The Madness of King Arsène

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The Madness of King Arsène


“When you have just the trousers on it’s easy to take them trousers off as well. When you’re naked completely you have to find a shirt and try to put it on again and that you’re dressed normally again.”

It was Arsene’s Eric Cantona seagulls moment. But this was not a player making an analogy about being persecuted by the press, rather a manager talking about his team’s confidence in a way that suggested, some time after he had lost his dressing room, he is losing his marbles.

A fourth defeat in a row, a fifth defeat in the last six matches, the eighth defeat of the calendar year and a tenth Premier League defeat of the current campaign (that’s an average of more than one every three games). Arsenal now sit 33 points behind the league leaders and even Arsene Wenger has admitted a return to the top four is very unlikely, nine games remaining and a gap of 13 points to fourth placed Tottenham. The run-in this season is in theory an easy one, but this is no normal season.

Not one single member of the board of directors made the trip to The Amex Stadium to represent the club. Josh Kroenke is supposedly in London to run the rule over his father’s interest, and Ivan Gazidis has missed more matches than usual this season, both home and away. Ken Friar normally makes such trips, but is now 83 years old. Club Secretary David Mills did attend on behalf of the board. Aside from that, the club faces I recognised in the director’s box were Pat Rice and a trio of Wenger cronies – Primorac, Peyton and Lehmann. I looked at the dugout when Arsenal were 2-0 down and I could just see a line of long faces who were probably wondering about their job prospects in the immediate future.

The game? Brighton showed greater organisation, self-belief, commitment and desire. Defensively, they did enough against a largely uninspired Gunners’ attack. Calum Chambers was asked to play right back against a very pacey left-winger in the form of Izquierdo. Hector Bellerin was presumably dropped for expressing an interest in playing elsewhere, in a game in which he would surely have done a better job than Chambers, but maybe Brighton weren’t even scouted ahead of the fixture. Jack Wilshere returned to the side in the absence of Aaron Ramsey, rested ahead of the trip to Milan. Wilshere was one of the few players to demonstrate a genuine desire to compete in the Gunners’ line-up, which has become a familiar story. It seems unlikely he will be at the club beyond the summer, even though he is exactly what’s needed at the moment in terms of attitude.

Defensively, Arsenal were poor for both goals. Zonal marking at the corner that saw the first gave the Brighton player on the back post the opportunity to win the ball, Cech caught in no-man’s land as he failed to beat him to it. For the second, Koscielny gave the ball away cheaply, Mustafi was beaten in the air and Glenn Murray’s header wriggled under Cech. It wasn’t pretty viewing. The home fans sung their approval of Arsene Wenger and the travelling support did the opposite.

Arsenal rallied, scoring before half-time thanks to Xhaka and Aubameyang combining, and Koscielny hit the post with a header soon after. Second half, it was largely a tale of Arsenal dominating possession and Brighton soaking it up. There were a couple of occasions when Arsenal got wide near the byline, which at least provided a way into the Seagulls’ box, but for the most part it was a lot of sideways stuff trying to find the eye of the needle. Chances to shoot (and get a rebound) were spurned in preference of keeping possession. There were a couple of decent efforts from Ozil and Aubameyang, but for the most part, we are talking impotence.

So the home side held out and celebrated wildly at the end. For them, it was a big scalp. And for their commitment, they deserved the three points. Arsene Wenger claimed player fatigue for the poor start, stating the Thursday – Sunday – Thursday – Sunday schedule. But few of his players played in all four matches – specifically because he was able to field a weakened side against Ostersunds in the second leg. And anyway, isn’t playing twice a week what a club of Arsenal’s stature should aspire to at this stage of the season? If they don’t have the squad to cope with the task of playing twice a week, who’s fault is that, exactly?

I don’t think there can be too many who believe Arsenal can get back into the Champions League via the top four. So the real question (and let’s assume that Carlo Ancelotti will be in charge next season) is whether there is a better chance of winning the Europa League under the Italian (who I believe is ready to start) or the current manager. Arsene’s record in two-legged ties in Europe over recent seasons is not the stuff to inspire confidence. For one, defensively, his team is not set up to win a two-legged tie. They've lost the know-how to do that. The League Cup semi-final against Chelsea was against familiar opposition, and the Ostersunds tie could easily have ended in tears.

