Who do you think you are kidding Mr Wenger?

Post Old Trafford nullification musings



Who do you think you are kidding Mr Wenger?

Theo: Did what he does best


I think I used this title once before, so apologies for the lack of originality. But like Arsenal under Wenger these days, the same old, same old rubric applies. Lack of passion, lack of drive, lack of strength to win the midfield, too many “big” players failing to deliver and the manager lacking the wit to out-think his opponent.

Ferguson knew how Arsenal would line-up, so he picked a tough central three to prevent our ball players having the space to weave their magic. And it worked. Did Rosicky do anything substantial in his time on the pitch? Did Arshavin, or indeed Nasri, ever look like opening up the United defence? How many real chances did we create? How many threatening shots did we have on target?

Cesc and RvP looked way off the pace when they came on and Theo did what Theo does best, running into roadblocks (ie experienced defenders who know what to do with him) or losing control.

So there we are: another game against the top two in which we have failed to score and in which, to be honest, we did not look like scoring (Chamakh’s effort saved by Vidic and one header apart). Defeat may not be terminal to our hopes in this most topsy-turvy of seasons, but did we even show a hint of the class or passion or desire of potential champions? Not that I could see!

Still, a win on Saturday against Stoke and a Chelsea win on Sunday will see us top at Xmas, continuing the illusion that we are a top side. Several people had texted me or emailed to say how confident they were before the game. Quite what made them confident or optimistic that Wenger would be able to get this team organised to fight for a win at Old Trafford I don’t know. It hasn’t happened for so long now that none of this team really knows what it takes to win away at a big team, or even get a draw. And that is why, I fear, winning the Premier League or the Champions League is an illusion. When the big games come, our big players don’t live up to billing the manager gives them. Until they do, we won’t win a trophy.


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  1. Wolfgang

    Dec 18, 2010, 2:52 #364

    Watching the game from Munich really hurt.Time and again the gunners are beaten . When will the winless sequence end?It will start with Wenger and end with him. That is why he is deluded if he thinks he can win the epl or cl with this bunch pf players.Actually Arsenal could have been challenging all these years if he had plug the gaps with experinced players .Instead the learned prof has signed kid after kid and loan them out. He has neglected the present for the future. His experiment with wonder kids has gone on too long without the payback expected.I am afraid all gooner fans have lost all faith in him unless he can hijack either the cl or epl .This is a long shot.

  2. Tony Gordon

    Dec 15, 2010, 21:52 #263

    Wenger's post match comments are rapidly becoming the ramblings of a mad man. God knows what he tells the players nut if they listen to his press conferences, it explains a lot. The time has come....

  3. wordsrmagic2me

    Dec 15, 2010, 17:41 #262

    Maybe it's a good thing Arsenal finished second in their Champions League group. Judging by recent performances, this side doesn't have the quality, drive or belief to win against the big boys. Even if Arsenal escape the likes of Barcelona, Real Madrid, Manchester United or, dare I say it, Spurs in the next round, they will come up against one of them sooner or later. Let's be honest, the first two are in a different class and the we've already shown we can be beaten by the other two. Arsenal aren't good enough to be crowned the best in Europe this season so the sooner they get knocked out of the competition the better. Maybe then they can focus on trying to win the League.

  4. danalovAFCXI

    Dec 15, 2010, 11:47 #257

    Gonzalo Pizarro in 1541 led his troops on an expedition for El derado leading his troops deep into the Amazon basin with a promise of endless riches and timeless glory. He told his troops daily that gold was only over the hill and to keep going despite the mounting causalities and growing despair. Needless to say the Amazon got the better of them all and most of his troops perished when faced with disease and constant attack from local tribes. In short it was a disaster. I fear that Wenger is Arsenals very own Gonzalo Pizarro we follow him blindly with the convincing promises he makes and then end up in despair. Sorry for the pouncey metaphor by the way…

  5. Rob

    Dec 15, 2010, 11:19 #255

    As long as the stadium is full and we play Champagne football against the lower Premiership sides the board won't spend and nothing will change. The board are content to line their pockets. If fans stopped re-newing season tickets and stayed away in protest things would soon change. A half empty stadium would soon get them spending. I never thought I'd see the day when I questioned Wenger and be able to accept and expect defeat as routine against everyone but the whipping boys of the Permiership. Standards have slipped and I sense change is on the horizon.

