All’s Welbz That Endz Welbz

Online Ed: Arsenal defeat Milan to progress to Europa League last eight



All’s Welbz That Endz Welbz


In the end, the balance of this tie was tipped by two penalty situations. One in the first leg at 0-0 when Milan’s Calhanoglu chose to hurdle a David Ospina challenge rather than take a fall and what would have surely been the award of a spot kick. And then last night in the second leg, with Milan 1-0 ahead, a dive by Danny Welbeck gave him the opportunity to level the scores on the night and re-establish control of the tie. Still, Corinthian spirit only ever won fair play awards, right?

Monreal and Bellerin were fit again, and Mohammed Elneny started on the bench as Arsene Wenger opted to forego a more defensive line-up yesterday evening. Milan played a more attacking formation with two out and out forwards. Early on, they certainly created chances and were rewarded with a cracking opening goal.

Nerves were calmed by Welbeck’s penalty. It was a fairly open game from that point on, Arsenal not really capable of playing ultra-defensive football and Milan needing to score two more. In comparison with the last three home matches, the attendance was relatively healthy, I would guestimate maybe only 5,000 no-shows.

In the second half, Milan had a very decent chance to go ahead on the night when Cutrone volleyed narrowly wide with David Ospina rooted to the spot, but the home side ensured things didn’t get jittery with a goal from a long range Granit Xhaka shot that the Milan keeper Donnaruuma somehow steered into the net. The young shotstopper is believed to be the next Gianluigi Buffon in Italy, but it’s a hard ask to believe based on this showing. It was good to see some attempts from distance from the Gunners. Jack Wilshere had a decent effort in the first half. Players should gamble on this more often. Xhaka’s goal demonstrated the benefit of this.

The late third Arsenal goal saw Welbeck double his tally for the evening after a good cross from Wilshere saw Ramsey’s header rebound to him. A good number of the crowd had departed by this time, presumably to beat the rush on the trains.

So a good evening’s work. Granted, there were moments that meant the second leg was no formality, but you cannot argue with a 5-1 aggregate scoreline against an Italian side showing the form that Milan are in Serie A.

There was a story earlier in the week from Charlie Nicholas that there would be a big announcement coming out of the club today or over the weekend regarding the manager’s future. I’m not so sure. What I do think is the physical attendances at the three previous home matches – and those for the Stoke, Southampton and West Ham games – will persuade the board that it’s not worth the gamble of giving Arsene another season. The Premier League is the bread and butter of the club’s operation and if people are voting with their feet every other weekend, it’s too loud a message to ignore. Should the club manage to win the Europa League they might feel obliged to let Arsene have his final season, although in truth it would be the ideal moment to bow out – on a high. An opportunity he has spurned more than once. And if they do not win it, Arsenal will not have Champions League football for a second season running – failing to make the top four in spite of the advantage of resting first team players from European competition for the first two thirds of the season. So the argument for giving Arsene another year is a difficult one for anyone to make.

So what about the Europa League? Everyone wants to avoid Atletico and there is little doubt they are by far the strongest team in the competition now. Arsenal’s best chance would be a one-off match, so they would hope to avoid drawing them before that. The other sides are clubs Arsenal need not fear, but there are no patsies left in the competition either. My feeling is that the players will raise their game – something they seem to be selective about far too often – and have a very decent chance as long as they do avoid Diego Simeone’s side.

As we await the draw, it makes a change to have something of a buzz in the air, and one of the most enjoyable things about last night was the birth of a new chant, when the home crowd adapted one of the Milan fans’ chants for David Ospina.

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  1. mbg

    Mar 19, 2018, 23:47 #108150

    Bard, ha ha nice one, expect a long drawn out essay in gobbledegook in response. wenger out.

  2. Arseneknewbest

    Mar 19, 2018, 21:01 #108144

    At the risk of being back in my echo chamber, I agree!

  3. A Cornish Gooner

    Mar 19, 2018, 20:57 #108142

    Without seeming to kya also, that was very funny Bard.

  4. Bard

    Mar 19, 2018, 20:13 #108139

    AKB; I have been incandescent all day after your post suggested that Baddie is kissing my a***. I was shaking so badly that when I attempted to write 'you cant' I wrote 'you c***' instead. As anyone with half a brain knows Baddie always has a three day beard so its like having your a*** rubbed with sandpaper. Much as Im into pain, after all what is watching Arsenal these days but pain, it is anatomically impossible for Baddie to be kissing my a*** while he is busy sucking my d***. Of course I could I have my head up my a*** over this one.

  5. Arseneknewbest

    Mar 19, 2018, 19:49 #108138

    Sad Arse. After all the sustained offence you've caused to people on here for far too long, you deserve nothing but scorn for suggesting that we all be contrite simply for enjoying babu's attacks on you. I was highly entertained by them and could not give a toss whether they're true or not. And nor should you and your boy blunder sidekick tooey given that you're both egregious liars yourselves. No double standards allowed egg boy. Grow up.

  6. markymark

    Mar 19, 2018, 17:58 #108137

    Baddie I would say climb off your high horse but according to rumour it would have to be a Shetland Pony. You really are Napoleon aren’t you! All puffed up , full of your a disgrace , full off do you know who I AM! Hurumph hurumph. Usually your type do **** all about situations and we often get the most dire threats . But 5 years later I’ve still not been marched into the CEO’s office to get my personal sacking ( your type always pretend to know people in power ) Anyway on with the show , Exeter , Bard and believe it or not I have all requested to Babu that he tones it down. Thanks very much for having done that with Jamee ( accept of course you didn’t did you !) so I shouldn’t really say you’ve had your just deserts but perhaps now you know what it’s like to be randomly abused by someone. Jeff is able to look after himself your raising that as a straw man . It’s as fake an argument as you are.

  7. A Cornish Gooner

    Mar 19, 2018, 17:14 #108136

    Apologies Shortarse. like Babu I saw what a loathsome boring knowall Cannon Balls was and naturally assumed it must be you. We all make mistakes - except you of course.

  8. mbg

    Mar 19, 2018, 15:00 #108129

    markymark, nice one, just in from a crap day at work and you've cheered me up, then we can start gutting all the weasels second and third rate good for nothing background staff/nodding dogs, coaches, trainers, physios, etc, etc,wenger out.

  9. Exeter Ex

    Mar 19, 2018, 12:16 #108126

    Badarse, as you well know, it was me, one your hated WOR clique, that pointed out there was no way you're Cannon Balls, which stopped Babu making the claim. So why are you still going on about this? Either a) you're deliberately keeping the argument going for the attention you get or b) you're very stupid. Which is it? And that's quite a few derogatory references you've made now to being green and bicycles. I didn't realise you were so anti-environment and anti-cycling. Maybe it's not so surprising you were confused with Jeff Wright after all.

  10. Badarse

    Mar 19, 2018, 11:48 #108125

    So Bimbo retracts his 'positive' claims; I stand by mine. Sound familiar? He is clearly a clown to avoid, and a nasty one. How sad that the integrity of the berks on here ignore the evidence of a wholly unpleasant character in order to satisfy there urge to try to get more ammunition to get at me. Still not a word of support for the poor beleaguered jeff wright from you worthless keyboard warriors. All these vague and frothing claims are typical of those WORs with their own personal agendas, quirks and glitches. A glitch of any colour, even a green one, is a glitch by any other name. How ironic that this Boohoo character accidentally poked you all with a bald egg, so ready to believe his tainted words that you were. You don't deserve to have a connection with such a great team as Arsenal. Now egg nogs on the command 'One!toss your omelettes. 'ONE!' Ha ha.

  11. Gaz

    Mar 19, 2018, 10:17 #108123

    markymark-we've just got to hope that this new guy is not going to just sit there and be dominated by Wenger and that he's come in with direct instructions to do what he thinks is best. And with this in mind I'm ever more hopeful he'll want to bring his own man in (Enrique?) ASAP as I can't believe he see's Wenger as 'the future'. That's my hope anyway.

  12. Babu

    Mar 19, 2018, 8:09 #108118

    Morning all, and sorry for the mix-up. Badarse is DEFINITELY not Cannon, sorry. My huge mistake. I know Jeff is Cannon, and love him. I didn't really read Arsenal news, as I wanted to distance myself from it until Wenger was gone, but for the NLD I thought I'd see what the current feelings were. Plus I was going to Milan, so thought any info would be useful. Then I saw a comment from Badarse, and somehow thought that you all had sussed that Badarse was Jeff ( that was the mistake ), and knowing that Jeff was CB I immediately put 2 and 2 together and came up with...well, who knows. Certainly not 4. After reading Badarse's posts on here I have to say that there is no way he is Jeff. The people who know me would say this is par for the course...just steaming in and asking questions later. If you saw 3 lads in THFC gear abusing a guy in an Arsenal top would you not try and help "your mate" ? For me it's a yes. Then you find out that the guy in the Arsenal top was a nonce who'd touched one of the THFC's guys kids, and they had caught up with him? OK; so you give the Arsenal guy a kick in the balls and off you'd trot. Logical. So sorry Jeff, you're still my Leader! Wenger Out!

  13. Hi Berry

    Mar 19, 2018, 8:00 #108117

    Is this the five minute argument or the full half hour? There used to be an Arsenal blog over here.

