Dr. Arsene-stein and the fountain of eternal youth

We are paying for the experiments at Castle Colney



Dr. Arsene-stein and the fountain of eternal youth

Mad scientist let loose in the kitchen


What do you do with yourself after you've coached a team like the Invincibles to an unprecedented unbeaten season? Must make you feel good about yourself mustn't it? Like you could achieve well, almost anything?

What do you do with yourself after you've coached players like Bergkamp, Henry, Pires, Adams, Vieira, Seaman, Ljungberg, Anelka, Petit, Wright, Parlour, Keown, Dixon, Kanu and Wiltord and won numerous trophies with them? There really must be very little you feel that you haven't seen or done in the game except, that is, for winning the Champions League or gambling a club’s entire future at the top level on your own ability to create your very own Bergkamp, Henry or Pires from scratch. Arsene Wenger very nearly won the Champions League in 2006, but by then he was also already totally committed to his other grand scheme of creating a team of superstars from scratch and dominating Europe for years to come.

What in the world would you say when your Chairman, Vice Chairman and Board come to you with a proposal to build a state-of-the-art stadium based almost entirely on your ability to nurture and develop young footballers and ensure that they consistently qualify for the Champions League? Only Arsene Wenger - at least to my very limited knowledge - has been offered both the challenge and opportunity to develop a young squad on a very limited budget based on his ability to get them into the Champions League every single season in order to pay off the debts on a state-of-the-art 60,000 all-seater stadium.

When you say it out loud it all seems rather absurd, doesn't it? It was a match made in heaven for both the Board and for Wenger. He must have seemed like a godsend to our old Board. Here appears, from almost total obscurity, like a thunderbolt from the blue, this Frenchman with a very good track record building steadily at the club and he has enough confidence in his own coaching ability that he was willing to say that the move to Ashburton Grove was financially viable because he didn't need a huge amount of money in transfer fees to be successful. And by successful, he and the Board meant Champions League qualification, of course.

The share price rose steadily higher and higher while investment in the playing squad was only required if Champions League qualification was ever in serious doubt. Make no mistake about it: if Arsenal had been looking comfortable in their bid for Champions League qualification then Arshavin would never have been bought. It was a panic buy.

The whole stadium move was a dream come true for Arsene Wenger, a smokescreen, a ready-made excuse to hide behind if it all went tits up. It gave him complete freedom to do what he loves to do, what he wants to do and how he obviously wants to go about it, and if he succeeded he would go down in history as one of the greatest football managers of all time. What we are all witnessing, like a terrible accident that we cannot prevent, is one man’s dream that is rapidly turning into some kind of insidious recurring nightmare for all of us.

The reality of this nightmare situation is that the Board created a Frankenstein's monster and not a footballing doctor (or even a professor for that matter) when they signed up for the Ashburton Grove project because, in doing so, they signed up for a new stadium, increased matchday revenue, an increased share price and Dr. Arsene-stein's fountain of eternal youth project all at the very same time.They all went hand in hand.

The problem for us fans is that the directors and shareholders that signed us all up for Dr. Arsene-stein's project have all, to a man and woman, sold their shares off for a massive profit and left us at the mercy of an American sports tycoon who we really don't know much about at all. We don't really know what Silent Stan's agenda is and it looks as if he is going to persevere with the current methodology which, as we all know, is by no means guaranteed to bring us trophies.

We will no doubt be exposed to the horrors of more failed experiments in our first team like Almunia, Denilson, Eboue, Diaby and Bendtner and we will be forced to watch as our better players get so sick of the mediocrity around them that they just pack up their snoods and leave.

Just as we are going through this current transfer saga with Cesc Fabregas, we could very well be going through a carbon copy situation with Jack Wilshere or Aaron Ramsey in a few years’ time. How are Wilshere and Ramsey going to react to being the shining lighthouses amid a sea of mediocrity? Will they stick around while obvious deficiencies in the squad are papered over with bargain basement signings and whatever gems the youth system manages to unearth? I don't think that they will, and it's not beyond the realms of possibility that when they are 23 or 24 we will be in exactly the same situation with them. Mr. Kroenke might then be tempted to take the untold millions he will undoubtedly be offered for their services at some point.

What a scam! Keep on with the eternal youth policy where the average age of the team never seems to increase, all the while flirting with the top prizes, then selling off our best players as soon as replacements roll off the production line and rinse and repeat ad infinitum. If we are not careful, we could see our team slip irreversibly into what the once mighty Ajax have now become, A club that has one of the best youth systems in the world but is for all intents and purposes a selling club that is not going to win the Champions League anytime soon, if ever at all.

