Arsène’s Dream Ending Under Threat

Online Ed: Defensive calamity leaves Arsenal with uphill task in Madrid



Arsène’s Dream Ending Under Threat

Mr Gazidis... Have a word?


In a sense, yesterday evening’s Europa League semi-final first leg at home to Atletico Madrid summed up the later years of Arsène Wenger’s Arsenal. The inability to capitalise on a significant majority of the possession, the team’s chances undone by a basic lack of defensive organisation, often towards the end of matches that should have been locked down. It’s been going on for so long (Spurs at home 4-4 in October 2008 anyone?), that when Antoine Griezmann put the ball past a helpless Shkodran Mustafi late in the second half, the feeling of déjà vu was inescapable. The reality is not that ‘It was ever thus’, it just feels like it. There have certainly been other notable instances in Europe at home. Remember Anderlecht? Monaco? It’s a bit of an Achilles’ heel for a manager who prioritises attacking expression over defensive organisation. Winning teams manage to blend the two.

Still, in fairness to Arsenal, on the attacking front, to create so many opportunities, even against a ten man Atletico defence, was something that should enthuse them for the return leg. This tie is not dead yet by any means. Granted, if I were a betting man, I would back the Spanish team to be in the final, but the Gunners do have a chance. Where they disappointed was the finishing, although it has to be said that the Atleti keeper is rated as one of the world’s best for good reason. Jan Oblak's €100 million buyout clause almost certainly means he won’t be coming to Arsenal anytime soon, but the keeper is one of the positions you suspect the club is looking at in the next transfer window. A cheaper option less established will be more likely. Atleti had two chances of real merit in the whole game, one before the interval where the Ghanaian midfielder Thomas Partey waltzed through the Gunners backline with alarming ease to create a snapshot for Griezmann which Ospina saved well.

The visitors were rightly reduced to ten men early on after two cynical challenges from right back Vrasljko. Soon after, the referee’s decision not to card a less obvious Arsenal foul saw Diego Simeone dismissed from the Atletico technical area for his reaction. Simeone watched the rest of the game standing at the back of the directors’ box, in spite of an available seat in the visiting club’s two rows, and I’d have paid good money for a jobsworth Arsenal steward to request he took a seat. No-one dared. He was within a metre of Ivan Gazidis, tantalisingly close for a brief conversation along the lines of “How much do we need to pay you to come and sort out this mess?” but the time wasn’t the best, and I have no idea of Ivan Gazidis' ability in Spanish, so that’s one for the director of football. Please God let it be (it won’t happen, but it’s a nice idea). What struck me sitting opposite the dugouts was that, even at the back of the middle tier, pacing around and going through all his usual posturing and gesticulating, Simeone was a bigger visual presence than the old man in the Arsenal dugout sat next to Steve Bould, who spent most of the game sat on his bony backside.

On the field, Jack Wilshere seemed to be the hub of the best things coming from the team. Mesut Ozil’s contribution was negligible and the challenge for the next manager is to find a way of ensuring Arsenal have not just p***ed away north of £50 million on a player who chooses when he is going to influence matches. Atleti, even with 11 men, would have probably settled for 0-0, but a man down retreated even more. Arsenal, with territory and possession, laid siege to the opposition goal and in the second half, you could sense the deadlock had to be broken. Finally, it came with a good Wilshere cross headed in by Lacazette. There was a feeling in the crowd that one goal would not be enough, but sometimes European knockout ties can be very, very tight. Real Madrid in 2006? Villarreal a couple of months later? Going back to the pre-Arsene era, Torino in 1994. Granted, the idea of Arsenal not conceding a goal in two legs against anyone these days is a bit fanciful, so maybe the crowd had it right. Still, by the time the game ended, they’d have all settled for a 1-0.

