No Bang As Arsène Exits Europe With A Whimper

Online Ed: Impotent Arsenal’s route to Champions League halted by Atletico in Madrid



No Bang As Arsène Exits Europe With A Whimper


So the fairytale ending was not to be. Arsène will bow out at Huddersfield rather than Lyon and he will not leave the next manager with Champions League qualification and its attendant income to utilise on a squad that is badly in need of investment.

At the end of the day, Arsenal were eliminated because they gave away two cheap goals due to indisciplined defending. Some put it down to lack of concentration, but it happens too often to be just that. These players have not been drilled to be in position the way that the backline Arsene inherited were.

With Atletico’s mean record at home this season (with just a handful of goals conceded) it was always going to be an uphill task. And in the end, the goal that they did score last night wasn’t even necessary. 0-0 would have sent them through. It was Griezmann’s late goal at the Emirates that decided this tie.

Arsenal had territory and possession, but were not of the quality required in the final third. Diego Godin was predictably immense and his team-mates organized and professional. And when required cynical. It isn’t always pretty but every other year since 2010 they’ve reached a European final, whilst frequently losing their best players to more-moneyed clubs. That isn’t down to luck.

The visitors looked good at times in the first half, but the chance never came, Lacazette and Monreal both guilty of failing to control the ball when in great positions to score. In injury time before the interval, they were punished, Hector Bellerin caught too far upfield giving Diego Costa too much of a head start as Atletico caught the defence out after a punt upfield from keeper Oblak.

By that time, Laurent Koscielny had been stretchered off with what was assumed to be a ruptured Achilles. When he was banging his fist on the floor his frustration was double – no more football for Arsenal this season, but for the player, much worse. Russia 2018 would have been his final World Cup with France. He knew he had no chance of making it. The player has been carrying an Achilles injury for longer than I care to remember, patched up and played no more than once a week. In the end, his body gave out. As sad an ending as Arsene’s final season has been. Calum Chambers replaced him and performed well enough to make you think there could be a future for him under the next manager.

The second half felt a bit more open, but ultimately, Arsenal finished the game with one shot on target. They had far more chances in the first leg, but only needed to score once in Madrid. They found a way to get behind the Atletico defence, but the quality of their crossing was poor. Martin Keown took Mesut Ozil to task after the game, and didn't mince his words. Certainly Ozil didn’t make much impact in this match, one in which it needed someone to unpick the lock of Diego Simeone’s tight defence. Wilshere was replaced by Mkhitaryan in the second half, but there was an argument to take the number 11 off instead. Presumably the manager thought there would be a moment of magic. If so, it never came.

The performance showed how much work there is to do for the next manager. Arsene always wanted to leave Arsenal in good shape when he departed and unfortunately that isn’t going to happen. Sadly, this isn’t a major surprise. The decline in recent seasons has been marked, as evidenced by the number of defeats growing with each passing campaign.

It’s interesting that Sven Mislintat has identified Jurgen Klopp’s number 2 Zeljko Buvac as the best option to take over from Wenger. He is a far more hands on coach who works to organise players on the training pitch. The latest news is that he is being interviewed for the Eintracht Frankfurt job. He seems an unlikely choice for the Arsenal post, but then, who’d heard of Arsène Wenger before he rocked up 22 years ago?

Diego Simeone would be a more popular option. As Roy Keane said in the ITV highlights programme, “Imagine if he was manager at Arsenal. They wouldn’t be giving away goals like they did tonight.” Not going to happen though. When Simeone finally does leave Madrid his likely destination is Italy, probably one of his two former clubs there, Lazio or Inter. Shame as his passion would surely invigorate a comatose Emirates crowd.

So we wait to see who will be named as the man to replace the current incumbent. Arsenal came close to glory in Arsene’s final season, but they were not clinical enough in attack, and sloppy in defence. They could get away with it against the lesser teams in the Europa League, but eventually pedigree told. Atletico have pedigree in Europe. Arsene’s last UEFA semi-final was in 2009 against Manchester United. That one didn’t go too well either. I recall there were defensive calamities back then too.

