Arsenal Turn Up At Palace

Online Ed: Vast improvement on previous visit to Selhurst Park sees Gunners take three points



Arsenal Turn Up At Palace


Back in April, Arsenal left Selhurst Park with their tails between their legs and the boos of their supporters ringing in their ears, after a heartless performance saw them dismissed 3-0 by a team that were, at the time, trying to ensure they escaped the relegation dogfight. Sam Allardyce was their manager back then. Roy Hodgson has replaced the latter’s successor, Frank de Boer, and after initially posting some bad results, they have lately been on a good run.

However, Hodgson did not set his team up as well as Fat Sam did to counter Arsenal’s strengths, and the consequence was that, with time and space to work in, Arsene Wenger’s team fashioned three goals on a chilly late December evening. Defensively, they remain highly suspect, but by conceding less than they converted, they are three points better off than they were yesterday afternoon.

It was ironic that the two standout performers were two of the names that look set to depart the club, either in January (Sanchez) or the summer (Wilshere). The club will make noises about fresh contract talks, but the Chilean is 100% leaving and there have to be questions about the relationship between Wilshere and his manager. My prediction is that if Wenger remains in charge the number 10 will depart, although I’ll withdraw that if once Aaron Ramsey is fit, Wilshere remains in the starting eleven until the end of the campaign. On current form, he should.

I read (from memory) somewhere on Twitter that when Wilshere plays, Alexis does not feel the temptation to drop deep to get the ball. This is because Jack combines creativity and thrust. It was such ability that led to a free kick midway through the first half not far from the Palace box. Although initially it looked wasted, subsequently Lacazette created a chance from wide and shot at the Palace keeper. He could only parry it onto the foot of Mustafi who neatly tucked it away first time from a very tight angle.

Kolasinac, Mustafi and Calum Chambers had come in as starters, replacing Maitland-Niles, the injured Monreal and Iwobi from the starting line-up against Liverpool, as Wenger reverted to a back three. In truth, none of them covered themselves in glory. Early in the second half, Mustafi allowed Zaha way too much space to get a low cross in that was converted by an unmarked Andros Townsend. 1-1.

Then, after doing not very much at all, Alexis Sanchez came to the party. He combined well with Lacazette before firing a snap shot just inside the post to restore Arsenal’s lead. About three minutes later, Wilshere played a dream ball over the defence for the Chilean wantaway to control it with his chest before slotting it inside the same post he had placed the ball earlier. 3-1 and easy street.

Arsenal being Arsenal, they gave Palace a chink of light late on when ex-Hammer Stephen Tompkin scored a header from a corner, which would have been prevented if Wenger ordered a couple of his defenders to mark the posts. It reminded of many a goal conceded by Arsenal at corners. Zonal marking allows the attacking player to get more of a jump than whoever is covering the space. But it was too little too late. The Gunners weathered four minutes of injury time and the points were secured.

Next up, West Brom away, a reminder of another horrific performance last season. Tony Pulis was their manager then, although he has since been given the boot, Alan Pardew is his replacement. Hodgson, Pulis, Pardew – all these guys have managed both Palace and West Brom. And more often than not, been beaten by Arsenal. Let’s see what happens on New Year’s Day…

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  1. mbg

    Jan 01, 2018, 22:20 #105692

    marymark, I can just imagine toady, sorearse, in the caravan with Fathers ted, Dougal, Jack, along with graham Norton Irish dancing with the caravan rocking.

  2. mbg

    Dec 31, 2017, 16:03 #105664

    markymark, Exeter, it always happens doesn't it, it's been the case and happening for nigh on seven years/seasons now, when the AKB wengerites have nothing left to defend their lord and master with anymore (not even a decent stat)they resort to name calling, threats, violence, they always come out and show their true colours in the end, before pissing off, Gutless or what. wenger out tonight.

