What’s Good and What’s Bad at Arsenal

Time for a stocktake



What’s Good and What’s Bad at Arsenal

Don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater


Starting with the former:

- History and tradition.

- Stability (slightly shaken by recent Kroenke takeover, but least bad outcome in the circumstances).

- The biggest club stadium in the biggest city in western Europe (delivered on time and on budget to boot).

- Sustainable Finances.

- A great youth system, culminating in…

- Highly technically accomplished young players who play aesthetic football, put together at very little relative cost and who are already worth far more than we paid for them.

- A manager recently adjudged “Coach of the Decade” (all of which has been spent with Arsenal) and particularly strong in the areas of player recruitment and development.

And, the less good side:

- No trophies for nearly 6 years.

- Ongoing need to pay off the debt associated with the new stadium, thereby restricting investment in the team and fans suffering high ticket prices.

- The worst medical record in the country – on average, each first team squad player missed 30% of matches last season, the impact of this then exacerbated by the need to then get back up to speed and loss of continuity. Only a little better this season.

- Inexperience, coupled with the trophy drought and injury record, leading to a shortfall in confidence and mental fragility.

- Some players, less driven by success, happy to pick up a wage.

- A stubborn manager who appears tactically inflexible, too willing to persevere with players who are not at the right level, is unable to resolve the team’s medical problems notwithstanding his background in physiology, and whose judgement and behaviour is becoming erratic due to the stresses associated with the job.

Conclusions:

- The club is in an incredibly strong position for the medium to long term. Ask yourself how many of our strengths are shared with Chelsea, for example? You may argue that they don’t share our weaknesses – but our weaknesses are easier to fix than theirs. Last season I forecast at least four league titles and two Champions League victories over the next ten years, provided Wenger remains and, when the time comes, is replaced by someone of a similar stature. Nearly one year has gone by without a dent in the above target, but I remain confident.

- Having written that, we have NEVER won the Premier League the season after a World Cup or European Championship. After a good break in the summer hopefully everyone will be fit and raring to go next August (and our good players remain). But…

- We MUST sort out the medical side. Whether it is overtraining, the pitch (has anyone ever seen a divot at the Grove?), the style of play, poor quality staff (coupled with the advent of players hiring their own docs, physios, trainers etc – a recipe for confusion), the players being made of glass or whatever, the current situation is crippling us (in both senses of the word).

- Some surgery is required to the playing squad – and probably to the coaching staff and defensive tactics - but let’s not throw the baby out with the bathwater.


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  1. clockendpaul

    May 10, 2011, 7:36 #6583

    Bubba gooner.. two or three quality players needed and get rid of the dead wood, we could have said that for the last four or five seasons, where have you been?

  2. ONG

    May 10, 2011, 4:50 #6582

    I agree with Collin that we desperately need a new manager with new ideas and new tatics brought to the club. AW has made a Mickey Mouse football team that frequently loses/draws with bottom-of-the-table teams, then one day beating the top team (MU) and the next day losing convincinly to a mid-table team. How can a manager of the decade produce that sort of team. Players that get injured so easily, players that can't head the ball effectively, tactic that passes/dribbles the ball into goal and keepers that can't deal with crosses confidently. Arsenal FC, AW and the faithful fans' agony must end with a change of manager, please.

  3. fozzys mate

    May 09, 2011, 22:36 #6573

    Pete we have every right to be angry with almost every gutless and without tactics display since the Wembley debacle. Enough is enough I appreciate your article but Wengs arrogance and blindness is breathtaking. Watched a superb player in Saurez tonight but we won't see his like or the likes of Henry again as now you need to pay for class. Why not wait a season to get Chamakh on a free instead - what a difference he has made eh! Let's all make excuses and look back to 2004 as our rivals all spend big and we dither trying to save a fiver at 1159 on deadline day! As I say the amount of people saying enough is enough is too many. Move or die, stay still and rust, while we break the record for the biggest cash reserve. As an economist is he setting up a bail out fund for the eurozone!

  4. clockendpaul

    May 09, 2011, 22:20 #6571

    Mandy dodd your ignorance is amazing, answer this question... had you heard of wenger before he came to arsenal. No one man is bigger than any club

  5. GaryFootscrayAustralia

    May 09, 2011, 18:21 #6560

    Nice player selection Kev G, but let's be honest - only Benzema speaks French as first language out of those four, so he's the most likely, AW could have snared Cahill ages ago if he was prepared to pay the going rate, Schweinsteiger and Muller are both super players but also 100% Bayern boys. We used to have a squad chock full of 100% Arsenal boys not so long back, now I could think up maybe half a dozen?

