Arsenal’s modest contingent in Russia should benefit Unai Emery

Some surprise omissions will make pre-season more meaningful



Arsenal’s modest contingent in Russia should benefit Unai Emery

Just four of the many not going


One relatively unusual aspect about the imminent World Cup is that Arsenal will have a lesser number of players than has been normal at the tournament. Seven will be on duty in Russia, of which only three were nailed-on first team starters last season. This reflects two things – firstly that significant players represent countries that simply failed to reach the finals, such as Wales, Armenia and Gabon, and secondly that the poor form of the team has meant that eligible players have simply not justified selection – such as Hector Bellerin, Alex Lacazette and Jack Wilshere.

This will certainly benefit new head coach Unai Emery as it means he will have a decent pool of players to work with pre-season. However, here is a rundown of the players that will report back to the club late – having enjoyed the mandatory three and a half week holiday after their respective countries’ involvement in the tournament is terminated.

There is a lot of speculation that keeper David Ospina may not be at the club next season. One thing that is certain is that he will start for his native Colombia if fit, with the South American side placed in one of the easier groups. They will take on Poland, Senegal and Japan in Group H, and will back themselves to make it into the round of 16.

When Arsenal signed French striker Alexandre Lacazette last summer, one would have imagined he would be making the trip to Russia. But France have such an incredible attacking lineup at the moment that the forwards’ places have been filled by Ousmane Dembele (Barcelona), Nabil Fekir (Lyon), Olivier Giroud (Chelsea), Antoine Griezmann (Atletico Madrid), Thomas Lemar (Monaco), Kylian Mbappe (Paris Saint-Germain) and Florian Thauvin (Marseille). Lacazette is on the standby list in case any of the above get injured in the warm up games.

It must be particularly satisfying for Olivier Giroud to make the squad after effectively being forced out of Arsenal to ensure game time after the arrival of Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang. Laurent Koscielny would have made the squad but for his injury during the Atletico Madrid semi-final second leg, but any advantage Arsenal might have gained by his non-selection will be lost by the reality he is unlikely to be fit again until 2019. France will be confident of progressing out of Group C, which features Australia, Peru and Denmark. They will be a major contender in Russia and are just behind equal favourites Brazil and Germany at 11/2.

Eyebrows were raised when Mesut Ozil declared he had a back problem after the second leg Europa League semi-final defeat at Atletico Madrid, especially when he tweeted that he would “need some time but I'm sure I'll fully recover in time for the World Cup.” Missing Arsenal’s final three Premier League matches led to suspicion that he was saving himself for Germany. Centre-back Shkodran Mustafi was part of the successful 2014 squad, although was used more at right back in Brazil, but he failed to make the cut this time. It remains to be seen how Emery utilises a defender that has not enjoyed the best of seasons as his club conceded a large number of goals. The Germans are always impressive when they compete at the World Cup and, with the side expected to get out of a group which contains Mexico, South Korea and Sweden, it’s easy to see why they are favourites here to win their fifth World Cup at 9/2.

The Spanish squad is something of a surprise in that Hector Bellerin has failed to make the cut and yet his full-back colleague Nacho Monreal has. Initially, the Champions League final injury to Real Madrid’s right back Dani Carvajal might have given hope that Bellerin might be called up as a replacement, but Carvajal seems likely to recover in time for the finals. Under manager Julen Lopetegui, Spain are currently the fourth favourite to win the cup, sitting behind France at 6/1. They will be up against Iran, Morocco, and European champions, Portugal.

If Gooners had been told there would only be one Arsenal player in Gareth Southgate’s squad, most would have believed it would be Jack Wilshere. But Danny Welbeck is the only Gunner to be called up, although he will find it hard to get much game time given the amount of competition for attacking places and manager Gareth Southgate increasingly preferring to use players like Dele Alli, Marcus Rashford and Raheem Sterling. It was believed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain’s season-ending injury should have made Wilshere’s selection even more nailed on, given the two can both play in a variety of midfield systems, but Southgate has elected to take a surprise selection in the form of Ruben Loftus-Cheek. The three Lions have always struggled in major tournaments, however, bookmaker William Hill seems to think they have a decent shot this year, and have them 16/1 to win their first cup since 1966. They will face off against Belgium, Tunisia and Panama in Group G.

Three players that should have no problem getting game time in Russia are Alex Iwobi for Nigeria, Mohamed Elneny with Egypt and Granit Xhaka for Switzerland. The trio are all key members of their respective squads and will most likely be starters for their nation’s first game.

The two Gunners most likely to return last before the season kicks off are Ozil and Monreal. If Spain and Germany both reach the semi-finals, neither player would report for duty until the midweek before the Premier League’s opening weekend. The other five Arsenal squad players involved may well be back in training a little earlier, although in the cases of Ospina and Wilshere, there is a chance they might be going to other clubs. Arsenal might also look to unload Shkodran Mustafi unless the head coach can see the possibility of improvement in a player who did pick up a World Cup winner’s medal in Brazil.

Whatever happens, one thing is certain. The World Cup will not be as disruptive to the pre-season as we saw during Arsène Wenger’s tenure.


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  1. CORNISH GOONER

    Jun 06, 2018, 20:21 #110374

    Much as I despise Kroenke as a person, I don't think the lack of spending to date is fair criticism of him. Maureen has spent loads for virtually a zero return & I really think is another who is now past his sell-by date. Probably a big sum will be needed to get a top Glove Butler - an absolute essential imo. However, the list of available, alleged "top talents" with the usual massive price tags gets longer by the day - half of whom most of us will never have heard of. To me the secret for future success will be making a few pragmatic signings - like Swiss Tony - & grabbing a few up & comings identified by the new recruiting team but who have got the right mental character to drive for success. If Dick's coaching, motivational & organisational skills are as good as we believe, & his track record so far backs this up, then we should be on the way back pretty quickly. Because of who we are & where we are, I am not so negative about attracting so-called big names. The thing is - do we really want some of them with all the attendant baggage?

  2. John F

    Jun 06, 2018, 18:50 #110373

    Except his name is spelt Adli

  3. John F

    Jun 06, 2018, 18:31 #110372

    Exiled I think you have got the wrong shop in mentioning Sainsbury s as Arsenal are very close to signing Aldi a very good 17year old from PSG and only have to pay 200,000 compensation.

  4. A Cornish Gooner

    Jun 06, 2018, 17:35 #110371

    Welcome back jj.

  5. Yes its Ron

    Jun 06, 2018, 17:31 #110370

    Re Ramsey comments - I think hes a good player. After 10 years its still be fully realised though. Needs to know his role. Has to cut out the silly back flicks though and outside of his foot passes. Better getting forward than sitting back and if hes given a licence to shoot rather than flick and faff about as hes been allowed to do for years, he still has the chance to be a bit Frank Lampardish for us. I dont think Aaron will ever be the player he would have been had he have not been Shawcrossed but i can see why any new Coach sees a player in him. Hes got a good engine (as Baddie alluded to the other day). He just needs to be harnessed and his abilities used for what they are rather than used in a way that Ramsey has been encouraged to use his skills. Hes a typical AW player really in many ways. Has skill, much of it wasted and never been disciplined enough to make the best of what he does have and given licence to do things that hes not really cut out to do. By far the best of that English/ Brit contingent that was supposed to be our backbone for years. Selling the Willy will help Ramsey as it ll show faith in him and Ramseys job wont ever be compromised in his own mind then as it has been for years while theyve tried to accommodate the Willy, who frankly in my view isnt and never has been worth the effort any more than the Wally ever was. Hes certainly one worth persevering with.

  6. mbg

    Jun 06, 2018, 17:28 #110369

    jjetplane, welcome back good to hear from you again.

  7. mbg

    Jun 06, 2018, 16:53 #110368

    Exeter, another good post, that's exactly it for me and i'm sure a lot of us, the unpredictability of it all now, no more speeritt and great menteel strength crap and knowing what was coming out of TOF's gob next, especially the excuses, we have something different to look forward to now, new regime, tactics, back room staff, ways, philosophies, players who'll care, and last but by no means least a proper manager, a little bit of excitement again, the whole fooking she bang, a complete breath of fresh air, exciting times. The wengerites, especially those that kept their messiah in the job for so long (and would still have him there) would rather have that predictability and still can't get their heads around that their well out of their little comfy zone now and probably fear it.

  8. jjetplane

    Jun 06, 2018, 16:15 #110367

    Could be something good and fateful with the appointment of Unai. Always stuck with me the comments made about him before the Europa final with Liverpool. He had Sevilla buzzing on the pitch and off it in the crowd. He knows how to get nasty with his players when he thinks they are drifting as witnessed when in the second half of that final Liverpool were taught a lesson. Apparently he is signing a wonderkid from PSG who at 17 is being raved about. Think he wants N' zonzi from Sevilla which sounds a better bet than Fellani though it requires a buy out. He seems to rate Ramsay very highly and in the past we have seen him play some great football and very impressive internationally. All looks pretty good and with the stripping out of the last regime which had lumbered into some form of football nihilism Unai looks like a guy who really gets coaching. Wenger was just plain abstract in his approach and lacking in any meaningful detail. Great to see if Emery can lift a crowd at that famous Holloway football & food outlet. Who knows - we may start really caring again. Only thing that upsets me now is Sane not going to the WC.