What can be said about the defending for Atletico’s equaliser? Three men against one. Monreal too deep, playing the sole attacker onside. Koscielny in front of Griezmann. Mustafi, too far from Koscielny to cover his partner. It was Sunday morning stuff and those fans who retain this rather strange notion Arsene should not have been moved on years ago have a position they can defend as well as Arsene’s players can defend their goalkeeper. One long punt upfield. Koscielny unable to clear the ball, muscled off it by a smaller player (who needs Diego Costa?), Mustafi slipping up in the penalty area as he tried to cover the beaten Ospina. It was back to the old Keystone Cops school of defending. Arsene Wenger has changed the perception of the club in his 22 years, but you know what, some of the old school would just love to see a return to the days of Bertie Mee and George Graham when the team knew how to do the defensive basics. Frankly, there is a good argument to get shot of every single one of the back four if you are looking at basic defensive ability, but the reality is these players could be better if they were coached as a unit on the training ground. Having said that, the club probably need better, and I have little doubt there will be at least two new names rocking up before next season begins. Mustafi’s days are surely numbered and Koscielny’s permanently playing through injury and has always had the tendency to be a liability. Arsenal have not had a backline of serious repute since the stadium move. Hence, they have won three domestic cups in 13 seasons.

Atletico’s record at home is mean. They have not conceded a goal at the Wanda Metropolitano for 11 matches. That’s quite a run, but Arsenal have nothing to lose now. They know they can create opportunities against this team. Next week, they will have to take at least one, and probably more. If you want a prediction, I can see Diego Costa returning and bullying Arsenal’s centre backs. Maybe it’s worth throwing Rob Holding in there to provide the ex-Chelsea forward with some bad memories of last season’s FA Cup final. Whatever they do, Wenger needs a performance from his defence that he has never been willing to prepare them for. Before that – Manchester United at the weekend. It could be a bloodbath, because Wenger will play a mix and match team with a few of the kids. It doesn’t matter now. It will be humiliating but another 8-2 isn’t going to get the manager the sack (as it should have done seven years ago, but anyway). It will be a final victory for Jose Mourinho over his old adversary, but Wenger will just brush it off. His priority is Thursday.

Arsenal have a chance of making the final. The mood at the stadium was very flat at the conclusion of this game, the feeling the chance had been blown, that the Gunners had to win this match to have any chance of progress. But the one thing that recent weeks in Europe have taught us is that it is difficult to predict anything. Arsenal have pulled off surprise results in some big games over the last year and a bit. It’s one of the reasons Arsène Wenger is still in the job. The ultimate condemnation is knowing that the team can play to the level they did against Manchester City and Chelsea in last season’s FA Cup, against Milan in the San Siro a few weeks back and for the first 80 minutes against Atletico last night, but the fact they do it so rarely. It's in them but for whatever reason, the manager is unable to get them to produce it on a consistent basis. That is not the case with his opposite number.

On that note, Luis Enrique seems to be the preferred candidate to be Wenger’s successor, but wants £15 million a year (the club are prepared to pay £15 million for a manager and his assistant) and in addition is not enthused by the idea that he will only have £50 million to spend in the summer (presumably supplemented by anything the club can get for players they move on). May be true, may not be, but interesting speculation. For my own money, I am not convinced that Enrique is Pep Guardiola simply because he has won trophies with a team including Messi, Neymar, Suarez and Iniesta. He might be very good, but I need more convincing. Carlo Ancelotti is also considering the Italian national post – arguably an even bigger rebuild job that that Arsène is leaving behind as his legacy. The speculation continues. It won’t be Simeone, unfortunately. It needs his type of manager if the bulk of the current squad are to be retained (Antonio Conte is not an impossibility on that score), but who knows what we will get? My money’s still on Ancelotti, but I am positive any official news will be delayed until Arsène has left the building…

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  1. mbg

    Apr 29, 2018, 23:02 #109139

    tony porter, just keep on grasping at your comfy blanket mate, and all these little comparisons from by gone eras and you feel it in your water etc, some of us prefer recent history, facts, and what we see before our eyes.

