We Won, But We Are Not Winners

Arsenal has become like an addicted sibling



We Won, But We Are Not Winners

Ramsey: Laboured


Lately, I feel depressed after Arsenal games. Each week I look forward to the game, like a child before Christmas, especially after an international break. My expectations rise before kickoff, but, time and again, I am deflated with Arsenal’s performances. After Saturday, it has to be obvious to all we are no longer a top four side. How could we give that kind of performance after many were rested, the new signings, and the 8-2 shellacking by United still on the players’ minds? When will Arsenal make a statement by their actions on the pitch? Unless we go on a long run of wins, say 5 or 6, we can no longer be considered one of England’s elite teams right now. Yes, Liverpool lost, but Stoke is a proven Premier League team on the rise, not a newly promoted team who has still scored no goals in four games. Chelsea and Man City each won 3-0, and Man United 5-0 at Bolton.

By comparison, Arsenal had to rely on a terrible goalkeeping error to win. And only after we avoided a last minute equalizer, a total sitter in front of our goal. Yes, we had chances. Van Persie hit the post, Chamakh should have finished his header. Ramsey and Walcott both had clear chances yet missed badly. Can no one shoot on goal with accuracy anymore? If you are paid the ridiculous wages per week our team gets, your ability to put a shot on goal with little or no pressure has to be better. Does our lack of shooting ability reflect the manager’s emphasis in training and tactics? Tippy-tappy vs. shoot the ball!?

How you can be an Arsenal fan right now and not be p*ssed off about everything? From how the transfer window and off season were dealt with, to the way Wenger seems like a man far outside reality in his statements to the press. At his last press conference it seemed like he wanted our pity - His words: ‘In my job you expect to suffer. So that’s why, when I go to hell one day, it will be less painful for me than for you, because I’m used to suffering. I could write a book about the summer. I think it would be an interesting one.”

ARE YOU F…ING KIDDING ARSENE?! I cannot ever pity someone about his job who makes more in a week than I make in a year. Less painful? It’s almost lunacy. On his salary, Arsene could afford a couple of life coaches, two or three shrinks, several cheerleaders, and maybe a nice little puppy to cheer him up and help him forget about his rough, hellish summer. Don’t get me wrong, I am a happy person, outside of being an Arsenal fan lately. But, what used to bring me joy and excitement consistently each week, now only saddens and disheartens me. In the past, even when we lost, we usually gave a good effort, showed class and heart. Against Swansea, it seemed the total opposite. A few showed desire and heart (Frimpong especially) but others were tin men. The team looked disjointed, individuals instead of a whole, going through the motions at times. Maybe they need time to gel. So why didn’t we sort out the transfer business early, like United? NO MORE EXCUSES! Please, I can’t take them anymore.

I really have no more patience for Wenger’s awful tactics and team decisions, either. He certainly seems like an old horse past his time. I have no faith in him anymore. Yet, even despite all this negativity I feel, I still keep hope in the team. Arsenal has become like an addicted sibling, who cycles through periods of rehab, recovery, and then falls off the wagon again. And again. And again. They seem to change, promise it, make improvements, only to repeat the same mistakes again. Arsene keeps telling us fans how they have changed, how it takes time. This excuse, that excuse. How many fans were on the literal edge of their seats today for the last 5-10 minutes of the game hoping for a second Arsenal goal to finish the game, but deep down expecting Swansea to equalize? Graham’s miss was a complete gift! And Ramsey could have put any one of 3 players through at the end, yet the pass was again poor. This is today’s Arsenal.

We did start brightly, Arteta linking up early and pushing the tempo. Yet, again, we didn’t score. Only when Vorm blundered incredibly did we get a goal. The second half was poor. Ramsey looked slow and laboured, like the new Denilson. Wow, did I just say that? Did I just compare the Wales captain to a “deadwood” player? I know, it surprises even me. His sideways and backward passing was abundant and frustrating. He took 3 or 4 touches at least, many times, instead of playing the ball quickly and decisively. We badly need Wilshire and Diaby back ASAP. Even Diaby has more forward thinking than Ramsey. Currently, the pressure on Ramsey’s shoulders seems too vast to carry.

Walcott was even more frustrating. He had some chances, yet more often than not he dribbles into dead ends. Déjà vu anyone? Maybe the wing is not his optimal position, but Sinclair by comparison looked a lot more dangerous. I thought the back four looked ok, but I can’t remember one good cross from Sagna. During the game, I kept thinking how bad our players are with their weaker foot. How can you, at this level, not be able to cross and shoot with both feet? Our counter attacking was mostly non-existent, as besides Arteta, our midfield seems to slow things down to possess the ball versus put the opponent on the back foot. I was happy to see Chamakh come on as I think he could be good if given more crosses and support and is much better than we usually see. He nearly/should have scored off a great run and cross from Gibbs. The type we rarely see these days.

