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Why take 90 minutes when you can do it in 180?

Bendtner and Chamakh: Will both start on Saturday?


The failure to kill off Leyton Orient in the first game of this 5th Round FA Cup tie was not without cost… to season ticket holders. With seven home cup ties (excluding the Carling Cup) paid for in advance on the season ticket, before this replay, six had been used up. Let’s say Arsenal get through against Barcelona (yeah, I know, but just bear with me). There would be an eighth home cup game (this one at Grade A prices). The cheapest adult season ticket holder in the lower tier will be paying £49 extra to watch this game. If Arsenal had beaten Orient at the first time of asking, they would have already paid for the match as part of their season ticket fee. Assuming that Arsenal do not make the last eight in Europe, a £33 discount on their 2011/12 season ticket has been denied. All because of the arrogance displayed at Brisbane Road the weekend before last. The players tried marginally harder last night and it made a hell of a difference on the scoresheet. But their complacency the Sunday before the Wembley calamity has cost supporters dear either way.

However, even if they had taken a financial hit, many gold members were not interested in attending this replay. I would estimate that out of 45,000 season ticket holders, 20,000 did not take their seats last night. The true figure for attendance was around 40,000. Certainly at least one in three seats was vacant and possibly even more. Fortunately, the game was a technical sell out because more Orient fans attended last night than were able to see the drawn game in the flesh. 9,000 of them turned up. Although the prospect of a trip to Old Trafford probably had them salivating, this, in reality, was very much their cup final and a lot of discounted ticket pricing meant it was affordable for them. So having taken up 15% of the capacity, it left Arsenal with 6,000 tickets to sell. They managed it by putting the game on general sale pretty damn quick, although if this had been an optional game for season ticket holders, they would have only filled it by charging Carling Cup prices.

It meant I was able to select one of many pews near the front of the upper tier on the halfway line, then move round to the end Arsenal were attacking in the second half to sit with some pals I bumped into at half time. It was the freedom of the E******s, although gatecrashing club level is not as easy as simply seeing an empty seat and sitting in it these days. The club have wised up to that one.

The game? Well, I don’t have much to report on that. Arsenal did what they should have first time round with only two changes to the starting line-up. Connor Henderson replaced Arshavin and Abou Diaby came in for Alex Song. The most alarming thing was Emmanuel Eboue’s positional defending. Totally atrocious. Orient’s best chances came down his flank. As a right back he has regressed a long way since 2005-06. Then again, as many a game this campaign has proved, Arsenal don’t really do defence a lot of the time. Gael Clichy is not strong positionally either. If trophies are to be won, this really needs addressing. The concept of simply outscoring the opposition may give them a shout if they can keep their best attacking players fit, but we all know that isn’t going to happen.

Some of the squad that turned out last night will be utilized in the run-in. I have stated before that the only competition Arsenal have a real chance in now is the Premier League. Alex Ferguson will field a strong enough team to take care of the quarter final at home. You won’t see some of the names that started against Crawley Town, such as Bebe and Obertan. It will be a mix and match team that demonstrates United have better back up than Wenger. As for Tuesday next week in Barcelona, the only real question is how many Barca will get. You could see Arsenal nicking one, but it won’t be enough. Accept, sit back and enjoy the football. I will.

However, there is a genuine chance in the league. The key will be Fabregas remaining fit once he returns and Robin van Persie returning to the fray before too long and critically finding his form immediately once he does. The fixture list in the league has been kind in that the next three weeks sees Arsenal only play twice and face opposition that they are capable of beating without being 100% full strength. If they are incapable of beating Sunderland at home and West Brom away, then frankly, the team have no right to be considered genuine contenders. These are the meat and drink games that fans shouldn’t be thinking twice about. However, such a glorious opportunity has been provided that many a fan is concerned we will even beat Steve Bruce’s side at home. Arsenal don’t tend to react well these days when a chance is presented to them on a silver platter, such as the prospect of beating relegation contenders on a decent neutral playing surface to land a first trophy for six seasons.

