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An example to us all

Barca: Tip-tap but not shot shy


There is little doubt that the current Barcelona team that lifted the Champions League for the second time in three seasons, making it the third in six for the club, will be ranked alongside the great sides in the history of the competition. This is not least because the tournament is much harder to win these days due to the increased number of top sides that take part – unlike the eras in which Real Madrid, Ajax, Bayern Munich, Liverpool and AC Milan were dominant. You can chew over Manchester United’s defensive errors all you like, but Lionel Messi is not only the best player on the planet at the moment, he may in time be regarded as the best there has ever been. I feel fortunate that I was able to watch one of his peak performances in the flesh, when Arsenal lost 4-1 at the Nou Camp in 2010. In tandem with the talents of Xavi and Iniesta, United could not live with their opponents on Saturday evening, although in fairness, no-one could. It made Inter’s two legged triumph over Guardiola’s team last season all the more remarkable, although Jose Mourinho’s side probably won the tie due to Barca having to travel to Milan by bus, a long old trek which is hardly ideal preparation for a high-intensity match. Iceland’s volcanic ash has a lot to answer for.

Bareclona’s football is what Arsene Wenger aspires to, although his vision is so pure he neglects to put any focus on the defensive side of the game. The Arsenal manager knows he is a long way short, as demonstrated by his tactics in the second leg of this season’s encounter. Yes, Nicklas Bendtner could have stolen the tie in its dying throes, but such an outcome would have been a fluke, and it is not something anyone should cling onto. In looking at how Barcelona have reached the stage they are at now, I was interested to see how they and Arsenal have progressed since their meeting in the Paris final in 2006. From Saturday’s starting eleven, only Victor Valdes was selected five years ago. Carlos Puyol was relegated to the subs bench at Wembley. From the 2006 subs, Xavi and Iniesta were not first choice picks. Lionel Messi was in the Barca squad back then, although injury meant he was an outsider for a chance in the final. I do have to say that had he been totally fit, he would have probably started instead of Ludovic Giuly and Arsenal’s evening may have been very different.

Of Arsenal’s eighteen that night, Fabregas and Eboue survive from the starting eleven, and from those on the bench Almunia, Clichy and Van Persie remain at the club. If one looks at Wenger’s current first choice eleven, one of the starters is there and two of the subs have stepped up. It’s a similar story to Barcelona’s, and yet the quality of the players that have come in tells its own story. Barca’s seven newbies are Dani Alves, Mascherano, Pique, Abidal, Busquets, Pedro and David Villa. Three of those came through the Academy (added to the four of the starters who were around in 2006), although Pique had to be bought back from, ironically, Manchester United to fulfill his potential. The outlay in transfer fees for the eleven players is approximately 105 million euros – say £95 million for the sake of argument. Looking at Arsenal’s first choice eleven, only Wilshere, Szczesny and Fabregas were at the club as sixteen year olds. I’ll exclude Theo Walcott as he was basically a transfer buy. Someone can do the maths on the combined fees for the other eight first choicers (for the sake of argument, Sagna, Vermaelen, Koscielny, Clichy, Song, Walcott, Nasri and Van Persie), but off the top of my head, I reckon it’s around £50 million. Remembering that Arsene Wenger has around £40 million in his player trading account, there is an argument to suggest that he may not be as far behind Barcelona in terms of resources as is sometimes believed.

What does seem clear though, in the way that the respective teams have developed since 2006 is that – even though they have similar models in terms of coaching – the Catalan side are getting a lot more value out of their academy. Even from a very young age, Arsenal’s trainees have technique drilled into them. It’s all about control of the football and both sides can be categorized as tip-tap teams that move the ball around quickly in the centre of the park awaiting an opening to exploit. However, what really seems significant is that Arsenal do not utilize their academy product to do anything but make money through selling the players to other teams. That generally they then fail to go on and make the most of their opportunities elsewhere indicates that they were not good enough in the first instance or that they would have been better served remaining at Arsenal and being integrated into a team that plays with more of the style they have supposedly been trained to play.