  14. markymark

    Mar 19, 2018, 6:48 #108116

    This might get lost at the end of this enormous thread but probably worth pasting in and worth a comment Ivan and Raul met the fan groups prior to Watford , for some reason it was said that Raul had overseen 8 management changes at Barca. It appears Raul said this . Then from Ivan Ivan replies: “Fair question. I have no interest in fighting for 5th, 6th, even 4th. We want to compete to win the league. Not going to go into change of manager, it’s not the right forum for that and it’s not respectful. Just because the manager hasn’t changed doesn’t mean there hasn’t been any changes, there have been many and a lot of investment. Recruiting the best people” Now seem may draw comfort on their respect to Wenger, however this is the first time I’ve noted that Ivan hasn’t taken the opportunity to say Wenger is the best man for the job. Why does Raul feel the need to discuss his history of manager replacements ? Me thinks it’s definitely a hint that Wenger’s removal is happening.

  15. mbg

    Mar 19, 2018, 1:22 #108115

    CORNISH GOONER, Maureen gets it because he's a winner, remember the British/English press just love a loser. wenger out.

  16. mbg

    Mar 19, 2018, 1:10 #108114

    Bard, markymark, apparently there was a streaker at Cheltenham who instead of running came onto the course on a donkey called wenger, I wonder was it westlower. wenger out

  17. mbg

    Mar 19, 2018, 0:48 #108113

    Bard, yes there's only two arsene wengers there's only two arsene wengers. we want wenger wenger out.

  18. mbg

    Mar 18, 2018, 23:57 #108112

    markymark, sorry only seeing your post now, just type in 90 minutes and it will bring you to the sports news site it's on there.

  19. Exiled in Pt

    Mar 18, 2018, 22:04 #108111

    Mark, i dont think most of us on here take any notice of what they say to be honest. Think we can all see who is genuine and who is just a plum. To be fair i blame the international break, totally helps take the pressure of the zip fiddler and the club in general. Hence the topic of conversation on here the last couple of days

  20. David1

    Mar 18, 2018, 22:00 #108110

    Badarse- I'm delighted that you think it's good to change your mind. What you have believed can no longer sustain you - it is time to stop hanging on to old views. The end is dark, and the new world promised never materialised in so many ways - time to see the truth.i know you know what I mean. Wenger out.

  21. markymark

    Mar 18, 2018, 21:44 #108109

    A Cornish / Exiled in PT - fine by me gentlemen I’ve got better things to do then feed ToOaW’s archive obsession . By ignoring him though I will constantly be goaded by him suggesting I’m not willing to answer . So as long as people are willing to accept I’m holding off to allow football discussion it’s okay with me. The problem that both AKB and I have said in the past though is ignoring trolls does not always work. They continue to hurl abuse and push boundaries . If both ToOaW and possibly Baddie went we would just talk football. Badarse may try and defend himself but all I see is postings about Eggs. If he kept to football nobody would have an issue. ToOaW is a lost cause.

  22. Exiled in Pt

    Mar 18, 2018, 21:29 #108108

    Cornish i agree, this has all got rather boring, we are all able to read to understand who is and who isn't a large knob when it comes to posting on here!! Jose gets the harder ride from the press due to his winning arrogance and lets be honest we all hate him but 9 times out of 10 he says it right. The zip fiddler due to the fact he is willing to discuss anything with the press still seems to get treated with kid gloves. Living off past glories he just never upset them like Mourinho!! Kronke the board and Wenger out!!

  23. markymark

    Mar 18, 2018, 21:11 #108107

    I have had a good look through the archive posts , the problem is that Jamee’s most unpleasant posts were removed. This is a problem as we can no longer see what s nasty piece of work he was. All you can see is the references to his white supremacy .Oh yes and a character called Leek continually referring to another poster as Anus. In that febrile nasty atmosphere we must remember that Badarse the champion of the oppressed chose to align himself with Jamee.

  24. markymark

    Mar 18, 2018, 20:40 #108106

    Oh for god sake ToOaW I’ve just read it , it says my. Name Baba me obey Jamee . Obviously taking the piss out of you . No I don’t remember writing that but good on anyone that did. Are you trying to hang your whole argument on that ! By the way if you look at Mad Monk I believe he was the chap who challenged you to meet him down the pub. You then as BBA ran off . Are you trying to say I was BBA there as well? What is increasingly clear is both Wenger Boyz never attend Arsenal matches

  25. CORNISH GOONER

    Mar 18, 2018, 20:08 #108105

    Guys, how about we get back to talking about football? 2 very interesting Cup games today which confirm ( imo) that AFC as currently managed are going to find it very hard to get back to the top table. Secondly, could someone explain to me why Mourinho gets such a hard time in the Press &, in comparison, Arthur a pretty easy ride? Both have massive egos, are completely self centred & delusional but Man U seem to have considerably more points on the league table.

  26. Arseneknewbest

    Mar 18, 2018, 17:51 #108104

    Sad arse. Jeff and I had a long running argument in which he used some typically lazy language to take a few wholly uninformed potshots at Corbyn. Like you also claim,I found Jeff's oeuvre highly distasteful when it came to politics. But unlike you I was ever prepared to call out his cowardly racism. You, on the other hand, always shut your dish. Where you and I differ about Jeff (or you if babu is to be believed) is the view that wenger is a sh*t football manager. In that respect he or you is spot on. Bard put his pennyworth in without hearing the entire story. And I didn't back away and you pseudo provocatively suggest. Au contraire I suggested that it be left to me and Jeff(ie you) to resolve it ourselves. So stop kissing bard's arse badarse (is there an echo in here?) and stick to crapping on about eggs and how loveable Tooey is. Its about your only level old man.

  27. Exeter Ex

    Mar 18, 2018, 16:59 #108103

    It is hilarious how often you post something about those two and then they confirm it. Toady & Badarse's repeated goodbyes then returns are brought up. Almost immediately Toady says a final goodbye 4 times over. Badarse's delusions are brought up. He then comes on and says he's trying to save us, and that he meant to call himself 'Brain' but mistyped! (I recall very well how he was 'Brian' for a few days, posting on numerous occasions. At first he denied he was Badarse when asked, then finally admitted it.) It's hilarious, you could not make this stuff up. Keep it coming boys, as you say you've got us on the run... don't listen to anyone who says you're digging yourself deeper and deeper. Oh and Badarse stop the fake posturing on the moral high ground, I just saw Babu off, you read that. You're so obvious.

  28. TOOAW

    Mar 18, 2018, 16:51 #108102

    Nark.... You're sinking fella. Post 102459 was you and you only. (BBA) Now tell me that you never posted under BBA. Two faced, confused, lying hypocrite. Attend, boycott, protest or spend. Clearly obvious as to why you wish to see the back of Badarse and myself.

  29. Badarse

    Mar 18, 2018, 16:46 #108101

    Incidentally, what sort of a cretin is Babu? I disliked jeff's politics and the way in which he couched them-to fit each and every scenario. I cannot say I enjoyed his name calling or his insults either. However, how can anyone want to hunt the lad down? I would stand by the chap under such a vile assault; where are the strong supporters from this site? After all he was in the 'clique'. I do recollect that that ugly and nasty character AKB(and we all know what the B stands for, vicious) assailing the chap and being rebuked by the Bard. I was chuffed with that as it confirmed my like for the Bard and also saw AKB(and we all know what the B stands for, fleetfoot), run away at high speed. I do think some should show a little integrity however difficult and against your natures in order to support the absent jeff wright. I will.

  30. markymark

    Mar 18, 2018, 16:44 #108100

    Badarse - again this delusional we have them on the run nonsense. What are you on about man? You continually clear off when the Going gets tough. Every one of us who you supposedly have on the run tend to comment at least 4 or 5 times a week. The coward who disappears is you Baddie , do you not see that ? As I said two toxic peas in a pod ToOaW and Baddie . Do you ever actually comment on Arsenal? No articles ever and continual postings about eggs. I just don’t see what you get out of this . It’s pretty obvious that you and toadie do this please don’t go rubbish and why don’t you both take 6 months off go onto Untold and see if your desire for a Wenger unto death situation pans out .

  31. Badarse

    Mar 18, 2018, 16:20 #108099

    TOOAW don't go, we have this motley crew on the run. OK Nark, I have never posted anywhere else, I do not know how or have any interest in doing so, it is your lost souls that I am trying to save, and I have a deep regard for the OG. Babu is a twit with lots of guff to say, Corny, yes facts offered but why sift and where does the obsession of repeating get you? Are you so lonely that you need some kind of position, a claim to fame or a soupcon of recognition, even a false one in the Towers of the OG? Nark once more you need to consult with one of the two people that I have high regard for. Ron, for his insightful posts, and The Dark Lord himself, Bard. Each would know inherently that jeff wright-who chastised, criticised and insulted me has not the same persona as the magnificent Badarse. To reiterate as this site loves past history, the Badarse monicker became toxic and I decided not to post anymore. However I changed my mind, is that OK Eggman and David1? I know in your fevered imagined doctrines it isn't cricket but it is life. I decided to post as Brain, but mistyped Brian. I didn't really attempt to cover my traces and I believe I posted 4 times, ask Corny to verify, he likes that sort of thing. My memory serves me that I was a supporter of the lone westlower who was getting flack on this particular day. Well another good guy and true Arsenal fan has flacked off. I will square with you all, I shall suffer from ennui and disappear sometime, but always be ready for a return, I am the Scarlet Pimple after all. OK Nark? Never been on another website, not remotely like jeff wright the Lying Mail man, posted 4 times as Brain and only to support westlower. Incidentally I think if you get the master troll Corny to check then whilst he's at it he may see a Badarse post admitting his foolishness at the time. Liar, cheat, etc., to my face? No way, cowards. Ha ha. You have been poked with a bald egg. AKB (and we all know what the B stands for, stupidity). Good old Arsenal.