I am sorry to not be optimistic about the current team, but it’s like love affairs. When you have been burned too often, you go into the next one knowing what’s ahead. There is always the hope at the back of your mind that it won’t turn bad in the end, that this is the one, and that’s why you keep coming back for more. But ask yourself this. Would the team of 2002-04 have had you even contemplating they would fail to beat Sunderland and West Brom when there was a title to go for? That team, I think, may have been the love of my football life. It’s been downhill ever since, and the attempt to recapture the glory days has been painful. I admit I have lost faith, a feeling certainly not helped by events last Sunday. Although I felt I was over it by Monday, the pain has actually lingered on. The players let us down as Birmingham showed more desire and commitment. Wenger’s men play with a belief that technical quality is enough. But not enough of them are made of the right stuff.

I so hope I can write on 23rd May with my face covered in egg and a microwaved hat on a plate in front of me. I really do because I want my team to win things. It is so possible from this point, their destiny totally in their own hands. It’s certainly the reason I would prefer to see a stronger selection face Sunderland than Barcelona and would have no issue with, on this occasion, Wenger throwing the FA Cup at Old Trafford with a half-baked team selection. People have to realize that those who have lost the faith state their doubts because they do care, not because they get any pleasure from doing so. In 2008 and 2010 the team had a great chance of success in the league, but were without key players at the business end of the season (Van Persie and - last season - Fabregas as well as key defenders, and others). It’s where your back up men come in and do a job. In the four seasons of five trophies, it was the likes of Edu, Parlour, Luzhny, Grimandi, Wiltord, Kanu and Keown that came in and did the business. When Arsenal won the title at Old Trafford in 2002, they did so without utilising Henry, Bergkamp, Adams and Pires.

In developing Project Youth some key ingredients have been left out of the mix – chiefly, knowhow and character. I hope that this group of players proves me wrong, get some big results and go on to win the title this season. It is certainly there for the taking, no doubt about that. With so much money sitting in the bank the manager has left himself open to some justified criticism if his squad fail to deliver from this point, given the 11 fixtures that remain this season.

I am sorry I cannot write a nice fluffy piece about how good it was to stuff a League One side at home by five goals. But many fans demonstrated last night that they are simply not that interested. It was a case of job done and about time too. I’ve expressed what is on my mind this morning, given air to the gnawing doubt that things are going to go pear-shaped as they have in the past and that the club are treading water without serious ambitions to do anything but ensure the value of Arsenal Holdings PLC as a commodity continues to grow. I conveyed the view last night to more than one acquaintance that Arsenal is well set up and ready to go places. It’s like a rocket primed to take off into outer space. However, it needs a different philosophy at the level of the boardroom and in the dugout.

Prove me wrong Messrs Gazidis, Kroenke, Fiszman and Wenger. Please.

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  1. Simon

    Mar 04, 2011, 12:48 #2866

    Another great editorial. Agree with every word.

  2. bunch

    Mar 04, 2011, 11:38 #2862

    Like you a bit pee'd off with using up the last ST cup game for Orient when we should have dealt with them at Brisbane Road. If we beat Barca, it'll be top dollar for the QF. I can't see the club cutting season ticket holders some slack on that but if we get a draw at OT they should really consider giving STs that game for free. They know how many ST just couldn't be botehred on Wednesday, they must realise it is something of a rip-off for us. Time for the season ticket to be EPL only - but I am dreaming becasue why should they do that. As far as Wednesday night goes I thought it was a useful run-out after Sunday's humiliation both for players and those fans that bothered to turn up. I have got a lot of the negativity I was feeling for the team out of my system by turning up to a game I didn't really want to go to and freezing my ass off. Well done Bendy, two trademark goals from him.

  3. dan

    Mar 04, 2011, 0:16 #2853

    a cracking write WELL BLOODY SAID kev.still i see alot of mugs down below,IF THEY CAN'T WIN THE CARLING CUP AGAINST BIRMINGHAM,what makes you think they can do it it against barca,united,oh and united,arsenal bottlers football club we are now known as.