Whichever it is, there seems little doubt that Arsenal are failing to produce sufficient first team players from their youth system. Arsene Wenger talks about the idea of players developing a love for the culture of the club, and yet he is quick enough to dispense with the most likely candidates to actually buy into this – local English players who have grown up at Arsenal. Jack Wilshere is a current and obvious exception, but imagine if there were more players with his spirit and attitude in the first team. It is a spirit Barcelona have, which players who arrive from other clubs are integrated into. I don’t really see an equivalent at Arsenal. It’s interesting to note that – in terms of honours – Barcelona had a relatively barren spell not so long ago when the team was dominated by Dutch imports. It was significant that the domination was broken up by Frank Rijkaard. In a similar way, Arsenal are now dominated by French or French-speaking players. This was okay when they arrived in north London and were integrated by those who had been at the club longer than Arsene Wenger, but times have moved on now and the bedrock – in terms of identity – has shifted.

There is little doubt that Wenger distrusts English youth, which may go a long way to explaining why Liam Brady’s department has served the club so poorly in terms of first team players in the last fifteen years. No-one is criticizing the club for failing to discover a Lionel Messi – he’s a one-off. But spirit and team ethic can take you a long way and I feel that has been lost in recent years. That many fans struggle to identify strongly with a good number of the players is indicative of this. We struggle to get a sense of who these players really are and I sometimes doubt it would be easy to hold a natural conversation with many of them. The barriers – mainly cultural – are too great. I doubt such a distance exists between Jack Wilshere, Theo Walcott and the fans they meet. I am not sure exactly what I am trying to get at with this particular piece, but if I were to try I would say that the identity of Arsenal has been lost somewhere along the line. In a weird kind of way, I think if I were to define the moment it happened, it was when the club moved to a new stadium, as that was the trigger for the switch in personnel from the team that played in Paris – albeit with just two Englishmen – and that which has as yet failed to deliver a trophy. It’s strange that, in spite of the 2006 team featuring nine foreign players, for whatever reason, I felt I knew those players better. Maybe they just had bigger personalities.

Anyway, I thoroughly enjoyed the 90 minutes of football I witnessed in the final, which is not always the case with this particular fixture. Note particularly how the tip-tap football was utilised to create shooting opportunities, rather than an end in itself. The performance of the winners made Arsenal’s achievement of beating Barca in the first leg of their last 16 tie all the more remarkable. There’s an account of that evening here written by a 15 year old Gooner which encapsulates what a great match it was for those of an age that haven’t been lucky enough to witness quite as many great Arsenal occasions as some of us.

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  1. Exiled-Gooner

    May 31, 2011, 23:57 #8028

    I don't think it's right to compare THE ARSENAL with Barca as the leagues and financial environment there both play in are totally opposite of each other.Take La liga it's on par with most other euro leagues, except the Bundesliga and possibly Seria A,where you have only 2 teams competing for the title and only occasionally 1/2 other MIGHT challenge where in the P/L you have a crop of 6/7.Also Barca only have to compete for support etc against one other team in Barcalona-(Espanyol)- where we have to compete with 10+ and as already stated Barca and Madrid have the backing of city officials and banks and do their own TV deals where we don't.So to financially compare us with them,even though the board told us the Grove would put on us par with the so-called financial elite but didn't say when,is a non starter. Reference building of teams etc with young players Arsenal have always had a good youth system until now,the last few decades we have produced players like Storey, Brady,Rix,Adams,Rocky etc but in 15yrs of Wengers reign he's produced only 2(Cole & Wilshire)the rest he brought from other clubs youth systems and mainly foreign not a good record for man who advocates HOMEGROWN players?.Maybe this is why we seeing what we seeing now with the likes of Denilson,Song,Djourou etc there don't seem to play for the red and white in their blood like Jack does or as already stated is it the way training is done??? or is our scouting system just one bloke travelling around France?why can't we find another Adams in Barnet,another Charlie George in Islington?this does baffle me.Why does Wenger keep loaning out players and not give them a chance but instead award lucrative contracts?,to compare us with Barca wenger has to buy 5/6 QUALITY players from which the youth can learn off...no it won't happen but if you going to compare us on the footballing side compare us with Manure our rivals.

