Ooh to be a.....

    Jan 18, 2017, 23:22 #97188

    Boycott O.G. - go on then **** off! Make sure the door doesn't hit your arse on the way out

  22. mbg

    Jan 18, 2017, 23:07 #97187

    jj, compare trophy halls between their lord and master and Pep ? now that wouldn't look good for their messiah especially as he's nearly 20 years older, and even if he carried/carries on until he's 90 he still wont have matched him. But of course as we know as far as the wenger worshipers are concerned success doesn't matter. wenger out.

  23. mbg

    Jan 18, 2017, 22:47 #97185

    jj, yes the wengerites will cling on to any wee comfy blanket they can grab, the least we thing to give them hope, completely in denial about their messiah, and of course the least wee piece of news no matter how trivial it is, to try and divert attention from their lord and masters failings. wenger and Ozil out.

  24. Boycott og

    Jan 18, 2017, 21:31 #97184

    The love in for anything Arsenal is embarrassing. Now it's Pep who has lost 5 out of 21 in the premier league. Dire, rubbish, pathetic website that will cease shortly.

  25. Leek the Squeak

    Jan 18, 2017, 20:29 #97182

    I'm very worried that Wengie might die in the next twenty five to forty years. I would like to raise funds for a Cryonic rebirth. Please can someone donate. Please, please as Wengie must never leave!

  26. Leek the Squeak

    Jan 18, 2017, 20:07 #97181

    Wengie is the bestest, he must stay forever even if he's propped up in a box. Guardiola, Mourinho, Conte, Klopp are all rubbish! Wengie must stay!

  27. CT Gooner

    Jan 18, 2017, 19:59 #97180

    There is no doubt that Pep has rebuilding to do, but does anyone doubt he'll do it?? no, if city aren't there or there abouts in May, you can guarantee folks will be held to account and changes will be made. Yes, this is likely to be in the order of lots of millions, but if you make it, you can spend it. Now Arsenal on the other hand, will wenger fix the glaring issues?

  28. CORNISH GOONER

    Jan 18, 2017, 19:49 #97179

    Exeter, couldn't agree more. This article reads like an obituary for Pep, who will surely come good if he has the patience to put up with our dreadful media, instead of one for an old guy that all the football world knows is past it. I was particularly amused by the line that a badly worn 66 year old has been hugely influenced by a 45(?) year old. What the f**** are we paying £8million+ pa for? Time for me to apply for the old fool's job again. Might even get an interview this time?

  29. Ron

    Jan 18, 2017, 16:49 #97175

    The City job is likely to make Pep G a better Coach. Struggles and players not good enough to take them to where they want to go will do him good. Hes a bright bloke and will learn from what mistakes hes making and learn how to arrest a Club thats underachieving. We shoud send Wenger on loan there and see if he can grasp the concept of learning from error? As for him retiring quickly. Maybe so, hes had the highest of pressure jobs for years. On the contrary, Arsene could coach till hes 96 at AFC, with his slippers and cardie on.

  30. Kenny

    Jan 18, 2017, 16:34 #97173

    Pep one bad season Wenger THIRTEEN.Yes you can see the similarities between Pep and Wenger.Mourinho rightly calls Wenger a specialist in failure he would never call Pep that

  31. Exeter Gunner

    Jan 18, 2017, 16:25 #97172

    Ostensibly an article about Pep, but it's underlying aim is to excuse/justify Wenger - 'if fans have patience', 'principled', 'high press', 'hates losing' etc, etc. It's a disastrous season for Guardiola as it's already clear he's only playing for top 4. Wenger? Same thing, but he's getting a new contract.

  32. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    Jan 18, 2017, 15:56 #97169

    Mind you it was funny reading most people on here in May. Pep was coming, Citeh were going to sweep all before them; West Ham were going to make waves in their shiny new taxpayer paid stadium; Xhaka was going to be our missing link blah blah blah. One sure thing in all these uncertain times; AW's Arsenal. It's like a comfort blanket, but one that's going threadbare.

  33. Platitude Problem

    Jan 18, 2017, 13:02 #97163

    Pep is a fraud. Jose is a fraud. Wenger is a fraud. Lee Mack's once considered funny comedy Not Going Out is a fraud. Liberal Democracy is a fraud. My hair was once dark, it's now gone grey - fraud. You're either good forever, **** forever or a fraud. I know what I'm talking about, I'm a random bloke on the internet. Experts? They're a fraud too.

  34. Bard

    Jan 18, 2017, 12:34 #97161

    Tim some interesting points. My take is that Pep has found the Prem a bit of a shock. He cant believe how poor it is from a defensive and tactical point of view. Although as Jeff has said it didnt take much tactical tweaking to steamroller us. Sure the players run about a lot but most of it is keystone cops stuff.