What the club require is the new manager bounce, although Carlo Ancelotti will be able to have a positive effect for far longer than an initial period because of both his experience and also the work that is going on at the club towards the future. We can expect a lot of ins and outs this summer for starters. By the end of the summer of 2020 (after three summer transfer windows) the squad will be largely unrecognisable from today’s and the club will be ready to have a tilt a genuine tilt at the title for the first time since 2008. The two seasons before will be required to reverse the damage done to the club over the last decade, which has created the current pitiful situation.

So realistically, once everyone accepts that Arsene Wenger is toast, the question is whether or not to wait till the end of May or bite the bullet now. His exit strategy, whether it’s before the end of the season or not, will happen like this. Arsene can never officially be sacked. He is celebrated on pretty much ever wall inside the new stadium. So, the board, or Kroenke, will tell him his time is up. He will be paid off for the remaining time of his contract (which would happen if he were given his cards), but he will be allowed to make the announcement that he has decided to step down for the good of the club. His pride will not want the alternative. It will be a statement issued through the club, with no public appearance. Arsene will probably be abroad when the statement is released, just to avoid the press. He’s too proud to actually explain himself to the media, to admit his failure, in person.

Imagine this. The decision is made this morning. The statement is issued this evening and Ancelotti is announced to the press first thing Tuesday morning. The Italian takes training and has the opportunity to assess the players for the remaining nine Premier League matches of the season, and whatever extra games he can get in Europe. Can you imagine the reaction of the players? The fans? The atmosphere around the club? It’s a no brainer.

In reality, Arsene will be allowed to meddle on until the end of the season so that his exit can be managed in a less hasty manner. So the pride of one man holds back the necessary changes to be made, and handicaps his successor even further.

Before I end, some gallows humour from Doktor Schneide, texted to me at full time… ”This is just terminal decline now. We’re about as upwardly mobile as a breeze block”

Arsene has always stated that his priority is what is best for Arsenal Football Club. If that were the honest truth, he’d hand in a genuine resignation letter this morning and sacrifice the £10 million plus he is due for the remainder of his contract. But Arsene’s priorities are not what he would have you believe. He’s going nowhere until he’s forced to, because he genuinely believes he can turn this shambles around. He’s in a lonely place.

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  1. mbg

    Mar 06, 2018, 20:49 #107761

    What I couldn't help thinking about after the trousers moment was (no not that that Scottish ballad Donald where's me trusers)but the mad dash to wengers pile from some AKB wegerites and other luvvies, to help him back on with trousers, and take them off again, something like that Steptoe & Son movie where a member of the family died and the race was on back to the house for the divie up and the reading of the will, Perry the circular at the head of the pack on his moped so he'd have an advantage, toady a close second, the mountain man peddling like mad on his bike all full of enthusiasm and ready and eager to please, just imagine it, lol. we want wenger out now.

  2. Yes its Ron

    Mar 06, 2018, 13:45 #107749

    Hi Bard - you may well be right re sacking. I think he is quite close to SK though. AW has been his vanguard in absentia (SKs) in many ways. I suppose it falls on how we construe the contract. Was it a vote of faith or more rope for Arsene to hang himself with so to save the Board and the owner of having to do the deed? I just think that the Board in the main and SK are closer to AW than people think. They must be after 22 years surely? Its a unique tenure and they ll want it to be at least similar to Fergusons departure, even if it means he sees the contract out. We ll see. Respect yr views on here anyway pal. We re all guessing really arent we.

  3. TonyEvans

    Mar 06, 2018, 12:36 #107748

    Normality has gone out of the window, and there should be no shame for any Arsenal fan wanting a thumping Milan victory on Thursday. No further evidence is necessary - Wenger will not go gracefully, that is plain to see, and the board must have no hiding place this time. A run of good results for Arsenal and we could, and probably will, be right back to square one. Wenger is down but not out, so come on Milan.

  4. CBee

    Mar 06, 2018, 9:59 #107747

    The Times is reporting that he wont step down in the summer and the board will have to sack him if they want him gone. Lets see if they have the balls to do that.

  5. Bard

    Mar 06, 2018, 9:56 #107746

    Thurs's game takes on even more significance. If we dont put in a proper shift on Thurs evening it could be curtains for the boss. There are only so many times you can trot out the 'bounce back' card. If we get walloped is he really still going to stay on ? If the paper talk is true it looks more and more like a bloody ending. My reading of the players is that they have checked out. They must know he's toast and they are in cruise mode. In sure thats all they talk about in the dressing room.