We now say farewell to a man who the game has passed by, and I have no doubt that although the mood on Sunday will now be a bit more circumspect, the fans will pay tribute once the match against Burnley is over. If the players can manage to stick to the script they will win to ensure they avoid the ignominy of finishing below Burnley. Then, Arsene’s lap of honour will feel a lot easier for everyone.

And for many there will be a sense of relief. Arsenal have been shooting themselves in the foot for many years now thanks to their gung ho approach and lack of defensive organization. At least with someone else preparing the team, there is a chance of seeing something different. At the beginning of Arsène’s 22 years, his defensive roster included Tony Adams, Steve Bould, Martin Keown, Lee Dixon and Nigel Winterburn. They benefitted from his fitness regime, but they didn’t need teaching how to defend. And in the end, it was his defence that did for Arsène, in this tie and for recent seasons.

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  1. markymark

    May 05, 2018, 7:30 #109315

    #Merci Arsene ???? How about #ferme la porte sur ton chemin Arsène Not so snappy I guess?

  2. mbg

    May 05, 2018, 2:10 #109314

    John F, thanks for the heads up, I know what they could and should be used for, I was actually offered a ticket for Sunday by a few mates who are going over for the game, I was very tempted for the first time in years I have to admit, just to boo him one last time and make sure he was going, and went, if nothing else, I know what i'd have done with the T-shirt, they're taking a big chance there as they have a lot of uses and I wouldn't be surprised if one or two of the lads I know who will be there put them to a couple of them.

  3. mbg

    May 05, 2018, 1:38 #109313

    For those that haven't already done so i strongly recommend you go and read the post from MAF, 115100 on the other thread, post of the week, certainly worth reposting Sunday morning or evening. Just go now wenger.

  4. mbg

    May 04, 2018, 22:47 #109312

    Did TOF even recognise the away fans were there last night as he slithered of down the tunnel without even as much as a glance back ? He didn't in the camera footage I seen anyway, you'd bet if we'd have went through the weasel would have stayed out and taken applause and gratitude smirking and grinning as if it was all down to him.

  5. Paulward

    May 04, 2018, 19:21 #109311

    A sad ending indeed, and we looked the team that Wenger will leave his successor, 6th best in England and probably about the 20th best in European terms. A good manager, but no more than that , Au revoir mon Ami.

  6. CORNISH GOONER

    May 04, 2018, 19:19 #109310

    MSM reporting today that we have signed a 21 year old Turkish defender from the German league. I cannot believe this is anything other than part of a "cunning plan". So things are happening. I think that the new triumvirate do have a plan & it either means bringing a young but rated "coach" but with a limited brief & experience or a manager, hopefully young, of real proven quality. Bloody sure they have settled on someone &, after our meek exit from the EL, there is now no reason not to make an announcement on Monday - after all there are season tickets to sell.

  7. Bard

    May 04, 2018, 19:15 #109309

    This Wenger leaving celebration is both totally appropriate and at the same time odd. We should have been doing this a decade ago when he was 'the man'. Its 10 years too late. Now he is a shadow of the man who brought us glory. His managerial record over the last 10 years has been poor. Here we are in a dog fight for 6/7th and we are supposed to be celebrating his sacrifice and success. For me its a proper mind f***

  8. John F

    May 04, 2018, 18:45 #109308

    Mgb what ever you do do not watch the telly on Sunday as Arsenal are putting Merci Wenger t-shirts on the seats for fans to wear.You might explode,what would make laugh if someone was brave enough to bring a Wenger out banner.