  32. markymark

    Mar 18, 2018, 15:58 #108098

    Bard - that’s right wasn’t it off to Cheltenham then never seen again . ToOaW it sort of feeds the troll by responding yet again , I’m very open to discussion with you . But it’s very one way . I was hoping you’d discuss why you entered these personas some of which are obsequious and sometimes creepy invites to meet with you . Followed by belligerent hectoring phases . Yet we hear nothing. You even accused me of being one of your personas (BBA) crazy stuff ToOaW just plain crazy . I think the Jameeson cold shoulder effected you as badly as maybe Westie leaving left Baddie unhinged. Are you actually going ? It’s now 4 Times you’ve suggested your off.

  33. Exeter Ex

    Mar 18, 2018, 15:47 #108097

    markymark - the manic posting then absences (often melodramatically announced as permanent) is erratic behaviour suggestive of mental health issues, it's true, as are his accusations of poor mental health to abuse those who challenge his absurd, antagonistic offerings. Oddest of all was the 18 month absence - it seemed he'd found something better to do but no, when he returned it soon became clear he'd been reading all comments all day every day the same as ever all that time, simply not contributing. Really weird. The wife logging him on every day rings true to me - you can envisage he is put in a corner, set up and told to stay there all day, out of the way.

  34. Bard

    Mar 18, 2018, 15:45 #108096

    We seem to be going through one of our regular identity crises. It seems the pro Wengerites have terrible trouble sticking to one identity. I remember that idiot Jamerson a while back posting under all kinds of names. Same comments different name. Who and what is Babu? Is he an adjective or an adverb ? Is it an abbreviation of babbling or blubbering. Either way he seems on the edge and in need of care and attention. Baddie hasn't been the same since his site mate Westlower disappeared on the way back from Cheltenham a few years ago. Back in the day there were a few more pro Wengerites on here. Many Dodd, Amos, Chris. Some have defected to the North Korea of Arsenal sites where dissent is banned. But Baddie has remained loyal. Sadly his posts have become more and more surreal. Im not quite sure what they have to do with Arsenal but hey the online sooner is a broad church.

  35. TOOAW

    Mar 18, 2018, 15:40 #108095

    No crisis here Nark. My take on Arsenal has always been one of support. I've just exposed you as a two faced, confused, lying hypocrite. I can hear your ' supporters' sniggering behind your back. Hee hee hee. "Narks a liar" Meanwhile, Badarse has his feet up chuckling with his family at all of this irrelevant BS. Have a great day. Over and out. Bonjour rodders. Ta da. Power off.........

  36. markymark

    Mar 18, 2018, 15:22 #108094

    Exeter Ex - just one odd thing about this whole incident is Badarse’s reaction to it all. claiming the usual Badarsian rants of cowardice against those who weren’t directly involved . But not directly denying the allegations . It seemed off kilter and a bit, if not very strange. I believe there maybe something to all of this even if it is that Baddie suffers some form of malady . You touched on it with sociopathic . If for instance He is bi polar or has had psychotic episodes ( true meaning is altered reality, we link this wrongly in modern culture with violent mania ) then you have somebody who comes on here and throws out a whole series of alternative odd events . He might not have the mental capacity to determine truth from fiction. It would simply be an addition to his internal narrative. I’m not sure I believe the back story Baddie gives about his wife logging him on each time. I suspect Baddie is manipulative . You can see this by his attempts to ingratiate himself with one poster whilst attacking others . I strongly suspect that Baddie is not who he likes to portray. The Babu comments have been instructive in seeing Badarse fail to deny and almost disappear. Babu appears to have put Badarse and ToOaW into crisis. This I have to admit has thoroughly amused me. The simple answer maybe that Badarse has episodic mental health issues leading him to engage in a periodic flow of his belief in his constant postings which is then interrupted by drug treatment .

  37. markymark

    Mar 18, 2018, 14:35 #108093

    ToOaW - I ask again where have I lied ? I patiently answer your questions yet again to the best of recollection . Bear in mind tooaw I do this in full knowledge you never answer a question , still haven’t admitted to how many personas you have , suspect you’re a Tottenham Troll and seem weirdly angered when I go to a match which is rare under the mediocre Wenger regime ? You are very very odd. Are you locked in an attic somewhere unable to see your beloved Wengo? If your going to go just go. For goodness sake we’ve had this goodbye off you for most of today and in previous occasions . No ones stopping you . Ps. Shut the door on the way out

  38. Babu

    Mar 18, 2018, 14:33 #108092

    Yes, you're right. Badarse is not Cannon. Jeff Wright was Cannon. I will never post again. Sorry.

  39. TOOAW

    Mar 18, 2018, 14:23 #108091

    Nark. You are a confused, lying hypocrite. Not one shilling of defence toward my post. Go and demonstrate against the machine and then sneak in to a match whilst no-one is looking. And then you argue it's all Arsene's fault. Online Gooner needs you more than ever these days it seems. Au revoir. Over and out. Ta da.

  40. Exeter Ex

    Mar 18, 2018, 14:12 #108090

    Babu - Hmmm. So why you also calling this Cannon Balls character 'Jeff Wright'? No, I believe Badarse when he says he has to get his wife to turn the computer on for him and he doesn't know how to use the internet and only goes on this site for that reason. No way he was posting as someone else on another site a decade ago, and as anti-Wenger. He ties himself in knots, contradicts himself and is hypocritical, he can be incompetently deceptive (Brian) and tells silly lies ('I'm not going to post anymore') but I believe his devotion to Wenger is genuine. What you're suggesting is a whole other level of almost sociopathic behaviour. You're on here just the throw the applecart over, for its own sake.

  41. Babu

    Mar 18, 2018, 13:47 #108089

    Exeter Ex - I can guarantee that Badarse is Cannon Balls. I read his nonsense for 10 years. He was a mong on that site ( I use the word "mong" to refer to his ancestry, as he might be related to Genghis Khan ), and he's certainly exactly the same on here. No doubt. Apart from the obvious 180 degree switch in his "beliefs". It's sad, but true.

  42. Exeter Ex

    Mar 18, 2018, 12:56 #108088

    Babu is messing with everyone. There's no way Badarse was ever Cannon Balls. He's just not that smart. Remember how easy it was to see through his 'Brian' persona. He genuinely thinks there is a clique of people that all know each other on here. He cannot fathom how a disparate bunch could have independently reached the same conclusion that Wenger's time is up otherwise. It may seem the default position of any sane or rational observer to the rest of us, but he and Toady live in their own, delusional, worlds where it is 'important' they provide an 'alternative' voice on here - as incoherent, muddled and misguided as those voices sound to everyone else. And Toady or Badarse saying they're not going to post anymore doesn't mean anything I'm afraid. They've both done it many times before and, shameless and lacking in self-awareness as they both are, then always return as if nothing has happened.

  43. Gaz

    Mar 18, 2018, 12:18 #108087

    Thank **** for that. One down one to go...

  44. markymark

    Mar 18, 2018, 12:14 #108086

    ToOaW if you really are leaving I’d suggest a local college course “Basic English language , literature . Finally you may discover the true meaning of fickle! How many times man, even Exeter has tried to give you an understanding. Fickleness is not defined by action , therefore if I spend £3.50 on an Arsenal programme and complain about Arsenal it’s not fickle , you may argue that my action is misguided but it’s not fickle . If I say Wengo’s crap. Then after a series of wins I say he’s brilliant , then we loose twice and I say he’s rubbish that’s Fickle. Do you not see the difference . That’s why I tried to explain to you in that lengthy posting the other day. Bard of course cut to the chase and just said your an idiot. You can do many things but please don’t mangle the English Langsuge. For that medieval torture should be imposed . Btw you can stick your 80’s power pop balads up your arse . Goodbye squeak goodbye

  45. Arseneknewbest

    Mar 18, 2018, 11:54 #108085

    Tooey - Naturally, I didn't read the other sh*t, but your last sentence suggests you're departing. Wahaaaaay! We'll have a virtual party to celebrate the day after you disappear. @fackofftooey

  46. TOOAW

    Mar 18, 2018, 10:58 #108084

    Nark. The problem with the fickle Gooner is people like yourself. Now, you claim to be a gooner and can attend any match any time. You claim you can boycott and protest. You've already laid claim that you have used dozens of guises to keep the numbers up for online gooner. Mick Jones being the latest one I've unearthed. A couple of days ago you stated that ' if I want to go to a match I do so'.... Early last year (posts 102415 & 102555) you claimed that you will never attend until Arsene Wenger has gone. Now I've exposed you as somebody who's extremely confused and now a blatant liar. And you have the nerve to criticise Badarse. It's amazing when you look back on comments over the last few years and several negatives are telling the world the same regurgitating rubbish whilst Arsene takes your money and is still in charge of AFC. Anyway. See ya fellas, au revoir losers. markymark is a fraud. Over on out. Bye bye.