  2. HowardL

    May 31, 2011, 22:57 #8026

    It would seem that the Wenger plan was on the right lines but could not work with our limited resources and the style of play. A few bigger, stronger players, not necessarily English - Mascherano, Alonso, Vidic etc - and a decent keeper - again, not necessarily English - eg van der Saar - might not have given us a Barca lookalike but probably a few trophies - or A trophy at least!

  3. GoonerRon

    May 31, 2011, 18:38 #8013

    I'm not sure your comparison of the respective spending between the clubs is all that fair. Yes, you can compare the players like you have but that totally misses the expensive failures that Barca have signed. Over the past three years since Guardiola has been in charge they have spent 275m euros, say £250m. In fairness I haven't seen what they recouped in that period but it at least gives an idea of the scale of their spending. In that same period we have spent around £42m and a net profit of £25m.

  4. Ron

    May 31, 2011, 11:05 #7983

    Ill be brief. All this stuff comparing Arsenal to Barcelona is a load of utter tripe. Im sure Wenger admires their style and philosophy but the idea that he wants to emulate them? C'mon. Its rubbish media trash.

  5. More moaning...

    May 31, 2011, 4:24 #7968

    Another "quality" exclusive from OnlineSpurs. Keep up the good work boys. I'm sure you all will be happy with a new British manager and English players that lead you to 15th place but with the Carling Cup in tow. It will be brilliant. @Babatunde: Barca are not a "class club" they just have the best PR.

  6. Munitionsman

    May 31, 2011, 0:16 #7967

    Why are people comparing barca and AWFC? What do they have in common? Apart from cesc? Is it the youth system? Well not really. Westham or Leeds have produced more. Is it the goals? Well not really. Arsenal don't score or even shoot from outside the box and every year goals get more scrappy and harder to find after jan. Is it because we do things the right way? Of course not. Wenger is the rudest most duplicitous liar the PL has ever seen. Is it the tippy tappy football? Well not really. Barca are really really good at it where AWFC is good while they have the ball but once it's gone, so is their desire. There is no comparison. Don't waste your breathe.

  7. Dando

    May 30, 2011, 23:23 #7965

    2 of the 3 goals came from outside the box. It is unbelievable that Arsenal didn't score a single goal at home from this distance this season. Wenger can change the players all he likes but if his training methods and tactics remain the same we will not be a top 4 club come May 2012

  8. Chris

    May 30, 2011, 21:50 #7964

    As Sandeep said - Barca speculated alot of money on transfers to accumulate the few successful ones that made it to Saaturday's team.... The Barcelona youth budget absolutely dwarfs that at Arsenal. Plus of course in terms of time, Wenger's project is in its infancy and the Barca team "took 20 years to grow."

  9. Yours truely

    May 30, 2011, 21:12 #7961

    This site makes me happy. Slags off Arsenal at every opportunity, helps raise fans against the team which is expressed in the ground, just watch players confidence erode! Arsenal need to get a British manager, like O Neil or Coyle, play an English game and sit happily in 7th or 8th place every year, with the odd domestic trophy thrown in. I promise you, take this route and those refs and the media will be far more kind to you. Just think, watching your team without all those raised expectations. Wont always be pretty but you will be able to defend corners. But now the season has ended, I would like to thank all my agents on sites like these, you are doing a grand job, you will rid us of this troublesome manager! We can do this together. On my own, I am no match for Wengers skills, so we need to get him in another way, and you are a big help in that. Thanks again, your friend and neighbour.

  10. Mark2

    May 30, 2011, 21:12 #7960

    Arsenal-the balance sheet. i think that will catch on as thats what weve become. heart and passion ripped out and replaced by spin and profiteering