We were sold a big lie. We were told that this Stadium move was going to allow us to compete financially with Europe’s elite, and the people who sold us that lie are no longer at the club and either they or their families are the richer for it. We are left with the monster that they helped create and an unknown quantity in Stan Kroenke who, for the moment at least, looks as if he is happy to see if their Arsene-stein monster can win silverware with the little monsters that he has created at Castle Colney or bought at the footballing equivalent of Primark.


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  1. Loyal since 1980

    May 05, 2011, 15:10 #6256

    I have watched some dire football in my time, the early 80's, GG team from 92 onwards, and some of this tippy tappy football with no cutting egde, but the issue that really upsets me is that we are asked to pay near a thousand pounds to watch this ****! I will renew my season ticket, because I am a mug....... I mean fan! Now if the price was 5-6 hundred quid for the cheapest, adult, non concessionary ticket then fine, but near a thousand pounds, watching the likes of denilson, eboue, bentner.... you know the one's I mean and every season our best players wanting to leave....this is what upsets me, the most expensive 'cheapest' season ticket in Europe, if that makes any sense!

  2. Joe Fitzpatrick

    May 05, 2011, 13:06 #6243

    Mandy Dodd- yawn, so if you question the board or Wenger you are then a spurs Fan? Yawn. A Spurs Fan who will be renewing his season tickets at an increased cost and who has spent over £150 on Brand new Arsenal clobber? Amazing how all these Spurs fans are pouring their cash into the club isn't it?

  3. Richard Ansell

    May 05, 2011, 12:34 #6232

    Mandy Dodd - for pitys sake wake up. We are all Arsenal through and through and are voicing genuine concerns at the way Wenger is running our beloved club.

  4. fozzys mate

    May 05, 2011, 9:47 #6214

    Apols jekyll it should have said 2009 rather than 2000 and yes he was being interviewed about the prospects for the future. My problem with Terry and also Bob Wilson is that they have disappeared up the managers rear so far they cannot critically analyse. A lot of ex players from the GG and Weng era are more critical but get short shrift!

  5. gabzevo

    May 05, 2011, 8:21 #6212

    complete and utter disrespect to refer to our manager as a monster is just sad for a man to do what he has done for our club even in this his(and ours) worst and most fustraiting season , he has not doen that bad if u take a step out of the gloom bubble , i'm still - very proud that in a really diapointing season , we made a final and pushed till the end , i think peeps are over reacting because we came so close and it hurts , but to go and disrespect arguably our greatest ever manager , is just not fair on him and our supporters there is really no reason for that , it is because of him that we are considered a top 10 side in europe probably top 8 and that is no small feat before Wenger lets be honest , we were not considered a top european club and dont tell em about Graham winning a European cup, if Wenger took the team to the Europa Cup , he would prob win , but that means he would finish outside top for and people would ask him to be sacked , so before we all jump on the band wagon of disresepcting the manager , please take a step back and see what he has done and is continueing to do , let me ask u this WHO DO U THINK HURTS THE MOST THIS SEASON ? WHO HAS MADE THIS THERE LIFE ? when any critic of him has achieved even a fraction of his success (ESP pundits and failed managers ...Alam Curbishly...that have won nothing seem to be his biggest critcs)can we please be reasonable and not overly emmotional , PLEASE we all LOVE ARSENAL ... and SO DOES WENGER i dont think he has done bad enough to be lumbusted with all the name calling and direspect , and i believe when he realises he is no longer good for the club he will step down.... BUT U CAN NOT ARGUE THAT WENEGER'S HEART IS NOT IN THE RIGHT PLACE we will win and we are closer than ever COME ON U GOONERS LETS UNITE AND SHOW THE WORLD WHY WE ARE THE BEST FOOTBALL CLUB IN MORE WAYS THAN ONE !!!!!!

  6. Jekyll

    May 05, 2011, 1:31 #6211

    Sorry, fozzys mate, Terry Neill in 2000 said that? He was sacked in 1983. Do you mean he was interviewed in 2000 about his career, or opinion on the then current Arsenal squad? Am confused.

  7. LeoGooner

    May 04, 2011, 22:49 #6208

    Spot on Judge. A big part of the wenger cult is "who could possibly replace him" and the "top clubs in europe will snap him up". bollox. His next job, if we ever get shot of him, will probably be in France, maybe the national team. No way could he take on a barca or madrid or milan, where he would have a real boss above him. As for replacing him, AKBs can't have it both ways. If we are in as good a state as they say we are, then why wouldn't top and up-and-coming managers be clamouring for the Arsenal job?