  6. Hi Berry

    Mar 06, 2018, 9:32 #107745

    What a deliciously marvellous image the somewhat confusing analogy of trousers and shirts brings to mind. Not content with creating a comedy on the pitch we now have a full blown Brian Rix farce complete with trousers around ankles. (Apologies to those too young to know who Brian Rix was!). All we need now is for the main protagonist in all this to exit via one of the many opening and closing doors, never to be seen again.

  7. markymark

    Mar 06, 2018, 8:19 #107744

    AST have balloted and voted 88% to 12% to remove him. There going through the findings next week with Ivan. I think the AST voted overwhelmingly to keep him a few years ago so it’s a strong indicator that the majority view is for him to go with maybe a majority sitting on their hands to end of season

  8. mbg

    Mar 06, 2018, 8:06 #107743

    Babu, quite right and the old weasel would never forgive us (the fans) blaming us for him getting the sack, God only knows what the old arrogant spiteful parasite would do just to stick two fingers up at us. wenger out now.

  9. Babu

    Mar 06, 2018, 7:33 #107742

    Since beating Inter at Xmas, AC Milan haven't lost a game. They are starting to pick things up, and on current form should beat us easily. Will that be enough to get Wenger the sack? I hope so. The problem is that we have to get Wenger out of the Club. If he is somehow allowed to stay at the Club in any form we are never going to be rid of this cancer. Should we somehow win the Europa League and get access to the Champions League again then it will never stop. Forza Milan!

  10. Goonhogday

    Mar 05, 2018, 21:27 #107741

    Just imagine if we lose to AC Milan and “the specialist in failure” survives that ! God forbid. Henry wouldn’t be wise. Maybe as a coach with a future eye on management or a number 2 learning the ropes but not straight in the deep end. Arsenal will need an experienced manager prepared to rebuild the mess his predecessor has left us in. We’re a root to branch case now. Wenger out.

  11. mad max

    Mar 05, 2018, 21:27 #107740

    the most worrying thing for me at the moment is getting the right manager in, henry would be a poor choice, maybe Vieira could be the man i certainly feel he would add some discipline and toughness that,s needed, personally i would opt for max allegri from juve that's if he would still come after being let down after waiting for tof to leave last season, jardim seems a good call, but i,d rather we did,nt appoint another Frenchman. the current status quo has been coming for years a lot of us saw it, but sadly the tourists and the wenger disciples have kept in a job, his bumbling press calls, and analogys have become so cringeworthy he,s bordering on the mentally unwell scenario, trousers,mirrors and putting shirts on, they,re coming to take him away a ha, they,re used to be a football club in n.5

  12. mbg

    Mar 05, 2018, 20:33 #107739

    Tony Evans, yes, a competition and Cup he and his AKB wengerites thought beneath us and treated with contempt and disdain, oh how the mighty have fallen, it's very important now eh wengerites ? Karma's a bitch. wenger out now.

  13. Up For Grabs Now

    Mar 05, 2018, 19:43 #107738

    @Gaz I couldn’t agree more with your observation about fans who say they hate Wenger, but at the same time don’t want to see Arsenal lose. Talk about head in the sand syndrome, you can’t have one without the other! I put it to those who hold this point of view, had Arsenal just won all four of the last four fixtures, instead of losing them, do you seriously think that the pressure currently on Wenger would be on the same scale? Of course it wouldn’t, as he would have already won his get out of jail trophy - The League Cup! In addition he would state that his side can go toe to toe against the best (Man City) which as we all know is currently total and utter fantasy. I am also likewise worried as you and Tony Evans are, that Wenger’s lucky charmed life will somehow continue if he pulls another rabbit out of the hat and ends up winning the ropey cup! An absolute nightmare scenario!! Unlikely I know, but after 10 years of this sh*t I just couldn’t face that possibility, so come on AC Milan do your job!! As for Henry being the next manager I also think that would not be a good idea. If any ex player was to take over, I would prefer a combination of PV4 with DB10 & MK (Despite the latter being one of the last to turn against Wenger) to restore some original Arsenal DNA back into the club! Additional coaching roles for TA and yes SB who has clearly just been shackled these last few years, not being allowed to coach any defensive discipline whatsoever.