  2. tony porter

    Apr 28, 2018, 17:24 #109104

    Keep the faith! 1978 and a very disappointing result in a home leg European semi-final, 1-1, when the opposition also had man sent off...Butt we beat Juventus 1-0 away, with a certain Paul Vaessen scoring. It can be done!

  3. GoonerRon

    Apr 28, 2018, 11:18 #109094

    @ mbg - try and declutter your mind of Wenger hatred for a second (a tall order I know) and feel free to pick apart my posts 114907 / 114915 and tell me why what I’ve said isn’t reasonable? And yes, it is called support. Here’s me thinking you’d be getting behind the team now your decade-long mission to see Wenger gone has been accomplished.

  4. mbg

    Apr 27, 2018, 23:49 #109088

    Reality Cech, yes I also see and think TOF has one more embarrassment in him before he pisses off, I really do, maybe even two.

  5. mbg

    Apr 27, 2018, 23:35 #109087

    Jumpers 114901, an excellent post, it never ceases to amaze me how fans can still be optimistic and believe and find any little bit of comfort in anything, (some will come out with this it's called support boll****s) even after all this time with all the examples, and proof and history to look back on, and completely ignoring the fact (conveniently or not, in most cases conveniently) they just can't get their head around it's wenger we're dealing with here, if there's one manager in the world who can/will balls it up it's him, and has done on numerous occasions, they just can't get their heads around that or just don't want to, they'll just never learn.

  6. GoonerRon

    Apr 27, 2018, 23:24 #109086

    @ Jumpers - yes I can. We did it in a one off game against a Chelsea team who had just a set a new record for wins in a PL season last May, with a right footed winger at LWB, a rookie at CB alongside the least match-sharp CB ever, so why not again?

  7. Rob1971

    Apr 27, 2018, 20:41 #109084

    Yikes, Wenger will rest players, our midfield is threadbare, could be 8-2 at OT

  8. Reality Cech

    Apr 27, 2018, 20:06 #109083

    Good write up Kev and some great posts re the 2nd leg. The worry for me is that at no time last night did Madrid need to really attack us, they didn’t need to win the game. I expect they will start the same at home as they still don’t need to actually beat us. If we do happen to score first, the tactics will change (not something we are used to seeing) and Griezmann, Costa & Torres would be let loose on the Chuckle Brothers at the back. If AM are forced to, I reckon they will smash us. Anyway, we’ve got to survive a mauling at Nited on Sunday before then. One last embarrassing thrashing for Wengo to stick in his scrapbook?

  9. Jumpers For Goalposts

    Apr 27, 2018, 19:37 #109082

    Christ guys - have the last 12 years taught you nothing?? "If our finishing had been better" It's always IF with Wenger's teams isn't it? We had 76% possession, 26 shots against 10 men but only 1 goal - where does IF come into that awful statistic?? And there was the obligatory defensive shambles. I organised and attended every WENGER OUT protest because I was sick to death of watching his teams collapse like a wet cardboard box and nothing will change until he departs. Can you really see a team containing Mustafi, Xhaka, Ramsey, Welbeck, Koscielny and the other powder puffs triumphing against one of the best organised teams in the world??

  10. GoonerRon

    Apr 27, 2018, 18:42 #109081

    @ Jumpers - oh the goal was a shocker and, like you say, symptomatic of our general lack of quality at the back over the years. I still just feel we can get st them and do something. I’d love it if @Paulward was right and we got a 1-0 over there, but I’m think more like a 2-2 perhaps.

  11. Paulward

    Apr 27, 2018, 18:28 #109080

    We are quick enough to call out the poor performances, of which there have been many,so a bit of credit is due for keeping one of the best half a dizen sides in Europe on the rack for an entire 90 minutes. Don’t buy that they are that wonderful at the back either, if our finishing was better we’d have won 3 or 4. Feel a one nil to the Arsenal coming on over there.