  8. Mandy dodd

    May 04, 2011, 22:45 #6207

    Why are there so many spurs fans on this site?

  9. Joe Fitzpatrick

    May 04, 2011, 22:39 #6206

    CD- "For the life of me, I simply do not understand how anyone can still defend AW after this seasons calamatous capitulations. Even by AW's standards this years annual choke reached new lows, especially when you take into account the overall very poor standard of the top teams this season" That's exactly why I can no longer defend Wenger.well that and the fact that he still picks Almunia and Denilson and still hasn't clocked that they are never going to get any better! A part of me will always love Arsene Wenger for all that he achieved at the club but if he refuses to change his policy (and i'm sad to say he probably won't) then i'm sorry but.... he's gonna have to go.

  10. Whinger_OUT_NOW

    May 04, 2011, 20:13 #6203

    There's more to come. Wait and watch. More influx of worthless French twats, more excuses, more ranting and raving against referees, more of the hilarious defensive cock-up's. May 2012 will be the same as May 2011. How do I know this? Because Whinger has already said that he will only listen if someone can prove to him that his way is wrong and then he goes on to say that he is convinced his way is right. Which basically means - bugger off the rest, I know I'm right and I have a job for life anyway. So...BWAHAHAHAHAH

  11. JollyMike

    May 04, 2011, 19:21 #6201

    Well, we are competing against better teams nowadays. No doubt! I liked the winning teams better than the ones that have failed. I want Arsenal to win everything! I can remember Yeovil and losing. Don't think any of you would like that to happen. We beat Parma with the long balls up to Smith. Tip tap football is better than that kind of football, but I would rather win a game playing badly than losing playing great. I remember the last title this team won. We had a stinker! We won!!!! I think that we have a better chance of becoming champions in some competition with what you call tip tap football than kicking it long. I Also think that doing something with the infastructure that the club have done is a really smart way of going into the future. Maybe you would like our club drowning in debt so that we can buy big names. I don't know. I would actually like to hav Deschampes in as new manager after Arsene's contract expires. He is a young winner of a manager. But don't blame the direstraits of the last years on lie's like this blog does. I said it before in one of my first reations here. It has been unlucky times and not good enough player's. Some bad desicions from the manager and player's. All in all not good enough. Don't blame it on lies.

  12. fozzys mate

    May 04, 2011, 19:03 #6200

    Jolly Mike thanks for the good natured sparing! It all depends on how you judge success. We all accept a few seasons without trophies but I personally don't accept the current drought when it is self imposed to the extent that a large transfer kitty that has gone unspent for 2 years. I do take your point though as I once saw an interview with Terry Neil in 2000 where he said it didn't matter if we won nothing for 8 years as he was building for the longer term! I don't think they help themselves by hiking the prices and bringing new kits out after 1 year.

  13. CD

    May 04, 2011, 18:28 #6199

    As always a very good article Joe and I concur with every word written. Also @Judge me in May, you have also hit the nail on the head. For the life of me, I simply do not understand how anyone can still defend AW after this seasons calamatous capitulations. Even by AW's standards this years annual choke reached new lows, especially when you take into account the overall very poor standard of the top teams this season. That in itself says a lot about where we currently are under AW, as clearly the other teams will improve through quality purchases, but we will continue to flatter to deceive with Project Wenger, but have the privelidge of paying another 6.5% for it! I read an article somewhere this week (might or might not be true) that we were after the signiture of another 14 year old supposed wonder kid. Well that should excite all the AKB's and keep them happy. In fact why not buy a season ticket now for 2018/19 to see the latest recruit in our never ending bright future!!

  14. Joe Fitzpatrick

    May 04, 2011, 16:29 #6196

    Jollymike- Arsenal are not really competing at the top level though, are they? Couldn't win a thing this year even though it was all there for the taking. Cocked up the champions league group stage. Struggled against lower division teams in the cups. Lost at home to newly promoted sides. Cocked up the carling cup final. Threw away too many games in the dying minutes with stupid stupid errors. Only after all that have I finally said enough is enough with Project Wenger. Some people would call me patient.