  9. Goonhogday

    May 04, 2018, 18:40 #109307

    Yes, sums up the last decade perfectly Kevin. I blame Kroenke for where we are now too, not just Wenger. Kroenke let his heart rule over his head with the last two contract extensions. In 2014 he should’ve either appointed a successor or stripped Wenger of a lot of his control and started the succession plan then.

  10. mbg

    May 04, 2018, 17:56 #109306

    He bows out with a whimper legacy ruined leaving A squad, a team, a club in a worse position than he found it, a perfect and fitting tribute indeed, and some wanted and said we should show respect and give him a good send off ?and others thought he and his second rate nice boys deserved this trophy. You couldn't make it up.

  11. markymark

    May 04, 2018, 17:56 #109305

    Walter 03/05/2018 at 10:22 pm That was not a very good performance from the Arsenal. The ref was bad. And Athletico will never be a team I want to watch, thought they were very annoying. And no I don’t think that should be a part of football. Simeone can stay there. Posted by crazy Walter on Untold . I’m surprised he’s even admitted we didn’t play very well. A guy called Zam is having fun ripping their referee conspiracies apart

  12. mbg

    May 04, 2018, 17:43 #109304

    What the fook was the weasel keeping the nice boys back in the dressing room for last night ? what the fook was he trying to prove ? talking shyte and filling their head full of bullshyte about how good they are and done everybody proud and crap like that no doubt, they should have sleeked off on to the bus and away with their tails between their legs and him leading the way, the way they deserved, out of sigh tout of mind.

  13. markymark

    May 04, 2018, 16:44 #109303

    Some points to ponder. Players such as Chambers , Holding will be elite players for their age . Arsenal don’t do lower draw . Prior to this believe it or not Senderos was rated as best in Europe for his age. I understand that Xhaka was bought to distribute the ball as an attacking midfielder leaving Coquelin to cover defensively ( he again was getting best stats ) that’s why apparently Kante was overlooked. The planning is fine in a way. It’s from then on when they entered the strange laisez faire lazy arsed world of Wengo who failed to tie people down , sold players against the plan and has absolutely no interest in developing their specialised area such as defence . Basically Wenger developed incompetency .One or two suggest he lost the plot around the time of his Rapper mistress and divorce. Whatever the reason a grounded Manager who can create a strong structure should thrive with our younger players . Players such as Ozil, Xhaka , Mustafi should be dispensed with and sadly maybe Lacazette.

  14. Yes its Ron

    May 04, 2018, 16:36 #109302

    Right with you Bard. As you say, the door to opportunity to change has been booted off its hinges at least. Its still sad he left it so long i think. He looked pretty devastated in his interview didnt he. Tragedy i think. I dont like seeing people broken by disappointment at all. Arsenes judgement as to his ending was bad, but i wouldn't ever doubt he thought he was doing what was best right up to the last. I hope he does write a book and make some revelations about them upstairs. Its a bit Busby like how its ended. Great as he had been, Utd were pretty shambolic by the time he went. McGuinness took over as a young thrusting Coach, failed and Busby was called back for a while some 2 yrs after. I really do think our next Coach will struggle to make early impressions and it may be the once after who prospers. Its so often the way of these things.

  15. Bard

    May 04, 2018, 16:26 #109301

    Ron you may well be right. Im still really pleased Wenger has gone and Im not too concerned about the next bit. Yes it will take some time but at least we will have stopped the rot. Maybe the next manager wont be able to do much with this bunch but there is no doubt we wont be as disorganised tactically as we are now. and that for me will be a plus. With any new manager there will aways be a few ins and outs so lets enjoy the journey rather than the paralysis.

  16. Yes its Ron

    May 04, 2018, 16:02 #109300

    Hi Bard - i think yr over positive about that squad really. Theyve played to those habits for so long now youre not going to see a transformation to much of an extent. Theres talent there but its sporadic and transient.

