A Win’s a Win

Online Ed: Arsenal take all the points away in Belgrade



A Win’s a Win


Ed’s note – I am abroad currently with no guarantees of catching any Arsenal matches due to uncertainty of access to either a TV broadcast or internet signal. So until the League Cup game v Norwich, I’ll be covered by some Gooner contributors for the match editorials. My thanks to David Oudot for writing up yesterday’s game in Belgrade. By the way, I won’t be able to fulfil any orders via the Gooner store until Wednesday 25th October – so by all means feel free to order, but please bear with me.

Another Giroud overhead kick winner has all but got us through to the knockout stages of the Europa League, but to call this Thursday night 90 minutes of standard Wengerball over the last seven years is an understatement. Possession the ultimate aim of the game, nobody shooting at goal unless they feel they really have to, all eleven players in second gear all the way through, and dull, dull, dull. We may have won the game and look set to have further Thursday night football post-Xmas, but with third place Champions League teams joining at that point our chances of continental silverware may be slim.

The team selection was interesting, the back five in particular. Seeing Mathieu Debuchy getting his first call in nearly a year was a refreshing boost, and a promising Lazarus debut may help us out in getting some cover in place for the very out-of-form Bellerin. But with Wenger being himself it was only natural to ‘Monreal’ him and play an international full back at centre half. Even more interesting was the pick of Elneny at the heart of the defence which serves to prove that Mertesacker has been reinstated in the first eleven for the time being at least and Elneny is nothing more than a utility man (who Wenger tried to flog in the summer as soon as we received a bid from Leicester). Also, cup ‘keeper Ospina was missing and Cech played instead - the choice of Matt Macey on the bench does suggest that we really do only have two at the moment. If only we could have had Gianluigi Buffon’s successor as an option.

The game itself did see Arsenal look to get a goal ahead and Wilshere in particular looked very, very good. In the first ten minutes he created two great chances - the first a killer through ball to Walcott who didn’t shoot when he obviously should have done, and the second playing Giroud in. For the second, Walcott was in a far better position to pass to, goal-wise, but if you had a choice of passing to those two players I think we’d all choose Olivier (albeit on a ‘best of a bad bunch’ basis). When Walcott had an open goal two minutes later he managed to perform a mini miracle in finding the goalkeeper’s foot rather than any part of the goal which was wide-open.

As per standard Wengerball the team relaxed after our initial efforts and could well have gone in two goals behind at half-time with some further terrible lazy defending. Red Star hit the post from a corner despite the striker being surrounded by Arsenal markers but being the only person to jump for the ball. Shortly after we nearly had a repeat of Cleverley’s goal from Saturday in that the Serbian side surged forward, overtaking the midfielders and wing-backs who casually watched them venture into the box, and we only relied on our three defenders to cope with it all - in the end a good save from Cech and a last minute defensive block from Debuchy saved us but again raised questions as to who actually coaches defending on our coaching team, if indeed anyone actually does. Bould? Primorac? Banfield? Lehmann? I really don’t know and as we see more and more of this every week I’m starting to care less and less.

The second half started similarly to the first in that we came out wanting a win, and Wilshere again seemed to orchestrate it all. At one point he danced into the penalty area on his own and it looked delicious, but then each of our lot proceeded to play pass the parcel rather than taking a shot in classic “after you, Claude” style before Walcott’s ‘shot’ goes horizontally across goal.

Aside from Elneny casually passing the ball back to Cech and it being intercepted by a Belgrade forward who was denied by another good save from Petr, the rest of the second half was more classic Wengerball. We must have had 75% possession in the second half as the opposition were happy for us to have the ball. And as long as they had 10 of their own behind it they knew we wouldn’t be able to dance through and didn’t. We had to rely on Giroud’s brilliantly improvised overhead kick in the last five minutes to get a win out of this.

With us five points clear and three games to go, we’re all but there into the next round of the Europa League and receiving the trophy of being able to finish fifth or sixth in the Premier League this season but making it back into the Champions League. Sadly, I can’t take that as something to celebrate as the days of winning the Fairs Cup have been and gone. This competition has become nothing more than an inconvenient hindrance that serves only to rob us of 3pm kick-offs on a Saturday afternoon, and see our reserves getting a run out. I would like to have thought that getting a result in Eastern Europe after the disaster at Vicarage Road would serve to get us going again on Sunday against the struggling Everton. But with only a maximum of three of tonight’s team featuring against them, the internal politics surrounding our two best players, and Wenger only having ever beaten Ronald Koeman twice in his career, I am waiting with baited breath.

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  1. mbg

    Oct 21, 2017, 3:13 #104568

    Gaz, your dead right, as Ron has already alluded to if we were to go on some kind of run in this fooking boring long drawn out comp as it's our level now (and that's debatable) until the CL drop outs come along anyway, TOF is that deluded he'll think we're good enough to compete and win the CL PL(it's all been happening over the last thirteen seasons remember) and his AKB wengerite sheep will be agreeing lapping it all up with hard on's like they have for the last thirteen seasons too, with their favourite saying, we're good to go. wenger out now.

  2. Gaz

    Oct 20, 2017, 21:50 #104567

    Petergooner: You new to this forum then?

  3. GoonerRon

    Oct 20, 2017, 20:56 #104566

    Win, clean sheet and an awesome goal. Move on.