  47. Babu

    Mar 18, 2018, 10:53 #108083

    Sadly the *GREAT NEWS* about Wenger leaving appear only to be the thoughts of Shaka Hislop. Oh well. I really wish that he would leave the Club but believe he never will, and will carry on in a supervisory role at Board level as a "Director" until he finally hangs up his boots. I have been #wengerout for a long time, since 2007 or 2008. I was on another forum, and a poster on there had started posting mildly Anti-Wenger posts...nothing serious... but critical of Le Boss. Cannon Balls was his name. I had known Cannon for years. I first discovered this forum in '98 or '99. I was abroad, and this new way of connecting with people was amazing. You could talk about The Arsenal with other like-minded people from all around the World. We had live chats during games. It was fantastic. It was unbelieveable. No more going to the British Library to read the Telegraph sports section from a month ago to find out what my team had done. The Internet was AWESOME. Cannon joined later, and was immediately confrontational. I thought he was unfairly treated, so remember siding with him against 2 posters who he alleged were the same person, GunGun, and Gunfire, and we became friends. Internet friends. What united us was the internet, and our love of The Arsenal. So, background done. Cannon became critical of Wenger, and I followed him. He was my Messiah, and I followed. All Hail Cannon Balls! Wenger was the problem at The Club, and Cannon would expose his nonsense and rightly be crowned "King of the Internet" ( Arsenal fans section ) I was overjoyed, my heart was in my mouth...could I really become ... " Prince of the Internet"... or at least be in the upper echelons of power? My mind was racing. I followed Cannon blindly. I corrected his spelling when I replied to posts of his, I harassed his enemies ( well, almost everyone else on the forum really, although I did meet some great people on there. Morning Gaz, btw. ), and I hung on his every posting, however infantile. He would post pictures of donuts. The Internet was new and wonderful, and Cannon would post a donut as a reply sometimes. It was incredible. There for the World to see was the perfect answer to any question. A picture of a donut. He was a Genius! A true Revolutionary. Together we would no doubt one day be both hailed as the Messiahs. Posting pictures on the internet would topple Arsene Wenger, the Manager of Arsenal Football Club. It was a crazy idea, but it just might work! There was another donut. And another one. I followed the trail. Round the corner. Past the British Legion. And then it happened. BANG! A little chap in a duffel-coat smacked me on the back of the head with a truncheon, put a sack over my head and man-handled me into his basement! BolloXS! I was trapped in Cannon's basement.He tied me to a radiator that he turned off in the winter and on in the summer. He was a sadist. An evil man. I would wake up in the morning and forget that I was in Cannon's basement. I would open the windows, the sun was shining, it was a beautiful day, the birds were singing, and then I would start up my computer, check to see what the World was doing, contemplate what I was going to do, and BANG!!! It had been a dream. Here I was, locked in Cannon's basement again. I heard the key in the lock. Jeff came in. He would utter some semi-literate buffoonery and depart, and leave me there, trying frantically to decipher this gibberish that lay before me. It used to tear into my soul, my very essence. What was I doing here? Why had it come to this? But I remained strong. The Messiah was right, Wenger had to go. No pain - no gain! Being Cannon's lapdog would save the World. Cannon would occasionally take me out for walks. Free at last from the basement. He would go to The Windmill to get his liquid lunch, and I would go with him. Cannon was off out, so I went out. Brilliant! Let's go for a walk! But Cannon took me out with him in an imitation leather dog gimp-mask, on all fours, attached by a lead. He would drag me through the streets, occasionally beating my naked arse with his copy of The Gooner. But I was defenseless, chained, I had to obey. He was my Master. So I followed. We would meet people as we walked. The conversations would start pleasantly enough, but then Cannon would get the wrong end of the stick again and just start on the guy, and I, his trusty companion, would try and save him. Usually it was futile, as the bondage suit that Cannon had strapped me into restricted my movements, and the gimp-mask also obstructed my sight, so usually I would limp away from these encounters, badly beated and scarred, but still safe in the knowledge that even though my Master Cannon had had his arse handed him on a plate again over any number of topics, the one Absolute Certainty in Life was that Cannon knew the truth about Wenger, and the Truth would Set you Free, and would hopefully get me out of his basement. This hideous existence carried on for years and years. A daily battering of the senses. Jeff would come in and I would tremble. I would plead with him to say something normal. Sometimes he would. He would mention where he'd been, give you some insight into his World. The World outside his basement. He would tell me about his family; his life; his dreams; what he had done; little insights into Jeff: the Man behind the Messiah Mask. I loved Jeff again. We would chat about our very different lives, and one thing I will have to say...in all the time on the other forum...Cannon never abused me on the Forum. Not once. I was his friend. A good friend. An Internet Friend. Cannon had shown me the Truth about Wenger.... very much like USMartin had shown me the Truth about The Board.... ( but that is a much, much, much longer story ) and I was a happy little bunny. I would wake up in the cold, dark basement and wait for Cannon to open the door and let a little light in, feed me some bread and water, change my litter-tray, and then depart. Then Cannon's mood-swings got worse. He would open the door to the dungeon in the morning and I could smell the whiskey on his breath. He was having marital problems. His little Cannon wasn't operating properly, and he would force me to clean his cannon and all the accompanying bits regularly. A rammer used to drive home the powder and ball to the breech, a wad-screw was used to remove bits of dirt, a priming iron used to pierce the cartridge, making it fire sooner, and then a sponge would be used to clean the discharge away, before it was loaded with fresh powder. I used to love polishing Jeff's Cannon. I would make it shine so brightly because I used to really love the guy. Sure, I was in his basement, but I was in "his" basement. It was a good place. Cannon would leave the house with a spring in his step in the morning. He had a friend. A real Internet Friend chained in his basement. His brand spanking new shiny Cannon, attended to so lovingly by his gimp prominently displayed. He was going to be the King of the Internet again today! It was great to see! Sadly,he would return in the evening with his stained and dirty Cannon and Accessories in a little carrier-bag and would toss them to me to clean. he had been given another good buggering by the Collective Internet ( AFC section ) and I had to clean up the mess. But it OK. When Wenger was gone I would be let out. Jeff had promised. Jeff knew that when Wenger had been removed everything would be perfect again. Me and Cannon against Wenger. How could we lose! ON and on it went, me and Cannon against Wenger. Slowly the tide turned. There were murmurs, dissent, rumblings. It had started. Was it because of Cannon Balls? Of course it was. Cannon was slowly but surely changing the future. We would have Wenger out shortly. Turn the Clock forward a few years...Imagine my surprise when...just before the NLD in February 2018... I pop onto the OG to see what the mood is, and see my old mate. My friend. My Internet Friend. My Special Internet Friend. My Very Special Internet Friend. It's him. Of course it's him. He's changed his name, but it's him for sure. You never forget a friend. Not such a close friend. Not an Internet Friend. Not someone who you've shared your Internet Life with for all these years. But what is this? He's changed. Thankfully he's taken the duffle-coat off, but there's something else. Sure, he still reeks of piss, and he is still fighting with everyone on the Internet...of course he is. Check! And he's getting his arse handed to him every day. Yes, check! And he still thinks he won? Check! And then he posts absolute garbage that he thinks is funny/intellectually stimulating/the musings of a wise man... Yes!!! It's Cannon. Cannon. Mr. Balls. He's still going! Awesome! But what is this? Where are the rantings about the funny-headed frenchman? Where is the mocking of his alleged affair, the...well, what the hell! I mean really! WHAT THE HELL! What is going on? Here is the same man posting pro-wenger stuff on a forum, and upsetting people. Same Modus Operandi. Exactly. But totally the opposite. I was shattered. All my dreams came crashing down. I wished that one day, in the future, me and Cannon would enjoy a pint at the Windmill when Wenger was gone, toasting our little part in his downfall, but now this! Why Cannon, why have you done this. I am devastated. All the posts on the other Forum...were they all lies? Or is this where you are lying? Or have you changed your mind? So many questions...so little time. Although funnily time is something I do have, so I'm going through the other Forum one post at a time, 20 mins. in the morning, 20 mins at lunch, and then maybe 30 mins. in the evening, to remember the good old days. This is no hardship for me, Cannon, as it's like going through an old diary. It will probably take me a year...but it's been brilliant so far. 2008 I was...but I'll leave that. Just to be sure it's lovely to read back over the good old days and that I'm really disappointed in you Cannon. Why have you changed. I looved you mate. You helped me through so many sad days, when I could see no future for this football Club. You were always there to reassure me, and now you've changed to this. So do you now believe Wenger is OK? So do I then. Thanks mate. I love you. I knew you would know the way to the light, the true path. So it's Wenger for Life now is it? Yeah, I love you man. I miss our chats. But don't fret, I've found you, and we're a team again. Don't let the barstards grind you down, Cannon. I'm with you all the way. THere's only one Arsyene Wenger,,, stockholmsyndrome.,.. pretty please, #stockholmsyndrome <3

  48. markymark

    Mar 18, 2018, 8:09 #108082

    Hi MBG have you got a ink for this or site name? Cheers

  49. Babu

    Mar 18, 2018, 7:27 #108081

    Morning Jefff. Remember on the SG Forum, Feb 23rd, 2008, 11:15. You quoted your hero at the time, Tony Soprano. What quote did you use? "Small men only cast a long shadow when the sun is setting." Oh, the irony! You really couldn't make it up. lols.

  50. mbg

    Mar 18, 2018, 0:56 #108080

    Fantastic news if true, according to 90 minutes the weasel is close to announcing his retirement or when he's going to stand down, it can't ome soon enough, i know it's 12.45 am but i'm going to have another beer. Wenger out.