  14. markymark

    Mar 05, 2018, 19:40 #107737

    Bard - over on le grove the chap said something quite wise I thought. Basically he said Stan gave him a get out of jail card but you only get one of those. That card also costs about 80m. I’m sure Wenger charmed Stan, however Stan will fix the problem by giving Arsenal to Josh ( next chairman? ) . Josh will then fire him in a manner as set out above by Kevin. I’ve ssid before but if your barely 40 with billions the world at your feet and being feted by Henry. Why no try and win? What’s the point otherwise? He’ll want to shake things up. His no sugar coating speach suggests a pragmatist rather than an emotional car crash like Jesus Gill, but still someone who will remove where necessary . I also think operation Ivan would not have happened without an over arching agreement. Now where did Kevin get his Ancelotti gossip from? I see his odds are shortening:)

  15. Bard

    Mar 05, 2018, 19:28 #107736

    Sorry Ron we seem to be disagreeing these days. I dont buy that the board wont sack him. Josh K will have got a pretty good close up of whats happening and will surely have been briefed by Ivan and Co. Yes they will try and make it a bloodless coup but you dont get to Silent Stan's wealth without having a hard edge. He is not Wenger's mate. He is expendable as are all lackeys. Yes the money has rolled in but Wenger is damaging the brand. He wont be here next season Id put my mortgage on it. I do agree though that Terry Henry would be a disaster.

  16. TonyEvans

    Mar 05, 2018, 18:54 #107735

    Hi Gaz - hoping and praying results go against a club you gave supported for donkeys years is surreal, but that is what we have been reduced to. Like you I wouldn't be surprised if we beat Milan - common sense says we haven't a prayer but something usually comes to Wenger's rescue, and this time it can only be the Europa. I desperately hope his luck has finally run out this time though. I am not even thinking as far ahead as who might replace him but can only agree with others who fear it may be Henry or that buffoon Rodgers.

  17. mbg

    Mar 05, 2018, 18:43 #107734

    Offside, good post, and to think we had the AKB wengerites on here all the time (until they disappeared, scotty beamed them up) crowing and spouting their long forgotten Mantra, Be Careful what you wish for, now we're actually in a worse f*****g position/situation with their messiah, I wonder what their thinking today, halfwits. You couldn't make it up. wenger out now.

  18. Yes its Ron

    Mar 05, 2018, 18:08 #107733

    UP FOR GRABS - Mate , id try and react rationally to Rodgers being appointed but but i know that i probably wdt. We try in life to give people a chance to fail at least and not to dislike people until we know them etc etc but i cant help it with Rodgers, i just cant stand the false little runt. The way he really thinks hes a billy big time, big shot Coach due to his bit of luck having Saurez in his squad and 22 donkeys for one season and nearly won a title 5 yrs back. His short arsed stubby legged stature and condescending manner to add insult to injury too..... I d give up all things Arsenal and i do know that for sure if ever that runt was appointed. To be honest, the thought of Henrys appt stirs a similar dread. AKB - A Slobberdice/Wenger dream ticket would be good. We laugh at our own Club now, so i say lets have a real humdinger of a laugh. Them two in tandem. AW and Mr 'I could manage Real Madrid' Slobberdice. The game would have gone totally mad but what fun to see! Seriously though, the day the TV journos finally nail Slobberdice will be a day to cherish. The BBC had him on toast 10 yrs or so ago and he slipped the net and crawled fat bellied leaving a trail of slime behind him and out of the frame for corruption, then again over the Eng job. Im sure theyve still got him in their sights. He shdt be in the game. SK - many would celebrate Henry as the Messiah. No point us denying it. The modern AFC might just go for the gimmic of appointing him to curry some fan joy. Yr right too, SKY are the 'appetite makers'. They brainwash the gullible into following their leads and shape their opinions. The power they have to do this is staggering. Listen to fans talking together as im sure that you do, in pubs or anywhere, theyre like little SKY lobotomised clones. The campaign is most certainly one to lever the dreadful Henry into that job and matey, it might well work. We should be all be granted a one off SKY shoot. 4 cartridges each in a 12 bore. I'm having Redknapp, Henry, Jim White and lastly the fat west indian guy on the morning SKY News, though i d like to push that tablet he carries where it hurts first, same goes with the awful Miss Wurzel who partners the big daft oaf every morning. Hes another condescending sample.