  9. Badarse

    Jun 06, 2018, 15:39 #110366

    What's in a number? Well they don't always count for something that's for sure. Still, Cech I think has been given the number one shirt for the coming season. That isn't an argument against a new man coming in but I think it unlikely as 'shirt sales' do count...it's not just the tobacco that counts, ah, Player's Navy Cut.

  10. Exiled in Pt

    Jun 06, 2018, 13:48 #110365

    Peter - the free signing played 32 games for Juventus this season just finished plus 6 for his country .Check out his stats mate he is there to add some experience and winning mentality to what we got. Lets see how the team performs first before we start judging . Read everyone's comments as a club at the moment we are not shopping in Harrods , we are in Sainsbury's .This owner was never going to start spending like City or Chelsea have done in previous years to please the fans , that is not what he is in it for . Except that mate and lets see what Dick can do on a budget.. It is not all doom and gloom ....

  11. peter wain

    Jun 06, 2018, 12:58 #110364

    So a free transfer to start Dick's reign. I cannot say I am impressed. How are we expecting to get back to the champions league when we give contracts to a 34 Juventus reserve? We should be buying top top quality not second rate rubbish. I presume the yank has got a cheque book ban on.

  12. Bard

    Jun 06, 2018, 12:55 #110363

    Agree guys. Would be good to spend some proper money on a top keeper. I imagine thats on the cards. Its only Wenger that thinks you dont need one. Maybe they are waiting to sell a couple of the drifters and finance it that way.

  13. Exiled in Pt

    Jun 06, 2018, 12:39 #110362

    Two more signings , with one being a keeper would be good enough for me , i genuinely believe that just his organisation and work ethic will make a big difference to this team . Another wise head in the center of defense and playing people in correct positions! When players suddenly find there is no guaranteed place each week if they are not performing it will make a big difference ...

  14. Yes its Ron

    Jun 06, 2018, 12:35 #110361

    RK - A punt on Schmeichel is what i d suggest. (Spelling!) OR dont laugh ... Ben Foster. Still very good.

  15. Radfordkennedy

    Jun 06, 2018, 12:25 #110360

    Bard...that post should be an official press release mate brilliant...I do hope a keeper is coming anytime soon.

  16. Bard

    Jun 06, 2018, 11:52 #110359

    RadfordK; I agree totally with that post. The playing side is built on quicksand. He needs some ballast and thats how I view these signings and potential signings. Yes he is a good coach but coaching takes time. He says he has already made an assessment of there playing side. You dont need to be genius to see whats wrong. I have said before if we trade the occasional brilliant performance for being tough to beat that will do me. I also agree with Ron it will take a couple of seasons to get us to a place where top signings want to join us. Who wants to sign up for a trip on the Titanic which is what we were before Wenger was sacked. All the gripping about these 2nd tier signings is delusional, Dick has taken over a sinking ship.

  17. Yes its Ron

    Jun 06, 2018, 10:28 #110358

    RK - Absolutely mate. I think we ll see a few more short term type buys. Its a good idea to do it i think as he ll want to change the soft centred, lethargic culture the clubs got accustomed to this last decade or so. Quality,journeyman types are often the ablest, quickest route to doing it i think. Arsenal arent ready for mega, shiny type players to come in yet and we re not going to pay for them anyway. Arsene needed a few good experienced journeymen types in his teams since the stadium move i think but declined to sign them when he had the chance. Had he have done, things might have been a bit different for him. He was too stuck in his ways of trying to recreate the teams of 2001-2004 on a restricted budget wasnt he..

  18. Exeter Ex

    Jun 06, 2018, 10:20 #110357

    The 'uncertainty' is part of the fun, isn't it, after years of being able to predict, in broad terms, how the season ahead will pan out. I just think you have to see this first signing in the context of giving a new manager time, and hope that it's part of an attempt to rebuild the culture into one where leadership is valued rather than 'collective expression'. The same signing under Wenger would be seen differently, as you know it would not lead to anything different. Bard has already made the point that if seasons pass and no progress is seen, then patience will run out with this manager / management team as well. Plus of course the owner is exposed now.

  19. Yes its Ron

    Jun 06, 2018, 10:16 #110356

    Morning Baddie - re yr post 116225. I can see where you are with that, but its more a case of most of us now having accepted the reality that that club is where it is and that the climb back(if its possible) can only start from a fairly low point, with (on the face of it) slightly less than inspirational signings of such players who can perhaps help us start to get the basics right again. We are non CL now, an owner whos said hes not going to spend much and a new Coach whos got to find his way. Emery has an almighty task i think. As you said in an earlier post, the eyes of the fan base are upon him. Hopefully he wont be hung for the sins of his predecessor. It ll take a couple of seasons i think just to shake off the cobwebs that have been choking the club, before we see tangible movement forward. Its the same when any club changes its head boy really. Emery at least is nt coming into a club thats totally broken as is normally the case with most managerial changes He has a decent starting point.

  20. Radfordkennedy

    Jun 06, 2018, 10:00 #110355

    Hello Ron...do you like me get the impression that some of these signings maybe people he can trust to do what he wants in the short term and maybe put an end to the square peg syndrome that our defence was subjected to

  21. Yes its Ron

    Jun 06, 2018, 9:36 #110354

    GR - Ha ha. Seems that way matey. Get a dressing on the wound and stay in recovery for a while. On the point i made about signing the new defender, i just think that Emery will have his honeymoon period and such signings will be seen as ok for a while. I feel that there are so many who are still basking in relief mode as a result of Arsenes departure and the expectation of change that brings, despite all of the uncertainty of what the net result of that change will be. Having said that, we have to accept that he does seem and feel like an Arsene type signing, hence my raising the question.

  22. markymark

    Jun 06, 2018, 7:44 #110353

    Baddie - A better example would be to take your grandchildren to a Premier League match under Emery . They can then make their own dreams . All you’re going to do, when you talk about your legends is show up what are now a group of portly men strolling around a pitch. Whether the Emery teams are any good let them get into it. Its no different from me seeing the very last of a stripped Bertie Merle team and then onwards with Terry O’Neil. The chances are your family are not going to grow up Trotskyist or Wengerist like you . ( Thank God ). I’d actually suggest if you can’t stop sniping maybe give the whole Arsenal thing a rest like Jamerson ( superfan did ) Either move on or better still move out.

  23. mbg

    Jun 06, 2018, 0:35 #110352

    Exeter Ex, 116231, just imagine if some had got their way and we'd have been landed with him for another season or two where we'd have ended up, God knows what our target and expectation would have been, Championship players would probably have sufficed, although some of the right ones wouldn't still go a miss now.

  24. GoonerRon

    Jun 05, 2018, 23:25 #110351

    @ Marky - all posts by someone with Ron in the name are erudite, well-reasoned and well made ;-)

  25. Exeter Ex

    Jun 05, 2018, 23:02 #110350

    Further, Badarse is insinuating that the ‘WOR’ (to use the term he still labours on with) were motivated by a personal dislike of Wenger, nothing to do with his performance. This is because the AKB (to use what should also be a redundant term by now in turn) view things through the prism of ‘Whatever Arsene does is good’, so they cannot comprehend critique of performance – therefore it can only be personal dislike. Let’s see if Badarse can continue the debate now with further responses of the type he gave above, or if he’ll now claim victimhood.

  26. markymark

    Jun 05, 2018, 22:50 #110349

    Gooner Ron - yes apologies peace and love etc. I thought the posting ironically was slightly more Gooner Ron than Yes it’s Ron !

  27. TOOAW

    Jun 05, 2018, 22:32 #110348

    Who’s this UNRAI fella narky boy. Sounds like a peacemaker for MbG’s lot.

  28. GoonerRon

    Jun 05, 2018, 22:31 #110347

    @ Ron - looks like I’ve taken a bullet from Marky there for you - you owe me one!

  29. Exeter Ex

    Jun 05, 2018, 22:30 #110346

    As Wenger’s budget increased his teams got worse. These are the facts of recent seasons. And yet his loyalists still try to slip in the idea that there were unrealistic expectations upon Wenger that no other AFC manager will have to face. They bought his spiel about a lack of patience. A new manager has to be given time. A manager who has been there 22 years whose teams are getting worse should not get more time. This is self-evident logic that shouldn’t even need outlining.

