Arsenal need a win and a draw from their remaining three away games

76 points could be enough for 4th place, if only on goal difference



Arsenal need a win and a draw from their remaining three away games

Feel free to work out the Arsenal points tally


I’ve been banging on for a while now on my assertion that 76 points should be enough to secure Champions League football next season via fourth place. And doing a tally of the remaining matches, that still appears to be the case – for Arsenal at least. One positive of the legacy of Jose Mourinho’s final months at Old Trafford is that Man Utd are seven goals worse off than Arsenal. This can change, but given their remaining fixtures it’s unlikely.

I think that we may have to accept that, unless Arsenal win all of their remaining matches, St Totteringham’s Day might not happen this season. Granted, Spurs may well lose at the Etihad, but their other four matches are bread and butter even by Tottenham’s standards and their notorious ability to Spurs things up. Since the move back to the refurbished Lane, they have won every game there. No settling in dramas. So from 67 points now, I have them finishing on 79 and in third. I simply do not see Arsenal making 81 points, which is that they would need given Spurs’ superior goal difference (although four wins and a draw would also give the Gunners 79 points, it’s unlikely they will outscore them).

So what about Chelsea? I reckon that they will lose at Old Trafford, although some might think that a draw there would be the perfect result for Arsenal. Perhaps not so, given Chelsea are only five behind Arsenal on goal difference. I have them winning their other three matches. So a total of 75 points (a draw at United would take them to 76)

So we come to Manchester United. And the four points Arsenal have taken off them could be very significant by the season’s end. I think they are going to lose the Manchester derby. City cannot afford to slip up in a single one of their games looking at Liverpool’s run-in. And United’s defence in front of David De Gea isn’t what it used to be when they had the likes of Ferdinand and Vidic in tandem. Arsenal would certainly prefer United to lose to City rather than Chelsea. If this did happen, Ole Gunnar Solskjaer’s side would finish on 76 points, assuming they win all their other games aside from the derby. They have no further Champions League distractions, something that will also apply to one of Spurs or Man City by this time tomorrow.

Things should be a lot clearer by the end of April, with all of the less predictable results having been decided.

Except for Arsenal that is. To get 76 points and maintain goal difference superiority over United, they need to win both of their home matches – that’s a given, to take them to 72 points. It would certainly assist their cause if they could put away Palace and Brighton in those fixtures comfortably. That leaves them needing four more from the trips to Wolves, Leicester and Burnley. Could Burnley be on the beach by the last day of the season? They might need to be. Arsenal can, in theory, afford to lose one (although maybe only by a single goal) and draw one from the other two away trips.

Of course, they could make life easy for themselves by winning every remaining league match this season. And years back, you’d have fancied them to against this level of opposition. It’s a different story these days though, as the last two seasons have made obvious.

I haven’t filled in a predicted total for Arsenal. God alone knows what might happen. Five wins? 81 points and third place? Unlikely, but you would have to say they need a minimum of 76 points, and if other results go their way, that should be enough. Three wins and a draw from five remaining games, although the possibility of a further two European games in the event that they progress past Napoli will make that task marginally more demanding.

So Arsenal know what they have to do, and at least they are in control of their own destiny as it stands. One thing I think most Gooners who saw the performance at Vicarage Road on Monday evening will agree on. The players will have to play better than that to get any further away points.

 

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  1. itsRonagain2

    Apr 18, 2019, 11:38 #113543

    lads - im thnking theres 13 points there for Arsenal. wins v Palace, Wolves, Brighton, and Burnley. Draw at Leics

  2. itsRonagain2

    Apr 18, 2019, 11:31 #113542

    Marky - i personally think the patron saint of smiles, OGS will be gone by Xmas (or even before). Hes only got that job on sufferance. Silly media hacks and the Manc fans dredging up the tedious old 1999 ticket and giving it a good rub to lever him in. So good to see them looking as bad as any poor team we ve had this past 12 years. Im guessing that Manure Chief Exec with the head shaped like a giant sweet potato has a P45 in his top drawer ready to polish it up for delivery. We get on about our hapless defenders but hey, take a look at the odd couple, Jones and Smalling. They make Mustafi and Koscheilny look like world beaters.