If the goal had come, I think the end of the game would have been different and much easier. Yes we got the win and the clean sheet, but we did not feel like a team of winners. You can say, at least we didn’t lose or tie, but is that all we really want as fans? Not to lose? There was much indiscipline and inconsistency, Frimpong and Walcott to name two. With players complaining like Walcott did, no wonder opposition players try to wind us up all the time. Van Persie had some good chances, yet still looks isolated up top by our formation, whatever that may be. Looks like a 4-3-3, but at any given moment if fluctuates. I thought Arshavin looked good early, but faded later. Interesting that Frimpong lashed out at him after covering his man in our own box and blocking a cross.

Swansea deserved at least a point. Normally I don’t care how we win, as long as we win. 3 points is 3 points, no matter how we get them. However, as fans we cannot be satisfied with the team performances. Do we want to experience another game like the United fiasco? What is Wenger doing in training? Where are the improvements being made? Where are the faults being addressed? Déjà vu again.

Make no mistake. The next two weeks are big, hugely important for this season and the future. Anything less than good, consistent performances and we could truly be out of league contention for good this season. Or top four for that matter. And all of our next opponents will be better, save Shrewsbury. Look at these numbers after the first four games. 18-3. Man United’s goals to ours. 4-0-0 to 1-1-2. Man United’s record to ours. Not to mention City and Chelsea. I know the AKBs will not like what I am saying, but when will they see what is right in front of their eyes? I do not want Wenger out. I just want him to wake up from his nightmare. Maybe he will, I hope he does, but I am not holding my breath. And try as we may, through blogs, protests, meetings, we shouldn’t have to be the ones to pinch him!

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  1. DW Thomas

    Sep 18, 2011, 15:18 #12962

    Just look at Mick Mccarthy's words after Wolves lost to QPR and compare those to Wenger's. Don't talk about willing spirit when your team just played so badly. First thing Wenger must do if he stays on is be honest with the team and fans. I cannot take more than anything else his nonsensical statements. Fix the ship by Spurs or he must step down.

  2. Mike

    Sep 14, 2011, 9:00 #12713

    @Radfordkennedy - could not agree with you more....most of these posts seem to come from people from and post George Graham era. Prior to that in the 60's and mid to late 70's Arsenal were mid table at best, having one or two good FA cup runs thrown in for good measure

  3. GaryFootscrayAustralia

    Sep 13, 2011, 17:31 #12710

    @seriously dudes, so Ramsey's the most overrated top - flight player of the past 20 years? Ever heard of Benito Carbone? Keith Curle? Carlton Palmer? Ade Akinbiyi? Do you have trouble telling the difference between Piers Morgan and Ernest Hemingway as well?

  4. R Meade

    Sep 13, 2011, 13:23 #12706

    Gabzevo how can you not be negative at the moment? this has been coming for five years or more, us stupid supporters who have never worked a day in football have been predicting this for ages now you did not need to be an expert to realise selling good players buying crap no tactics playing forth division players year in year out would lead to us being in the position we are in. Getting beat 8 - 2 is an end of an era result we all know it and that's the only positive to come out of all of this, whoever comes in it may well get worse if that's possible ie 8 - 2 biggest defeat in our history but it may well get better it's time to find out and has been for a least a couple of years.

  5. Radfordkennedy

    Sep 13, 2011, 10:09 #12700

    judging by the hysterical comments being made on this site,it seems to me that people are forgeting one important point,Arsenal are and always have been a cyclonic club,we have never built a 10 or 15 year dynasty like liverpool or united,we have phases of success then fall away untill our time comes again. goodbye to davis rocastle and thomas,hello hillier jensen and mcgoldrick sound familiar!,farewell charlie george and geordie armstrong welcome wilf rostron and bloddy trevor ross.The examples of not building on success are endless,we very rarely buy already proven stars so it should not come as a surprise to any supporter that we havent made any true stellar signings.Our time will come again it always does, getting behind the team is vital right now as they are a bundle of nerves as the feeling of desperation and trepedation is transmiting itself from the stands.The problem we have is that there are a great many fans at the emirates who started to follow us as schoolboys when wenger came,and who are now probably parents themselves and who have known nothing but success and atractive football,and are now experiencing for the first time what its like to be a true gooner,supporting a team that wont win all the time and will go years without winning trophies and that thats how its always been.I remember my dad lifting me above his head one night at highbury when the whistle went against Anderlecht and said"son ive waited 17 years for this",and i in turn waited 18 years from 71 to 89 to see us as champions again,this is all part of being an Arsenal supporter enjoying the success when it happens because our history says it could be sometime before the good times come back.