  30. markymark

    Jun 05, 2018, 22:07 #110345

    Baddie - Wengo had 12 frigging years to win a title with hand picked players he alone chose . The mental speerit was apparently unbelievable as they hunted like Wolves. Old Wengo had every major club with the exception of Spurs croak in 2015-16 and it still blew up in Wenger’s face. Please remember that Wenger’s owes Gibbs 3 further years of his career when he stopped Arsenal going 3-0 to Hull ( Wenger would have been buried ). Idiot or deluded . Just give it a rest with Unrai and Let him have at least a season without your vindictive little sniping. As we’ve said before you belong in the past , your last stand failed . You never even attend , guess when you do want to go you want to see guys from 2004. It sums you up you pal.

  31. mbg

    Jun 05, 2018, 21:18 #110344

    Paulward, your certainly no idiot mate unlike that other, well, err idiot, but like him you don't seem to get it either we have to rebuild first, sort wengers mess out (yes whether some like it or not it's a mess there's no quick fix )from the bottom up and we need the proper players to do that,(along with the backroom staff) not superstar premadonna nice boys just interested in themselves and their appearance and want to win things immediately (but will also give their best to do so) but proper players skilful, grafters, winners, with experience and know what it takes, and the Boss is certainly going the right way about it.

  32. mbg

    Jun 05, 2018, 20:52 #110343

    Just when you thought you heard it all along comes a racist, who insults, and threatens others with violence to tell us he's troubled by a girls Christian name and the name of a flower, hee hee.

  33. Exeter Ex

    Jun 05, 2018, 20:12 #110342

    Except in the last years no one realistic expected Wenger to deliver. And this was proven right by events of the last season. And the new man is expected to deliver better than Wenger. He has to rebuild first though. So the parameters in which you've attempted to frame the argument are completely wrong. You really, really don't get it.

  34. Paulward

    Jun 05, 2018, 20:02 #110341

    So a 34 year old free transfer , with big Marouanne and a 29 year old Greek centre half to follow . I sense that Kroenke is using Wengers departure and the goodwill it generates to take the piss a little bit. At this rate Unai will need to be a miracle worker to ever win the title . Yes , we are glad Wengers gone, but it’s about time Stan got his wallet out.

  35. Badarse

    Jun 05, 2018, 19:58 #110340

    Bard I think I do get it, but don't take kindly to being called an idiot, especially by a cynical clown. If before Arsene left he was expected to deliver with the squad we had then how come a 'better' manager isn't expected to deliver? Simple question and a simple conclusion. At an interview if the management said 'Our previous manager couldn't achieve the success we and the fans thought that the squad was capable of, do you believe that you can succeed where he failed?' I would expect a positive answer. I believe that the WOR have purposely lowered their sights in order to protect the new man's introduction. He would need no protection from people like myself and a certain type of Arsenal fan, so is it to preserve the status quo and defend the position? I think it is. If that question had been couched and the new prospective man answered like you and others in your gang do you think that he'd have been given the position? The answer as you clearly don't get it is, no!

  36. Bard

    Jun 05, 2018, 19:36 #110339

    Baddie; you still dont get it do you. The reason we are shopping in the 2nd or 3rd tier is because Wenger has overseen our decline from decent to bang average and spent a fortune doing it. While you and the other idiots kept going on about FA cups and praise be to the great Wenger others on here oddly enough noticed that the football were playing was crap, that the mental strength was non existent and the effort levels piss poor. We are buying players that reflect where we are which is a few points above Burnley. Im happy to give Dick a chance and trust that he knows what he is doing but if he is still buying these players in 4/5 years time I will be calling for his head.

  37. markymark

    Jun 05, 2018, 19:26 #110338

    Gooner Ron - not sure why you even bother posing the question . Arsene Wenger could have lock stick and barrel brought the Athleti back line . Give it 3-6 months you’d have seen the position play break up. The discipline would start to evaporate. The left back would suddenly be caught 60 metres from the attacking opposition causing a centre back to hack down the guy for an opposition penalty . All these things would have come to pass as Wenger’s coaching skills continued to diminish and he’d spout random nonsense like attack like a wolf pack. With properly drilled players the purchase is sound. Don’t forget that Senderos was considered the best defensive player for his age in Europe. Wenger’s expressive play was fine for good quality attacking players. It was catastrophic for defenders . I fully expect us to win 1-0 away in the North now under Unrai

  38. A Cornish Gooner

    Jun 05, 2018, 19:09 #110337

    RK. I’m afraid St Austell Brewery’s Cornish Cream stout is no longer being brewed. They introduced a new stout, Mena Dhu (Cornish for Black Hill) in 2015. 4.5%

  39. mbg

    Jun 05, 2018, 18:43 #110336

    Have you heard the latest ramblings from TOF before he disappeared again ? first of all he tells us he May decide his future in the next few weeks, just May ? no big rush then ? I wonder why (Still love Keeping us hanging on and guessing I see,(I bet the weasel had a smirk on his face as he said it) errr your not our manager anymore you twat, you were sacked, do you think we care ? or actually give a f**k ?

  40. Exeter Ex

    Jun 05, 2018, 18:32 #110335

    I love this argument that cos top 4 wasn't enough, now Wenger's taken us lower than that so that it's now a target for the new man, that's somehow a defence of Wenger. Badarse stop goading. Other people on here are trying to keep you on the football and you're trying to get it all going again. GoonerRon - to use your own words, with regards to MGB, you need to let it go.

  41. Radfordkennedy

    Jun 05, 2018, 18:31 #110334

    A Cornish Gooner..Ron..Badarse..great question Ron,AW would have been vilified for signing this guy im sure,because it would have been seen as a signing not worthy of our great title chasing team as we were promised every season,this very quickly became a top four team then a general embarrassment really,now we really know the level were at,he might just be one of a number to help get us back into the top four and attract better players in a couple of seasons....A Cornish tell me mate do they still sell that wonderful draught stout in Kernow i think called Cornish Cream,wonderful stuff not as heavy as Guinness but with all the flavour

  42. Goonhogday

    Jun 05, 2018, 18:31 #110333

    Liechtensteiner is a good signing. In the view that he’s a been there, done it character that won’t suffer fools. He won’t play regularly but will add badly needed experience to the squad. Besides, he’s on a free.

  43. Redshirtwhitesleeves

    Jun 05, 2018, 18:24 #110332

    One point on Fellaini lads, whether you are for or against him signing for us, one thing for certain is he will not get away with the blatant elbowing and constant fouling that is overlooked for man ure players once he has an Arsenal shirt on

  44. John F

    Jun 05, 2018, 18:08 #110331

    Maybe the split opinion on Fellaini is based on age as my son and his friends on Twitter are dead against the signing if it is true.He would be just the player Ozil needs.I am not that keen on signing a 34 year old but I wouldn't be surprised if he is there to help MN with Bellerin being sold to raise funds.

  45. A Cornish Gooner

    Jun 05, 2018, 17:52 #110330

    Ron. I think if AW had signed Lichtensteiniersteiner (thanks RK) a lot of us would have been a bit worried that within six months he would have had his ability/experience/confidence coached out of him, followed by a spell on loan and then a new improved contract. With the new regime, although it’s a slightly underwhelming purchase, I’m more confident he will benefit the squad, and if not, he will be quickly shipped out.

  46. Badarse

    Jun 05, 2018, 17:15 #110329

    Ron not for the first time do you add that sting in the tail. I often think in these terms in idle moments. Always a what if moment? Interesting that the sights have been lowered since Arsene left. A top four finish vilified, now a clamour for it. Top, top signings demanded, now an ageing full back on a free. Serious PL contention and actually seriously try to win the title, to a hope of a good run in a cup, the League Cup or the Europa Cup. A delight of the free flowing total football of the Invincibles to a dour wish to be 'more secure at the back'. All perfectly understandable but progress doesn't mean improvement; just the progression forward to some destination. Who's got the A-Z?

  47. Yes its Ron

    Jun 05, 2018, 16:57 #110328

    A defender who played many times for Juve. Good enough for me. Hes a squad man and i reckon he ll fulful a good role. Hopefully he doesnt have a broken back and that hes not related to Squilacci then lads!!! I do confess to wondering though what the response would have been to this signing had AW have signed the same player?

  48. Bard

    Jun 05, 2018, 16:48 #110327

    The new signing gives us a good idea of where Dick is going. He needs players who can carry out what he wants on the field, who have the tactical nous and attitude to take us forward. If it makes us a difficult side to beat I will be happy. I have detested our attitude to difficult games. The gutless thrashings have been a stain on the club.

  49. Radfordkennedy

    Jun 05, 2018, 16:29 #110326

    welcome to the Arsenal Stephan and good luck....I have to say fellas, his surname, i cant make up my mind if i've driven through it or i've drank a bottle of it.seriously i dont know anything about the guy,but his rep is hes a leader of men who works hard and expects the same from those around him..that'll do for me sunshine.