  11. The Treasurer

    May 30, 2011, 21:08 #7959

    Great piece. I have to say that Barca are the best team i have ever seen in my lifetime. I think that you ought to be careful when comparing Arsenal with Barca because we will always fall short. One has to remember that Barca, at this moment in time are in a league of their own, and the gulf between them and the second best team in Europe (either Man Utd or Real) is huge. If Barca carry on like this, then they will surely be seen as the best club side ever! Both Arsenal and Barca have a policy of developing players. The only difference is that Barca get most of the young players through their own youth system, whereas we tend to buy young players with the hope of developing them. On any given match day, you will find that at least half of the Arsenal line up would have joined Arsenal as teenagers. I think the big difference between the two clubs is that the youngsters at Barca have always been supplemented by world class players such as Ronaldinho, Eto, Larson, Toure, Deco, Henry, Ibrahimovich, David Villa to name a few. This is complete contrast to Arsenal where our young players are being asked to play along some players who mediocre at best. In my opinion, it will take a long time for Arsenal to match the performance levels of Barcelona, but if we are going to try and compete with Barca or any other top team in Europe, we are going to have to put our hands in our pockets and start buying some proven quality. This is the only way we can make the transition from a team that competes, to a team that wins.

  12. Babatunde

    May 30, 2011, 20:43 #7955

    Great article and sums up what I have said for so long: NO IDENTITY. Poor man's Barca, with a poor man's Guardiola pretending to be a revolutionary when in fact, he is a joke. Barca are class, a class club who do things on the whole like letting Abidal lift the trophy. They play the best football in the world. Arsenal have c*** like Diaby and Eboue, no pride, lose at home to Villa, 'lap of dishonour' every season. What football identity? We have tried to copy Barca's 4-3-3, pathetic. We don't have the players! Most of all, we DO NOT HAVE THE MANAGER! Arsenal make more turnover than Barca, the biggest problem is we have a manager with no clue how to spend it, players with no heart and passion, a bunch of mercenaries playing for us. I cannot wait until Wenger is gone, I will celebrate long and hard. A new identity is needed, we need to cleanse the club of this weak, effeminate French Colney creche (Myles Palmer TM) mentality. It's weak, pathetic, sickening and TROPHYLESS.

  13. Anon 1

    May 30, 2011, 17:49 #7950

    You conveniently forget that Barcelona were £480 Million in debt until they recently 'sold their soul' with a shirt sponsorship deal..also..the Van Persie sending off was far more critical to the outcome of the game in the Nou Camp than the Bendtner miss..even if Bendtner had scored, we still had ten men and there was about 7 minutes to play including injury time...must everything you write be an attack on Arsene Wenger? Speaking about identity truly is the lowest common denominator...even for you..so you could identify with a team of foreigners in 2006 but not now when there are more Englishmen in the squad?..even you admit the contradiction in your claim..it's all a bit tiresome now Mr Whitcher..ofcourse you couldn't resist praising Jose Mourinho in your article, despite the fact that Inter's victory truly was a fluke..such articles remind me why i've stopped buying The Gooner.....

  14. Rob

    May 30, 2011, 17:21 #7949

    Terry - above - On the Button ! Take a drink my man as that in a nutshell sums it up. Barcelona: 'More than Club'. Arsenal - 'a twice yearly balance sheet'. Spot the difference ! ?

  15. ardile

    May 30, 2011, 16:31 #7947

    What did Barca win between 1999 and 2005 whilst waiting for Xavi, Iniesta et al to mature into the kind of players Barca was training them to be? .... Success does NOT come to you - you GO to it! It takes time, endurance, sacrifice and perseverance to build teams such as Barca has now, if in doubt ask Barca or Ajax .....

  16. Jekyll

    May 30, 2011, 15:59 #7946

    Though with similar football philosophies, I think the difference between Arsenal and Barca boils down to what the whole set ups are essentially geared towards. At Barca, it's the pursuit of trophies, with money then flowing from that. At Arsenal, it's making money and whilst trophies would be nice, they're not going to go out on a limb to try and make it happen. Hence the difference between the two in what happens with youth players, with player trading, and so on.