  3. Arseneknewbest

    Dec 31, 2017, 14:22 #105663

    Hmmmmmm - cuisses de crapaud. Magnifique! Gooner Ed - I join Exeter and Marky in calling for a cull of the tooaw/leekie specimen. The anti-Irish racism (or any other kind) is something that no self-respecting public forum should tolerate. It's OK to ban someone who utters what amounts to hate speech. One can only wonder what his other "isms" and prejudices extend to. It's no over-exaggeration to say that players from the island of Ireland dug us out of a pretty deep hole in the mid 1970s and in no small way contributed to a pretty healthy end to the decade. There's possibly an article in there for the new year. It's also tiresome to have to respond to Leekitoo - there's no coherence to his arguments; no willingness to debate; nothing thought-provoking. He is an empty shell. I suspect - although he won't admit it - that Badarse (if he returns...) would also be relieved to see the back of his comrade-in-arms because in reality he finds him an embarrassing ally. New year, new line up - sans Monsieur le Crapaud! All the best for 2018 everyone!

  4. Exeter Ex

    Dec 31, 2017, 13:33 #105662

    'Fickle' is not the word for maintaining an anti-Wenger position for years. 'Gutless' is the word for changing your name from Leeky to T0OAW (or Badarse to Brian) and hoping no one will notice. The Toad should take this time out to learn the meaning of words and how to string them into coherent sentences if he wants a proper debate, as he claims. Of course, we won't see this, from anyone, as it's not actually possible any longer to make a sane, rational case as to why Wenger is the best man to take Arsenal forward. If there was, we'd see it on here. Toad, Badarse and all the rest end up running away because ultimately they have no case to make beyond their simple reverence for Wenger and so just end up in slanging matches, not due to some 'clique' on here stopping them, as they like to claim. Graham Perry is the only one that actually attempts it, but his are passive aggressive articles lacking substance and sound reasoning.

  5. markymark

    Dec 31, 2017, 9:53 #105661

    Gooner Ed. Might this be a good opportunity to remove Tooaw’s access? He quite patently is here to disrupt, originally pretended to be a new poster using a slightly different persona before sliding into lazy racist anti Irish speak. He of course was previously posting as Leek. He now suggests he is removing himself so perfect time to go I’d say. As a general point it is probably harder to keep a differing viewpoint about Wenger as we appear to be in who will be the next monarch territory . The argument as shifted from should it happen at all, to when it should happen. I think most on here would be interested in other view points to my mind though the alternative viewpoint from a number of previous contributors comes tinged with aggression and racism . This is odd as much as much I have issues with Wenger I think he is extremely far removed from that. It’s odd that his poster fan boys seem to revel in it. Perhaps Simon Rose could contribute a sensible article to offer a slightly different viewpoint .

  6. markymark

    Dec 31, 2017, 9:28 #105660

    Toad am I reading this right, are you off? What is it about you Wenger nutjobs retiring! Another one off to the Caravan in Southwold Heights with stunning views of Sizewell B. Bye bye Toad , Toaw , Squeak , BBA or whoever you are. Bye bye. Ps. Don’t you think you’re being a bit fickle demanding your right to be heard, then slinking off.

  7. mbg

    Dec 31, 2017, 0:55 #105658

    Swatted away like a fly with the minimum of effort, I wonder has the mountain man got any sudo cream left. wenger out.

  8. TOOAW

    Dec 30, 2017, 21:55 #105657

    As stated before. The great one isn't taking the piss out of me but one whole lot of pisstake out of the negatives, wobbies, wors, fools, shall I shant i's, narks of this world. Keep it coming fellas. Lots of huff and puff and the threat of the protest came to zero. I'm retiring from this anti Arsenal site and watch from a distance the debate?? Or lack of should that be. Fanzine of the year 2017..... comic of the year 2018. Arsene Wenger will decide when he wishes to call it a day and not the 100 or so who turned up on the odd occasion to demonstrate. Laughably, the 3 who turned up for the West Ham game last season must be in a psychiatric home by now and the dog in a kennel. Gutless, fickle, so called gooners. The site is all yours.

  9. markymark

    Dec 30, 2017, 19:31 #105655

    Poor Toad as MBG says it’s not right laughing but then again....

  10. Exeter Ex

    Dec 30, 2017, 19:15 #105654

    "Good to see that the fools on this site lack a sense of humour." You mean your support for Wenger is a joke?

  11. A Cornish Gooner

    Dec 30, 2017, 19:13 #105653

    TOOAW.'the fools on this site'. Think you'll find there's just the one now.