  17. The Man From UNCLE

    May 04, 2018, 15:52 #109299

    Ok I called it wrong (0-1 with an 89th minute headed winner) but at least we can all now move on. AFC now are right back to where they were in 1986, with a more than decent squad but no direction. The new coach I don't care who it is as long as they can set a side up to first defend, and then with some kind of game plan with another in the pocket if things don't work. Dare I say it but another Don Howe type will do for starters.

  18. Bard

    May 04, 2018, 15:46 #109298

    I get where most of you are coming from guys and last night wasn't surprising in any way but I think there is a lot to look forward to. I dont think these players are as bad as they look. They just dont have a proper shape or clear structure. Its clear they aren't coached and their tactical understanding is limited. Most football today is quite tactical at the highest levels. AM were very disciplined In what they were doing and we weren't. At that level there is only going to be one winner. Once we get hold of a decent manager/coach I think you will see a very different team and if the likes of Ozil dont adapt then they will be sold. Its not all doom and gloom. Wenger is going and who would have thought he would have been sacked at the beginning of the season. Keep the faith.

  19. Redshirtwhitesleeves

    May 04, 2018, 15:12 #109297

    Another damning indictment of Wenger is the squad he is leaving his successor with. The lack of depth is scandalous. Over the 2 legs against Atletico he made just the one sub. Looking at the bench in both games you can see why. Ok I know Aubamayeng was ineligible but that doesn't hide the fact that he will walk out leaving the team in a far worse shape than when he joined 22 years ago. It might also explain the lack of a 'plan b'. He has brainwashed the whole team into pass, pass, pass trying to walk it in and score the prefect goal. Without Giroud we have no target for longer balls and crosses. The more I look at it the more I think this is going to be one hell of a job for the next manager to turn around

  20. peter wain

    May 04, 2018, 15:09 #109296

    he lack of any quality throughout the squad is very depressing. It is difficult to see us challenging at all for the next decade with the paltry sums the owener gives out. Our youth team just got trashed 7-1 by Chelski and none of those will get in the first team. As for Willock Nelson etc can any one see them as requlars 12 months from now. I have watched Arsenal since the fifties and I have never been so depressed by the lack of quality. Even when we lost a Peterborough in the cup to Dougan the team had some merit. If our home form goes next season so will our premiership.

  21. TonyEvans

    May 04, 2018, 14:46 #109295

    1971 Gooner - I think you're right, even from the radio commentary I could tell we were giving a fairly good account of ourselves. Bellerin though was singled out as appalling both defensively and offensively - if ever a player has regressed under Wenger (and there's been a few) he is the one. Even Ozil had come out of first gear it seemed, and actually made a few tackles, but provided little else to justify his ridiculous wage. For a Wenger led team they did seem to be at the races for a welcome change, but as usual were undone by being out muscled at the back, and by a poor first touch (and second and third) when presented with something like a goal scoring opportunity! Hope and pray the new guy focuses on the basics - let's see some proper Arsenal defending, and a focus on goals, rather than possession - which counts for sod all.

  22. mbg

    May 04, 2018, 14:17 #109294

    At least the positive brigade will take something out of it, like it wasn't the expected mauling, (or something stup yes they'll/they'd actually take that as a positive, even though Atletico had a couple of more gears left and did just what they had to do no more no less, and with a 70% fit Costa too, just go now wenger you old fraud and be fooking done with it.

  23. 1971 Gooner

    May 04, 2018, 14:08 #109293

    Perhaps I was watching through Aspalls-tinted glasses, but I thought this was one of our better away performances this season in terms of application; Bellerin and Ozil aside. Agree with the view that two wholly avoidable defensive cock-ups ultimately cost us the tie, but Lacazette had a great opportunity to pull the trigger and it jammed. How I wished we had Keown out of the BT box and on the pitch man-marking Costa.

  24. mbg

    May 04, 2018, 14:04 #109292

    Fairy tale ending ? that's one thing it wouldn't have been regardless, it was far far far to late for that. Yes a whimper is correct from a crying old whinging whimperer, and just the way he, and his little nice boy pansies deserve/deserved, how they'll have the gall to go on a lap of appreciation (it's f*****g certainly not a lap of honour) on Sunday god only knows.