  17. Bergy

    May 30, 2011, 15:52 #7945

    Barca and Arsenal have the same philosophy. But one team is probably the greatest of alltime and the other the laughing stock of English football...go figure. Barca showed how poor Man Utd are and yet we manage to finish 12 points behind them. Some complain that our players are too small so makes us vulnerable in defence and set pieces. Apart from Piquet, Barca are probably smaller than us but I don't see them leaking goals like us. It's down to coaching and player selection...in that Wenger is a poor man's Guardiola just as Arsenal are a poor man's Barcelona

  18. Mark2

    May 30, 2011, 15:52 #7944

    terry i am with you. there have been achievements but in the main they have been the stadium and the finances which have been distributed to the board, shareholders and manager who all appear to have lined their pockets at the expense of team investment. 1 thing sticks out about Barca is their passion. the passion of every single player and of the manager and president and everoyone associated with the club

  19. terry

    May 30, 2011, 14:44 #7941

    Ogban Ogab "I think some of us are over reacting to our season disappointment" - make that six seasons, "Barca did not build a stadium" - the purpose of us selling our soul was to compete with the likes of Barca yet all we've done is line the pockets of the board, Wenger and the dross we employ. Arsenal PLC has flourished since the move, Arsenal FC has gone backwards.

  20. Ogban Ogban

    May 30, 2011, 13:59 #7939

    Barca did not build a stadium!I'm fed up with these guys who see nothing positive in Arsenal. I think some of us are over reacting to our season disappointment.

  21. Andreas

    May 30, 2011, 13:50 #7938

    As Pep Guardiola has stated this team has stemed from the "dream team" of the early '90's. It's taken 15 years plus to see this Barca team dominate and see their academy deliver great players. Yet it has taken one of the dream team, Pep himself, to galvanise and give Barca their true identity back. Like Cryuff did at Barca, Wenger has set the ball rolling but has somehow lost the true identity of The Arsenal along the way.It will take the return of a true Arsenal man to give us back our Arsenal. Names such as Keown, Adams have been touted but also someone like Ray Parlour should be brought back into the mix. Look at Ally McCoist at Rangers, who would've thought the joker in the pack would be a manager. These 3 players are Arsenal, who know how to win and knothe clubs true identity.

  22. Christof

    May 30, 2011, 12:21 #7934

    I don't doubt that having a British core to the team would make it easier for fans to identify with players. But I think that the examples of Vieira, Bergkamp and Henry illustrate that they don't 'have to be' British. As much as anything nowadays players just live in a different universe to fans. It hardly engenders a spirit of unity. Add to that the endless commercialisation and commodification of the Arsenal 'brand' and it is hardly surprising that fans begin to feel more like consumers than supporters - and, consequently, act so.

  23. Sandeep

    May 30, 2011, 12:07 #7933

    What about the likes of ibrahimovich ,henry,chygrynsky? Arsenal have nowhere near the resources of barca.And i am sure clichy and song were brought b4 2006..as for bringing through english youth ,how is ashley cole doing in arsenal colours atm?

  24. Bob

    Jan 04, 2011, 20:14 #651

    Perfect summing up of the genius of Arshavin.Did Charlie George ever track back? No he fucking didnt.Did Anders Limpar ever track back? No he fucking didnt.But they were great players on the ball.It sums Arsenal fans up that they sing songs about that clown Eboue who Arshavin has more talent in his little toe than Eboue in his own body yet Arshavin gets slatted.What do you want Gooners a team of Eboue's Denilson's and Diabys???Arshavin will never be a workhorse but he does things in our team that only Cesc can do.And Wenger plays him out of position.Yeah we came to see Eboue at Left Back My Fucking Arse!!!!!

  25. The Happening

    Jan 04, 2011, 18:26 #650

    A welcome summary of our healthy festive exploits! Now, its increasingly likely that TV5 will remain sidelined for the rest of season, so will I be looking forward to a new CB coming along in January? Any ideas anyone?

  26. GoonerRon

    Jan 04, 2011, 16:24 #648

    A good positive blog, Simon, and pretty much reflective of my mood at the moment. We've certainly seen signs over Christmas that our passing game is moving to a higher tempo and I actually thought that our first choice defence in the Chelsea and Birmingham games defended very well in open play. Most encouragingly is we have our game-changing players coming into form at the same time - RVP, Cesc, Nasri and Theo all perfoming very well recently. Certainly an encouraging time to be a Gooner and long may it continue.

  27. Jan 04, 2011, 16:13 #645

    cool story bro