  12. Jumpers For Goalposts

    Apr 27, 2018, 18:12 #109079

    Ron - did you see Griezmann's goal? For me, that goal is a perfect summary of Arsenal under Wenger. Forward loses the ball through naivety; forward then sits on his arse appealing in vain for a free kick; long punt upfield catches our "defence" at 6's and 7's; left back plays lone forward onside; error prone centre-half makes a poor decision; another error prone centre-half falls flat on his arse and Griezmann scores. We've seen different versions of this hundreds of times under Wenger because he signs so many sub standard players and does not instill defensive discipline into his teams. I admire your optimism but Wenger hasn't won a European trophy in 35 years and he isn't about to start now - he just doesn't have what it takes.

  13. GoonerRon

    Apr 27, 2018, 17:47 #109078

    @ Jumpers - I personally feel relatively confident because all the bull**** that has surrounded Wenger earlier in the season has gone. There is a clear line of sight of what’s happening with him and the players recognise the magnitude of winning this competition - for Wenger, for next season, probably for their pay packets. More importantly, we don’t have a negative history of playing Atlético like we’ve had in more recent ties with Bayern and Barca, consequently all we have to go on is 10 minutes of 11v11 when we had them on the ropes. They are undoubtedly a quality, well balanced team but aren’t in the best form and I reckon our players won’t feel inferior to them like deep down they have in previous encounters with Bayern and Barca. They won’t dominate the ball and pass us to death so whilst we’ve got the ball we’ve got a chance. Don’t get me wrong, there’s every chance we will lose, but we don’t need to win to get through. On our day (and make no mistake, we need to be ‘on it’ to have a chance) we can take them, not a doubt in my mind.

  14. GoonerRon

    Apr 27, 2018, 17:34 #109077

    @ 1971 Gooner - I couldn’t agree more. I’m not getting bent out of shape over the supposed transfer budget because we don’t know what the real ceiling is for this squad if it is set up in a balanced team structure, more positional discipline and losing the apparent ‘comfort factor’. Man for man I genuinely don’t think we’re behind Chelsea, Liverpool or Spuds, it’s whether the new guy can extract the work ethic, instill the discipline and find a shape that suits.

  15. mbg

    Apr 27, 2018, 17:31 #109076

    John F, the chance of that happening with old past it manager and his philosophies was nil, they've/he's actually contributed to it. Yes maybe a bit over confident of them alright, but would you blame them, any team playing us at the minute, and for the last ten years would be.

  16. markymark

    Apr 27, 2018, 17:30 #109075

    My god the weird editor on this phone . How can gung ho turn into hung hi ?? Anyway hopefully you figured out what I was trying to say

  17. markymark

    Apr 27, 2018, 17:19 #109074

    Radfordkennedy - I was lucky enough to be positioned in line with the edge of the penalty box and high up so had a perfect view of their defence in the 2nd half. It was all that you say and more. Absolutely rock solid and with their hairy management committee sent to the stands it made no difference. I just cannot see the love in for Wenger over the last decade when a display of discipline like that is a master class. AC Milan were hardly wildly hung hi attacking during their time of supremacy . They played lovely football but had a level of professionalism that Wenger has failed to implentvsince the breakup of the 2004 side.

  18. Jumpers For Goalposts

    Apr 27, 2018, 16:51 #109072

    So far this season we have lost away at Stoke, Watford, Forest, Swansea, Brighton, Bournemouth, Newcastle, Liverpool, City, Spurs. --------- And people are talking as if we can go to Madrid and beat a team that has only lost a European knockout tie to Real Madrid in the last 4 years. I will never, ever understand the mindset of some Arsenal supporters. We have been crap in Europe since Inspector Clueless took over and that isn't about to change. We even managed to concede a home goal to a team that weren't trying to score FFS !!