  4. Ian McCarthy

    Mar 03, 2011, 22:54 #2851

    The reason we won't win the League is because we simply don't play well enough when we haven't got the ball. We don't press, close down, tackle or defend set pieces as we should. A team reflects it's manager and it is he who makes the players believe that technical quality is enough.

  5. Never Outgunned

    Mar 03, 2011, 21:39 #2844

    Colin - If people weren't so quick to pay stupid money to watch football then shit players couldn't command stupid wages in the first place. You don't have to be an Adam Smith or a Milton Friedman to work that one out!

  6. GoonerRon

    Mar 03, 2011, 21:34 #2842

    Holy shit you need to be on suicide watch. The tone of your blogs is generally on the glass half empty side but the sheer negativity of 'Alex Ferguson will field a strong enough team to take care of the quarter final at home' and 'the only real question is how many Barca will get' is absolutely untrue. What the Carling Cup final should teach us (apart from whack into row Z, Koscielny) is that you don't have to be the favourite to win a football match. We still have a cracking chance of going through in both competitions. Wenger and this team / squad are far from perfect, but to dismiss two competitions like you have here is unbelievably laughable.

  7. Trevor

    Mar 03, 2011, 18:01 #2821

    How did we lose the Carling cup final?The only way Birmingham could beat us was at set pieces and long balls to giant Zigic.So what did Wenger do to combat it?Nothing.Because he doesnt care about the opposition's strengths.Thats why our back four our so shit at defending set pieces.We dont work on them.We need a defensive coach brought in because Wenger hasnt a clue about defending.George Graham made Dixon Winterburn Adams and Bould the greatest back 4 ever through practicing and even more practice.How many times this season has Clichy played someone onside because he has lost concentration.Would a GG team ever have lost a 4 goal lead

  8. 6ooner Pete

    Mar 03, 2011, 17:25 #2819

    I agree with you Kevin. Article spot on.Just because some of us disagree with Wenger and some of his decisions doesn't mean we don't love the club, but I've thought like this for years.I started to doubt Wenger more than usual when he failed to replace Flamini. Hardly the greatest player we ever had but he needed replacing and we faffed around and didn't buy anyone. Wenger seemed to me then to have lost the plot and his decisions since then have got more and more bizarre. When we used to watch Arsenal years ago, even when they were crap, there were always players you could relate to and would wish to meet. Very few of this team fit that description. Few inspire me or give me that feeling you should get between team and supporter. Trouble Arsenal is in your blood. You can't not go despite it costing a bloody fortune!! We need more players like Jack Wilshere. Give Ramsey a game FFS. He is far better than Denilson Diaby Rosicky and Song put together! And get in a DEFENSIVE coach. Bring back George Graham as a defensive coach and he would soon stop the ridiculous mistakes, particularly at dead ball situations!!!!!! Premiership is in our hands now. If we win every game it's ours. Simple! Three wins gives us the cup! Trouble is it ain't going to happen. Like you Kevin I would love to see the team prove us wrong.

  9. DB10

    Mar 03, 2011, 17:18 #2818

    Would the team of 2002-04 have had you even contemplating they would fail to beat Sunderland and West Brom when there was a title to go for? Too bloody right it did! Have you forgotten Kolo’s calamity at the villa? Throwing away a 2 goal lead at Bolton? I wish I could but I haven’t. The team that you so rightly wax lyrical about and was the best Arsenal team I’ve ever seen were cantering, playing majestic football this time in 2003 (4 nil at Maine Road after 20 mins anyone!) and we ****ed it up! and we only squeezed past sheff utd in the semi of the cup due to spunky’s wonder save. The Invincibles were incredible but we all know that year was the chance to win the big cup but we lost against an inferior Chelsea team. Even 1999 (the single most traumatic season I’ve ever witnessed) would have turned out completely differently had dennis not taken a shite penalty. This is not to criticize those fantastic players and probably the greatest side in the division’s history but to demonstrate that even great players have and did screw it up as badly as Koscielny, Clichy………….. We may not win anything again this season but what I am sure of is that the constant criticism and negativity won’t help the team.