  51. markymark

    Mar 18, 2018, 0:00 #108079

    ToOaW in this weird world you frequent ( I wonder how your close colleagues perceive you? ) I really do think you’d have an easier time of it if you handled Trumps or maybe Kim Il Jongs PR instead . You come across as a 2nd rate Russian cyber bot you see plaguing reader columns. From what I can deduce you were constantly seeking affirmation from Jamee who basically fullfilled your political social outlook and leanings. Jamee though thought you were stupid and low rent ( he was a crashing snob ) so completely ignored you . You then became Colesey’s Parrot or maybe you were Colesey ? When Colesey mugged off into the Sunset you then created the BBA character a total arsewipe who you have cheekily blamed on me. Meanwhile Baddie had a weirdo sort of stalking like relationship with Ron, part seeking his approval and part spiteful vendetta from Baddie. When he realised he would never be as popular as Ron . Baddie has now decided he better try and play at being pals . So Ron gets halfway normal posts sent to him while the rest of us groan under the weight of the Bloody awful egg related posts ( what is so funny about eggs ffs ) this leaves just you and Baddie. I almost feel sorry for Baddie as I’m sorry to say this, but I suspect Baddie doesn’t actually like you much. If Westie returned you’d get the Bum’s rush pretty sharpish. Both of you are doomed to be stuck together like two festering peas in a pod. It’s a sort of purgatory for Wengerists.

  52. markymark

    Mar 17, 2018, 22:07 #108078

    ToOaW - most of us resigned on with either new monikors or in my case one from around 10 years previously . Yes believe it or not some people referred to me by that early 90’s poor mans rapper nickname . BBA - is you pal , nothing to do with me. Mad Monk ??? Not sure I recognise that one. Jameebba if the post basically says Jamee is a tosser then it’s possibly me but then again it’s probably you going “ I love you Jamee and as usual not receiving a reply” Mungo was Bonzo’s brother though I didn’t really pursue ( I’ve already mentioned him ) Jamee made out he had a brother so I thought I’d give Bonzo one. I think Mungo used to post stating his brother was nuts. If only Jamee’s brother has done the same. You may notice a trend in my characters . Each one was a piss take of either Badarse or Jamee . I still think my best was the Mad Monkey ruler who used to quote Badarse sayings . He was also screaming Cowards , Quislings etc. Thanks AKB that is much appreciated . I think ToOaW thinks I’m a Prison Officer. People would be very surprised if they knew what we put up with considering the job role. As you mention my role demands minimal social network exposure or being seen to have any form of public disturbance . It’s actually there as a protective measure for us in some ways . Stops the toads if this world stalking us. Now toad let’s run through your ones shall we. Be so good as to admit please

  53. Arseneknewbest

    Mar 17, 2018, 21:45 #108077

    Tooey - I think you're in a minority of one on here if you believe Marky has credibility issues. He's been completely upfront about his views on Arsenal, the aliases he used (when the re-registration came in many of us needed to change monikers), and he's also engaged truthfully and directly with you when you rather creepily offered to meet him in a pub. By the way, I'm still waiting for you to take me up on my offer of a truth and reconciliation session! Marky has also partly revealed why sensitivities around his job means he has to tread carefully. I understand that because it used to apply to me as well. I wonder what you do tooey to make a living. In essence, Marky is evidently trustworthy. You don't even support Arsenal and nor does sad arse it seems so you're both instantly sussed as liars now. Moreover there's a miasma hanging over you suggesting you have no personal integrity. Now, take your tongue out of discredited badarse's fundament and admit defeat spudman.

  54. TOOAW

    Mar 17, 2018, 21:24 #108076

    Interesting Nark. Within the last 14 months you have commented under markymark, Mark from Aylesbury, Bonzo, Mungo, Leek the squeek, mad monk, BBA, JameeBA plus more. January 2017 seemed quite a popular month for all of your guises. And you've got the nerve to pick holes in Badarse. Liar and hypocrite.

  55. markymark

    Mar 17, 2018, 21:23 #108075

    Badarse before you sign off for good we need answers . I have oddly called you short arse I think , perhaps it was some sort of remote viewing. How tall are you ? I’m guessing 5’4” with a size 8 shoe. Are you an angry man in a duffle coat? Have you really been carrying on this pretence for 10 years. Like a few hear I have to give Babu due regard for proving me with the 24 hours of my Gooner forum life . If Babu minus the M word wishes to continue I am waiting with baited breath

  56. markymark

    Mar 17, 2018, 20:23 #108074

    Toad it depends on when the switch happened to single sign on registration. Generally most of my ire was directed to Jameeson and Badarse. If Jameeson went 18 months ago that would have been about it. If it was 2 years ago I’d suggest it was then How many sign ons have you done?

  57. TOOAW

    Mar 17, 2018, 20:12 #108073

    Nark.... 4??? And only 1 in the last 2 years ??? Correct????

  58. markymark

    Mar 17, 2018, 19:59 #108072

    Toady you’ve already answered this overall I’d say around 4? Last two years only 1 I think . We’ve not been able to double logon so I haven’t . You keep on thinking I’m Scruff which I’m not I was Bonzo , Professor yaffle and I did a series of skits based on Badarse being s demented ruler who also happened to be a Bonobo Chimpanzee . Colesey played the part of an angry half ape man. It was completely bizarre and more importantly used to wind up Badarse . The speeches of Badarse were relayed via this Monkey King and yes I’m sorry to say I did spin it to make him sound even more demented. I’ve actuallly been very open about my logging characters . I suspect that Wrinkly and Ken Dodd may have been dual logins from others. Why do you seemed so surprised I dig out Badarse? The guys an A hole Now over to you how many characters toadie ?

  59. A Cornish Gooner

    Mar 17, 2018, 19:24 #108071

    Badarse, or should that be Shortarse. So, I am a cowardly sniping git. In what way am I treading a fine line in stalking and harassment? And why would you advise caution? Is that a threat? Was it cowardly or stalking on my part to point out that you live in Ramsgate not Blackburn? YOU said Jackie Pallo lived nearby. Or that you are 70/71 not 83 and that your birthday was on 7th March. Both mentioned by YOU on this site. Or that you DID take part in the recent NHS protest. Again, something YOU mentioned on here. You ask why any 'normal' individual would waste such a long time on nonsense. We’ve all been asking ourselves that, about you, for years. Now it seems it’s (possibly) been going on since 2008. Once again you protest that you are being ‘hounded, vilified and insulted’ because of your views. That’s partly true, but it’s mainly due to your attitude, something that has been suggested again and again and again, without you taking the slightest bit of notice. As Alsace mentioned you shouldn’t be put aside out of displeasure at your views. You keep referring to a ‘clique’. I would suggest that you are in a ‘claque’ of two. I’m not entirely convinced that you are/were ‘Cannon Balls’, but the similarities are striking. To be honest it doesn’t matter to me whether you admit it or deny it. From the lie you told me all those years ago I wouldn’t believe whatever you said. BABU. I’ve enjoyed your expose, but as markymark suggests I think you should drop the aggressive stuff especially the use of the ‘m’ word. I think it was Jamerson who used it two or three times a while back. His posts were, rightly, deleted. Take note Badarse!

  60. TOOAW

    Mar 17, 2018, 19:16 #108070

    Now Nark. Interesting that you feel the need to belittle Badarse. I'll ask a quick question to yourself ..... How many names have you posted under over the last 2years on Online Gooner.?????. I'm sure you'll try to spin this, and, as it's a question you will be uneasy over. But it's a general question as I am interested in your response.

  61. markymark

    Mar 17, 2018, 17:52 #108069

    Still no denial then Badarse? Think it’s time you signed off permanently . Liar , Charlatan , Hypocrite

  62. Arseneknewbest

    Mar 17, 2018, 17:18 #108068

    Badarse - it gives me no pleasure whatsoever to see Babu expose you in this way. Oh well...... maybe quite a bit really. Just disappear now - your wife has warmed the cardboard box and put holes in the side of it with a pencil. A few quiet years in leslie judd's box, ahem, is a cure all for lying trolling ballbags such as yourself. Babu - A huge vote of thanks for enlightening us about this wretched misanthropic old fart. Please keep it coming as necessary.

  63. Badarse

    Mar 17, 2018, 17:10 #108067

    How amusing that some dimwits cannot tell the difference between jeff wright the chairman of the grey woolly sock and sandal society, with his hankie on his head, his little greying Hitler moustache, his string vest and baggy khaki shorts, and the illustrious Badarse. The Kid to westlower's Butch, the Hyde to westlower's Jekyll, the 83 years old hooligan, the thick cut marmalade man, the poker of the bald eggs, the frozen Jubbly laddie, the lover of McLintock, Bergkamp, PV4, Tone, Joe Baker, George Eastham, Charlie George and Big Raddy. jeff and his Lying Mail approach, Badarse with his 'Ragged Trousered Philanthropist's' incantations. Egg nogs!

  64. mbg

    Mar 17, 2018, 15:49 #108066

    Isn't it refreshing to see someone being honest, especially an AKB spud, admitting he has a low IQ, i wonder who spells the words for him and helps him type. We want wenger out.