  15. GaryFootscrayAustralia

    May 04, 2011, 15:26 #6190

    Hey! You left Lauren off your list at the top of the article! Don't forget that guy. His own goal at Maine Road in 03/04 and his challenge for a blatant booking in the 04 FA Cup Semi rate as two of my funniest ever Arenal moments. Almost as funny as watching David O'Leary swearing at himself after deftly lobbing an own goal at Highbury, or The Merse shouting "F**k Off!" at the ref after a disallowed goal at Hillsborough in 88...Merse was already celebrating with the Arsenal fans behind the goal, when he turned around, saw the ref pointing for a free to Wednesday and BAM! Lost his ****e proper funny, like...

  16. Loyal since 1980

    May 04, 2011, 15:21 #6189

    Jollymike, I also rememeber the late 80's and early 90's, yes, 92-95 were pretty bad with a direct type of football, but we won 3 cups in this time. However, GG, before he got sacked because of finacial wrong doings, was going to resign at the the end of that season anyway, with the words 'I have taken this club as far as I can', it's in his book called 'The glory and the grief'. At least GG and the club could see where they were heading, AW and this money grabbing board cannot, let me ask you one question, 'Do you really enjoy watching this current type of football? Tippy tappy, lots of possesion, but no end result? I don't, I want to the football of 2001 - 2006 back, quick, fast and powerful.I would like to AW in the job next year,but IF, we are in the same position this time next year, same players, choking at the end, then AW MUST GO!

  17. JollyMike

    May 04, 2011, 15:13 #6187

    fozzys mate: I agree with you on all your comments. I loved the time. What I'm saying is that we had bad periods at that time as well. I was as frustrated at that time as I am now when we falter at a pivitol time. Rosepainting everything before Wenger and making him a Frankenstein maker is not doing him justice. My point is also that it was easier to win domestically in England at that time than it is now. Being top four in England now is like being to twenty in the world. Being top four domestically in the 80's or 90's is probably being among the fifty to seventy best teams in the world. I see Wenger moving the club forwards. Not like in Italy where the infrastructure is at the same standard as when we won our last league title before Wenger took over.

  18. Judge me in May

    May 04, 2011, 15:12 #6186

    Oh isn't it hilarious to heat AKBs using a one-off game against Manure as some kind of justification! Can Wolves and Liverpool do the same then? Perhaps these poor deluded souls could ask themselves why we couldn't beat 10-man Blackburn then! Makes me laugh to hear apologists claim Arsene tears his hair out on the sidelines watching Eboue. Yeah sure. Must explain why after three years of clownery Wenger gave him a new 60k a week contract! Hah. This article sums it up nicely. The whole move was a cash scam where AW got to hide behind excuses for failing every year, and the board got to get rich. Wenger also got rich for winning nothing! As his 6.5 mil a year contract will justify. There really is NO defence for Wenger anymore and the AKB now sounds hilarious, desperate and out of ideas. NEVER FORGET MONACO where thee board cared about winning and sacked Wenger for mucking about with rubbish French kids. To prove there's life after Wenger, Tigana came in and a season later won the Double!!! Wenger is a busted flush. It's really coming to sthg when he best the AKB can do is use a one-off result in a game against Manure, when even Wolves managed to beat them this season!!! End of the day, Wenger said judge hiking May and he is a FAILURE. Can't even beat Brum in the CC final. No wonder our best players always want out. And can AKBs PLEASE stop this myth about Wenger "raisit expectations"? He didn't. Arsenal FOOTBALL CLUB raises your expectations with our history. We already had ten league titles before AW showed up and we'll win many more after he buggers off. Wenger has won three league titles in FIFTEEN years. That's pretty dam shabby for a man on £6.5 mil a year! Graham was a better manager in terms of trophies won and ratio. Did I read someone mention we are in Europe's elite?! Ha ha ha ha ha. We couldn't even win a CL group with Partizan, Shaktar and Braga! We went to Barca and had ZERO shots on or off target in 90 mins! So much for our beautiful football (myth). No matter how you look at it, at any proper big club Wenger woulda been out th door in 2008 latest. We are now small-time and some of our fans are small-time. Sticking up for a Loser who's won nothing in SIX years!!! Come on Arsene go replace Jose at Real. Let's see how long they'll put up with Diabys, Eboues, Denilsons, Almunias, Chamaks and Rosickys! Let's see how long you have a job for aftrer saying fourth is a domestic trophy, and you'd sign up second place for twenty years. NO top club would touch Wengerwitj a barge. Ask Barca or Madrid fans if they'd have him. I live in Barcelona now and I can guarantee, Wenger is seen as a totally overrated non-achieving manager. THAT is how big clubs and he rest of Europe views him. Of course though in the world of the AKB, he's a great manager! Talk about brainwashed Cult...