  6. gabzevo

    Sep 13, 2011, 9:15 #12698

    wow your are such neggy really get anoyed by supporters like you we know ur negative ... but pls stopp negging me out i dont think i'll return to this site as its been depressing me since the tranfer started

  7. Richard Ansell

    Sep 13, 2011, 8:28 #12696

    Ron - I know I should try to make the best of it too, but am finding it incredibly hard to do so. I know I have been 'down' about Arsenal many times before but this time I can't forgive the current 'powers that be' at the club for letting us fans down so badly. Good to know you and many others feel the same, but are just trying to be more positive about it than me.

  8. seriously dudes

    Sep 13, 2011, 0:19 #12695

    Ramsey is the most overrated player in premier league history- he makes countless mistakes every game and contributes virtually nothing. I`m glad he's out.

  9. DW Thomas

    Sep 12, 2011, 23:24 #12694

    A couple things to give you all some perspective. I apologize for the score error in the Chelsea game, but they did win fairly convincingly. Ramsey I agree has loads of potential but from being currently overplayed and given too much responsibility, he has not been performing to the usual Arsenal standards for a center mid. Not even close-whose fault is that? To me, these blogs are all about people's opinions. We are all hugely die hard Arsenal fans, young and old. I couldn't ever fathom watching and rooting for another team like I do the Arsenal. Not even if we ever got relegated, ever. When I say I do not want Wenger out, I mean not yet. No man is an island. He has to get results, like any other manager. Yes, we should be patient right now, but not forever. If we fail in getting a trophy again this year, I can already see him saying something like, "Well we did lose our two best players so what do you expect. It was a rebuilding year." That kind of excuse cannot happen anymore. We are nowadays too intelligent as fans to pull the wool over our eyes. No trophy or serious challenge for the title and I think it might be time to let him go. As for the performance against Swansea, let's look at it this way. In 07-08, we had a brilliant season, but did not win a thing. We played well, had team camaraderie, and were in a position most of the season to win. Eduardo's injury was huge, but you cannot let any excuses forgive the failure of the last few years. Injuries, money, players leaving, bad mistakes, etc., etc. And we have to all agree, from a fan's perspective, anything less than a true challenge for the league title or a Cup or CL trophy is simply not good enough. I think I understand the financial side enough as well. But, again, not an excuse. We have had enough to make team improvements, but Arsene or whomever is really in charge has to answer to these failings. Let's see how the next two weeks go. If we get good results (several wins and ties and no losses), we might gain momentum and confidence to carry us through to challenge on a couple fronts. That is not too much to ask. I for one will not accept mediocrity. No Arsenal fan should.

  10. Mandy Dodd

    Sep 12, 2011, 21:54 #12693

    Reading this makes me just want to end it all. How can you have a go at Rambo, not long back after a horrendous injury alongside a couple of new comers. Rambo is quality end of. The one player I would have a go at the start of this season is song, he owes the team big time. Time for him to deliver.

  11. muzzlejuice

    Sep 12, 2011, 20:11 #12692

    can't help feeling that you already had this piece drafted out in your head long before the final whistle and the fact we won the game instead of getting a draw was not going to stop your post.we won and with the players that we have we were hardly gonna come roaring back putting a cricket score past swansea in the process. wining is a habit and remember we have taken a small step towards re building the season after a very dismal start.

  12. chrisy boy

    Sep 12, 2011, 19:24 #12691

    i came home from work with every intention of writing something positive, sky sports news was put straight on and the top headline was ramsey injured in training, you just couldnt make it up could you, all of us that have played football at any level have all had to do training, but on the eve of our hardest champions league fixture and with mr magoo ( pat rice) in charge dont you think a jog or a relaxing swim might have been a better option espiecally with jack, and tv both out , rosicky and diaby also out and i believe theo suspended, thats just an idea mr wenger, but ive never worked a day in football , so what would i know !!!

  13. Ronster

    Sep 12, 2011, 19:05 #12690

    One positive is that the players we have recruited this summer seem to appreciate having the opportunity to play for The Arsenal.As a fan I welcome Arteta's delight and enthusiasm.Similarly it was good to read Mertesacker's comments after the match:''I still have goosebumps.We are in the motherland of football.It was something special.'' I'm sure we'll have intelligent comments to read from the likes of Park in due course....Adebayor,Denilson and co take note!