  10. Pires' Goatee

    Mar 03, 2011, 16:49 #2817

    First para pretty much sums up your kind of fan, Whitcher...

  11. Colin

    Mar 03, 2011, 15:59 #2816

    Never Outgunned i am not a season ticket holder but dont forget those who are and who pay a grand upwards for them are paying Shite like Eboue Denilshit and Bender their fucking wages.The club is all about the fans not overpaid players.Never forget that

  12. Jon Rawlings

    Mar 03, 2011, 15:25 #2814

    How do you get out of bed in the morning? Go and support a team doing better than Arsenal this season, like Chelsea, Man City or Liverpool. All of whom, incidentally, Arsenal are outperforming without wracking up 100s of millions in unsustainable debt. I've got news for you, every club has its problems, but Arsenal has fewer than most.

  13. danluvsafc

    Mar 03, 2011, 13:25 #2811

    Totally agree with you Kev.Our best chance is the premiership this season and this is because it is in our own hands.I too would quite happily sacrafice the champions league to see us get our hands on the title.In the knockout stages of cup competitions in recent seasons we have hardly covered ourselves in glory.Lets hope that alot of us that are doubting M.Wenger are proved wrong.Please god!!!!

  14. Londoner

    Mar 03, 2011, 13:22 #2810

    No chance of beating Barcelona. We can't even beat Birmingham!

  15. Never Outgunned

    Mar 03, 2011, 13:21 #2809

    Why did it take 180 minutes to do Orient? Well home advantage for Orient in the first game, a unique environment coupled by the fact that even two divisions below, a side that has gone 20 matches unbeaten isn't going to roll over that quickly. So the season ticket holders have to pay a bit extra - fuck 'em. The reason they have these very sought after season tickets is their ability to stump up a four figure sum in the first place - something the rest of us aren't able to do. And they can't even be bothered to turn up against Orient! If they want sympathy they should look it up in the dictionary. I believe it's somewhere between shit and syphillis.

  16. Stevearsenal

    Mar 03, 2011, 12:59 #2808

    Kev,as always, you are spot on. Not negative...just realistic, measured and courteous. It's also nice to see someone who can spell. We Gooners are generally an educated lot. But AbbsMan, you need to get rid of your spellckeck. It ain't working mate.

  17. Mar 03, 2011, 12:35 #2806

    thanks Kevin - thoughtful piece. I quite agree with the sentiment that once bitten, twice shy. I find these fans the rant on that we should be relentlessly positive about the club and manager deranged fools. However I am always intrigued to hear their opinions because that why I surf Arsenal blogs – not just to hear my own views. Personally I believe the club has let the fans down the last few years by not addressing glaring errors in the squad. After all defending and defenders are the 'easy' and cheaper element to address compared to finding exciting, creative midfield (which we have). I honestly believe if we'd had a couple of proper defenders and a keeper we'd have won a couple of cups and titles this past five years. It's being this close to success that is so infuriating when there is money in the bank for these affordable elements.

  18. Gooner Ray

    Mar 03, 2011, 11:41 #2805

    Great article Kevin.How gullible are some of our fans who think beating Orient 5-0 means we are back on track.Forgetting what happened at Wembley 3 days earlier.The biggest condemnation of last night was how the fuck did we let Orient get a draw in the first game.They were truly awful.Since the game i have read articles saying Chamakh and Bender are the answer it must be a fucking stupid question then.And Gibbs and Clichy should play down the left together.Do these people dress themselves? So its on to OT and a repeat of 2008.Wenger will play the same team as last night and Fergie will play a strong team and we will be out.Its so fucking predictable

  19. William P

    Mar 03, 2011, 11:29 #2804

    Kev.you are totally right about Eboue the plank was on permanent absence without leave last night.Has he a defensive bone in his body.Against a division one side he was shite.What does he bring to the team other than wave to the crowd.Nothing sums up what is wrong with our club than this clown.We've only come to see Eboue no we fucking havent

  20. Osi

    Mar 03, 2011, 11:13 #2803

    Mr. Whitcher I usually don't agree with your opinions, but today I totally am in agreement with you on this feeling: "I am sorry to not be optimistic about the current team, but it’s like love affairs. When you have been burned too often, you go into the next one knowing what’s ahead" And also strongly agree with this statement: "Wenger’s men play with a belief that technical quality is enough." There are lot of emotions and feelings in this article. I similarly want to see this team win the PL and sacrifice everything thing else if it seems to compromise that the realisation of that ambition.