  19. terry neill's coiffure

    May 04, 2011, 14:23 #6183

    yes JollyMike, the 90s were a nightmare, they really were, it was Arsene and Arsene only that made them bearable! I mean we ONLY won a Lague title (only ONE defeat the entire season), the FA Cup, the League Cup and the Cup Winners Cup with George in the 90s, what a nightmare, eh? Yoiu weren't there in the early 80s, so you're really talking some crap there mate.

  20. fozzys mate

    May 04, 2011, 13:33 #6179

    Jolly Mike - describing 89-96 as horrible is v strange. In 1988/89 and 90/91 I hardly missed a game and remember those seasons as 2 of the most exciting ever. Alright 92-95 despite delivering 3 trophies and unprecedented domestic cup double saw some direct football but still some thrilling games. Graham was on his way as he had run out of ideas pre scandal. You accuse Joe of rewriting history but you seem to forget everything pre Wenger?

  21. Joe Fitzpatrick

    May 04, 2011, 13:17 #6178

    Alex- oh how I would love to taste steak again! I've been living on Dr. Wenger-stein's diet of bangers and mash for too long now. I'm twisted? Baby crabs devouring their mother's flesh? Twisted. Maybe your Prozac plan will be implemented next season and the club will put a hefty dose in our beer.. Then we will all be too drugged up to question what the hell is going on at our club.

  22. JollyMike

    May 04, 2011, 13:02 #6176

    I think you are over your head here. I have been let down a couple of times through every season I've been an Arsenal supporter. I've followed Arsenal from 1989. The ninethies was horrible. That is until Arsene came in. He is one of the best things that ever could have happened The Gunners. I remember Graham and corruption, I remember Merson taking coke, I remember MR. Arsenal being in jail for being a loser and having a drinking problem. You don't remember what the history have given us. You make the history you want so that you can make a point that isn't really fact driven. Too compete at the highest level is what they told us when building the stadium. That is what we are doing. A combination of being unlucky and not good enough as a team has lost us the titles we've wanted. It has nothing to do about a lie from someone. I don't want to go back to the times when 26000 or so came to Highbury to see the crunch match of the season. That is what happened back in the days. The days when we won something. That was before Arsene and Arsenal was anything in Europe, and all the run down club's of Italy dominated.

  23. fozzys mate

    May 04, 2011, 12:43 #6175

    Joe as you know I agree with the sentiment of your piece and do believe that Wenger uses his non spending position as a get out clause. What as you also know I do not like is the board and the manager and army of drones over the last 5 years castigating anyone who dare politely probe beneath the veneer and I count you amongst this number. I think since the move the board and Arsene have been a. Match made in heaven for the vertiginous uplift in share price. However this status quo cannot me realistically maintained with the Emirates now becoming a huge cash cow, the loans paid off shortly, the cash reserve and finally the absurd price increase, the Kronke takeover and new kit after 1 year of the old. Either the boss will be proved correct or have to for the first time ever properly join his peers in the transfer market. Either way things must improve.

  24. Spectrum

    May 04, 2011, 12:43 #6174

    Gazza - (quote:) "Paddy ask yourself this would we have beat Man Utd if we needed to ?" - I'll answer that - a resounding NO ! The win against United proved what all of us ( except the blind A.K.B.'s ) suspected. That we haven't got the determination, desire, will to win, composure - call it what you will - to win when it MATTERS. When there's something at stake, we bottle it. Wenger can't motivate players, he doesn't criticise when it's needed.He's had long enough for his youth experiment to bloom.Time to ship him out. "In Arsene we rust."

  25. Richard Ansell

    May 04, 2011, 12:29 #6172

    It was indeed a lie Joe and really the new stadium has turned in to a white elephant. Wenger can not hide behind it though as he HAS money to spend if you believe him. It is the fact that he insists in pursuing his ridiculous youth experiment and continues on regardless with the same old problem positions undoing us time and time again that is so frustrating. If I thought he would give it up I would back him 100% but he will not and that is why I think his time is up. All this is really academic though as he will definitely be in charge for the forseable future and us mere unknowledgeable fans will just have to put up with more of the same.