  14. Ron

    Sep 12, 2011, 17:18 #12689

    Richard I agree with you mate. I do see the argument that the 2 wealthy shareholders might have though if they turned round and said, 'why should i reach into my own pockets just because i can? I think Arsenal just has to evolve naturally now before anything changes. I feel Wenger will go next Summer anyway. The Board will then need to effect real changes to suit a new boss i.e if they truly want a top boss and not some reject, cut price also ran. Knee jerk actions like sacking Wenger now wont help. I suspect the Board know that Wengers going soon anyway and dont want to over commit to players who a new boss wouldnt want. Theyre just not telling us. Ive given up analysing it and hoping for radical change and just trying to make the best of it.

  15. CT Gooner

    Sep 12, 2011, 17:00 #12688

    After reading a bunch of these posts, I agree with the Fella who said we played too much for Fabregas. I don't understand why we don't go back to a 4-4-2. I don't think we have the quality in the right places for a 4-5-1, which is more what we play than a 4-3-3

  16. Richard Ansell

    Sep 12, 2011, 16:01 #12685

    Ron - the point I would make in reply to your comment is that it does not have to be like this. We have two billionaires on the Board, a magnificent stadium and yet we appear to be happy to play second fiddle to the likes of Manure, Citeh and Chelski. You are right that supporting a 'lesser' team can still be fun, but I can not get over the feeling that we have all been conned and that the club are taking us all for mugs. This is why DW Thomas and many like him are so fed up with the current state of affairs.

  17. Richard Ansell

    Sep 12, 2011, 15:10 #12683

    Couldn't agree more. Apart from wanting Wenger out ASAP and he can take the Board with him. I would welcome Usmanov, Dein and someone like Martin O'Neil like a shot. How are there still Arsenal supporters that can back Wenger and his miserly Board after so many poor performances? I just don't understand their mentality.

  18. Tony

    Sep 12, 2011, 14:41 #12682

    Totally agree.Watching United batter Bolton was like watching Arsenal 2002-04.Go out win the game in 30 mins.Long gone are those days.Our football is now so slow.Where is the pace in our game.Watching Hernandez burst a gut at 5-0 put our players to shame.Lets put saturdays performance into some prospective.Swansea are s**t and are going down but they deserved a draw.That is what we have become.And by the way United have a younger team than we have

  19. Loyal since 1980

    Sep 12, 2011, 14:25 #12681

    The performance wasn't great but I believe this will be quite common this season, we will see more games on general sale and more empty seats, the only people left will be the hard core 40,000 with the rest of the 'Prawn sandwich' supporters, doing a 'David Mellor'!

  20. JJ Williams

    Sep 12, 2011, 14:24 #12680

    @ GaryFootscrayAustralia - I totally agree with you. How can you come Ramsey to Denilson. You'll be comparing RVP to Bendtner next???????. Look lads these players had only been together two days prior to the game. Any kind of win would have done before kick off if you ask me, after that Old Trafford 8-2. Now we can move on. With Song and Gervinho now back from suspension we will get stronger and stronger with each game, which will give Wenger selection problems when Wilshere returns. Let be positive and see where we are in December.

  21. Gee

    Sep 12, 2011, 13:14 #12677

    Good god! Lord knows what state you'd be in if we had drawn or lost. Would you rather we play dazzling Football and not win, like what has happened numerous, numerous times. Quite how often in the past I have walked out of the ground thinking how the hell we did not win a game is beyond belief. If Chelsea or United had laboured to a home win they'd be deemed dogged and determined. Yet we are always seen as struggling if we don't play champagne football and smash side 4-0. Yes we struggled at times but we had enough clear cut chances to win the game. And we did. No team is ever going to play a game without giving the opposition a sniff of a chance. Never. Yet all I see in the post match analysis is how Swansea "carved" us open. After years of nice football and winning nothing I'm overjoyed when we grind out a filthy 1 nil win. Just keep ticking the 3 points over and confidence grows. Remember winning breeds winning? The players will go to Dortmund feeling a lot better having taken 3 points and not played well compared to getting 1 or 0 and playing briliantly. Remember we have kept 3 clean sheets in our 6 games played so far this year

  22. GoonerRon

    Sep 12, 2011, 13:13 #12675

    A slight overreaction to the performance I think. We didn't play well, but we got over the line with a win and clean sheet. A lot of new faces and it will take time to find fluency. Don't forget we had a high number of first teamers out which has an impact on our game too. Little steps are required to re-build the confidence, Swansea was step one and Dortmund is next.