  6. Pete

    May 09, 2011, 14:29 #6543

    Thanks for all the feedback (yep, I have read it). I made it about 3 comments in favour and 19 opposed... But as many of you were clearly angry after the Stoke game (as I was) I think that goes to prove my point that the focus is so short term. Everyone is so blinded by 6 years without trophies coupled with the agony of being close(ish) => Wenger out. The point of the article was to look beyond the short term ups and downs and look at the long term picture - which I think is very bright. I understand there are likely to be a number of acquisitions this summer (not clear of the ages) so lets see. The fact remains that we are still 3rd - and would likely have been higher with a more normal injury burden. Man U and Chelsea are coming back to us - while Man C (just), Liverpool and Sp*rs are still behind. Financial fair play/high debt burden/off field instability will increasingly handicap these clubs.

  7. Brian

    May 09, 2011, 14:12 #6542

    PPP Mourinho won the CL with Porto.Remember all them £50m players they had in their team? Its a myth he needs money

  8. Kev G

    May 09, 2011, 12:59 #6532

    Players who should go at the end of this season Almunia Eboue Squillaci Denilson Diaby Rosicky Bendtner Chamakh Vela You'd only need about 4 players to replace that lot. CB, MF, 2 x ST CB = Gary Cahill MF = Bastian Schweinstiger ST = Thomas Muller ST = Karim Benzema We'd win the league at a canter

  9. HowardL

    May 09, 2011, 9:04 #6495

    There's a big difference between a 'Coach' and a 'Manager'.

  10. Alastair Kerr

    May 08, 2011, 22:28 #6483

    Let's remember today (8th May) 40 years ago Arsenal beat Liverpool to complete the double. Everything that team had, this current team lack. Unfortunately, as with The Invincibles, the team of 1971 was dismantled too quickly and it took a long time to see silverware again. This current shower of gutless underacheivers( apart from a few individuals who I don't need to name) are nowhere near capable of deliverying silverware.

  11. ppp

    May 08, 2011, 22:21 #6481

    ferguson and mourinho win trophies by spending huge amounts of money. they will only ever manage clubs where this is possible. put in arsene's situation they would fail.

  12. Wayne Mottley

    May 08, 2011, 21:03 #6474

    Bolton away: lost to two corners. Today lost 3 goals because of rubbish defending. Whoever voted Wenger "coach of the decade" should be utterly ashamed of themselves!!

  13. fozzy's mate

    May 08, 2011, 20:29 #6468

    How many pints have you had? 4 title wins and 2 champions league winds in the next 10 years? This supine squad are when it really matters not even a mid table side. Look at the stats for the collapses at the business end in the last few years. When you can't beat in a short period, Birmingham, Stoke, West Brom, Sunderland, Bolton, Blackburn or Orient you know you have problems. This surely is the managers last close season to address what stares him in the face. 22 goals conceded from set pieces, when at the end of last seasons collapse he said the defence was too weak? Do your duty and do what is required starting now, if not what is your 6 million a year for?

  14. Rocky RIP

    May 08, 2011, 19:49 #6465

    Can we please ditch this idea that 'AW is happy just to finish 2nd.' Nonsense. He looks as tortured as we all are by not winning, hence his constantly anxious looking expression & bottle throwing moments. He's a sore loser, as all people obsessed with winning are.

  15. Kenny

    May 08, 2011, 19:34 #6464

    Wengers project is to win the title with cheap buys and young kids.Fergie's project is just to win trophies.And no one can deny Utd play attractive football.This has been a transitional season for Utd and Rooney has been out of sorts for most of the season but the title has been won again.But if you believe Wenger we are only 1 or 2% behind them.If it wasnt so sad you would laugh.The man is deluded.If he cannot face up to reality and admit he is wrong and buy 5 or 6 quality players, yes 5 or 6 he should go now

  16. bubba gooner

    May 08, 2011, 18:44 #6463

    god there really are some moaning fans out there, you make me wanna scream! We are so close to winning something...yes we should of won something this season, but even our players are human and can bottle it in a final. Two or three quality players needed and get rid of the dead wood.

  17. Colin

    May 08, 2011, 18:26 #6462

    Since we last won a trophy United have won 9.Including 4 titles.Wenger coach of the decade who were the judges? Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles.Ferguson is a winning machine while Wenger is happy just to finish 2nd.We need a new manager with new ideas and new tatics brought to the club.Wenger pre 2005 great manager post 2005 an average manager who is clueless.When are the AKB's going to realise they are wrong as there hero is

  18. james

    May 08, 2011, 18:25 #6461

    Everything in this article WOULD be true ..... IF arsenal had actually won anything in the last 6 years.

  19. Seven Kings Gunner

    May 08, 2011, 18:11 #6460

    What colour is the sky in your world Peter.

  20. Mark

    May 08, 2011, 17:01 #6458

    dear AKB's, have you seen enough yet ?? pathetic, weak, sub-standard. all that was good from the past in terms of defending, goalkeepin and battling, has been truly lost from our club by a power / experiment crazy AW. Fergy gets better with age and manu are built to be competitive from top to bottom and the Arsenal of today is pretty pretty goey nowhere never shooty. manu were firing shots in from all angles today whilst we never shoot. really we were absolutely pathetic today

  21. simon

    May 08, 2011, 16:58 #6457

    Think this stat - if correct says it all. It is taken from a Twitter feed during the Man U v Chelsea game - From InfostradaLive on Twitter: "United's record in 259 previous PL matches when they took a 2-0 lead is 253 wins, six draws and ZERO defeats." I shudder to think what our equivalent stats would be. Draw your own conclusions.