  19. 1971 Gooner

    Apr 27, 2018, 16:50 #109071

    If we keep more or less the same defensive personnel next season (and a £50M transfer budget suggests wholesale changes are unlikely), the question of how these players perform next season is for me one of the most interesting of the post-Wenger new era.

  20. Radfordkennedy

    Apr 27, 2018, 16:38 #109070

    I have to take my hat off to AM's defence last night,what a performance,solid banks nice and tight,with the back 4 knowing when to move laterally,and the keeper wasn't bad either.can't see us beating them away to be honest and Abbot and Costello at the back will get torn to shreads

  21. markymark

    Apr 27, 2018, 16:17 #109069

    I spent most of the match wondering why Ospina felt it necessary to continually wander out of his area reaching at least midway in his own half on numerous occasions . He inviting being lobbed. No one is managing our risk in that defence. The Athletico defenders were masters in comparison

  22. John F

    Apr 27, 2018, 15:40 #109067

    Good report Kev.All Kos had to do was stay with him and apply some pressure,it appears he has learnt nothing since the Birmingham league cup final game.Some one should of emphasized to the team that 1-0 was a very good result in Europe and we just needed to defend it not push everyone forward in search of more.The only thing I can see working in Arsenals favour is AM being over confident as they celebrated like they were already through to the final .Mikki is a vital player for the return leg if he is fit.

  23. Bard

    Apr 27, 2018, 14:47 #109066

    Good review Kev. As we haven't won a single game away from home this year it's stretching it a bit to think we can go to AM and win but you never know. If we do we will need to score 3 goals as I cant see our hapless defence not letting in at least one goal. Last nights latest fiasco was a shocker. You see those sort of goals on a Sunday morning in the park.

  24. Ernie71

    Apr 27, 2018, 14:39 #109065

    Very optimistic view about the 2nd leg Kev.But you have to take into account our dismal away record this season. If we cant beat Stoke Swansea or Bournemouth away beating Atletico seems a massive step too far.It always happens in the knockout stage in Europe when we play the first half decent team. So it looks like another season of thursday night football.Will that put off the likes of Allegri Ancelotti and Enrique? At the end of the day Wenger's record in Europe over 20 years is abysmal.But the media(yes you John Cross) forget that

  25. mbg

    Apr 27, 2018, 14:33 #109064

    Such an important game for everybody(well you'd/we'd have thought so anyway but no same old same old frailties, we have seen yet again why he was sacked, he couldn't organise an orgy in a brothel (but I bet some of his nice boys could) let alone a defence if it was to save his job, blaming everybody else, remonstrating, complaining of the oppositions use of the long ball etc, we'd have had a far far better chance if they'd given the old fraud his marching orders immediately and left Bould in charge for the remaining games, and it's still not to late, now that would be showing real ambition.

  26. Exiled in Pt

    Apr 27, 2018, 14:19 #109063

    Ron , your right it is not over , i just do not see us scoring more than one and the more we push on the more likely they will score on the break. Would also put money on Costa playing getting one of our players sent off and scoring just look at how we have dealt with him in the past !! At least we go there with a chance instead of the game being out of sight already ...

  27. GoonerRon

    Apr 27, 2018, 14:05 #109062

    @ Exeter - I wouldn’t say it’s dreamily optimistic to think the tie is still a wide open. Am I confident we’ll keep a clean sheet? Absolutely not. Am I confident we can do them some damage? Absolutely. We score first means they have push hard to score, they score first and it doesn’t really change our course as we have to score at least one to have a chance of progressing. There’s no way this is as a foregone conclusion as some are making out.

  28. David1

    Apr 27, 2018, 13:49 #109061

    With you on that MoscowG - feels a bit like the Chelsea CL 1/4 final in 2004 when we got 1-1 at SB, but lost 1-2 at home in the second leg. Arsenal are now in Chelsea's position.

  29. Moscowgooner

    Apr 27, 2018, 13:15 #109060

    Seven Kings - If Simeone does go for 0-0 there is a true parallel with 1980 because that's what Juve tried to do and slipped up. We can still do it - and I think we will. 1-1 - win on penalties.