  25. TonyEvans

    May 04, 2018, 13:33 #109291

    Ozil sums up this insipid bunch of overpaid under-achievers. Give me an Eddie Kelley, David Price or Ray Parlour any day of the week over that pampered poodle of a player. Whoever the new man in charge is - I'm not expecting instant success, I just want to see a proper Arsenal team again, and fancy dans like Ozil can go and do one!

  26. Exeter Ex

    May 04, 2018, 13:15 #109290

    markymark / stash - I agree that's the way to go but with Ozil now, you're talking about a near 30 year old who clearly thinks it's okay to take several matches off a month (albeit allowed to by the horribly indulgent Wenger) and only contributes when conditions are just so when he does play. Basically, a part time footballer on 10 full time footballer's wages. I fear AFC would have to give him away for free AND partly subsidise his wages to be rid now.

  27. TerryNeil´s RW Army

    May 04, 2018, 13:15 #109289

    Thank goodness the nightmare is now over. I'm looking forward to the new manager clearing out 90% of the muppets who were on the field last night. I would happily take 2 years of midtable mediocrity to remerge as a team like Atletico last night. Dream scenario - Burnley finish above us and we lose to Huddersfield on the last day to keep the Terriers up and Wenger has to slink off in shame. New manager - Dyche, Howe ? hopefully, then builds a team around new, young, hungry unknowns (preferably from our own academy).

  28. Yes its Ron

    May 04, 2018, 13:05 #109288

    I think it was a performance that 1. was totally controlled by the opponent and 2. Summed up Arsenes teams for the last decade in terms of its weakness, fear and lack of power and poise and 3. was a performance totally devoid of character and personality, very insipid and lastly but mainly 4. i found it very, very sad as a long time supporter of the club to see Arsenal Football Club and its team exiting a tournament in such a resigned and quite feeble manner. For all Arsenal are/are not and have been throughout my life, the one thing we never lost in the worst periods for the team since 1963 when i first saw a 'live' match away at Aston Villa was our willingness to fight and battle away in games. Unfortunately, for me anyway, we hear much of legacies in context of AW but in my view his main legacy is removing the Clubs heart and spirit. Hes not alone to blame by any means, the Board and the owning interests in the club have all contributed equally to the shallow, facade of a football Club that Arsenal are today. A new Coach needs to beware going there. He has an enormous task to undertake.

  29. markymark

    May 04, 2018, 12:59 #109287

    Stash / Exeter - my thoughts are that any potential new manage would be best to address Arsenal’s appetite for selling at a loss. Mustaphi , Xaka , Ozil , Lacazette could all be shifted for considerable sums but at a loss. Bellerin could still be sold at relative profit. A whole new competitive team could be built with these sales .

  30. cameron326

    May 04, 2018, 12:55 #109286

    A sad way for it all end. Ironically, Interestingly, I think that those most critical of Wenger this last decade are also the ones who most wanted him to avoid a final season like this one. We could see it all falling apart seasons on season and were willing him to get out while we we still in touching distance of our rivals. Yes, for the sake of the team, but also for him. Not only was he failing to replicate the glory years, but he was getting further and further away from with each passing season. Sadly, the strangely apathetic majority fan base never came close to pushing Kroenke's hand. Those calling for the quick end were perhaps doing a far greater kindness than those who willed him on and on and on, despite his countless and increasing number of blind spots.

