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1. Darth Vela

   Dec 27, 2010, 19:42 #503

   Can't say I agree with much of that. The problems are pretty much all in the head with our players imo, if Wenger can't sort that out I agree that other managers should be looked at but calling it incompetence is pretty far from the mark. Firstly you're merely using other peoples opinions to back up your own, it doesn't matter how many numbers you use, opinions don't change into facts; as it happens I think our problems with Kos-Squill is down to both of them being new to the Prem rather than incompetence in not buying first choice players. Secondly, Cesc doesn't imply anything of the kind in that article, we've had troubles with injuries in the past and we introduced that GPS thingummy which seems to have helped as out injuries have been less this season than most. Thirdly, that financial page of yours shows diddly squat, all it does is take the money spent and put it against trophies won, inc. CC/Community Shields and in Liverpools case, the Super Cup. It leaves out so much nuance or even just common sense that even if you think that is any way a usable stat, fair enough but most reasonable people won't, I'm afraid.

2. Darth Vela

   Dec 23, 2010, 20:59 #479

   Can't say I agree with much of that. The problems are pretty much all in the head with our players imo, if Wenger can't sort that out I agree that other managers should be looked at but calling it incompetence is pretty far from the mark. Firstly you're merely using other peoples opinions to back up your own, it doesn't matter how many numbers you use, opinions don't change into facts; as it happens I think our problems with Kos-Squill is down to both of them being new to the Prem rather than incompetence in not buying first choice players. Secondly, Cesc doesn't imply anything of the kind in that article, we've had troubles with injuries in the past and we introduced that GPS thingummy which seems to have helped as out injuries have been less this season than most. Thirdly, that financial page of yours shows diddly squat, all it does is take the money spent and put it against trophies won, inc. CC/Community Shields and in Liverpools case, the Super Cup. It leaves out so much nuance or even just common sense that even if you think that is any way a usable stat, fair enough but most reasonable people won't, I'm afraid.

3. Eldridge

   Dec 22, 2010, 12:50 #454

   Martin O'Neill's looking for a job - a man with a proven track record of improving young (often English) players. I know it would be hard on AW now that he's put the building blocks in place but I really think O'Neill would take the team (rather than the club - leave that to Gazidis) to another level.

4. chris dee

   Dec 22, 2010, 10:02 #432

   Nah!Cobblers! Wenger is not incompetent.If he is incompetent then 95% of other clubs would love to have such incompetence. We all knew that building the new stadium was gonna cost us in terms of big money signings for a while.It needed an gifted manager who could not only keep us in the Champions League,where the big dosh is,but also do it without spending millions like Utd,City,The Old Pensioners and the Lillywhite's. My only beef with Wenger is his reluctance to play or coach a more defensive system when it is required,defensive incompetence if you like.We are not that good that we can attack for 90 mins of every game.Defensive incompetence like the second half against Spurs,the 3 goals conceded at home against WBA and the last second equalising goal by Sunderland.Where would we be now with an extra 7 points? The 'no trophies for 5 years' monkey on our backs could also have been avoided with stronger teams put out in the Carling and F A Cups over the last 5 years.An F A Cup or Carling Cup win would have relieved the pressure and also given the Club ,the players and the fans a massive boost and more confidence playing for the bigger trophies. Maybe this year.................?

5. Joshua

   Dec 22, 2010, 8:59 #431

   You say that the current medical team are "incapable".... how would you know? Are you a physiotherapist or do you specialise in Sports medicine? I only ask because too many fans on the internet make huge sweeping claims for things for which they have absolutely no competence. Have you been to London Colney to actually assess the work that's done there by the medical staff? Or are you just posting stuff that you "FEEL"...

6. Jim 1989

   Dec 21, 2010, 19:47 #429

   Sadly the truth hurts the AKB's.They use every excuse under the sun rather than blame the manager.When we were winning trophies Wenger was happy to take the praise but any criticism is not allowed.Wenger buys the players Wenger picks the team.The buck stops with him.Nothing sums up the stupidity of the man than his backing of the two clowns Fabianski and Almunia.Time for the AKB bridgade to stop burying their heads in the sand.We want our Arsenal back

7. ppp

   Dec 21, 2010, 19:09 #428

   I didn't know the gooner was printing articles by spurs fans these days? Stop moaning you sky tv watching, tottenham supporting, football hating moron. Who cares who you think would be in some other side! What are you even focusing on the Mancs and the Chavs for?? Arsenal have a good team and we need to get it together - the real fans will get behind the players and stop banging on about them being "inferior" despite the fact that they aren't. All of Arsenal's players are well capable. The writer of this article is a Tottenham sleeper. Ignore him.

8. dan

   Dec 21, 2010, 18:00 #427

   well said,you have absolutely told nothing but the gods honest truth.

9. The Happening

   Dec 21, 2010, 17:20 #426

   Our trophy haul hasn't exactly been plentiful during the last few years, but there was a mantle, a sense of pride about AFC which messrs Vieira et al carried with them, I believe and hope that this was instilled in them by the club: coach,trainers, staff etc. How come this has been unidentifiable during recent years?? Where is that dogged, grit faced determination?? I remember the FA cup, the last thing we won, pretty horrible game but we won, right?? We are a financially stable, almost self-sustaining(?) football club, a bank managers dream in other words, in contrast, if we're lucky, we'll WIN the CC!! I wonder if this is all a subliminal mind-trick to erase ranting supporters like me from the footballing landscape? thus nurturing a new generation @the E******* full of clapping humanoids cheering on the sideways passing!! I do agree with certain points regarding the staff and manager in this article and I'm glad that there ARE supporters out there analyzing the goings-on in such a way, I just hope that there are some key changes addressing those points mentioned!!