  21. Bobby

    Mar 03, 2011, 10:59 #2801

    Jesus Christ mate, you need to liven up a bit...I was happy until I read this post...

  22. HowardL

    Mar 03, 2011, 10:51 #2799

    I agree with you Kev. In 'Business Speak' Objectives have to be SMART - Specific, Measurable, Achievable, Realistic and Timed. Ugh, but to target 4 trophies with such a fragile squad might have been theoretically Achievable but it was never Realistic. Having missed out on the easiest, to target the remaining 3 with that squad further depleted and away games at Manure and Barca to come again borders on the fatuous. I'd love to see us to it but realistically only the Premier League fits all SMART criteria, so I too think that's where our (unnecessarily) limited resources should be targetted. And it would be great if we did it. A second honeymoon.

  23. Chris

    Mar 03, 2011, 10:47 #2798

    If Wenger and the board don't show more ambition in the transfer market when the financial fair play rules come in, then we have a problem. Surely the club is set up to maximise its financial position (in terms of debt levels and money available for playing staff) when these rules come in? That's when the money will be worth most. If they don't start strengthening then, I'll be very surprised and your pessimism will be justifed. Taking a broader view makes things not seem nearly as bad or frustrating as you're making out.....

  24. Goonerdad

    Mar 03, 2011, 10:45 #2797

    Some people are never happy - i enjoyed your piece until the para about Barca and how many they will score. Football is, as is often said, a funny old game - lets just enjoy the football as you say but hold our judgements until the game is over.

  25. AugustusCaesar

    Mar 03, 2011, 10:35 #2796

    Crikey. My soul just died a little bit. Can't say I agree with the FA Cup ****uation. I think we have a very good chance of winning this trophy. It's possibly our best chance for silverware mainly because of one detail you've neglected to mention. Our champions league second leg comes BEFORE the quarter final, Man Utd's is AFTER. Both teams will rest players of course but Man U play Marseille on the Tuesday after the FA cup. They will have very much a second string side and one eye firmly on that game. With our next game at West Brom on the Saturday depending on the recovery from the Barca game Wenger may fancy throwing in one or two of his first teamers. Something tells me we're due to win there in any case. With only Man City the only real strong team left in the competition it's a trophy we can win. Plus, the players will have the experience (albeit a losing one) of recently playing at Wembley.

  26. Steve

    Mar 03, 2011, 10:15 #2793

    59,000. Are you fucking joking?.Well done Craig Burley for pulling up his co-commentator who said the crowd was 59,000.For too long the club have been taking the piss when it comes to announcing attendence figures.Why cant the club just be honest and tell us how many fans actually attended the game.Just look at the rows and rows of empty seats.Next season the ST should just include the league games.This rip off has too stop

  27. AbbsMan

    Mar 03, 2011, 10:15 #2792

    My God!! I am so bored of reading all of these pesimistic, depressing blogsd that keep appearing. Why do you bother supporting Arsenal if you genuinly feel this way? So we lost the Carling cup final and This still hurts you? Sorry for your pain. We just qualified for the quarter finals of the FA cup and this does not please you? Sorry for your emptyness. I genuinly feel for you, still in 3 cups and still playing beautiful football and you are still not satisfied... I pray you are not coming to Barcelona with us.. and if you are I pray even harder you do not sit next to me. I could not bear hearing you whine the whole 90 minutes. Last night I was sat infront of two plastic fans, moaning about bentdner how poor he is.. 60 minues later they are singing his name and claiming they always loved him. Please forward me your number so i can hook you three up. Match made in heaven!!