  26. Joe Fitzpatrick

    May 04, 2011, 12:23 #6171

    Tom- Ajax faded because they always ended up selling way too much of their top talent. Cruyff, Van Basten, Overmars, Kluivert, de boer x2, Blind Reiziger, Davids, Seedorf, Sneijder, Van der Sar, Van der Vaart, De Jong, Vermaelen, Bergkamp, Hetinga, Suarez, Babel to name but a few. Many of those players were signed very young or were products of the youth team. With a bit more ambition they could still be ruling Europe now but they always choose to cash in rather than spend a bit and keep their stars. We sold Henry, Vieira, Overmars, Petit, Anelka, Wiltord, Adebayor and Toure and let others like Pires, Gilberto, Gallas and Flamini leave for nothing. As Fabregas said... You have to choose between developing only young players and winning major trophies.

  27. Gazza

    May 04, 2011, 11:31 #6168

    Paddy ask yourself this would wee have beat Man Utd if we needed to ?

  28. Joe Fitzpatrick

    May 04, 2011, 11:28 #6167

    Paddy- We were sold a big lie, we were told that the move to the grove was going to allow us to compete in the transfer Market with europes elite. Why in 2011 is the average age of the team still only 23? Because Flamini, Adebayor, Toure, Gallas, Gilberto and maybe Fabregas decided that the project was not working quickly enough for them and they wanted out. Yes we beat Man utd and I celebrated like a lunatic but ultimately it only gives us 3 points and we are again potless. I could have even lived with the Carling cup but inexperience and quality let us down there as well. I wish we could just spend a little bit more and get the players we so obviously need I.e. A goalkeeper, left back, centre half and striker. Even Barca spent big to compliment their youth policy... Rivaldo, Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, ETo,Overmars, Henry, Ibrahimovic and Villa to name but a few.

  29. Fishpie

    May 04, 2011, 11:26 #6166

    When I see Arsene tear his hair out on the side of the pitch when Ebooue makes a mistake, and get all tetchy with reporters after more dropped points, I don't think, "There's a man happy with fourth place". He wants more and is deeply frustrated, you can see it, he's not a happy bunny. I think the club ownership, share value, millions-made aspect of Joe's piece may be valid but I don't think Wenger ever plans to settle for less than a trophy. I think, under pressure of criticism, he tries to justify fourth as success but he knows his reputation is in decline and that is getting to him.

  30. Alex

    May 04, 2011, 10:56 #6163

    Being bright is one thing, being twisted is another and Joe you can proudly say you are both bright and twisted. You assume that Arsene Wenger is a masochist to just loves being runner up or third after he has had a taste of being invincible. Are you nuts? After you taste a steak do you become vegetarian the next day? Wenger had no choice absolutely no choice but to BUILD a team rather than buy it. Arsenal is NOT in a crisis. It is going through a relatively lean patch but we can say RELATIVELY precisely because of the period between 1998-2004 when Wenger one every major trophy except the CL in sight. It is his stewardship which raised our expectations in the first place and now a part of the demented support is turning upon him. It reminds me of baby crabs turning on their mother and eating its flesh once they dont need it. Get a grip Joe - some prozac may help in case you are perennially depressed.

  31. Tom (AKB)

    May 04, 2011, 10:44 #6161

    Ajax's decline was because they played in Holland not because of their youth policy. Don't forget the best team in the world have a heavy emphasis on youth as well. Stadium move is a long term investment, say 40-50 years (see Barca history after moving to Camp Nou), that had to happen. Not all players succeed. I'll let you think of examples from other clubs (I've got half a doxen at Utd that spring to mind) I can't be bother to go on. But check ow many times Arsenal finished in the top four between WWII and since Wenger's arrival and see who has the better record....

  32. Paddy

    May 04, 2011, 10:23 #6158

    After watching us comfortably beat Man Utd the other day, are you still convinced we've been sold a big lie and that we're imminently going to slip into obscurity, Ajax-style? Most right-minded people think we're very close to being the best team in England and with one or two adjustments/additions we stand a very good chance of winning things again. As for Europe, nobody can get close to Barcelona, as the billion-dollar Real Madrid have shown - no amount of money being thrown at Kakas and Ronaldos can stop the best team ever assembled. If you think Arsene has failed miserably you need a bit of context. Look at Man City. Look at Spurs. Look at Liverpool. These are teams who are spending fortunes to sit in our wake.

  33. Jekyll

    May 04, 2011, 10:14 #6156

    You've brought all the different strands of the story together nicely here. And now the prices have gone up - on the back of another monumental end of season collapse. But of course Wenger is 'impressed' with this team. People should open their eyes to the real agenda at the club. The move to the new stadium was made to increase share price then sell off the club, as precisely has happened. Wenger free to pursue his project, no investment in the squad from the board. Match made in heaven, as you say.