  12. TOOAW

    Dec 30, 2017, 18:42 #105651

    Good to see that the fools on this site lack a sense of humour. Must have had one hell of a Christmas. New years Eve is going to be something else in the household of the negative bunch. Oh well, more to go round. Boring boring arsewits.

  13. mbg

    Dec 30, 2017, 18:33 #105650

    markymark, yes, it's the mating season so maybe he'll produce a couple of tadpoles to keep him company, or maybe his messiah will buy him a couple that's usually the case anyway, and trying so hard to keep the mountain mans ridiculous awards going with his own, it's not right laughing. wenger out.

  14. Exeter Ex

    Dec 30, 2017, 17:06 #105647

    I reckon the Toad thinks Badarse's Red & White awards are a real thing.

  15. mbg

    Dec 30, 2017, 16:25 #105646

    Arseneknewbest, and it would be all Fiction no doubt.

  16. markymark

    Dec 30, 2017, 12:25 #105643

    Toad - all on your lonesome . There, there, back to how it was eh.

  17. TOOAW

    Dec 30, 2017, 11:36 #105642

    Well that's the three Stooges out to 100/1 for the Red and White Award for there dire contributions.

  18. markymark

    Dec 30, 2017, 9:00 #105639

    Arseneknewbest - an interesting point you raise. It begs a question is Jamee actually dead? One shouldn’t speak Ill of the dead but in his case I’d happilly make an exception. A previous reference to Arsenal’s point gathering being compared to a truck backing to and fro as its stuck in the mud. That did make me giggle. Happy new year to everybody and to Toad remember to bring plenty of cardboard tin foil etc as the park bench will be extremely cold as you drink your White Lightening. Sadly I think Brian won’t be joining you as his wife had to intervene . Here’s hoping 2018 brings us what we want including the end of Wenger.

  19. Arseneknewbest

    Dec 30, 2017, 8:15 #105637

    Marky Perhaps I can help. Leekietoo's definition of winning comes from his caravan bound competitions with his late departed chum Jamee son. The first to fill a steel drum with their own ejaculate, which was then ratified by it's a knockout's Arthur Ellist with his rusty old dipstick, was the winner and was therefore excused turnip picking duty for the day. It's all in badarse's new semi-autobiographical tome called 'friend and family'. Out yesterday it's already on sale on amazon for 2pm.

  20. markymark

    Dec 30, 2017, 7:56 #105636

    Toad - I’m actually interested in your definition of a winner. Does this mean that Wenger’s a winner because he’s able to win away to Palace ? No titles in 13 years, blew our best opportunity against Leicester, only team in world financial top 8 to not win a title in the last decade. Unable to win a European trophy. The list of failure is growing season by season. I’m really struggling to see how he is a winner. Not sure why my post was 20 hours to late, your posts are a decade late.

  21. mbg

    Dec 30, 2017, 1:11 #105635

    Did you see Henry post match in the studio giving his two pence worth on the game ? honestly he's getting more and more inaudible every game with his crap, two arms outstretched forcing his opinion asking the question who, (very quickly changing it to who's available) out there would make this team better, if ever there was a question crying out for an answer this was it, but nobody had the fooking balls to answer him/it with three words, A new manager. wenger out

  22. Exeter Ex

    Dec 29, 2017, 23:38 #105633

    How anyone can still get excited by individuals results given the wider context is beyond me. As someone else put it, wins or losses under Wenger are akin to a truck stuck in mud moving a few inches forwards or backwards.

  23. TOOAW

    Dec 29, 2017, 23:20 #105632

    mbg (polite again with the person in question not acknowledging my name) Your posts are very strange if not deranged. I see no love, support, loyalty to the football club named Arsenal. It's hatred and negativity. Forgive me but you are no longer in the running for the Red and White Award and the year is yet to end. Check out post 111403 and if you feel this is ok to correspond on OG, then let the flood gates open.

  24. GoonerRon

    Dec 29, 2017, 22:33 #105631

    Other teams will come unstuck there so a very welcome 3 points. Wilshere very good again. The non-story about the celebration is ridiculous - let’s watch every goal from every other club and count how many outfield players join in. Now let’s do WBA and the Chavs.