  50. Badarse

    Jun 05, 2018, 16:21 #110325

    So a new kid on the block in a needed position. Debuchy and Jenkinson came and went, this boy covers the position, yes? Always like the addition of an older head in the dressing room and training ground. Especially one with an impressive pedigree. Good luck Stephan, and welcome to the Arsenal.

  51. Exiled in Pt

    Jun 05, 2018, 16:07 #110324

    For a couple of hours there it was just football talk ........

  52. Badarse

    Jun 05, 2018, 15:18 #110323

    Gooner Ron it's a waste of time, buddy. I am more troubled by the 'Nancy boys' in the previous post and the deafening silence from the neo-liberal silly boys of the site with their selective attacks and comments. He is an eejit!

  53. GoonerRon

    Jun 05, 2018, 15:13 #110322

    @ mbg - YOU HAVE TO LET IT GO, HE’S NOT OUR MANAGER ANYMORE! 30 minutes after the club you apparently support announces a new signing you choose to post speculating in relation to the whereabouts of our ex-manager who you desperately wanted rid of.

  54. mbg

    Jun 05, 2018, 14:54 #110321

    Talking off TOF he seems to have done a disappearing act again (probably beamed himself up)after popping up show his interest in Real and tell us all he loved them when he was a little boy, now he's disappeared again when told /heard their interested but have other irons in the fire OUCH, wasn't he supposed to have his pick of any top/team in Europe ?

  55. Exiled in Pt

    Jun 05, 2018, 14:46 #110320

    First signing officially announced , lets hope his winning mentality and defensive abilities rub off on the rest .Interesting more games played in Italy since signing than any other defender. SKG you make a very good point Fellaini certainly would not be bossed by anyone in the PL.. Just think his best days are past him but he certainly would not be a backward step for the here and now.

  56. GoonerRon

    Jun 05, 2018, 14:35 #110319

    The club must have been reading this as they’ve just announced Lichtsteiner!

  57. mbg

    Jun 05, 2018, 14:10 #110318

    R/K, good post, yes that's where we are now and what we need, players who are going to get us out of the trouble and the mess we were left in, the time for the marquees was when we were finishing third, fourth and ready/needed to push on, (so we'll not need them for a long while yet) not second third raters and nancy boys, and/or also the time when we moved from Highbury to the Emirates when we should have been moving on, and promised just that too, instead of allowing an arrogant egoistic to indulge himself in his own pet project youth which failed miserably and continued to be obsessed by/with right up until the day he was sacked.

  58. Seven Kings Gooner 1

    Jun 05, 2018, 14:07 #110317

    We cannot attract the very top players so Fellaini would be a possible purchase. I have said previously that I like him, a real opposite to our midfield players over the last 10 years. If Arsenal find themselves a goal up and need to defend a few corners he is a better bet than what we currently have in the defensive midfield positions. (a real oxymoron that one) A bit like the 34 year old full back we are signing, rather than Emery spending days & weeks trying to get the defence to play a certain way, why not put someone in defence who can defend properly in the first place. When Wenger first came to Arsenal he played Remi Garde as a sweeper, so Adams & Bould could just give him the ball and he would link it all up with the midfield, it helped our back four get used to playing out of trouble, I see Emery's first purchases in much the same way. I no one thing with Fellaini, no one is going to frighten him and sometimes that kind of purchase can hugely benefit both club and player.

  59. TonyEvans

    Jun 05, 2018, 13:59 #110316

    Some good posts on Fellaini. Cornish, you could well be right as to whether it is a complete non starter, but if not I would take him straight away. As others have said let's get some much needed backbone in to the side and take it from there. OK Fellaini doesn't set the pulses racing but he is a fighter and is not afraid to get stuck in. Just the type of player we have been missing. A decent defender or two hopefully on the radar as well, which is music to my ears. With some proper coaching thrown in too who knows what may happen. We also have some half decent youngsters who, if they haven't lost too much confidence under you know who, may thrive - exciting times at last!

  60. Badarse

    Jun 05, 2018, 13:46 #110315

    Behind the scenes it was indeed going on. Jack was going on a no ciggy pre-season diet. Unai was going on 47. And the media machine at AFC was going on and on. The cleaners were going on strike but without a union were just replaced by going on 50 people. EU % continued going on down in the recruitment. What with going on and getting it on the boogie boys were dancing in the streets. What a season in store, open Mon-Sat 9-6pm, closed all day Sundays. Good old going on.

  61. Yes its Ron

    Jun 05, 2018, 13:41 #110314

    Hes the type who splits views isnt he, Fellaini. I can understand Baddies take on him and in better times, i d think we could do better but as i see it now we re trying to change a culture at Arsenal and he seems a short sharp shock in the right direction to me. Horses for short terms courses as it were? Its maybe press garbage though as has been suggested by Exiled whos perhaps right on the nail there. The thing is Arsenal arent in the best of markets for players right now. Whats the Club might have stood for yrs back no longer matters to players. Its the CL the Club needs before we can start to think such as Fellaini 'isnt good enough for Arsenal'. That's been idly trotted out so often on here down the years and in my view we ve missed so many players who 'arent good enough for Arsenal' who may well have changed the clubs direction of travel this last 14 years. Its no time now for this Coach to stand on ceremony in my view. Arsenal are in the 2nd Div of the PL.

  62. Exiled in Pt

    Jun 05, 2018, 13:23 #110313

    Hopefully it is all going on behind the scenes, as at the moment it is like the last how many transfer window. Led to believe early signings will happen .Linked with all sorts of players which seems more like the usual press garbage.Not sure Fellaini now is any better than Elneny to be honest but lets see what Dick thinks ........

  63. Radfordkennedy

    Jun 05, 2018, 13:18 #110312

    Bard...and there you have it mate perfectly put,the best of the rest,and if what we hear about Emery's coaching staff is true,especially the one who goes by the name of 'the beast'the holiday camp has closed and boot camp is open for business, and not a minute too soon....Baddie thank you.

  64. Goonhogday

    Jun 05, 2018, 13:13 #110311

    Anybody heard about any backroom staff appointments yet? I’ve not heard a thing.

  65. Badarse

    Jun 05, 2018, 13:06 #110310

    Hi Radfordkennedy it's good to have you around for a while, despite our obvious differing views I think you always raise the level of class when you post. It's very interesting for me as I have never taken to Fellaini, and would never suggest he comes to the Arsenal. However reading your post and Ron's has got me thinking. I am still in the 'no thank you' camp but your joint assessments of the player may be correct and possibly what we need. Speculation of him and his talents and how/if they fitted in is what makes footie fascinating to me. Never was very good at jigsaws but OK at cerebral puzzles; today being a footie manager as the clock ticks is cerebral in capital letters and I don't know capitals, except Edinburgh is the capital of Scotland.

  66. Bard

    Jun 05, 2018, 12:58 #110309

    Peter W; Yes mate agree but this is where we are at present. We are top of the middle table teams and we have to try and claw our way back. No really top player is going to be interested in signing for us until we get ourselves into contention for the top spots. Fellatio and Nzonzi are our level. I would guess that he rightly sees us as a team full of lightweight shirkers and wants to bring players in some steel.

  67. Radfordkennedy

    Jun 05, 2018, 12:47 #110308

    Badarse.....hello mate trust u are well,I don't really want to get involved too much our views differ wildly on such matiers and prefer to shake hands and share a cheeky bottle of rioja..all I will say is I signed a dotted line and was under no illusions.As for matters AFC.,he will be under pressure as you say Sky and the papers will see to that,but as Ron Bard SKG Tony Evans and a host of others have already mentioned some much needed backbone,a willingness to fight to show passion and not burst into tears when all is not going well is the first priority and I think the more sane balanced fans will understand that

  68. peter wain

    Jun 05, 2018, 12:47 #110307

    good to see the quality of the player we are targeting Fellani we could become Wimbledon with cash. Nzonzi - Stoke with cash. Still no signings though.

  69. A Cornish Gooner

    Jun 05, 2018, 12:29 #110306

    Tony Evans. It depends what you read. I've just read this "But football.london understands that the 30-year-old is not on the agenda for Arsenal, with one source describing the suggestion of a transfer as ‘complete garbage’"

  70. TonyEvans

    Jun 05, 2018, 12:26 #110305

    Great to see us linked with the type of players we need for a change, rather than yet another lightweight. So good too to have a bit of confidence now that these deals may actually happen rather than wither on the vine.

  71. Badarse

    Jun 05, 2018, 11:11 #110304

    Morning Radfordkennedy. I know it was only a rhetorical question in the earlier post but I cannot resist; I posit that the enemy state was the one who put you in that position, certainly complicit anyway. As for the post regarding the situation at AFC for the new season's transfer strategy I think I touched on the background in my previous post. The unspoken question is, where does Unai begin? A tough old situation with an awareness that the braying hordes are standing in the wings watching. Generally in such a life situation people retreat to a defensive mode. Shore up, pull up the drawbridge and wait to repel the onslaught. Tough, tough, tough. Remember this is Arsenal we are talking about. It isn't a change of face at Stoke, Swansea or Leicester, and those words are written with respect. The eyes of the media will scrutinise every mood. A victory, especially a worthwhile one will be celebrated by our inane press as if it is the second coming. A defeat and it will be doom and gloom. The level of support and rationale of fans of today, those who get easily sucked into the circus will chomp at the bit. The murmur will become a clamour if two or three defeats come. Good luck Unai.