  19. Exiled in Pt

    Mar 05, 2018, 17:58 #107732

    Arsenal currently worth 1.8billion and the wa#k yank continues to make money without having to put any back in nice collateral for his business expansion in the US!! So do not get to hopeful of any change dor a year or two yet! Arsenal will never be what we all once loved. We need the owner the board and the fuc#ing zip fiddling weasel out now!! Just dont hold your breath waiting.....

  20. Offside

    Mar 05, 2018, 17:57 #107731

    Only 3 away league wins all season. Pathetic. We're actually playing like a relegation-threatened. Do everything you can at home and maybe if you're lucky get a point here and there away from home. It was always assumed that Wenger's successor would inherit a great set-up. It's now clear that it isn't going to happen. In fact, by not binning Wenger off (how did he survive losing 8-2 at Old Trafford!?) we're now going to face a massive rebuilding job under the next manager and it's likely we'll have a Liverpool-length title drought.

  21. Wardy

    Mar 05, 2018, 17:57 #107730

    It's been embarrassing for some time, but it's now a complete farce and sickens me to the core. For the last few years the board have treated us fans with contempt, so for christs sake stop going and let them try filling the ground with tourists. Whatever happened to that blatant lie of "competing with the best" when we moved to that soulless bowl they call the Emirates. I hope Kroenke and co are happy, sadly I suspect they couldn't care less as long as the balance sheet looks good.

  22. mbg

    Mar 05, 2018, 17:43 #107729

    peter wain, there's still some mate, or treat it as one anyway, they'll find something positive to mention,/build on, lol, no matter how small or ridiculous, you just wait and see, you can bet on it. we want wenger out.

  23. Ernie71

    Mar 05, 2018, 17:39 #107728

    Kev the myth of Wilshere continues.He looks like is doing something but does nothing(except get booked).Just check the results since Wilshere came back into the league team.Ozil has retired from football with his £16m a year pension given to him by Wenger.I want Wenger out now but i pity his successor with the squad he will be left with.

  24. mbg

    Mar 05, 2018, 17:22 #107727

    Did anyone notice Souness and Redknapp in the studio after the final whistle, looking at each other and grinning just holding back from bursting out laughing, lol, wenger you c**t go now. wenger out.

  25. Radfordkennedy

    Mar 05, 2018, 17:18 #107726

    Ron...and there lies the problem mate,when it comes to trying to guess what Kronke wil do if anything.Heres a man who bans the sale of kinder eggs in Wallmart in case the small parts choke a child,but if you put the egg down you can go and buy a 9mm or .45 automatic.Personally i think wiggy jnr is acting as a go-between twixt the board and the new manager whom im sure the club have already given the nod to,this club means a great deal to Kronke enterprises if only as collateral in the US,any dip in Arsenals abillity to generate real money could lead to some awkward meetings with people who back him and im sure that a smooth transition is what he will go for,and im sure the new man is already weighing up his plans for next season if not the tail end of this one.We share the same mortal fear of Henry being let loose on the club,but i can see his pal Kronke jnr being of the opinion that Henry would be a shot of adrenaline in the arm of the club maybe as caretaker with a view to making some fans excited if only in the short term if you consider ST's will shortly be up for renewal..Also Ron i notice that Sky continue to pursue the old KGB trick of continually mentioning the same phrase or words in any passage of words so many times that it enters the psyche of the listener to be the expected or the norm and therefore doesn't come as a shock when it occurs..in this case the amount of times they ask the same question to the same man and get the same answer...TH14 says yes for christ sake! '

  26. MAF

    Mar 05, 2018, 17:12 #107725

    Forget the Invincibles, this side are the Invisibles.. Thanks to Wenger, People will talk as much about ''The Invisibles'' of 2016-2018 as they will about ''The Invinceables''.....

  27. markymark

    Mar 05, 2018, 16:44 #107724

    ToOaW - it’s time! , you need to show your ultimate devotion to leader no. 1#. Drop those trousers , drop those Y fronts ( two weeks is a long time wearing the same pair ) parade boldly through the streets of Edmonton shouting “10 more years, 10 more years”. You don’t need a shirt, because yer Ard’ ToOaW your the man!

  28. Up For Grabs Now

    Mar 05, 2018, 16:26 #107723

    Yes its Ron - I must admit even I would be dithering if the choice was Wenger or fat Sam as manager of Arsenal. Maybe a case of better the devil you know! On second thoughts maybe fat Sam, as at least he wouldn't last long in the hot seat at Arsenal. More seriously though I agree with you about that moron Brendan Rogers, I wouldn't want him anywhere near Arsenal either.