  4. TonyEvans

    Oct 20, 2017, 18:52 #104565

    Cheers Ron, early start for us tomorrow morning - hopefully will be ok M6 wise, and the forecast is looking better for next week, so fingers crossed.

  5. mbg

    Oct 20, 2017, 18:30 #104564

    As expected it's gave the usual a hard on, just a few more to come, excuse the pun. wenger out now.

  6. mbg

    Oct 20, 2017, 18:19 #104562

    Were we playing last night ? oh yes Thursday nights C5, what the AKB's used to laugh at the spuds for, and we must have won because TOF has regurgitated speereett again, and yes scraped through yet again in the dying minutes with the carthorse now a clairvoyant. wenger out now.

  7. Yes its Ron

    Oct 20, 2017, 17:35 #104561

    Hi Tony - lucky devil re the lakes. Good luck with J 16-19 M6 though. If we dont hear from you again, we'll know youve abandoned yr car and are living in a cave incommunicado somewhere nr Knutsford!!

  8. Petergooner

    Oct 20, 2017, 16:00 #104560

    Gaz what game were you commenting on Post No. 110381 as follows:- "The rumours of Arsenals demise in Europe have been greatly exaggerated. Cracking win, cracking performance, cracking goal". Did you not see the first half? Also I agree with you on what you said in the following:-"Bayern, Real, Barca and the likes will be waking up this morning mightily glad we're not in the CL alongside them". Yes they will be disappointed because if we were there they would easily beat us at the moment and therefore go further in the Champions League.

  9. Gaz

    Oct 20, 2017, 15:37 #104559

    My Son can't believe how much I've changed in the last five years. I tell him I cant believe it either! Enjoy the lake district fella.

  10. TonyEvans

    Oct 20, 2017, 14:57 #104558

    Gaz - amazing isn't it what Wenger and the 'regime' have done to the likes of us - I would never have thought it possible! Nigh on 50 years of support and now I can barely be bothered to find out the score, and sometimes forget entirely that we are even playing! Glad the golf went well - I'm off to a very wet and windy Lake District for the week, and will not give Arsenal a second thought.

  11. Gaz

    Oct 20, 2017, 13:22 #104557

    Tony E: I knew we were playing but only because of twitter! Certainly had no idea about the early KO though and like you that just never used to happen as I geared my whole day around the game! Couldn't have cared less what the score was mind although any Arsenal win I find frustrating as I see it as Wenger getting another chance to prolong this agony. Sad times that just never look like ending. On the plus side I played a fine round of golf yesterday!!! :-)

  12. Moscowgooner

    Oct 20, 2017, 13:11 #104556

    The man from UNCLE - the quality of opposition is indeed poor at this stage - but wait until the Champions League drop outs join early next year. We have a chance of winning which is probably slightly higher than the chance of finishing in the top four, but a lot of variables in terms of the draw we get in the later stages.

  13. TonyEvans

    Oct 20, 2017, 12:30 #104555

    Completely forgot we were playing! My old Arsenal self would never have, not in a million years.

  14. equalizer

    Oct 20, 2017, 11:44 #104554

    @The Man From UNCLE. No, I don't struggle with the meaning of the word "sarcasm actually, and it wasn't very obvious from your post. So theres no need to be a prick

  15. Gaz

    Oct 20, 2017, 10:35 #104553

    The rumours of Arsenals demise in Europe have been greatly exaggerated. Cracking win, cracking performance, cracking goal. Bayern, Real, Barca and the likes will be waking up this morning mightily glad we're not in the CL alongside them.

  16. Petergooner

    Oct 20, 2017, 10:06 #104552

    Yes I agree, we can win this tournament if Arsene keeps the youngsters and a few top players in (i.e Jack captain, Giroud) because this team plays for each other, thinks about going forward and the youngsters want to play to win, not as some (i.e Ozil) walk about uninterested, don't look at forward passing that breaks through defences (like Jacks run and passes for the goal).Let Ozil go to Man U and stay on the bench. Get money now for him. Jack is much better and as I have often said "make him Captain" he is the only one who is Arsenal 100% threw and threw.

  17. Yes its Ron

    Oct 20, 2017, 9:48 #104550

    Its a good Euro tournament that even Arsenal could win, BUT, will they play a proper team when they need to and will it be another case of Wengo thinking the competition is beneath him? I think the answer is in the affirmative as per usual. Wengo thinks he runs a potential CL challenging Club, even now! The EL is the clubs true level now and that level befits a Club who are content with 5th/6th place in the table. The delusion and spin will continue though for quite a while yet under this regime im sure.

  18. The Man From UNCLE

    Oct 20, 2017, 9:08 #104549

    You obviously struggle with the meaning of the word "sarcasm" my friend. Though I do really believe with a bit of self-belief (they're not gonna get it from Le Fraud) this side can go a long way in this competition given the quality of opposition they'll be up against.

  19. equalizer

    Oct 20, 2017, 8:52 #104548

    @The Man From UNCLE. Do you really think Wenger can lead a team to victory in a European competition? The man who sent Seaman, Dixon, Adams, Keown, Sylvinho, Ray Parlour, Petit, Vieira, Overmars, Henry and Bergkamp out to lose against Galatasary. Who incidently played the entire 30 minutes of extra time with 10 men.

  20. The Man From UNCLE

    Oct 20, 2017, 7:57 #104547

    A magnificent away win. We can win that sucker this season a win's a win, a trophy's a trophy.