  72. Yes its Ron

    Jun 05, 2018, 11:07 #110303

    RK - Very much so. Yr correct as often you are! I also think this chap is perhaps sending a message to the squad ie that he wants to see some aggression and commitment to be allied to their existing skills of which we do have in abundance in some quarters dont we. I know nothing of the Swiss defender but im assuming hes physical too, having played for Juve as long as he has. Its a good message to send i feel. Ive always liked Fellaini, back to his Everton days. His performances are what they are and dont drop at all. We ve so lacked that this last dozen years or so.

  73. Radfordkennedy

    Jun 05, 2018, 10:52 #110302

    Bard..Ron agree with you about Fellini a bit of guile and steel,much needed we all agree I think.I don't know about you fellas but I get the distinct impression the players we are linked with at the moment are very much part of a quick attempt to shore things up and press ahead with an attempt at getting back going up the table,whilst running hand in glove with a plan of the more longer term.The immediate aim I'm sure is to make sure there's no drastic further slide of the pace,whilst they aren't the marquee signings that some may of hoped for,there is -as those of us of a certain vintage will know - no substitute for experience when a job needs doing now.

  74. Badarse

    Jun 05, 2018, 10:49 #110301

    Ha ha, it's no use. You try to blank posters and just talk of footie but they are clearly limited in footballing terms. Badarse posts, avalanche of opposition, Badarse takes a shower and TOOAW posts, avalanche of drivel aimed at him, he puts the kettle on-it always slips off but he will try 'keepy-uppy' with it-and I appear, what comes next? Avalanche of nonsense? You bet. What amuses and amazes me in equal measure is the belief, (belief is so dangerous because it is not necessarily based in fact, just supposition), is that a poster can angrily, sometimes, er, actually often aggressively by demanding an answer. If the other poster, me or TOOAW do not respond to online bullying they are constantly called out and insulted. Funny? Well as funny as Nark's scripts. Has anyone really considered how difficult Unai's job is and will continue to be? Just a brief resume. He gats a new position, but in a different country, a country with a language he doesn't speak. He meets new peeps and has to bring with him a bagful of remedies like a travelling medicine man. Training, coaching, players to meet, some he thinks he wants and those he thinks he may not, changes if and when he sees them? New men in certain positions that he would see as missing pieces. Money constraints, a go ahead, player wants more, other club unhappy, transfer drags on. Meanwhile he gets another idea, a possible different strategy. All change! An injury to a specific player perhaps? Settling into the new environment whilst collapsing his previous existence. Suddenly the season is upon him and he is under the microscope of unreasonable UK media coverage in a social media age. Easy peasy, eh?

  75. Yes its Ron

    Jun 05, 2018, 9:50 #110300

    Hi Bard - right with you re Fellaini. Just a pity its 5 or 6 years later than when a player of his type coming in was very much needed isnt it. Still a good player though. A clever player who knows how to take a game by its scruff and/or disrupt a game. Not too sure that Utd will let him go though. Hes very much a Mourinho type player isnt he.

  76. markymark

    Jun 05, 2018, 9:00 #110299

    Toaaw - bravo keep em coming !

  77. Bard

    Jun 05, 2018, 8:56 #110298

    John F; Im very excited that Dick is considering bringing in a bit of Fellatio on a free. Its just what we need. Ive always had to pay for it in the past but thats another story. Apparently he is an expert at devouring diagonal balls at the far post, ouch !! I presume that is a figure of speech and not meant literally. Lets face it, its a gamble but we can suck it and see.

  78. TOOAW

    Jun 05, 2018, 8:45 #110297

    Arteta fanboy.. is it true you got sacked from the orange juice factory?? Apparently you couldn't concentrate. Cornish.. is it true you wanted to be a doctor but you didn't have enough patience.. keep smiling fellas. Good old Emery.

  79. mbg

    Jun 05, 2018, 0:38 #110296

    A Cornish 116189, he's still working that out so don't confuse him.

  80. mbg

    Jun 05, 2018, 0:22 #110295

    A Cornish, I shouldn't worry mate (as i'm sure your not) but the idiot doesn't know who he's referring to himself either, lol.

  81. markymark

    Jun 04, 2018, 22:55 #110294

    ToOaW - I’m asking you the question again as you appear to be dodging it. 1: Do you now agree Wenger was sacked? 2: now your 100% moved on , do you now think it was a good idea to have sacked him? Have some more Buckie and come back to us.

  82. A Cornish Gooner

    Jun 04, 2018, 22:05 #110293

    TOOAW. Not sure if the penny has dropped for you yet, but you are indirectly referring to our ex manager every time you post a comment. When will you move on and start posting as TOOUE. Your 'Dad' could change his to Badun.

  83. TOOAW

    Jun 04, 2018, 21:55 #110292

    Arteta fanboy... Are you asking me or telling me? Keep reading the press boyo. One day they may tell the truth.

  84. markymark

    Jun 04, 2018, 21:51 #110291

    ToOaW 1: was Wenger sacked? 2: Now you’ve moved on. Do you agree that it was a good idea that Wenger was sacked.

  85. markymark

    Jun 04, 2018, 21:37 #110290

    John F - yes if it happens it shows Emery will be building up a squad of combatative players . Pragmatic football will be the key . I can imagine one or two having a melt down . Personally I’d welcome it. The feeble fancy boy stuff of Wenger looks like it’s being consigned to history and not before time.

  86. TOOAW

    Jun 04, 2018, 21:10 #110289

    Arteta fanboy.... You couldn't wind up a wrist watch boyo. Have you managed to get over that your beloved novice Mikel isn't taking us to football's changing dynamic. Yaaaaaawwwwwwwnnnnnnnn. Foolish and feeble fella. ha ha ha. Bonzo would be proud.

  87. John F

    Jun 04, 2018, 20:53 #110288

    Cornish the times is reporting that we are in for Fellaini on a free.I think he would add some much needed physical presence but my son disagree s and thinks he will be yet another Utd reject heading our way.

  88. markymark

    Jun 04, 2018, 20:49 #110287

    ToOaW - I create my little scripts as wind ups . They seem to work on you extremely well so expect more. Now what has upset you . Was it just my post or was it news that Fellaini might be joining us on a free transfer ?

  89. markymark

    Jun 04, 2018, 20:16 #110286

    ToOaW - you just keeping weeping over that 14 year old piece of paper in your hand and while your at it try pulling your tongue out of baddies behind. Bet you can’t coz it’s glued in there like a Wenger boy version of the Human Centipede

  90. TOOAW

    Jun 04, 2018, 20:05 #110285

    Narky boy (Arteta fanboy)(bell end) ..... I've tried to explain to Ex today that there is only one Badarse on this site and it's not you fella with your piss poor attempts at writing scripts.... Ex didn't listen and I'm sure neither will you. It does appear that GoonerRon, Badarse and myself can quite easily move forward where Arsenal are concerned. We all have, just check out our posts. Meanwhile, the most boring gooner (ahem mbg) is lost now he has nothing left to argue about and in all fairness, nobody actually listens......Slaps all round for you all.

  91. Exeter Ex

    Jun 04, 2018, 19:57 #110284

    So Badarse has copped out of answering the hard questions and instead gone in for some more weak point scoring. Thought you were above that and condemned others for it? We can surmise then that checking back on previous posts is ‘crossing a line’ but “You would get one warning, no more”… “you deserve a heavy slap” and “or goner as no doubt you soon will be” are fine. And others have a myopic worldview? Your own view can’t be too clear, having contorted yourself into that position. However, having deciphered his post to Don/Alsace I'm obliged to agree. Don, “which of the two logos of the Germo-Soviet Pact his party will be adopting” is pretty silly. A shame, as you've often written so well on Arsenal and Wenger. With apologies to Upper Case Cornish and as for RK, this man is one who really does know what he's talking about.

  92. Badarse

    Jun 04, 2018, 19:39 #110283

    CG still got that French affliction I see, racism? Non! Pity all your studying didn't enlighten you very much, still you can educate a monkey and all that. Ouch!

  93. CORNISH GOONER

    Jun 04, 2018, 19:35 #110282

    Enough, enough, enough!! I study politics, history & society - probably too much for my own good but even I have had enough of the ridiculous, pointless exchanges with one old fart & his sycophantic little friend who are best ignored. So, to the footie & another day with zero AFC news which is becoming a little concerning, oui? A Cornish Gooner - yep I am seriously old & thank you for your very helpful suggestion regarding St Ives Gin. I've had a hard day toiling in the soil so I had a pint of that rather than the Korev. One of my dogs found me in a flowerbed studying cloud formations & I was wheelbarrowed indoors by my lovely wife. It's a leetl bit stronger than Korev isn't it?