  65. mbg

    Mar 17, 2018, 13:54 #108065

    So there we are folks see the power the fans have ? like I've always said (and will continue to do so)the power of protesting inside the ground ? storming the directors box, letting the pigs with their noses In the trough, (including the biggest sow of them all wenger) what the fans think and want, proof that it works (not that any is needed of course) and this is just after one high profile protest we have a West Ham director coming out and apologising unreservedly to it's fans for all their wrong doings, (well done those fans) WHY, first they didn't want the protests happening again and secondly and more importantly because they're very very very embarrassing to all, sponsors, etc, etc, beamed around the world,they cost cushy jobs, positions, hefty salaries, so they listen and do something about it. As for our bunch of to nice to protest inside the ground in case it upsets the pansie nice boy players cowardly fans (just another lame excuse) they'd just rather sit on their arse and let it happen and get worse and worse, f****g pathetic. I've said it before and i'll say it again protest inside the ground the more close up and personal the better is the only way whether some like it or not, and remember as we seen at west ham it doesn't take many. We want wenger out.

  66. markymark

    Mar 17, 2018, 13:26 #108064

    Badarse - I find it very odd you’re not denying any of this . It’s not just me who’s raised this. If somebody came on here and said that I’ve been on site so and so and I hadn’t I be making that very clear . You’ll note I’ve challenged your little servant ToOaW to tell me where I’ve lied . No response I see. From you , you can go on all you want about harrssment ( I don’t think you have a case by the way as you’ve willingly entered the forum and are being questioned / attacked under pseudonym ). You can call people cowards all you want but..... you’ve not said none of this is true . I suspect there is some substance to this story . Gaz appears to have been on that site and also spotted trailing marks. Babu i’d Drop the most aggressive language against Badarse. I personally feel he is a liar and charlatan like you and others do. If you go overboard it gives him cover to protest victimhood that I spot he’s doing at the moment.

  67. Alsace

    Mar 17, 2018, 12:58 #108063

    Blessed are the peacemakers for they are made by Samuel Colt and retail very reasonably. I have often thought about "trolling" that people should just put their social media away and ignore. This site would be very tedious if we just had AMG comment. The AKB's have some argument. Perhaps 1 - 3 per cent. They aren't unter mensch to be put aside out of displeasure at their views. What is unacceptable is abuse and the website admin should cut it out faster than one shoots a fascist through the throat. What we are seeing this morning is not debate, but deliberate misconduct. Wenger is the source of the poison, but that's not the point.

  68. Babu

    Mar 17, 2018, 12:36 #108062

    Well done Jeff, you complete mong. Still living off your wife's earnings as well, I see. Proper little scrounger, aren't you? But you carry on. I'm so happy that we have renewed acquaintances, and I look forward to chatting with you every day on here. We can chat about the old days, when you were singing " 2 World Wars and 1 World Cup" at the germans when you were on holiday in Turkey. Or remember when you were exposed for being a compete know-nothing dickhead, and you wriggled and wriggled trying to get out? You remember. surely? Oh, I see, you want to know which time in particular? Yes, there were many. So very, very many. But have no fear, I have set aside 20 mins. in the morning, 20 mins. at lunch, and possibly a little bit longer in the evening to go through the Steve Gleiber Forum and remind you of what a complete and utter loser you really are. So, we're now on Friday, February 22nd, 2008 11.58 pm. You, Cannon, said this..."Sol was definitely one of AW's great ,great signings,along with Gallas, who will also become a gunners legend, and you can quote me on this!" You are such a doughnut, Jefff. Now run along to the Windmill, you absolute scope.

  69. mbg

    Mar 17, 2018, 10:38 #108061

    John F, any odder than an old man bumble about in a sleeping bag ? I bet they know how to open a chemical suit, imagine the zip fiddler trying to open or close one of those. We want wenger out.

  70. Badarse

    Mar 17, 2018, 10:06 #108060

    Good morrow my little scrambled eggs. So Babu mirrors the cowardly git which is Corny, the sniper. Both of you gentlemen are treading a fine line in harassment and stalking so I would advise caution, beyond this the mentalities have to be questioned as to why any 'normal' individual would waste such a long time on nonsense. So Nark thinks he is bang on the money, even ropes in that other damaged individual AKB( and we all know what the B stands for confused) to applaud him and recognising a non fact...fake news, then both are undone. Just to say never been to Blackburn in my life, my passport doesn't cover that region. So an inept Nark-a little knowledge is a dangerous thing-reads, misconstrues, repeats an error, then embellishes. Dim? You decide. There are two main opponents of the clique on this site, myself and TOOAW. It is because of this we are hounded, vilified and insulted, with all showing a desperate desire for us to disappear. Yes you get back, you have earned that privilege. This is without realising that alone you are just a mutual admiration society of disparate non-entities spread around this fair land. As for an apology to Ron, what was that all about Nark? Are you really so dim, my centrist friend? I would send Ron a marmalade sandwich right now if I could. He is the brightest spark on this site and shepherds you all around with varying degrees of success, he the sheep dog, you lot the sheep. Bar, bar, bar of humbug.

  71. Babu

    Mar 17, 2018, 9:35 #108059

    Jeff, you freak! Are you awake yet? You Northern Monkey! Remember when you had your Silver BMW 3 Series stolen in Liverpool in '99? With the rare CD's in it? Where were you when Kennedy was shot? You were in Sydney, Australia, in the kitchen, having breakfast before you went to school. So, you grew up in Australia, eh? You have NO connection to The Arsenal, you are just a very sad old man with no friends. Your daughter lives in Oz, and she hates you. So you try and find some reason for living. You search for any interaction with other people, because where you live you have no friends anymore. You find the internet. The perfect place to find new "friends", to have some kind of contact with the real world, but you fail, because you are a 1st Class c***. Everyone hates you. But this IS what you want, isn't it? You want people to react to you, because that way you have a reason to wake up in the morning. So you come on here to try and liven the forum up. Well, well done mate. You are totally worthless. No-one will come to your Funeral, because you are quite literally universally despised. Everyone who has come into contact with you pities you at first, and then realises that you are an arsehole. Is this ringing any bells Cannon, you old soak? You meet someone... chat with him,...then suddenly, for no apparent reason, he punches you in the face? Is it all coming back to you now? The countless times that people have moved away from you when you try to start a conversation. The people who you recognise when you're out, but they don't seem to recognise you, and carry on as if they don't know you? They DO know you, and that's why they are ignoring you. You...MATE...are hardly worth the effort, BUT at the moment I have time on my hands and so it's wonderful to have the pleasure to converse with you again. What I can't understand is how you even manage to post on here. I thought that image verification code would be far too complex for your minuscule brain to decipher. Anyway, carry on Jeff. I know you're happy this morning because you have got some recognition on the Internet. Well done you! The fact that the "recognition" is that you are a tw@ is secondary though, isn't it? Isn't it? Oh Jeff, where did it all go wrong?

  72. Alsace

    Mar 17, 2018, 8:48 #108058

    This sort of a result fills me with black despair. I really dislike the team making an effort, and the old fool being bothered to make one, when there is a pot at stake and his job is threatened, respectively. The joy of clearing the lot out and filling our shirts with a proper team is much anticipated.

  73. Babu

    Mar 17, 2018, 8:19 #108057

    Bonjour, my first post on here for awhile ,however there is no apparent sign that anything has changed since I last posted weeks ago at AFC. With boring Arsene carrying on where he left off at the end of last seasons disastrous conclusion. Another ex-French league signing that has no experience of top class football to add to the other flops that grim Grimandi keeps sending to us . He can play in several different positions you know ... so it's like signing four players instead of one... plus Vermaelen is back and because he missed all of last season he's like a new signing anyway... so who needs Cahill or Samba... actually all this malarkey from Arsene ... or Arsan has Ivan calls him... is all rather tediously predictable... I still think that 'Arsan' is sweating along with the equally boring Ivan and his master the even more **** boring Silent one ... on our Champions League qualifier and nothing of any note will happen until that is done and dusted with the money in the bank so to speak... or not in it... Wenger obviously doesn't like spending money on players preferring to develop them.. not something that some of our better current stars like RVP are entirely happy about .. and considering that Wenger's parsimonious pusillanimous polices have resulted in producing zilch regarding silverware... it's not hard to fathom out why these stars are urging 'Arsan' to get out his cheque book and to sign some decent players to turn things around ... especially with our main rivals having significantly strengthened their already stronger squads. Of course 'Arsan' who manages the squad as though it's a youth team he's coaching has made things a bit tricky having given contract to so many duff players thsat he's filled our squad with all of them on crazy huge wages that are out of all proportion to their modest abilities ... so finding other clubs to take them off his hands is not easy... thus we hear the usual talking up regarding these flops again from our great leader ... with only the servile AKB believing that any of the nonsense that 'Arsan' spouts is actually true... Was it really only a lack of mental strength that again caused the usual collapse ... just 2 wins out of the last 15 games at the end of last season... ? If you believe this then you will believe anything . Wenger is playing with fire financially regarding Nasri ... not that I am a great fan of his anyway... but it all smacks of desperation on the part of 'Arsan' ... the Fabregas situation is a farce that will all end in tears for us... and not ones of joy either. I don't personally believe that Wenger has a clue what he's doing... he's on the back foot reacting to events ... rather than dictating them... we will have to see how things shape up in August ... and in the few months afterwards ... 'Arsan' could be an hero by next January ... or facing a firing squad ... the bookies are offering long odds on him being successful ... and short ones on him flopping again with odds of 11/8 that we finish outside the top 4 ... it seems to me that we need Chelsea or Liverpool to fail ... with the two Manc clubs looking set for at least a top 4 finish ... it was easier when we only had spuds and Villa to worry about! C' est la vie. Cheers.