  3. arrgee

    Apr 18, 2019, 10:56 #113541

    Man Utd will be out of it after their next three games (can’t see them getting more than 4 points from those) and most likely so will Chelsea after their trip to Old Toilet (unlikely to win there). 9 more points will see Arsenal in the top 4. I think the scum will probably get 10-12 points, so for a St. Totts day, it will have to be 12+, maybe even 15. One away win and job pretty much done.

  4. arrgee

    Apr 18, 2019, 10:56 #113540

    Man Utd will be out of it after their next three games (can’t see them getting more than 4 points from those) and most likely so will Chelsea after their trip to Old Toilet (unlikely to win there). 9 more points will see Arsenal in the top 4. I think the scum will probably get 10-12 points, so for a St. Totts day, it will have to be 12+, maybe even 15. One away win and job pretty much done.

  5. Bard

    Apr 18, 2019, 8:27 #113539

    How much fun is it to be in contention come the end of the season ? We are usually 'on the beach' by Feb at the latest. My own view is that momentum is everything. If we put in a good performance against Napoli then we might get up a head of steam. A lot depends on fitness issues and the fickle nature of this particular group. Either way I am enjoying the ride and trying to put aside my cynicism. A plus point is the Spuds distraction with CL.

  6. Paulo75

    Apr 17, 2019, 19:33 #113538

    A pleasant change for us to be in the running on two fronts going into the last few weeks. To echo a few of the comments already the away games don't fill me with confidence, especially Leicester away. Tomorrow will be a very tough obstacle I reckon despite the relatively comfortable first leg. Just hope we can squeeze through and the momentum we gain takes care of the rest. Hats off to Ajax for bucking the trend in the CL, I'll bet that didn't go down too well in the Halls of Power in Geneva.

  7. markymark

    Apr 17, 2019, 18:50 #113537

    I reckon Kevin built in a bit of a buffer. I’m thinking Chelsea and UTD finish on 74 with OGS ( Bilbo ) looking like a very sad Hobbit. Yes it’s Ron has not been on recently but I’m sure he’ll join me in laughing hard at Olly bringing a smile to UTD!

  8. markymark

    Apr 17, 2019, 18:40 #113536

    I reckon Kevin built in a bit of a buffer. I’m thinking Chelsea and UTD finish on 74 with OGS ( Bilbo ) looking like a very sad Hobbit. Yes it’s Ron has not been on recently but I’m sure he’ll join me in laughing hard at Olly bringing a smile to UTD!

  9. itsRonagain2

    Apr 17, 2019, 16:31 #113535

    These end of season games always get bulled up by the TV to try and keep peoples interest up. Reality is that once a few results go the right way for a few teams at the bottom, they then go on the beach with the mid table teams and the games become sort of joke games. Arsenal will maybe get the points away but you never know as they're so chronic away from home. Theirs also the question of whether they really care about the top 4 Cup? I think Dick is more Europa oriented.

  10. John F

    Apr 17, 2019, 16:31 #113534

    GR I hope you are right but performance s away from home have been so dire I just can't see us getting the required points.We are a Jekyll and Hyde team.I wonder if the directors under the Stanley restrictions are looking at the Ajax success with their emphasis on younger players,apparently they were excellent last night.One last comment "come on City" please don't let them knock you out.

  11. Radfordkennedy

    Apr 17, 2019, 16:10 #113533

    GoonerRon ....Wish I had your optimism mate,can't see us getting the 76 points,my opinion is we'll get to 73 with 2 wins and a draw,and the 2 wins coming in the final two games, with the draw against palace.I realise getting the points is more important than performance at this stage but we have been dreadful recently away from home we may have a chance if Mustafi and Mhiky are struck down with a bout of Ozils disease or swamp fever or something,just can't help feeling we might come up short, sincerely hop I'm wrong though.