  94. markymark

    Jun 04, 2018, 19:34 #110281

    The tremendous clanking noise was what woke Brian , then it was The pain of his boney arse clanking against a metal surface. To his shock Brian realised that he was in some sort of metal bucket and it was moving. The screeching of rusting cogs was almost unbearable . Ahead he heard cursing and shouting. Daring to peer above the bucket he heard a man shouting “You ****ing Mugs you won’t get me you ****ing Mugs..... Aaaarrgghhhh” The final scream sounded dreadful. Suddenly a name flashed up in Neon. “Colesey OAP” then a huge X lighted itself across his name. By now Brian could see that other buckets were ahead of him. All traveling along the same rusty conveyor belt “ Please Mr . I love Mr Wenger Sir. Please ‘ ave mercy on a poor little Toad Sir!” But Brian then heard a scream and once again a name appeared followed by an X. By now Bryan new what fate awaited him. The conveyor kept clanking forward. Brian grew desperate , he needed a plan , oh God what terrible fate awaited him. “ I love Emery, I hated Wenger , I wanted him out 10 years ago! It was just those stupid fools who couldn’t understand . They cannot see what I can see. They do not have an ounce of my intelligence . I am a superior being . Let me go ! “ Brian shouted at the top of his voice , but ....... the bucket continued moving forwards

  95. Radfordkennedy

    Jun 04, 2018, 18:50 #110280

    evening fellas...just to throw my opinion into the mix before we get told not to go off piste,There's no such thing as Communism,Socialism or Fascism,just Gangsterism.Murdering pychopaths who surround themselves with sycophants who know theres a pound note in it,idealism crumbles the minute the till receipts come in.Goverments change their minds whose a rogue state and whose a close ally with monotonous regularity,the sale of arms from a so called friendly nation to an enemy one,of course no problem if you got cash..in my own experience ive been shot at and bombed by a russian made jet carrying french missiles,which one was the enemy state?.Of course the biggest example of government hypocrisy has to be the US chasing Prof Werner Von Braun across Germany to whisk him back a sharpish stateside.Now heres a man who was responsible not only for the deaths of thousands of forced labourers,but directly responsible for the deaths of over 5000 londoners by way of the V2.but the yanks put him to work at nasa and ended up giving him the Medal of Honor,gangsters all of them

  96. mbg

    Jun 04, 2018, 18:39 #110279

    I didn't see the game myself but an Norn Ireland nut mate who did tells me Joel Campbell had a blinder against us, setting up two goals before scoring one himself in their 3-0 win, another one free of wengers shackles, but save some for Arsenal and the new season Joel, remember you've got a proper manager now.

  97. A Cornish Gooner

    Jun 04, 2018, 18:30 #110278

    Badarse. "how does a statement of fact as in a deserving cause become a threat" Please explain.

  98. Badarse

    Jun 04, 2018, 18:18 #110277

    Oh wow, Don Howe. Thanks for explaining what you do when you see something wrong. Why have you been so quiet for so long then? You push an agenda because you clearly are a Tory. Nothing wrong in having an opposing view to arrive at a better place. It's what we all want, whether we eat porridge or eggs for breakfast. What is wrong as a porridge eater is to decry eggs. I think your view is pretty limited in general. To dismiss a nation's history for the last few hundred years and to hang a label on it in a sentence is pretty bold, or narrow depending upon your perception. Still I think we should avoid politics as the subject is often like trying to teach a blind man how to see.

  99. Exeter Ex

    Jun 04, 2018, 18:11 #110276

    "I think you know exactly what is and isn't acceptable, and when a line is crossed." Do you? If so, are you going to apologise? Then we can all move back to the football. The opportunity is there for you.

  100. A Cornish Gooner

    Jun 04, 2018, 18:04 #110275

    “Not surprising that the two I mentioned and suggested as 'normal' both responded positively in a supportive fashion” Neither was it surprising that those you variously described as a fool, a dodgy unbalanced sociopath, an idiot, dinosaurs wanting what once was, and most with a band of cowardice a mile wide running through them, did not respond positively in a supportive fashion. Exeter. I took it as a threat. Unless he does really think I'm 100.

  101. Badarse

    Jun 04, 2018, 18:02 #110274

    A question, how does a statement of fact as in a deserving cause become a threat. Surely to deserve something it means an individual has merited a reward in some shape or form? I say to anyone, remember that old conveyor belt, and especially those too obtuse to grasp anything beyond a myopic view of reality. cg, you may convince yourself by sanitising recent history but I'm not fooled. I think you know exactly what is and isn't acceptable, and when a line is crossed. You are uncomfortable about the charge laid at your door and hoped that involving the other CG in a knockabout 'lads' manner would lighten it and help to diffuse the accusation. You don't need to worry about any beef I have with him or any other. Rwanda? When we wear Emirates on our shirts? A nation who abuse and vilify gays, women, and any who don't meet their archaic and draconian laws? We only regard it as a holiday resort such is our apolitical approach to human rights abuses. They are only one step down from Ulster in some laws. Told you it was coming Ulster! Power to the people, especially the women.

  102. Don Howe

    Jun 04, 2018, 18:01 #110273

    Yes, Badarse, I noticed that the Arsenal Legends will be playing in September. The equivalent against AC Milan's old boys was easily the best game of last year. This will be good as well, but hopefully this year the league games will be worth watching too. I wonder (according to Mark Y Mark - childishly) whether Jeremy will attend and will be considering, as he does so, which of the two logos of the Germo-Soviet Pact his party will be adopting for the ballot box next time round to show their true nature. If you see something wrong or evil, you call it that - not pretend its something else because it's uncomfortable. We have just been through that, on a far lesser scale of importance, with Wenger.

  103. Exeter Ex

    Jun 04, 2018, 17:06 #110272

    A Cornish - I was wondering about "or goner as no doubt you soon will be" was about. Another threat? Or simple ageism? Wasn't he railing against ageism on here recently? Ron - he isn't taking your advice, you can see he wants to keep it going. And don't you find "Ron was the most adept at behaving himself, but not initially. After a number of run ins between us he adopted a different approach" incredibly patronising?

  104. GoonerRon

    Jun 04, 2018, 17:03 #110271

    @ Exeter - TOOAW and Badarse get plenty of comeback on their posts from you and Marky so no need for me to wade in too. Mbg continues to show more rigour in his hatred for Wenger than his love for Arsenal and no one seems to bat an eyelid. Believe me, I’ve already let go of Wenger - count up the posts by me and mbg that mention Wenger unprompted since he left and you’ll see.

  105. A Cornish Gooner

    Jun 04, 2018, 15:14 #110270

    Badarse. A ‘supportive’ response to your post 116148; No I'm not a goner. No, I don’t know that my actions were beyond the pale. There was no ‘power attempt’. I didn’t say it was my first impression of you. Yes, I thought you were referring to me, but my point was that I didn’t think CG knew who you meant. Why do you need to have a go at him? CG my son? If he remembers an air raid shelter he must be about ten years older than you. (Apologies if I’m wrong CG) That would make me nearly 100! I felt no embarrassment, so none needed to be hidden. Is local beer talk any worse than eggs and thick cut discussions? On what grounds would you have contacted OG? I never threatened you (with or without a heavy slap) Of what guilt could they have convinced me? If Ron is capable of adopting a different approach why can’t you? Stick to your informative (not patRonising) posts and you might be more appreciated. Finally, what do you make of the Rwanda sponsorship deal?

  106. Badarse

    Jun 04, 2018, 14:53 #110269

    Not surprising that the two I mentioned and suggested as 'normal' both responded positively in a supportive fashion.

  107. mbg

    Jun 04, 2018, 14:19 #110268

    That sabbatical didn't last long, LOL, just one of the reasons he's the joke of the site.

  108. mbg

    Jun 04, 2018, 14:06 #110267

    markymark, Exeter, yes lads it didn't take the joke of the site very long to revert back to showing his true colours when cornered and made a fool of yet again with insults and threats.

  109. Badarse

    Jun 04, 2018, 14:05 #110266

    Afternoon TOOAW, ta for the support. It's odd that supporters seem to have trouble with supporting if it's outside their remit. I am excited-just like a kid in the playground and I know I shall carry this part to the grave-I have discovered that the Arsenal Legends will play Real Madrid Legends at the Grove Sat 8th Sept 2pm KO. I am busy scouring who can make it. My grandchildren will be able to see Bobby Pires et al I hope. As I said, I'm like a child, cannot wait. So it's a good old TOOAW, good old Unai, good old Arsenal, straight back at you.