  29. Arseneknewbest

    Mar 05, 2018, 16:17 #107722

    Hi Ron, I agree with your analysis and sorely wish I didn't! It suggests that kroenke must be the most risk averse billionaire in the US if he doesn't have the imagination to see that a change of manager could reverse Arsenal's evident decline and, in the process, boost profits in other areas eg tickets sales, sponsorship revenue etc One can only hope that kroenke junior is a bit more of an enterprising entrepreneur and that he has his father's ear underneath all that man made syrupy, ruggy material. It also surprises me that he cannot yet see the clear benefits associated with moving 8 million semolians off the payroll in wages and getting a vastly cheaper replacement. Eddie Howe (not my choice I'm in the Loew or Anceloti camp) could be had for an eighth of that I reckon. Wengo to Everton rumours lightened the mood a little chez nous. Here's a poser for all of you - would you swap naked, obtuse wengo for fat, even more corrupt Sam? The words choice and dog's come to mind...

  30. Yes its Ron

    Mar 05, 2018, 15:45 #107721

    up for grabs - the Everton thing is pure Daily Star i d say. Anyway, Wenger is far too much of a snob to want to be seen driving through the back streets of Walton in Liverpool to get to work each day. He simply couldnt cope with that. Havind said this, those two clowns running Everton might yet shock us on this if they pay OGL enough i suppose. Lets face it, theyre happy to waste a lot of cash on washed up players to go onto the pitch so why not similar off it? Ples, theyve been happy to besmirch Evertons proud history by appointing Slobberdice as a Coach there havent they.

  31. mbg

    Mar 05, 2018, 15:25 #107720

    There's a great idea for one of these wenger days some think he should have, all his AKB wengerites could turn up with no trousers, LOL (wenger boxers optional) they could all stand up at full time and come to attention, hee hee, could be a problem if it's cold though, I wonder would he salute back, looool. wenger out now.

  32. Gaz

    Mar 05, 2018, 15:22 #107719

    Tony E: I was also bricking myself at the thought of us winning yesterday and was really confident we'd score a couple of late goals. Absolutely hate Wenger and the Club for putting me in this situation but as I keep saying these are extraordinary times for the Club meaning I'm comfortable with wanting them to lose. What really irks me are those who say they're massive Wenger out but want us to win every game! Sadly in the real world this is just not possible. Definitely wont be surprised if we go through versus AC Milan even if for the long term future of the Club it's the worst thing that can happen

  33. mbg

    Mar 05, 2018, 14:46 #107718

    Just look at them the two biggest f*****g jokes in football , Laurel and f*****g Hardy. Get out of this club now wenger your a f*****g embarrassment. wenger out now.

  34. TonyEvans

    Mar 05, 2018, 13:34 #107717

    I am actually nervous about the Europa games against Milan coming up, in case a miracle happens and we actually win over two legs! Highly unlikely I know but with Wenger's luck you never know. The thought of Wenger somehow wriggling off of the hook yet again is too awful to contemplate. With or without his trousers!

  35. markymark

    Mar 05, 2018, 13:13 #107716

    The following is a direct quote from Laurent Koscielny. It’s astonishing stuff if not just for its message free of bull**** Paragraph 1 suggests there is no real desire amongst the players to immediately rectify the problems note : slowly Paragraph 2 is the first time I think I’ve seen a direct quote from any club player directly implicating a serving manager ( normally this is hidden source) From what’s been said here I have to draw the conclusion players are waiting for him to go! “We know we are in a bad situation, a bad period,” Arsenal’s captain said. “We tried but nothing is with us. We tried to fight and play football but you could see the confidence is very down. We miss a lot of things during the game but we need to push more again and again. The confidence will be back slowly. Directly about Wenger: Sic: “It is difficult to say if it is his fault or our fault. “

  36. Yes its Ron

    Mar 05, 2018, 12:50 #107715

    akb - precisely that mate. Until the cash flow is markedly and deeply prejudiced that Board wont sack him. Fans still fall into the trap of thinking Arsenal is a football Club. Its isnt and hasnt been since 2006. Its a sports business of which football is its 'product'. Profit is all that counts.

  37. peter wain

    Mar 05, 2018, 12:45 #107714

    any one who believes we can get appositive result on Thursday is at least one sandwich short of a picnic. The mess we are in means we must be among the favourites for relegation next year.