  31. stash

    May 04, 2018, 12:50 #109285

    Entirely agree Exeter's comment it's going to be really tough for the next guy but my thought on the comment re Ozil and not being able to shift him is that since (nearly) everyone has a buy price, if their abilities are wanted by another team as a player (and one has to recognise that even Ozil with his entirely "wildly disproportionate wages" has his worth as a player) the obvious answer is (assuming MO will not now accept any reduction in wages) just reduce the sale price so the transfer fee reflects the wages.....effectively Manure reduced (wrote off) the (£26m?) fee they paid for HM by "giving him" to Arsenal and in return got Sanchez at a cost which was thereby no more than paying a sensible transfer fee and sensible wage. I accept that a player on large wages might create issues with other players already at a purchasing club but, for the selling club, sometimes it is better just to "get rid" and accept the cost of having made a bad (wages) deal. Ozil on £350k rather than £150K effectively costs £10m pa so just reduce his sale price to reflect that.....better someone "up top" at Arsenal recognises sooner rather than later that MO does not contribute enough often enough to justify retention at £350k /week and he should go rather than stay.

  32. TonyEvans

    May 04, 2018, 12:31 #109284

    Listened to the game on the radio which, in times gone by, usually reduced me to a nervous wreck, but felt nothing at all this time. As Gaz says I wanted us to win to help the next manager, but the thought of Wenger's smug face if he had lifted the EL made the defeat last night strangely painless. All I gleaned from the commentary was that the usual failings were all present and correct!

  33. peter wain

    May 04, 2018, 12:16 #109283

    same as ever Bellerin has no idea positional of a full back. Best we sell him as we have no money and get someone who can defend. I would not mind but Bellerin's crossing is pathetic so why he is up the pitch I do not understand. We definitely need two centre halfs not just one as well as 9 other players. A long spell in the wilderness me thinks.

  34. Exeter Ex

    May 04, 2018, 11:25 #109282

    Has to be said it's an appropriate way for Wenger's reign to effectively end, with all the familiar issues on show, and I mostly feel relief today that it's over bar some dead rubbers. There was the glory period but he's ended up doing an awful lot of damage and on the pitch the team is behind where it was in '96. It's going to be really tough for the next guy to get AFC competing again as he's inheriting players that haven't been properly coached for years and in a lot of cases can't be moved on due to their wildly disproportionate wages - Ozil being the standout example. So much work to do that will take years, however let's hope whoever it is, is a really hands on coach as that should lead to improvement even with exactly the same players.

  35. Alsace

    May 04, 2018, 11:05 #109281

    All fair comment on here this morning. Interestingly Liverpool's tie with Roma was decided by 7 goals to 6. Where was the defending? Why on earth would the Athletico manager bother to come to us? Once Roys of the Rovers Messi and the hairdresser retire that team will eat the Spanish league. We are precisely nowhere, but it will be fascinating to watch us get our self respect back, as well as some proper technique not only in defence but also in attack. Players who can't cross don't deserve to be on the wing, but to be fair they never had a clue who would be there to meet the ball. Here's to having a plan again. Here's to pride in our club again. Here's hopefully to love of our players again.

  36. Seven Kings Gooner 1

    May 04, 2018, 11:05 #109280

    You get the feeling that Simeone takes conceding goals very personal and his players show it too. I have always wanted Simeone at Arsenal but now I am not so sure, it would cost the club a fortune to replace all the players he would cull in the restructuring process. Hoped we would win but knew, like so many of us we were never in with a chance. Do hope the board make the right managerial choice because if they get it wrong and the new man freezes the decline will just continue.

  37. Redshirtwhitesleeves

    May 04, 2018, 10:59 #109279

    Another entirely predictable chapter in a catalogue of failure going back over 10 years. Thank god it is coming to an end, albeit years too late. If ever a team was built to let you down its this one. Not one of them worthy of mention alongside the greats of our history. A special mention for Ozil though- 350 grand a week, pick and choose which games he wants to play in, when he is actually on the pitch he puts f*** all effort in. An utter disgrace, he should feel ashamed picking his wages up, he hasn't earnt a single penny of it. Between him and Walcott for me as to who the biggest pussy ever to play for Arsenal is. I really hope we get rid of this prima donna now. Still at least we have something different to look forward to next season and let's hope whoever takes over reinstalls the real Arsenal values, a bit of the old never say die spirit and a few warriors in the team will go a long way to making a positive change