  110. Exeter Ex

    Jun 04, 2018, 13:59 #110265

    Toady, I doubt you can see anything clearly through the bottom of that bottle of Buckfast. Badarse admitted defeat the moment he pressed Send after typing 'You deserve a heavy slap'. There's no way back from that.

  111. Exiled in Pt

    Jun 04, 2018, 13:59 #110264

    Ex- valid point mate but it has spiraled a little out of control. Those virtual fingers can be very annoying, think sometimes we all just have to lean back and laugh. Lets face it as gooner's we have had to laugh a lot to stop us crying over the last few years .Onward's and upwards with are new man in charge if anyone can bring a smile back to us it has to be good old Dick..

  112. mbg

    Jun 04, 2018, 13:53 #110263

    Exeter, yes mate and quite often he's in still backing him and sticking up for him himself, like i told him a while ago he should follow his own advice, but as we know that's not what a few of them on here do.

  113. Exeter Ex

    Jun 04, 2018, 13:46 #110262

    Exiled, you're right it's all got out of proportion. But I think when you voice an opinion, to have some self-righteous individual wag their virtual finger in your virtual face can be rather annoying. It all spirals from there.

  114. TOOAW

    Jun 04, 2018, 13:41 #110261

    Ex... It does appear to me that your infatuation with Badarse is getting to you. Take some time off fella. He's clearly better than you. Just read back on your last dozen or so posts. It's sniping and bitchin at its best and not one iota of football mentioned. Good afternoon Badarse. No need for the apologies, I can clearly see who the winners and losers of the site are eh Arteta fanboy. Good old Badarse. Good old Arsenal. Good old Emery.

  115. Exiled in Pt

    Jun 04, 2018, 13:38 #110260

    Ex , i just don't get why people get so wound up by it . I think far too much of what is written is taken to heart by some . End of the day we are all faceless on here so if someone wants to portray themselves as something they are or are not does it really matter it is not going to have any sort of affect on our day to day lives .

  116. Exeter Ex

    Jun 04, 2018, 13:16 #110259

    Exiled - almost everyone on here is able to disagree with each other without much rancour. There is one individual with whom it gets out of control with numerous others. You work out where the problem is. He writes the ultimate 'burn your bridges' post, states he's going to leave... then immediately just carries on posting. It beggars belief.

  117. Exiled in Pt

    Jun 04, 2018, 12:54 #110258

    Where is the Arsenal love for all our fellow supporters!! Do we all need to agree with each other all the time ?Surely we are all big enough not to get so upset when we do not like what someone has posted , after all it is an open forum . Seems like kids in the playground stuff half the time !!

  118. Badarse

    Jun 04, 2018, 12:08 #110257

    Keep on reading Ron. I currently have three books on the go, decisions of which to read at any one time is sometimes confusing. Need a self-help book on Confusion I think.

  119. Yes its Ron

    Jun 04, 2018, 11:39 #110256

    Baddie - im still grinding through A Place Of Greater Safety - Our Friend - Hilary Mantell. Im sticking to it as its from a period i read quite a bit on, the Fr Rev. Have to say though, its not easy. Shes has an awkward style. The content is good though as you d expect. As antidote though, also reading through the 'The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F--k' - Manson. Its not for everybody for sure but its light weight, funny, an easy read and yet very liberating Baddie!!

  120. Badarse

    Jun 04, 2018, 11:11 #110255

    Morning Ron. Yes I get it pal. Many little instances lead us along our personal pathway in life. Two children born on different sides of the tracks will flower in differing ways. The forces and dynamics they come into contact with during the journey buffet and change the course that their little boats take. I read a book donkey's years ago on a similar but homegrown theme entitled 'The Quest for Gaia'. II think the title did the content a disservice as it smacked of 'new age' before new age existed. It was by a chap, a professor I think, (cannot be bothered to look it up), named 'Kit' Pedlar. It basically challenged in a soft manner what we as a society accepted as the norm and railed against as 'different'. It prompted the reader to think. To consider. To look at everyday things anew. A perfect example was dress. How if a person wears a suit which isn't pressed he is regarded as a pariah. This despite common sense telling the wearers that placing hot metal on fabric destroys it and limits it's life. Still, it has to be done to fit into the narrow version of acceptability. However, and here is the good part to illuminate the foolishness of the entire masquerade, it has to be pressed in a certain fashion, because pressing it isn't enough. The 'pressers' have to also conform. If the trousers, let's say flairs as these possibly were in fashion at the time, my memory is murky on that one, were pressed sideways the wearers would resemble clowns. That would be unacceptable and society would laugh at them as they were 'different' once more. Hope you found it interesting buddy and thanks. Is it analogous?

  121. Exeter Ex

    Jun 04, 2018, 10:56 #110254

    There's nothing more cowardly, beyond the pale and, frankly, pathetic about threatening violence from behind the safety of a computer screen. To still feel able to sit in judgment of others when you are the only one to take things to that extreme speaks of a severe lack of self-awareness. Even when he's trying to be conciliatory he still can't help stating it was the other that had to learn to 'behave' themselves, never him. There's no way back from violent threats, so if he's actually, finally realised it's time to go once and for all, then good. Let's hope he can find the willpower to stick to it. Don't keep reading the site, that'll help.

  122. Yes its Ron

    Jun 04, 2018, 10:18 #110253

    Morning Baddie - saw yr post about the book, The Third wave. Im sure i read that yrs ago too, but cant be totally sure. There were a few publications about on the same theme at the time that was written i recall, unless im mistaken? PS you should just pick yr posters to respond to on here and limit it to the footie. We ve all fallen foul of the inherent traps that sites like this one contain and posted inappropriately at times. Not one of us are exempted matey.

  123. Badarse

    Jun 04, 2018, 9:57 #110252

    cornish gooner, or goner as no doubt you soon will be, you know that your actions were beyond the pale, the constant mentioning displays a power attempt, it's ugly and wouldn't pass in natural face to face circumstances. It's funny but not to be criticised that your first impression of me was as it was, by contrast my first impression of you was as a 'good lad'. Amazing how wrong we can be, isn't it? You knew it was you being referred to rather than the other CG, (your son?), but it took some of the shame away perhaps. I mean who really wants to engage with a stalker? Without me another may fill the frame, so watch out posters. It isn't that nice. Your behaviour despite the local beer talk between yourselves, hid an embarrassment, of that I am sure. I do think the criticism hits home hence the embarrassed statement now in trying to justify the actions. I thought of contacting the OG but decided against, they may have clipped your wings. Wouyld that have convinced you of your guilt? Still history now. Nark is a fool, Eggman is a dodgy unbalanced sociopath, MAYDUP is an idiot, many others are dinosaurs wanting what once was, and a band of cowardice a mile wide runs through most. Ron was the most adept at behaving himself, but not initially. After a number of run ins between us he adopted a different approach and his informative posts were very appreciated. I shall miss him, no one else. Apologies TOOAW it was a waste of time after all.

  124. Exeter Ex

    Jun 04, 2018, 9:16 #110251

    GR - T0OAW and Badarse keep mentioning Wenger too. Why aren't you telling them to let him go? Wenger left a couple of weeks ago, his influence will take a long time to be expunged, his hangers on are still being slowly got rid of. The ramifications of his methods will impact how the team does probably for seasons to come. He is going to be mentioned and criticised still. Maybe you need to let go of any hurt reading such words give you?

  125. peter wain

    Jun 04, 2018, 8:18 #110250

    Another week gone and no movement on resolving Wiltshire or Ramsey's contract situation. Nor Welbeck. We cannot even seen to tie down a 34 fullback who is on a free transfer. Is it me or are other people underwhelmed by the lack of activity from our new transfer machine?

  126. GoonerRon

    Jun 04, 2018, 8:18 #110249

    @ mbg - YOU HAVE TO LET IT GO, HE’S NOT OUR MANAGER ANYMORE. For someone who you obviously despise and who is no longer in any way employed or connected to the club you apparently support, you waste a huge amount of time talking about him.

  127. markymark

    Jun 04, 2018, 6:49 #110248

    Baddie the Kremlin stooge waiting for the revolution like the Cambridge Ring. Still the extra Red supplement to your pension must come in handy. Now past it and unable to have influence, Baddie’s jealousy comes to the fore. - [ ] Kronke sets up a kill channel. Baddie says don’t protest it’ll achieve nothing. The WOB’s do and it did . Baddie says you’ll never be able to protest against anything. We the WOB’s do and the club finally sack Wenger. Baddie says we on this site ripped apart his society . Well funny that Baddie because If all your protests had worked that society ( whatever it was ) would still be in place. Looks like the least successful was you sunshine . Your time is over. You have zero influence , deal with it.

  128. mbg

    Jun 04, 2018, 0:07 #110247

    Is one so dim that they cannot see that the one so slithering, slimy and nasty is him.