  38. Reality Cech

    Mar 05, 2018, 12:35 #107713

    I hope when he's standing there in just his trousers he's picked a pair with a velcro fly!

  39. TonyEvans

    Mar 05, 2018, 12:30 #107712

    I actually found myself listening to the last 20 mins or so, having switched on to see if we were losing. As we were I decided to stick with it and was willing Brighton to hold on! Thanks, Wenger, for turning me so completely against my own club of nigh on 50 years! I had convinced myself I was past caring about Wenger leaving / staying or anything about Arsenal, but now I see a genuine possibility of him being forced out building up a nice head of steam I am praying nothing saves him this time. I realise just how much I still want him out of my club once and for all. Please AC Milan administer what could be the coup de gras.

  40. Arseneknewbest

    Mar 05, 2018, 12:26 #107711

    One thing this ongoing sh*tstorm proves is just how easy it is to make pot loads of money from football if you're at the top of the tree in england. Arsenal are making millions from being hopelessly inept also rans. If that weren't the case, the toupee'd terror would've torpedoed wengo's naked arse years ago. But one would think the money grubbing kroenkes would have the imagi nation to see how much more they could've made if the atmosphere wasn't so sour. It comes back to the tried and trusted point that club owners only react when the gravy train is about to be derailed and that unless form is so dire that it'll result in relegation, then the status quo will be fine and he troublesome fans can eff off. We're screwed.

  41. Up For Grabs Now

    Mar 05, 2018, 12:25 #107710

    Ha Ha Ha, just read supposed rumours that Everton want Wenger as their next manager. Probably a story put out by Walcott’s agent, as he is finding life difficult with a manager who actually wants him to work for a living! Wouldn’t Walcott just love that, more easy street years not having to break sweat to earn millions! Or maybe it’s a last desperate throw of the dice by the AKB’s, somehow thinking we might be worried about that possibly transpiring, you know the infamous ‘Be careful what you wish for’ mantra of theirs, which hasn’t had an airing recently! Either way it’s hilarious, comedy gold.

  42. Yes its Ron

    Mar 05, 2018, 11:58 #107709

    Its AFC we re talking about here. Theyre arent going to sack AW this Season or next. They ll have to pay him up and theyre not gong to do that. I do think AW will call time on it though himself but not Seasons end. He looks a bit broken right now in a way thats not been noticeable before in my view. He and the Club will agree some sort of settlement package. The biggest worry for Arsenal fans should be the head of steam being built up for the jabbering Mr Henry to take over or worse till Mr Rodgers the never been man.

  43. Up For Grabs Now

    Mar 05, 2018, 11:16 #107708

    Probably just wishful thinking on my part, but one wonders whether the absent board members at yesterdays game were in fact in a secret meeting discussing Wenger’s future, including perhaps a skype link with wiggy himself. If they were, I hope they also watched the game on a TV screen including the post-match interview with Wenger, as that alone was cringe worthy enough to sack him!

  44. RobG

    Mar 05, 2018, 11:08 #107707

    Given Josh Kronke is supposed to be 'learning the ropes', his no shows just rank. And it is scarcely better from Gazedis and the others. And Friar being 83 doesn't stop him taking his salary from Arsenal, does it ? So many people at that Club have their own interests to the fore and so few - Anyone ? ? - looks to the Club itself. Just sad, it really is.

  45. Bard

    Mar 05, 2018, 10:56 #107706

    What happens between now and the beginning of next season will really give us an insight into how organised/dysfunctional the club are. I agree with your optimistic scenario which is that he will resign for the good of the club but one imagines he will take some persuading. The longer it lingers on the less time there will be for sorting things out for next season. A trouncing by Milan might be the straw that breaks the camels back at least I hope so.

  46. Moscowgooner

    Mar 05, 2018, 10:56 #107705

    You can hardly blame AW can you? He has only retirement to contemplate after Arsenal and he'll want to squeeze every last penny out of the Club (ie the fans) until his fingers are prised off the control column. It will be ugly and I think he'll fight every inch of the way down. The board may simply lack the guts to do the necessary. Their tolerance so far points to that - and is Kroenke even aware of what is going on? If the boy Josh couldn't even bother to make a quick run down to Brighton - popping round to the local Wallmart in US terms - it doesn't augur well does it?