  25. mbg

    Dec 29, 2017, 20:44 #105629

    Toady, wrong again, it's never to late, today, yesterday, last week, Month, Year, etc, it's always good to keep reminding wengerites like you of these things, because you and your ilk hate that, being reminded of your messiah's embarrassments, humiliations and failures, you all would just love them never mentioned all forgotten, wouldn't you(from one game to the next) and air brushed out of history, but that's never going to happen even when he's long gone we'll still be reminding you, the perry's and AKB wengerites of them. wenger out.

  26. TOOAW

    Dec 29, 2017, 20:13 #105628

    Nark. Your observation appears to be 20 hours late. Keep up fella. That ain't gonna win you the Red and White Award next year is it.

  27. markymark

    Dec 29, 2017, 19:49 #105627

    Guardian just run a story saying definitely split dressing room with Sánchez being unpopular . The way it’s written suggests inside information.

  28. CORNISH GOONER

    Dec 29, 2017, 19:10 #105626

    Oh dear, oh dear - a win against relegation fodder & out come the Terrible Two again spouting incomprehensible rubbish. The only sensible words being a reference to "good OLD Arsenal" - we would all drink to that, so would the horrible twosome try to help us get it back & remind Arthur that the "A" in AFC does not refer to him.

  29. mbg

    Dec 29, 2017, 17:49 #105625

    The fiddler was at it again last night fiddling away, and how the media highlighted it,(where was Toady when his messiah needed him) what a fooking laughing stock and embarrassment this old clown has become. wenger out now.

  30. mbg

    Dec 29, 2017, 16:27 #105624

    Yes, even with Hogson bowing and kneeling at TOF, we just scraped through again and managed to grab a win from the jaws of a draw/defeat. We want wenger out.

  31. MAF

    Dec 29, 2017, 16:25 #105623

    i thought some of our defending was Laurel + Hardy. better teams cut us open easily. we are giving away far too many goals to ever win anything. when Alexis scored it was plain for all to see he is not so popular in the dressing room now. he's given special treatment on days off to chile and the hes got the club on the backfoot and doesnt want to be there anyway. only old man zipper wenger would put up with such tosh. at least Levy + Potch got 50m for wantaway Carl Walker last summer i.e. took action. from what i have seen so far this season honestly, we are abt the 6th best team in the league these days and thats it.

  32. Paulward

    Dec 29, 2017, 15:46 #105622

    Roy too much of a gentleman to ruffle the feathers of the preening entity that he still refers to as “ The Arsenal”. His record of one win in 12 v us suggests an inferiority complex or simply an aversion to getting in our faces. Despite all this the fact is we looked like losing last night till Sanchez took a match winning hand. Best enjoy him and the enigmatic German whilst we can, there are even grimmer times around the corner.

  33. mbg

    Dec 29, 2017, 14:29 #105620

    Nothing surprising, another win against a manager and team who sat back and admired and allowed the nice boys strut their stuff and a past it manager to look good, we knew the out come (if we didn't already) when that other failure hodgson layed on a reception for his counterpart when he arrived, I wonder did he bow as he came through the door. wenger out.

  34. Ando

    Dec 29, 2017, 14:19 #105619

    House!

  35. Cyril

    Dec 29, 2017, 13:00 #105618

    Alsace- so true. It won’t matter what formations he puts out as he has admitted he wants only one defender in his ideal world. When you have a team who want to [1-2] it out of the box when pressed and then pass it to death from the back when playing 3, you will have problems immediately. Any team with nous just needs to press us and we can have problems. This is not a formation problem, it’s a Wengerball problem. I’ve said it a thousand times, we need to buy a top holding player. If his tippy tappy footy hasn’t worked with four at the back, how can it work with 3. He says he prefers 4. It’s not because the formation is faulty, it’s because he won’t change his football philosophy ever, even when the evidence that he is wholly wrong and has been for the past 12 years, stares him in the face. It’s clearer than ever that we will never improve under Wenger again. Any number of Managers would sort out the back 3 system. However, I’m sure he will find a way to subtly blame someone or something else for his failures.

  36. markymark

    Dec 29, 2017, 12:57 #105617

    Toad - this winning remark you made about Wengo ??? Like titles last 13 years? Only club in world top 8 not to win a title in last decade. Yeah he’s a winner! Jesus Wept. Badarse you finally seem to have regained your memory eh? More fake news? More twisted facts? Or just you realising you’ve been caught and as always a major retreat .Its nice not to have to lie all the time isn’t it Brian.