  129. mbg

    Jun 03, 2018, 23:49 #110246

    Exeter, yes, like a little puppy dog humping your leg it/he bites every time, hee hee.

  130. mbg

    Jun 03, 2018, 23:38 #110245

    On reflection I think TOF would be a great success at Real, he actually wouldn't have to do anything, any coaching, wouldn't have to teach them anything (cough) wouldn't need tactics nothing, (just like when he took over at Arsenal with George Grahams defence) with the real winners/players they have they don't need a manager (certainly not wing wang wenger) they could run themselves all TOF would have to do is sit there (he's good at that and has had plenty of practice anyway) and wave his arms every now and again and pretend, and the trophies would flow in, but we know who would be taking the bows and accolades though.

  131. A Cornish Gooner

    Jun 03, 2018, 21:02 #110244

    Badarse. I can understand why you describe me as a ‘stalker’. I don’t think I am though. It’s just that I know more about you than most on this site, and you know what I know about you. Don’t you? What I know is because you have posted scraps of information about yourself over the last god knows how many years. I have simply worked out something from these scraps and Google has come up with some very unexpected results! That doesn’t make me a stalker does it? When you mentioned the word ‘stalker’ in yesterday’s post you referred to ‘Cornish gooner’, so it wasn’t clear exactly who you were referring to (sorry Baddie; to whom you were referring). I think that’s why Cornish Gooner later responded. It’s a bit rich for you to post: “but, hay there are two of them, so a 'blokey' thing passes between. Off air each is embarrassingly awkward in their own company” That couldn’t be said about you and TOOAW, could it? I used to think of you as some sort of pompous, know all Victor Meldrew type. However, your recent mentioning/bragging about knowing boxers/gangsters/murderers and “you deserve a heavy slap” points to a far more malevolent personality, I’m afraid. So much for ‘New Badarse’. I do agree with you though, that this situation really needs some more input from other posters. To Old Man, bergkamp10, Tony Evans, Redshirtwhitesleeves and all the other posters who have said it’s all boring name calling, YOU need to outline what you want, and not what you don’t want. Cornish. Hello 'blokey'. Hope you enjoyed the Korev. After a hard day stalking I prefer something stronger. Would recommend St Ives Gin.

  132. markymark

    Jun 03, 2018, 20:56 #110243

    Baddie I’m afraid attacking people online makes you a gutless coward ( your words not mine ) you’re obviously winding yourself up in knots and these violent threats ( 2nd occasion ) should really get you banned. If you can’t control your impulses , much like racist ToOaW , Colesey , Jameson ( all your pals ). Perhaps you should get one of your relatives to turn off your router for a while . It’s genuinely not doing you any good sunshine .

  133. Exeter Ex

    Jun 03, 2018, 20:19 #110242

    Ha ha ha, brilliant! Weak impulse control...

  134. Badarse

    Jun 03, 2018, 19:56 #110241

    You deserve a heavy slap.

  135. Exeter Ex

    Jun 03, 2018, 19:36 #110240

    Can't 'a poster' see that his life lessons and pompous, overbearing manner grate, and this is why he is attacked? No, 'a poster' cannot see this, because this is who he is. So he has to be kept in check, otherwise he gets overconfident and starts judging every other post. By the way, Wenger was toppled. I guess you're still in the denial stage.

  136. Badarse

    Jun 03, 2018, 19:33 #110239

    I'm looking through you...la, la, la. The two posters appear, laughingly referring to being stalkers, and they know it, but,hay there are two of them, so a 'blokey' thing passes between. Off air each is embarrassingly awkward in their own company. Rumbled, accused, and guilty. How embarrassing for them, let's hope no one stands up and says 'enough'; no fear of that. OG, Online Gooner, or Outright Golightlies?

  137. Badarse

    Jun 03, 2018, 19:09 #110238

    OK a general question with no major problems, but a private revelation only. Are some so dim that they cannot recognise how slippery, slithering, slimy, and nasty they might be. Do they allude to being 'friends' with cowards on the site, the silent majority who never say, 'OK lads, that's enough.' Are they so thick-skinned that they cannot see that a poster posts and immediately the 'usual suspects' dive bomb him with dud firecrackers, and the spectators, the other posters look away in embarrassment and reluctance to 'get involved'? These are the 'advanced army' seeking to topple Arsene Wenger, the board, then the owner, and uncle Tom Cobbley and all. They couldn't topple a house of cards. Silence is not always golden gentlemen. By the way, still counting? 5-0.

  138. markymark

    Jun 03, 2018, 17:13 #110237

    Baddie don’t measure others agains your IT capacity or lack of. We can answer one of your Eggscrutiatng postings in 30 seconds flat.,None of us are stuck in an attic. We leave that to Toad

  139. Exeter Ex

    Jun 03, 2018, 16:56 #110236

    Exposed again. And not by the sunshine.

  140. Badarse

    Jun 03, 2018, 15:53 #110235

    3-0.

  141. Exeter Ex

    Jun 03, 2018, 15:21 #110234

    You have stated on numerous occasions your wife sets you up on the PC every morning as you don't know how to work it. With 'bathing in sunshine' are you now saying you're posting from out in the garden on a laptop, tablet or phone?

  142. Badarse

    Jun 03, 2018, 14:36 #110233

    When'd he say he was going? When'd he say he was coming back? That's the trouble with Wendy, don't believe a word she says. He had taken on the mantel of Peter Pan as he had become an ageist. It was now Badarse's duty to care for the lost boys. It was a hopeless task as he knew they would grow into lost men, but there was enough of the judge left in him, he was still a trier. He flew over the house tops with Tinkerbell, still smarting from being referred to as a midget by an uncaring lost boy. She'd knocked his pork pie hat off but Badarse grabbed her before she flattened him. They landed on a nearby roof. It was slippery and it could have been costly as Tink slipped once, but he knew that was the trouble with overheads. Arriving in Never Never Land as the UK'S credit climbed they flew over the lost boys. Their eyes and mouths wide open as they looked Sky-wards, Murdoch had a lot to answer for with all the undiagnosed lobotomies present. 'Who damaged the Treehouse?' asked Badarse as he came to ground. "'S'mee, 's'mee!" They shouted in unison. He was just pleased that they'd joined a union, perhaps his lessons were being absorbed.

  143. Badarse

    Jun 03, 2018, 14:13 #110232

    Dark days in the west as others bathe in sunshine, 2-0!

  144. Exeter Ex

    Jun 03, 2018, 12:19 #110231

    Funniest of all, so easy to trigger. Falls for it every single time.

  145. Badarse

    Jun 03, 2018, 11:03 #110230

    Nearly got through it then slipped...again...and it became 1-0 in the new game that he didn't want to play. Oh, hum, up yer bum!

  146. markymark

    Jun 03, 2018, 11:00 #110229

    “tee see suur” said Toad . The barman looked blankly at him. “dywedais, yn ei gwneud yn un mawr”. The barman looked even blanker. Toad realised that speaking Estonian and Welsh was unlikely to achieve the large Whiskey he was after . “I said thicko, I want a large whiskey !” The Barman who was used to belligerent drunks said . Any more of that sunshine and you’re out! Toad realised , no Bar , no Whiskey . He said to the Barman“I’m sorry Mr. I didn’t mean it Mr. I’m just on me own and sad coz me Wenger’s gone!” Toad stifled the sobs and pulled out the crumpled piece of paper. Faded and barely legible it read 2004 Arsene Wenger’s greatest triumph. Toad cried “Mr Wenger I’ll follow you anywhere , I’m your biggest fanboy . I’ll even go to Japan with you . Just give me the word Mr Wenger.” At this Toad collapsed his head into his arms and cried bitter tears . “ Shall I ring your mate Halfarse to collect you ? “. Said the Barman. He just knew this was going to be hard work

  147. Badarse

    Jun 03, 2018, 10:41 #110228

    A perfect ten! Double figures, 10-0. Game over and all posters and imposters can see the slithering and name-calling, the sniping and insulting, not to mention the frothing..."I said not to mention the frothing!" So transparent, so obvious, so predictable, so limited, not to mention so and so's. "I said not to mention so and so's!" They sharpened their knives, they saw an opportunity of an unguarded back. "We come to praise Caesar not to bury him." Was it a waste of time, a time of waste? Everyone has a story, even the dull and the ignorant, thankfully it hasn't been posted for a few days-pork pie hats are too hammy. So I enjoyed that. A tacit prompt to '...discuss politics...', and follow on with another, '...to discuss the connections with Abramovitch and Russia specifically...'brought an avalanche of posts. My work is done. Pity all other posters except two run for cover when faced with unfair approaches to an individual. So much for 'We are all in it together', and 'We can unite now AW has gone. 'Baloney! Disparate individuals uniting under one flag for one immediate cause are not a team yet they claim to know the way to organise one for PL title-contending football. Small children would laugh if it was pointed out to them. Here is your thought for the day, 'Eggs on two slices of Hovis toast.'