  12. GoonerRon

    Apr 17, 2019, 15:41 #113532

    I can’t help but feel we’re building these away games into something they’re not. Undoubtedly tricky, and given our away form feel tough, but I’m hoping in the home straight with lots at stake we can focus on the job in hand (irrespective of what pitch we play on) and do what we need to. Palace, Huddersfield, Bournemouth, Newcastle, Burnley and Southampton have all taken points off Wolves in recent times so we shouldn’t go there with our pants full. Likewise Leicester and Burnley. Take one game at a time, intelligently manoeuvre the squad through the fixture list and get it done. 5 clean sheets in 6 points to a level of steeliness and on that basis, plus our firepower, I think we will win our remaining league games.

  13. John F

    Apr 17, 2019, 15:26 #113531

    I hope you are right but I am not so confident due to our very poor away form.Leicester despite one hiccup have been playing very well under BR ,Wolves can be excellent on their day at home and Burnley have a chip on their shoulder regarding a few decisions that went against them when playing us.We will win the home games and it all depends if Chelsea can balls it up.

  14. Nos89

    Apr 17, 2019, 14:33 #113530

    Does anyone remember when we got bored about finishing in the top 4 and Champions League football? Reminds me of the 2005/06 season when we headed into the last day of the season behind Spurs and we won, they lost (lasagnegate???) and we finished above them. All whilst reaching a European Cup final. Would love that scenario to happen again. Now Brighton have something to fight for the last home game may not be as straight forward as we would like it to be. I still think we can pip 3rd as hopefully after this weekend that is where we will be. But as they say one game at a time. Turn around season nor same old Arsenal?

  15. ArsenalMagna

    Apr 17, 2019, 13:23 #113529

    Probably the biggest consideration here has to be European games. I know the mid-week game fatigue argument got overdone on this site in defence of Wenger but there is a definite disadvantage to playing mid-week when your opponents have had a rest. If Spurs beat City in the CL then they'll face Bournemouth away and Everton at home having had two tough mid-week games against Ajax. Likewise, Chelsea, who seem to be struggling anyway, will have to play a desperate Burnely at Home after the Slavia Prague match tomorrow, then Watford away and Leicester at home after two EL games in which their first XI will be involved. The same applies to us of course in terms of mid-week games, except ours are against two relegation sides; one at home against Brighton and away against Burnley. Either opponent could be 'on the beach' or desperate to win; the latter meaning either they're ferociously effective or wide open for us to easily counterattack! As for United, not enough in football realise a team's form booms with a new manager at the helm, and it levels out after a few weeks/months. There are some deep problems that team has and I think they'll struggle even without CL games.

  16. ArsenalMagna

    Apr 17, 2019, 13:23 #113528

    Probably the biggest consideration here has to be European games. I know the mid-week game fatigue argument got overdone on this site in defence of Wenger but there is a definite disadvantage to playing mid-week when your opponents have had a rest. If Spurs beat City in the CL then they'll face Bournemouth away and Everton at home having had two tough mid-week games against Ajax. Likewise, Chelsea, who seem to be struggling anyway, will have to play a desperate Burnely at Home after the Slavia Prague match tomorrow, then Watford away and Leicester at home after two EL games in which their first XI will be involved. The same applies to us of course in terms of mid-week games, except ours are against two relegation sides; one at home against Brighton and away against Burnley. Either opponent could be 'on the beach' or desperate to win; the latter meaning either they're ferociously effective or wide open for us to easily counterattack! As for United, not enough in football realise a team's form booms with a new manager at the helm, and it levels out after a few weeks/months. There are some deep problems that team has and I think they'll struggle even without CL games.

  17. RobG

    Apr 17, 2019, 10:03 #113527

    Good one Kev. I did this the other day and - admittedly on the basis that Spurs lose to City and draw one of their remaining fixtures - have us finishing above them, on the assumption we win four of our remaining five. Having said that, I would happily take fourth, especially after that duff performance at Watford, where we really rode our luck. What I wouldn't give for an Arsenal side, like that young Ajax team. Fantastic results, fearless away performances and GREAT football to watch. Maybe next year....or the year after....?