  37. Alsace

    Dec 29, 2017, 12:21 #105615

    Merry Christmas and a happy new year everyone. If the Liverpool game provided 5 minutes of much needed fun (including the sudden silencing of the scousers) it also reinforced the weaknesses which haunt Arsenal. I will focus however on one. Wenger has no idea how to balance attack and defence. It doesn't matter how many defenders you bring on towards the end if they can't actually defend as a unit or as individuals. Wenger despite working more than 20000 days in football is a very poor coach.

  38. TOOAW

    Dec 29, 2017, 12:18 #105614

    Good afternoon Badarse. I'd like to express my deep gratitude for your generous award. I am extremely proud to collect this award and it sits nicely with the team collecting 3 points last night. Clearly all of the hard work, passion and support of Arsenal FC has paid dividends. I am honoured that my work on OG has been recognised. This accomplishment is not something that I have achieved alone and there are many others who deserve to share this award. Lastly, I would like to thank the great man himself, Sir Arsene Wenger. A born winner who has given AFC everything and more. Ladies, Gentleman and Nark, Thank you.

  39. Exeter Ex

    Dec 29, 2017, 11:15 #105613

    Another battle lost, another retreat... though not before conjuring up a convenient little narrative that he hopes accounts for all the contrary statements of the last day or so. And by awarding TOOAW one of two 'Red & White' awards for 'unswerving loyalty to AFC' - an individual who just days ago stated about Wenger "Arsenal is yours and yours alone" - Badarse has left us in no doubt exactly where his first loyalty lies. See you in a couple of days/weeks/months to repeat the cycle again.

  40. The Man From UNCLE

    Dec 29, 2017, 11:04 #105612

    The perfect scenario around 6.15pm next Sunday; 3 pts for us to keep up with the Bin Dippers and Spurz; and zero points for Mr "Made In England" Pardew on his mission to get yet another team relegated.

  41. Badarse

    Dec 29, 2017, 10:43 #105611

    The Awards have been cancelled this year in the light of ruffling too many feathers. To be honest, (here he goes Nark), I haven't the heart for it, just the liver and a pair of knees, and that just isn't enough). I will offer the last already on the shelf though. The 'Grey sock and Sandal Award' has been retired in the absence of jeff wright, as has 'The Pizza Hut Award' in the retiring of jj, though his winkle pizza will go down in myth and legend for future generations. 'The Mercer/McLintock/Adams/Vieira Award', known informally as the Red and White Award, the most prestigious of trophies goes to TOOAW, for his diligence and stand alone opposition and unswerving loyalty to AFC. Well done buddy. Then finally the red and white ribbon of awards, 'Poster of the Year' goes to GoonerRon for his constancy and responses in the face of overwhelming odds, by still maintaining his dignity and respect for others. Have the best of years gentlemen, good old Arsenal.

  42. Badarse

    Dec 29, 2017, 10:28 #105610

    Good morning my little souffles. Here is another for mbg, I am pretty hot at numbers too, three, four, see what I mean? Anyway ask yourself if your number is up...my precious. Yes I shall be returning to my place on the hill as you so rightly predicted, it is much more serene. To put the warped record straight as you should never leave them besides the radiator. Yes my grandson was a superb runner doing a 5k parkrun in 18 mins 5 secs when 15, plus a very good two-footed footballer, like his dad and myself, two-footed that is. Yes my wonderful wife sets up the computer for me and puts things right as I am a dummy with these things and do not even possess a mobile phone. Though no friends or family read the OG in the past I have spoken to anyone regarding some exchanges, I think that is still allowed in your imagined draconian world, isn't it? So many facts for you to digest Nark, but your playmates will help you out in analysing and deconstructing.

  43. Paulo75

    Dec 29, 2017, 9:20 #105608

    A welcome 3 points to keep in touch for CL places but must be followed up by wins over WBA and Chelsea. With January imminent hopefully we can cut our (significant) losses with Super Theo and ship him back to Southampton. A fraction of the £75m they received for Van Dyck will suffice.