  47. andy1886

    Mar 05, 2018, 10:47 #107704

    There's a very good reason to sack him now. With a World Cup summer on the way the new man will have almost no time to reorganise us and instil his way of playing. Get them in now so that they can spend the rest of the season making the necessary changes and assessing the players ready for the summer. Give them a chance to identify who will come in and who will be let go. If Arsene hangs on until the summer we can write next season off too regardless of if he stays or goes.

  48. John F

    Mar 05, 2018, 10:40 #107703

    Just wondering if the board are hesitating because of the ten mil payout and extra for the coaches.They are probably hoping that he resigns to save money which is unlikely .Wenger is using what James O'Brien calls the dead cat technique.If you don't like the way the questioning/debate is going throw a dead cat on the table then everyone talks about that.His naked analogy was his dead cat attempt.

  49. MAF

    Mar 05, 2018, 10:38 #107702

    it is an almost unbearable Situation for the fans; we Need to make jokes about it in order to Keep ourselves going but it really is beyond a Farce at this Point. as Sky said on sunday we seem to have landed ourselves with the worst owners in the entire Football league. Absent, uncaring, f*** what the fans think. all other owners try to take Action to improve their Clubs. they may not all get it right (WBA), but applaud them for trying because they care and compare them to Arsenal's owners....

  50. Paulward

    Mar 05, 2018, 10:38 #107701

    Just pray you are right Kevin and that he is not here next August. If he is I will give up attending matches completely. Tragedy,comedy or farce ? Take your pick but he has to go.

  51. Redshirtwhitesleeves

    Mar 05, 2018, 10:21 #107700

    Thanks to Brighton for hammering another nail in his coffin. Let's hope Milan do likewise on Thursday. Kev, you seem quite sure from what you are saying that the club have lined Ancelotti up, whether it's now or the end of the season? If the club had any balls they would have Wenger in this morning and give him his cards. Let him word it however he likes, put whatever spin on it that casts him in a good light if that's what he wants. Just do it today! Wenger out

  52. The Man From UNCLE

    Mar 05, 2018, 10:10 #107699

    Ian Wright made the very good point that the pattern of play seems to be totally without any purpose. We are simply passing the ball around with no end product. In fact we've been doing this for a couple of seasons now. Would be good to get Steve Bould under the spotlight for once and ask him what's happening on the training field.

  53. Dragongunner

    Mar 05, 2018, 10:06 #107698

    Kev, I wish your 'Imagine this' paragraph would happen this morning. As you say it's a no brainer the impact would have on the club, players and the majority of the supporters. Why wait, he's never won a European trophy after over twenty years of trying. He has absolutely no chance with his tactics over two legs. Get the new man in NOW.

  54. Exeter Ex

    Mar 05, 2018, 10:00 #107697

    I watched the game in the Faltering Fullback, for the first time in a few years. Years ago it was always packed in there for an Arsenal match. Yesterday it was me and a couple of other blokes. In my experience, it seems that not only is the stadium emptying out, the pubs are as well. Wish I shared the confidence Wenger is nearly done however. Remember how very, very low the bar is for him. Win a few meangingless matches towards the end of this season and we could still see him stumble on into next season.

  55. Yes its Ron

    Mar 05, 2018, 9:51 #107696

    To be honest Kev, theres no point sacking him now. It ll be done in May im sure. Hard to see the EC proving to be a salvation for AW and this squad.

  56. David1

    Mar 05, 2018, 9:22 #107695

    How long would GG have stayed on had he not got the elbow? Sad to see, but it needs to be addressed now rather than at the end of the season. From a strategic perspective, the board will probably wait until Arsenal's European destiny is confirmed. So the agony will continue for at least another few weeks. He will never be sacked mid-season, but at best (or worst, perhaps) he will be told that he will be replaced in the summer. He may well go before then, but only by falling on his sword for being betrayed by the club. Anyway - bring on the trash-talk TOOAW/Baddie. Time to rumble.

  57. Up For Grabs Now

    Mar 05, 2018, 9:15 #107694

    It’s now time for the men in white coats to step in, after Wenger’s latest display of madness, as the board as always remain absent without leave. Wenger himself no doubt thought he was displaying his superior intellect with his trousers, nudity and shirt analogy, but he was just demonstrating once again at just how far he is removed from planet earth. I didn’t think it was possible for Wenger to drag our club further down, having already made us a world laughing stock, but no out came that quote! To think that some still want him to leave with dignity!!! A little bit late now don’t you think, after that ridiculous comment!