  22. Henry

    May 08, 2011, 16:45 #6456

    Coach of the decade.He isnt even a better coach than George Graham.George won 6 trophies in 8 seasons Wenger 7 in 15 seasons.Loser of the decade more like

  23. Gman

    May 08, 2011, 16:37 #6455

    We are a laughing stock to all none Gooners; today’s performance just sums us up. All foreplay and no penatratration. If that was my Richard then I would have dumped her ages ago. The Cloggers defence was impenetrable and that gave their forwards some hope and they built on that. If we carry on like that then the Grove will be half empty next season although with the current fiddling of attendances it will still register 60,000. I’m going to slash my wrist now

  24. john

    May 08, 2011, 16:14 #6451

    Pathetic, bottlers and losers. But from Arsenes point of view we gave everything and showed great mental strength and character. Get out Arsene and take half the team with you.

  25. Chris Rock

    May 08, 2011, 15:00 #6449

    'Coach of the Decade'? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha I won't mention Guardiola, Ferguson, Hiddink, Rijkaard, Mourinho or Ancelotti shall I? They've all won trophies Wenger coulsn't win on the Playstation (the CL for example). Hilarious! That award was about as funny as Diaby winning the ballon d'Or LOL Maybe Wenger could try beating Birmingham in a Carling cup final first perhaps? Or perhaps he could try be the coach of the last 3 years before talking about decades!!!!

  26. Richard Ansell

    May 08, 2011, 15:00 #6448

    Sorry Peter I just can not see this bright future with a glut of trophies you are predicting. Wenger's increasingly delusional post match comments this season, his continual backing of sub-standard players and his total refusal to even try and buy in some quality where desperately needed has convinced me that trophies are going to be thin on the ground under this man. Of course I live in the hope that your prediction is the right one otherwise what is the point of it all?

  27. Mandy Dodd

    May 08, 2011, 12:56 #6445

    6 years no trophies. The legend that is Bill Shankley had a 7 year trophy drought. By your logic I guess Liverpool should have ditched Shanks back then. And who would you bring in in place of Wenger? Jose - we cannot afford his methods. Pep happy where he is for now. Capello - ****e. Moyes / Hodgson / O Neill - never ever want to see their brand of football at Arsenal. Hiddink - not available to us

  28. Daniel

    May 08, 2011, 11:11 #6439

    The coach of the decade was the biggest joke ever.Yeah Wenger is better than Ferguson and Mourinho.Must be all them CL's Wenger won.5 years of that decade trophyless.At any other major club in Europe Wenger would have been sacked 3 years ago!!!But he makes the board lots and lots of money so who cares if we dont win trophies?And we the fans would rather see big profits than winning titles and cups wouldnt we?

  29. Nonsense

    May 08, 2011, 11:01 #6438

    I've reflected on our resources.... Then I realised that someone with a brain would realise that Wenger is paid more than Ferguson or Guardiola. They'd also see a wage bill of £110 mil. Claiming our youth policy was put together at little cost is a big fat lie. Arsenal have the highest wage bill for players under 23 that are uncapped internationals (check it). I remember exactly where Arsenal were before Wenger: we had ten league titles and a rich history. And our club will be a much better place if Wenger can be ousted. No man is bigger than the club. Six years, no trophies. No arguments. Wenger Out.

  30. BNG

    May 08, 2011, 10:34 #6436

    " I forecast at least four league titles and two Champions League victories over the next ten years " ooooh goodie here we have a ten year plan from mystic meg,lets all forget the 6 years of underachieving with a manager who used to be good shall we, lets forget him making the same stupid crass mistakes with defenders who can't defend, keepers that can't keep and a complete dogs dinner of a squad for at least the 3rd season in succession, yep a new year TEN year plan is just what the physio ordered, could anybody tell me any 5 year plan anywhere involving anything that has ever worked..........because a bleeding 6 year one has just failed spectacularly with inspector clouseau wittering on about mental strength,once bitten twice shy should be a warning to even those inflicted with the worst case of blind faith or misplaced loyalty,dereliction of duty by AW by not investing in quality players and indulging in his own private mega expensive glamour fantasy of making stars out of gutless cretins plucked from obscurity...........this is football not a stage production of poxy Pygmalion ( google it ) with Wenger cast as the genius Henry Higgins......ten years my arse Peter Northcott

  31. Jack

    May 08, 2011, 10:07 #6434

    Great Youth system???Only Ashley Cole and Jack Wilshire have made it through to be an established player in the 1st team in all Wengers time at the club.The likes of Cesc and Ramsey were brought in.The Arsenal youth policy is a myth