10. Ron

    Dec 21, 2010, 15:56 #425

    The AKB's who back Wenger always go back to pre 2005 to back up their arguement.Suitably forgetting the last 5 years.Wenger knows fuck all about keepers and Cb's.His faith in crap like Eboue Denilson Diaby Bendtner and Vels is just blind faith.To have £56m to spend and not spend it is rank bad management.Wenger keeps saying judge him in May,we do but he still doesnt learn from his mistakes.As for who can replace him Rijkard and Hiddink to name but two

11. faroegooner

    Dec 21, 2010, 15:00 #424

    Well, if Wenger walk away, who to replace him?

12. Steve Nash

    Dec 21, 2010, 14:00 #423

    I woke up last Thursday morning to a shocking realisation - I was no longer an AKB. Sadly,I am now an Arsene Used to Know Best. Don't get me wrong, I shall always be grateful to AW for the transformation that he has worked at our club, with comparatively meagre funds (although I tried that line with a Macclesfield Town supporter and soon found myself running out of steam!). The reasons for my change of heart are as follows: 1 Failure to effectively strengthen key areas of the team (I won't list them; everyone knows where they are - apart from AW that is) 2 Failure to improve on coaching and medical staff (again points made countless times elsewhere) 3 Tactical ineptitude and lack of flexibility. How many times has he made a match changing substitution? Q Why did he bring Theo on against a ManU team who were defending so deep it was untrue? Theo's game is all about getting behind a defence. A Because he'd decided which substitutions to make before the game started and didn't like to change his mind. 4 No succession planning. Perhaps it's not in AW's best interests but Ivan Gazidis should insist that plans are put in place to replace him when he eventually goes. As I say, it really pains me to say this but it's time for the great man to go (away from the club and not "upstairs" where I believe he would be a disruptive influence).

13. faroegooner

    Dec 21, 2010, 13:48 #422

    I do not agree with you dear gooner about Wenger. The Medical team Im not able to have a meaning about. I guess some players are simply not strong enough, simply cant cope with the fysik off the game, just a thougth. I think we have the best manager. And god help us, when Wenger call it a day.Big time help!! God?1

14. Clive

    Dec 21, 2010, 12:13 #421

    Tell us what you would do from now that are practical and affordable, would boost the existing good players and help us win trophies. Also tell us how you are competent in your daily life and give us some confidence in you. Two things - we are second in the league, hindsight is a wonderful thing. Happy to hear valid criticisms of AW (eg he needs help on coaching defensive solidity (and possibly new personnel) and changing tactices during a game), just bored with the same over-the-top judgements from people that show they are likely to be w*nkers in real life. Which spark OTT over-reactions back in support of AW.

15. Darth Vela

    Dec 21, 2010, 11:59 #420

    Can't say I agree with much of that. The problems are pretty much all in the head with our players imo, if Wenger can't sort that out I agree that other managers should be looked at but calling it incompetence is pretty far from the mark. Firstly you're merely using other peoples opinions to back up your own, it doesn't matter how many numbers you use, opinions don't change into facts; as it happens I think our problems with Kos-Squill is down to both of them being new to the Prem rather than incompetence in not buying first choice players. Secondly, Cesc doesn't imply anything of the kind in that article, we've had troubles with injuries in the past and we introduced that GPS thingummy which seems to have helped as out injuries have been less this season than most. Thirdly, that financial page of yours shows diddly squat, all it does is take the money spent and put it against trophies won, inc. CC/Community Shields and in Liverpools case, the Super Cup. It leaves out so much nuance or even just common sense that even if you think that is any way a usable stat, fair enough but most reasonable people won't, I'm afraid.

16. kingofbhutan

    Dec 21, 2010, 11:49 #419

    give me 5 reasons why anelka is better than bendtner(he's an okay player but wenger doesn't know how to use him)wenger should train him how to cross and then he can be played wide to add width.song is the most overrated arsenal player Iam sure SAF or ANCELOTTI wouldn't need him even on the bench. I hope the rating of ramsey is based on age coz he's the biggest thing ever to happen to the PL since GERRARD. NO CM at manu will stand up to him when he matures. the only 20yr old PL cm near his grade is herderson.

17. French Gooner

    Dec 21, 2010, 11:29 #418

    Incompetence? He took us from trouble to premiership glory. He brought a lot of silverware and kept the club under no financial threat ever and kept us at the top of club football. Doubts came when plastic clubs shelled out 100s of millions to essentially beat us (near half a billion for Chelsea to eventually beat us) and yet none are at our level of success. Yes the last five years sucked but we were still up there and despite no financial muscle we kept very close to the clubs that would be kicked out of the league if there were financial control. Wenger is the best for us and lose your faith at your own peril as Arsenal will never be a boing plastic club were mercenaries like Rooney and tevez make the rule. In Wenger I trust!