  35. jjetplane

    Jan 18, 2017, 12:26 #97160

    Typical Untold polite sniping from Timmy without hte full on hatred of his boss Atwood. City are having a bummer and yet are still in the top six. If Wengo was having a bummer, Arsenal would be out of the top ten. AKBs pick up any crumbs of comfort whether it is slagging any of the top six but to even mention Wengo in the same bracket as Peppy boy is absurd and part of the problem why Arsenal have stagnated to the point that the only people writing about them now are two bob sociology teachers in scout uniforms. Fascinating watching Pep staring into the PL abyss against Everton who under Koeman are just maybe turning that Kendallesque corner. Iwobi would certainly have a better career under Koeman and perhaps Bellerin has already been lost. If City end the season in front of Wengo's wobblers I will be laughing all the way. Bollox to Wenger/Up the Arsenal! ps about those wing backs down the ****ing lane! about Sutton and Lincoln! Football! Anybody want to compare trophy hauls between Wengo and Pepsee as players and coaches?

  36. Redshirtswhitesleeves

    Jan 18, 2017, 12:12 #97159

    Mark- I've read about us being linked with Allegri too. Can't pretend to know much about him but what I have read would suggest he is in a similar mould to Simeone, i.e. Takes no s*** and doesn't put up with prima donnas and pansies. Here's hoping......

  37. Robinson peter fcb

    Jan 18, 2017, 12:09 #97158

    HAPPY BIRTHDAY PEP

  38. mbg

    Jan 18, 2017, 11:59 #97157

    jw, the old short and selective memories again. wenger and 0zil out.

  39. mbg

    Jan 18, 2017, 11:49 #97156

    It's just a pity our old fraud doesn't/didn't receive the same when embarrassed, when his new clothes where/have been exposed over and over again over the last eleven years, instead of being let away with it time and time again, So well done City fans for being ambitious. Pep is a winner alright, and a bright and young up and coming manager and still learning too and more importantly he will, and he'll get it right at City too, unlike our old fraud who was never a winner and never learned and still hasn't and never will now, who's still bumbling about trying feebly to get it right after all these years and failing miserably. But one thing is for sure City, owners and fans alike, will not give or allow him eleven years or more to get it right, like I said they have ambition, and anyway i'd doubt very much Pep would want to hang about that length of time like a bad smell having failed again and again as I doubt very much just coming fourth and qualifying would be good enough for him, he'd have more self respect than that.

  40. John F

    Jan 18, 2017, 11:47 #97155

    This links in on the earlier article in the week concerning our midfield,to be successful in the prem you have to have an enforcer type player in the side.City have Toure who is past his best and a dodgy goalkeeper.Pep brought in Mascherano to do that job at Barca and after assessing his squad at City this season I suspect in the summer he will address the problem,it is too early to write him off.As Jeff pointed out in the battle of the lightweights we lost.The game to watch this weekend is City v a physical Spuds side.

  41. Ron

    Jan 18, 2017, 11:40 #97154

    Cant really see why the media and football community are beguiled by Guardiola. The salient fact is that he once had Messi Xavi and Iniesta as his players. He couldnt really fail could he?. They are one in a generation type players. Those at Munich were pretty special too, though slightly lower marque. Maybe hes morphing into Wenger?

  42. jeff wright

    Jan 18, 2017, 11:40 #97153

    Everyones sussed him out except for Wenger - why is that then>? Be careful now because Wengo still has to play Pep at least one more time this term.bb

  43. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    Jan 18, 2017, 11:36 #97152

    Pep's been sussed, a one trick pony.

  44. jeff wright

    Jan 18, 2017, 10:59 #97151

    AKB, I had to smile at the how would Arsenal supporters feel if Everton had beaten us 4-0 bit considering the beatings we have endured under Wengo's time .3-0 down at one time recently to mighty Bournemouth and we needed them to go down to playing the last 20 minutes with 10 men for us to scrape a lucky 3-3 draw . You couldn't make it up.

  45. Arseneknewbest

    Jan 18, 2017, 10:47 #97150

    Pep is a particularly sh*t manager given the untold wealth (cash and players such as Aguero./de Bruyne/Silva etc. etc. ) at his disposal. Any mug - except thicko misanthropic Jamee son - could get that fantastically resourced club to perform at their current level. Closer to home, Wengo is in much the same bracket of course.

  46. Mark

    Jan 18, 2017, 10:47 #97149

    I hope the italian reports about Allegri coming to Arsenal are correct. this guys has balls

  47. jeff wright

    Jan 18, 2017, 10:36 #97147

    Er, so what was the score when Wengo took on struggling Pep recently then>?