  74. Babu

    Mar 17, 2018, 7:59 #108056

    Yes, it's sad that Jeff Wright exists. Cannon Balls was Anti-Wenger on the SG Forum, and I also had to read his drivel for years on there. The Forum there was different, and had 1 thread, so people discussed everything, but with a strong Arsenal theme. Cannon was...I thought...the sad, lonely, alcoholic dimwit Arsenal fan who needed friends on the "internet", as quite clearly he has no friends in real life. I felt sorry for him, and tried to fight his corner a few times, as his Anti-Arsene ramblings struck a cord with me, but sadly most of the content was, like on here, the retarded scribblings of a special needs kid with a thesaurus. So I will "troll" this site with "Cannonisms until the freak is banned, or stops posting. I will start with this one from Friday, July 15th, 2011. Coming shortly...........#316801 on the SG Forum

  75. Gaz

    Mar 17, 2018, 7:32 #108055

    TOOAW-I never called you a 'stupid idiot' I called you a '****ing idiot'. That said I'm more than happy to place you in both camps. As for Badarse I was a regular on the Steve Gleiber forum for many years and he's got all the hallmarks of 'Cannon Balls'. Only difference is on here he's pro Wenger and on there he was anti Wenger. A troll for sure.

  76. mbg

    Mar 17, 2018, 0:09 #108054

    As Kevin alluded to in his piece on the other thread, a poison or nerve agent should be easy enough to come by now and dropped onto his croissant, or at least something that would keep the weasel head bound and give him the severe trots for a couple of Month. We want wenger out we want wenger out.

  77. David1

    Mar 16, 2018, 22:55 #108053

    Badarse- if by lies you mean something that you clearly know is uncomfortably true but incompatible with your world, I think I know what you are talking about. But believing a lie? This from the apostle of the rambling old Frenchman - a sad victim of the Frog delusion. Lamentable.

  78. markymark

    Mar 16, 2018, 22:26 #108052

    ToOaW - what merchandise am I buying ? I don’t wear Arsenal shirts. I’ve not bought my son one yet either . We bought a friends son a top can’t remember what it was now after I successfully put him on the road of supporting Arsenal . Your obsession about my merchandise purchases seems strange . The protest was actually very safe , very well organised . I can’t appear on TV supporting causes so I dipped to the back to avoid camera exposure . Anyway I thought you were there taking the mickey out of us so you’d know it was a peaceful demo. Hang about your not fibbing are you? Are you admitting you weren’t there ? Please ToOaW not lies

  79. markymark

    Mar 16, 2018, 22:06 #108051

    ToOaW - call me confused , where’s the lies ? What have I lied about ? You are odd, I support Arsenal therefore if I want to go to a match I do so. Bet you’ve never been on a demo in your life , bet you don’t support Arsenal and I bet you, your’e a troll. You seem very upset about your baddie, looks like if Baddie goes you go. You’ve both been exposed . You can carry this on all night if you’d like but at the end of the day I support Arsenal and I’m happily waiting for Wengo to go. For you once Wengo goes you go. Baddie there’s no point you continuing posting, you don’t believe what you’re posting I’d pack it in.

  80. GoonerRon

    Mar 16, 2018, 22:03 #108050

    I must admit we qualified in far better fashion than I dared imagine after the draw. I’m not snobby about trophies and would love to win the EL - I wasn’t pining for the European Cup when we beat Parma in ‘94 and this season’s scenario is no different. I do feel conflicted about what winning it would do for Wenger’s future as ultimately I think we need change, but if he got us to 5 finals in 5 seasons with 4 trophies I can see why some might feel he deserves to see out his contract.

  81. TOOAW

    Mar 16, 2018, 21:14 #108049

    Well done Nark. Brush my comments under the carpet concerning your many posters. Clearly your way. Bonzo was your aggressive guise. Interesting that because you shy away from any front row demo or confrontation with AFC but happy to attend. Pump a pound or two into the club by means of merchandise and attend West Ham matches. Now forgive me if in wrong. Does that make you a confused, lying, hypocrite. YEP. So it does.

  82. markymark

    Mar 16, 2018, 20:54 #108048

    A Cornish / Babu - Sterling detective work gentleman. This points to Badarse have some sort of obsessive disorder. I’ve felt for a long while his arguments don’t hold together and the Egg rubbish postings were simply a means of trying to dominate postings without having to go into deep detail about Arsenal. From what I’ve seen he appears to say the odd thing about Joe Baker and is strangely silent about anything else . Tony Adams, Vieira , Henry even Brady , Rice , Nelson . Just complete silence Badarse - considering what is being discovered about you and perhaps more importantly the fact you may not actually believe the things you say . Is it not worth disappearing of the site permanently ? Your credibility is in pieces .

  83. A Cornish Gooner

    Mar 16, 2018, 20:36 #108047

    markymark. Badarse, aka Brian, aka Cannon Balls?(probably), aka Alex, aka TOOAW?(it wouldn’t surprise me, he has Badarse’s thumbprint on his forehead ), aka???. He lives in Ramsgate and he did attend the NHS protest. He bragged about being interviewed, if you remember. There was a photo of him on the local news web site. He was 70 or 71 on 7th March. He has lied to me on this site TOOAW. FACT. On the Steve Gleiber site Cannon Balls was described as ‘an eel speared by a pitchfork’, when he attempted to wriggle out of an argument, after refusing to admit that he had been wrong about something. In the short time I was looking I found three similar cases of him not admitting a mistake. After telling somebody to ***k off, he posted that he was going to be taking a break from posting. If you thought Badarse was bad you should take a look at Cannon Balls! TOOAW. On the subject of IQ, an egg can have one or two 'yolks'.

  84. markymark

    Mar 16, 2018, 19:42 #108046

    ToOaW - interesting isn’t that you mention multiple personas as you are infamous for doing so. Badarse has apparently deliberately gone onto sites to slate Wenger when the sites were mainly pro Wenger. Badarse is now going onto sites to praise Wenger when the sites are anti Wenger. He is therefore purely trolling. I have actually been very open about logging on ( when you could multiply loggon ) Mungo was as religious nut who had a little issue with Jameeson in that he thought Jameeson was going to Hell. An obvious retort to Jameeson who continually said he was a chosen one and used religious bigotry . Are you that worried about Leek The Squeak who used to go Mr Wenger eek eek ... he was of course a retort to your desperate creepy Wenger love notes ( you were Leek , BBA , ToOaW and probably others. Brian is caught with pants down . I’ve been saying he’s a liar , charlatan sand fraud for ages. Validation I feel. If you want accept that off me then perhaps somebody else will come along with the same view. Baddie - you called me a liar for 4 weeks straight even though I simply repeated basic what you had said. It appears virtually everything you have said is based on lies. It’s taken someone to unmask you but it’s hapoened. What does appear to be the case is that you are old and based in the north of England . It may even be that you have no love for Arsenal at all. I would also now question your attendance at the recent NHS rally you went on about . I let you off that one but AKB said straight out you lied. Perceptive in his part. I’d suggest you apologise to Ron who quite frankly you’ve abused his good nature . What is the point of posting when you don’t believe what you say. It is easy to see why you made such a song and dance of ToOaW, he does your strange ( it is very strange ) work for you.

  85. Badarse

    Mar 16, 2018, 19:19 #108045

    Thanks for the defence TOOAW. I shall let them stew a while, Irish stew that is, Irish stew in the name of the law.

  86. TOOAW

    Mar 16, 2018, 19:13 #108044

    Nark. It's very interesting that you keep plugging away at Badarse. Prior to the logging in which we know have, you posted at least under 4 posters guises. Wow. And you care to call Badarse a liar and hypocrite...... Gaz. Thanks for you comforting comments but banning someone for a low IQ is bizarre as MBG and AKB would be first in the queue. Onto the football, superb win yesterday when most on here were 100% sure that we were out when the draw came out. We all know the negative culprits. Well done Arsene. Credit where credit is due.

  87. John F

    Mar 16, 2018, 19:07 #108043

    Pt I do,didn't know him but certainly knew of him at away matches in the eighties.

  88. Exiled in Pt

    Mar 16, 2018, 17:09 #108042

    Wonder how many actually know what your on about Moscow ..eie Wonder what he would make of whats happened to our club... Owner board and Zippy out Please

  89. Moscowgooner

    Mar 16, 2018, 16:50 #108041

    All together now: 'we're on our way, we're on our way, we're going to Moscow to see the Bear....' Great draw - but then I am biased.

  90. markymark

    Mar 16, 2018, 16:41 #108040

    Badarse - no denial I see. A troll in a duffle coat ! A sad sight indeed. It does rather confirm my statement , liar , charlatan , hypocrite comments I feel .

  91. Badarse

    Mar 16, 2018, 15:59 #108039

    He was determined to save the OG, it was his raison d'etre, he loved dried fruit, even dried beetroot. Just then he saw AKB(and we all know what the B stands for discretion.) AKB was sharpening his hatchet when he heard a sound. He felt himself stiffen, then stopped as he remembered he'd got in trouble for this last year. He was paranoid now. He'd set the bar so high he knew even he would fail and would never be able to order a round. He had a friend called Mick but had taken to calling him Michael for fear of being a racist by his own standards. He would never have a paddy again, just lose his temper. In fact he was throwing a tantrum right now and frothing like mad, he also threw a quick glance at the nearby lamppost, yet threw it all he remained steadfast. He walked away chuckling that the B stood for happy-go-lucky.