  30. peter wain

    Apr 27, 2018, 13:07 #109059

    same old same old Wenger just does not learn. A game we could have won by the 3 goals we need in Spain next week we draw and now have no chance of going further. It was as obvious as night following day that they would score. All of our defenders are just not good enough although with a transfer pot of £50 mill you know they we will not many upgrades. Better increase the pot Stan or face the consequences 6th this year 14th next.

  31. MAF

    Apr 27, 2018, 12:58 #109058

    Simeone is well-known for acting up to motivate his Team even further; last night was an act + it worked. Arsenal do still continue to be a very naive, disjointed Team who can however flow in home matches when there are bigger spaces. defensively we are a borderline Relegation outfit

  32. TonyEvans

    Apr 27, 2018, 12:46 #109057

    It's set up nicely for a 'Paul Vaesson' repeat, but I am not holding my breath. As for the match last night - well apparently Alex Ferguson is a big Laurel and Hardy fan, and I think we can guess which silent film stars Wenger must be a fan of!

  33. Exiled in Pt

    Apr 27, 2018, 12:21 #109056

    Redshirts, spot on mate , keystone kos or is it Stepanovs in disguise !!!!!!

  34. Redshirtwhitesleeves

    Apr 27, 2018, 12:10 #109055

    Arsenal of the last decade summed up in one match, and shows why we have been calling for change for so long. Koscielny has for some reason been lauded as a great defender by many. I've never seen it myself, always very close to his next disaster. A typical Wenger goal to concede...undone by one long ball over the top and then a series of calamitous errors which would be hilarious if it was another team. That's what you get when the manager doesn't do defence. And the constant dithering on the edge of the box when we have a chance to whip an early cross in. Backwards, sideways...10 extra needless passes and the chance has gone. A more clinical team would have scored 4 last night. So another big game, another opportunity... and Wenger shoots himself in the foot again...true to form till the bitter end

  35. Exiled in Pt

    Apr 27, 2018, 12:09 #109054

    Can see us scoring in Madrid but there is no doubt we will concede. 50 million will not be enough for any man that takes over , if you believe the papers Enrique wants 200. We need a keeper a minimum of 3 defenders and a ball winning midfield player ........If only 50 in the kitty then i think we can all see the owner and boards ambition is not about competing but just trying to maintain le frauds 4th place trophy...

  36. Exeter Ex

    Apr 27, 2018, 11:52 #109053

    That's dreamily optimistic, GR. One word: defence. The impression you get from watching late Wenger teams is that only attacking approach play is worked on at the training ground. Not finishing and obviously not anything defensive. A reason for optimism is even with the exact same squad, any other manager who did some work on these other areas of football would result in some improvement.

  37. Seven Kings Gooner 1

    Apr 27, 2018, 11:26 #109051

    Spot on as usual Kev, I would love Simeone and his "cuddly" sidekick to spend the next 4 - 5 years at Arsenal. If anyone ever wondered why he is called "Keystone Kos" last night reminded them. I could n't understand why we had 3 marking 1 player (how ever good the one is) that in theory gave a man advantage to AM. Kos just panics, he always has done, Tony Adams or Sol Campbell would just leaned into Griezmann and seen him off to the corner flag, there was no danger. The shame was Arsenal had done OK, all be it against 10 men however I do believe the tie is over. Simeone will not take any risks and will be happy with a 0 - 0 in the return leg - winning is not the priority getting to final is and a scoreless result will do Simeone and his minder just fine.

  38. GoonerRon

    Apr 27, 2018, 11:09 #109050

    A really fair assessment. The concession of the goal was REALLY frustrating but I find myself taking more positives from the night than negatives. Whilst their home record is good we had them on the ropes 11v11 so there’s absolutely no reason to go there with an inferiority complex. The tie is still wide open.