  6. David H

    Dec 15, 2010, 10:59 #254

    We don't have any big players.... either in stature or actual size. Nasri apart this season who else has even shown any real desire? The other week I was looking at Denilson and thinking how good he was starting to look ... and that just about sums it up. I've got two season tickets that cost nearly £2500 a year ... top money where I come from and regardless of league position (which is flattering to deceive) it's about time we spent a few quid on the team with a backbone of players that know how to win because the club are charging top money to get in and running the team on the cheap. Today apparently we are not interested in Cahill of BOLTON....he's English so will probably show the wrong type of temperament eh! Mr Wenger.... he might actually talk back to you and ask that the defence communicates a bit in English... either show us some financial commitment Arsenal/Wenger or risk losing the die hard supporters who don't mind supporting a team thats not winning (Im certainly not a glory hunter) but really don't like getting mugged while it's happening with the constant crap that comes out of your mouth Mr Wenger.....The Games Up

  7. steve lockwood

    Dec 15, 2010, 10:29 #253

    Congratulations for a perfect analysis and "same old, same old" fits the bill. As you say went into this match with no confidence as MU have stronger team. AF does the business for the team AW does it for the balance sheet. Happy to come 2nd ok. If not AW has to go. Proven loser.

  8. jd

    Dec 15, 2010, 10:27 #252

    i have said before,wenger would not win anything major for arsenal again until he changes his policy or arsenal get a frank rijkaard.i dont know if its blind faith or what but when you have a situation like what exist in the squard or whereby most people can predict what will happen in a game and the manager thinks otherwise,then i think there is something wrong.

  9. Rob

    Dec 15, 2010, 10:27 #251

    When we need a bit of fight and drive, in the Ray Parlour mould,why on earth has he let Lansbury go to Norwich, when his drive and tackling ability is just what we need in front of sagna

  10. Jenaldo

    Dec 15, 2010, 10:13 #250

    So true man. If we cant win or even draw at Chelsea or Manu, then we cant win anything. Wenger has completely lost it and I think its time for a new manager who can match up to Fergie and Ancelotti.

  11. Robbie

    Dec 15, 2010, 10:05 #249

    The players dont live up to the billing, but neither does the manager. the last time wenger tried something different tactically was in the fa cup final against man utd, and guess what , we did not lose. Granted we had disaplined players then, which is the key , People talk about team pattern, and tactics, we dont have any other than leave wilshire in front of the back four and pray. The defence has come in for a lot of stick, the centre backs are not the class we would expect, they are both Grimandi's without the fight. but the rest of the team do not help. the 4 3 3 is not working and why has he neve given Arshavin a role behind the striker is a mystery . we need new ideas, be it a new coach or manager, and we need to get rid of many of the players RVP/ CESC/ ROSICKI/ DIABI/ would be a decent start none of them eithe play on a regualr basis and Cesc wants to warm the Barca bench It is not the winning of trophys that annoys me , its the knowing that we are not even competing for them 11 games withour a win against man utd or Chelsea is wrong,, we have only scored 5 goals in those games wake up Wenger we need to re draw the plan

  12. Dec 15, 2010, 10:01 #248

    sadly i have got to agree and the sooner Arsene stops living in la-la land the better for him and us. We don't have big game players but in order to compete at the top we need them. Arsene please use the cash pile. Who is he afraid of upsetting ? If squad is too big then get rid of some of them. We don't owe anyone a living so stop showing blind loyalty to underperformers

  13. fabulousgunner

    Dec 15, 2010, 10:00 #247

    i totally agree with all you have said and to hear the manager saying united were lucky to have won the match is disgusting, i would prefer him to have said the truth about their performance so that the players can put more effort in the subsequent games. I don't know why the crowd tat the emirate ground are not asking question and sincerely think a player like andrey should be drop to the bench. Somebody need to tell Mr wenger as failed with his decision to allow SONG a free role.

  14. Kanz

    Dec 15, 2010, 9:59 #246

    Bang on the money! Couldn't agree more.

  15. Wolfgang

    Dec 15, 2010, 9:41 #245

    Watching the game from Munich really hurt.Time and again the gunners are beaten . When will the winless sequence end?It will start with Wenger and end with him. That is why he is deluded if he thinks he can win the epl or cl with this bunch pf players.Actually Arsenal could have been challenging all these years if he had plug the gaps with experinced players .Instead the learned prof has signed kid after kid and loan them out. He has neglected the present for the future. His experiment with wonder kids has gone on too long without the payback expected.I am afraid all gooner fans have lost all faith in him unless he can hijack either the cl or epl .This is a long shot.

  16. KAYIZZI

    Dec 15, 2010, 9:36 #244

    Spot on mate. Wenger is fast losing the plot. He is consistently becoming inconsistent and incongruable in what he says let alone what his team delivers on the pitch.