  38. MAF

    May 04, 2018, 10:52 #109278

    Conte and Dyche would put some work ethic back into Arsenal. wenger simply does not believe in Players bustng their balls physically, when even Pep does. take a closer look at the physiques of Stirling, De Bruner and the ex aston Villa left back. City are super fit. Liverpool are super fit, Milner/Ox have been taken to a new Level by Klopp. Wenger's lot are a bunch of power puffs, fall over and whine at every opportunity (monreal, xhaka, ozil, mustafi), its embarasing our weak and pathetic we are These days. i take leicester and huddlesfield to beat us and burnley to get a draw. Arsenal has been ''Arsened'' and now we are left with the legacy of that

  39. SilverGooner

    May 04, 2018, 10:50 #109277

    Quite simply, when we face quality opposition - like Atletico - we come up short. Well short. Simeone - like many other younger managers - is in a different class to Wenger. As Kevin says, the game has passed him by. Personally, I am sick and tired of all this Wenger sentiment and I can't wait to see him pack his bags after the Huddersfield game. Good riddance!

  40. Gaz

    May 04, 2018, 10:49 #109276

    Weird feeling last night. Wanted us to win the Europa League as it would obviously be of benefit to the Club next season but wasn't overly keen on spending another two weeks listening to tributes to the manager that in some cases are way over the top. Ultimately I guess I just feel relieved that his Arsenal career effectively ended last night and we as a Club can finally move on. It would be churlish of me though not to wish Wenger well despite how I've felt about him for the last 7/8 years. I'll never forget those first ten years and I'll always be thankful to him for them. There is though more a sense of sadness that he stayed on far too long and alongside his legacy of playing football the right way will be the fact he totally divided the supporters to a point where some rivalries amongst them will never heal. Anyway thank goodness we can all look forward to a new era safe in the knowledge if it doesn't work out with the next manager we'll get rid quickly, reappoint and go again.

  41. markymark

    May 04, 2018, 10:40 #109275

    A lot of sentiment that this really was the best result . Sad to see us lose. But the Rag Tag Wenger boy rabble will have no where to turn. A win would potentially have blurred matters for the new manager along with a desire for Poundland tikka takka. A complete break now from the past is needed

  42. Sarflunden

    May 04, 2018, 10:33 #109274

    No surprises. Didn't see any sign of us getting the away goal. Teams don't need to be aggressive against Arsenal. Just let us play pointless possession football, wait for us to lose the ball, exploit the denfensive errors. Job done. Can see us getting turned over by Burnley on Sunday and Wenger doing his lap around the pitch to the supporters backs as they queue for the exits.

  43. RobG

    May 04, 2018, 10:21 #109273

    Hard to dispute. He leaves a squad far worse than he found it. Ozil is a fancy Dan who turns up when the weather is good and generally at home. Otherwise he does not remotely justify his salary. Comparisons with DB10 are an outrage ! The defence is hapless compared to the famous ones of old. There's promise up front. But little by way of team cohesion. Can't see Enrique coming with his demands. If Ancelotti gets the Italian job, that means Conte can't. I'd take Conte. In fact right now I'd happily take Sean Dyche. It won't be him but if it is Conte - that will do me.

  44. Jumpers For Goalposts

    May 04, 2018, 10:02 #109272

    Hated him as a player but Roy Keane summed up Wenger's final years brutally last night. "Arsenal lack quality all over the pitch. No Leaders. No heart. No fight". Absolutely spot on and all of these faults come directly from Wenger. How appropriate that his Arsenal career will end with matches against Burnley, Leicester and Huddersfield because that is the level that he has taken us to. I hope we never see him or hear his whining voice again!!