  92. mbg

    Mar 16, 2018, 15:57 #108038

    Gaz, hear what your saying mate but I still wouldn't trust the old weasel, I wouldn't trust him to do it, no matter what he or the club/spin machine said, he'd probably think all this sudden support is/was for him, and not for change, and that fans have changed their minds and want him to stay on, especially with the AKB wengerites adding their voice, and especially if he were somehow to win it, or even get to the semis, and we'd be stuck with the weasel for another two or three seasons, and what could we do ? Say ? with the cry well you all have got behind him up to now why not continue on, they'd have made an even bigger laughing stock of the fans than they normally do. wenger out

  93. Exeter Ex

    Mar 16, 2018, 15:47 #108037

    I agree with others, it is a shame that the competition is just about whether it's justifiable for Wenger to stay on or not. I think the away leg in Moscow will be very difficult for more than footballing reasons, but I think Arsenal have enough at home to win. Atletico are way too good for AFC and everyone else in this comp though. The only thing that makes me think Badarse hasn't trolled on other sites is he doesn't know how to change websites from this one - unless that itself was a lie. He's definitely stated on more than one occasion he wasn't going to post here anymore however, so at the very least he's very weak-willed.

  94. Badarse

    Mar 16, 2018, 15:37 #108036

    He came down from his perch and pecked at the chickens nearby. 'You are all little layers!' bending to one in particular he screamed in it's face, 'You're a little layer!' he frothed a bit and began his very own soliloquy as the chickens continued to ignore him. 'You are misogymnasts, er you are racingists, homilies and layers. You are a Torey Canyon and no mistake, a charleytan, you are a cowsard and a prevender, but I am green. I have a green bike with a green bell, ding-a-ling, dontcha know? I am the green Glitchy Grynch, cluck, cluck. Answer me, look at me, don't ignore me, answer now, cluck, cluck.', he frothed. We leave him now, in his coop, with the feathers flying.

  95. Badarse

    Mar 16, 2018, 15:25 #108035

    David1 you are the one! Or is it Mary Magdelene? You have been brought up on lies so it probably is a little bit difficult to sort the wheat from the chaff. I enjoy these little tete a tetes, so just expect me to ghost in on the blind side occasionally and nod in at the far post. I'm str-e-t-c-hi--n-g this post so that it becomes the far post.

  96. A Cornish Gooner

    Mar 16, 2018, 15:06 #108034

    So it's true then (AKA)Badarse?

  97. mbg

    Mar 16, 2018, 15:04 #108033

    Up For Grabs Now, good post, and a comp TOF and his followers derided and treated with disdain (just like the FA Cup)thinking they had bigger fish to fry, and now could well, like the FA Cup save his skinny arse, Oh how the mighty have fallen. We want wenger out.

  98. Gaz

    Mar 16, 2018, 14:54 #108032

    Never wanted TOOAW banned because I don’t agree with him. I wanted him banned (and still do) because he’s a ****ing idiot.

  99. David1

    Mar 16, 2018, 14:50 #108031

    Badarse, you only really post here as a wind-up, so you have at least double standards. Also, you are not a man of your word. Some time ago you claimed that you would be making your last post; yet you still post. Not a man to be trusted.

  100. mbg

    Mar 16, 2018, 14:49 #108030

    All's well that ends well, i'm sure that will be the favourite phrase of the AKB wengerites for a while, until of course the inevitable happens. Go now wenger you parasite.

  101. Badarse

    Mar 16, 2018, 14:24 #108029

    Despite the attempts to wrest the crown by his 'fiend' AKB(and we all know what the K stands for-integrity), by whining repeatedly, 'Ooh please Editor ban TOOAW from the site as he doesn't agree with me and my gang.' Nark yet again proves why he is 'The Nark'. What an egg nog!

  102. markymark

    Mar 16, 2018, 14:14 #108028

    I’ve spotted Babu has posted on this thread however just want to say Babu’s post 113839 - see previous article , is about Mr Badarse . Obviously I have very little way of verifying the information but it suggests Baddie is a troll who has appeared under different guise on other sites.

  103. TonyEvans

    Mar 16, 2018, 13:51 #108027

    Agree on that Ron! There's not many pundits I do have much time for - if I do watch a game on tv (which is rarely now) I tend to mute them at half-time and get myself another beer, or pot of tea. If there was such a thing as selective muting most of them would get the same treatment from me on the radio!

  104. equalizer

    Mar 16, 2018, 13:50 #108026

    Crowds back and something of a buzz in the air to keep Wenger in the Emperors throne. It tells you everything you need to know about a section of Arsenal fans who are looked on and treated with nothing but contempt by the club and Wenger. Mugs. Must be the football fans equivalent of Stockholm Syndrome

  105. Yes its Ron

    Mar 16, 2018, 13:20 #108024

    i still see Keown now making sure he put some distance between him and Stuart Pearce one day v Forest. Keown the self styled bone hard man. Never struck on him really as a player. I often wonder what Adams and Dicko and Winterburn et al make of Keown now when they see him revelling in the myth about him self that hes created on the TV. Journeyman player, crap pundit in my view matey.

  106. TonyEvans

    Mar 16, 2018, 13:01 #108023

    Hi Ron, yes sickening isn't it, especially from a former Arsenal player you would think would have the club's best interests at heart. I'd love to see one or two former Arsenal greats back at the club one day but Keown (not really in the great bracket anyway I know) is not one of them! Big Tone would be top of the list - I know he hasn't exactly set the world on fire managerially, but as a motivational defensive coach under a decent manager at Arsenal he could really excel. DB10 would get my vote too. Shame Bouldy has disappeared quite so completely up Wenger's arse - he may have come good under less of a dictator.

  107. Gaz

    Mar 16, 2018, 13:00 #108022

    You're right though Tony that if he announced he was leaving in the summer everyone-and I include myself in this-would want him to win the competition and go out on a high. Right now I cant take any enjoyment out of the competition if-as I think will happen-its only being seen as a way of extending Wenger's stay at the Club.

  108. TonyEvans

    Mar 16, 2018, 12:42 #108021

    That's about the size of it, Gaz, it just kills any possible Europa success excitement stone dead. A very strong shepherds crook, Monty Python style, is going to be required to shift Wenger off the Arsenal stage!

  109. Yes its Ron

    Mar 16, 2018, 12:40 #108020

    Tony - Keown the chameleon. Shouting for AW to go 2 weeks ago. Now hes leading the charge seemingly to prop up the view that a great recovery is in the offing. Hes another fairly putrid pundit and who'll twist himself inside out not to be seen to be controversial, just in case a job comes up in football at some stage.

  110. John F

    Mar 16, 2018, 12:28 #108019

    It will be odd seeing the police escort dressed in chemical suits for the Moscow fans.Will they ban umbrellas?

  111. Up For Grabs Now

    Mar 16, 2018, 12:21 #108018

    CSKA Moscow it is, and with the current tensions between the two countries, not exactly a great draw was it. I only hope that any Arsenal fans thinking of going to the away leg, consider it extremely carefully, as Moscow right now I don’t think will be very safe place for any English people to visit! As for the world cup - ditto!

  112. Gaz

    Mar 16, 2018, 12:16 #108017

    Unfortunately Tony we all know that Wenger's only school of thought is win this and I can delay that awful retirement for another three years.

  113. Babu

    Mar 16, 2018, 12:10 #108016

    The Arsenal will play CSKA Moscow

  114. Bard

    Mar 16, 2018, 12:02 #108015

    Pleased for Danny I love his effort. You wonder with coaching on his finishing whether he could have become a better player. Difficult to know what the next call will be Kev. It would seem fairly pointless to continue with Wenger next season. Things are only going to get worse looking at the last few seasons. There is no argument for him staying on other than inertia or fear of the future. The dangers of keeping him on are that we slip even further behind the top teams. The Ropey cup is just a side show. A good showing would allow him walk away with his head held high but I suspect he actually cant leave for personal reasons and he will have to be pushed. If you dont have a life outside Arsenal how can you be expected to leave of your own accord.

  115. TonyEvans

    Mar 16, 2018, 11:36 #108013

    Queue the big finish to save Wenger's bacon yet again maybe? Keown was rambling on about a Europa win being worth another two or three years of Wenger; not for me, not even close. If only the club would come out now and say Wenger was stepping down after this season,so we could all get behind the team, and stop fretting over whether Wenger was staying on or leaving - as rather hopefully suggested by Charlie Nick.

  116. Yes its Ron

    Mar 16, 2018, 11:34 #108012

    good to win but lets not forget that had AC Milan have had a striker of note, they may well have scored 4 goals. Wellbecks pen - Theres an idea for VAR for us? Disgraceful. In that split second it took for him to shape his dive is showed what football has become.

  117. Up For Grabs Now

    Mar 16, 2018, 10:38 #108011

    Wow this is rarefied air, Arsenal getting beyond the last 16 stages in a European competition! Just remembered though, it’s the ‘B’ division Europa League and not the CL, so this is no big achievement. Let’s see how Wenger’s Arsenal get on with whoever they are paired against in the quarter finals, we will find out soon enough. A Madrid are odds on to win it, so at this stage I can’t see this competition saving Wenger’s bacon, although with his luck who knows!