  23. jambo

    Sep 12, 2011, 12:58 #12674

    haha spot on TT, this guy really needs some prozac in his life...did I go to the wrong game saturday? Only I thought we won? Yeh may not have been 5-0/3-0 or even 200-0 but for a tea lacking in confidence and with ne of the nerviest-crap atmospheres at home for some time - the most important thng was we won, which we did! honestly i'm sure people like you DW Thomas almost hope we lose games just so you can wrire a whiny, negative piece about arsenal to get some sort of weird satisfaction - honestly BORE OFF!

  24. Arsene is a Fraudster

    Sep 12, 2011, 12:44 #12673

    Harry G is a fully paid up member of the AKB. Fact.

  25. Ramgun

    Sep 12, 2011, 12:41 #12672

    'We need Diaby back' was great use of irony. You were being ironic weren't you?

  26. Ron

    Sep 12, 2011, 12:29 #12671

    Yep, Swansea merited a point. Sadly, your comments appear not to recognise (perhaps fail to understand)that football now is about big cash, have's and have not's. The trophies are there for City, Utd and Chelsea to argue over.This situation has been coming since the Premier League was formed. We were part of it, until RA arrived. We werent moaning then! The rest now take up the slack. We ve been there before. Supporting a Club can still be fun, even when your aspirations are lower than the top dogs of the day.You just need to get used to it.

  27. Evadztif

    Sep 12, 2011, 12:22 #12669

    Chelsea actually won 2-1 and was anyone at United complaining when they needed a late OG against West Brom to secure the points? A win is a win and it breeds confidence...that's a good thing...

  28. hec

    Sep 12, 2011, 12:22 #12668

    Wenger is ruining the players he brings in, he wants guys like Ramsay to play the Spanish wat , pass,pass,pass in/out/in/out till there is a opening, we have no Messi/Iniesta, Ramsay plays with power/we need to play the old A.C. Milan way, clost the other team down quick ,and keep going after the heart of the opposition,we played too much for Fabregas in the past.

  29. GoonerNW5

    Sep 12, 2011, 12:08 #12667

    Arsenal and Arsene need time to get the team playing together as a squad. Our next few games are vital, Dortmund, Blackburn,Bolton,Olympiacos, and Spurs with shrewsbury in between Blackburn and Bolton in the Carling Cup. If the team can come through these fixtures then things will look a lot brighter! Admittedly thet is a big if. Yet another rebuild is underway and if Arsene can keep the team competitive for the next couple of seasons until the stadiums naming rights are up for renewal, financially the club should be able to compete with anyone! More dead wood needs to be trimmed,ie Almunia, Denillson, Sqillachy etc, and the clubs squad players need to be given more realistic wages so that stars can be paid better. Also to counter the constant injuries sick note players need to be on a pay as you play basis and I am sure lots of the sick notes at the club will miraculously recover. Lots of work to do but I am sure Arsene is the best manager to take the club forward.

  30. Fletch

    Sep 12, 2011, 11:28 #12666

    I do find it amusing reading lots of blog writers who point out all of Wengers glaring deficiencies and then say they don't want him out, but just to change. To me this is just as mad as Mr Wenger himself. Wanting the man to change, when he clearly will not. We are stuffed until this incompetent manager is gone.

  31. okethi

    Sep 12, 2011, 11:19 #12665

    guys let be patient the players will get back.Another prob i see is our right wing Theo is better as acentral forward all in all Wenger was right to bring Joel but the poor FA rules cant allow him.Be gunners 4life

  32. Flux79

    Sep 12, 2011, 11:12 #12664

    A Win and a Clean Sheet now I know you and other doom mongers like you would have loved us to have lost so you can continue to roll out the same tired old anti Wenger lines today but we didn't and now have something to build on, why not try supporting the team and the manager rather than sitting in the sidlines making negative posts that help no one.

  33. Colonel Mustard

    Sep 12, 2011, 10:39 #12663

    errr....Chelsea scraped 2-1...

  34. GaryFootscrayAustralia

    Sep 12, 2011, 10:38 #12662

    Didn't bother finishing the article after you compared Ramsey to Denilson.

  35. Simon F

    Sep 12, 2011, 10:22 #12660

    We have new players, the manager is staying, the transfer window is shut and its simply time to start supporting Arsenal again and get on with it. Saturday was 3 points gained and a hopefully a new start to this season!!!

  36. j-lo-12pins

    Sep 12, 2011, 10:01 #12659

    I just can't understand the continued trust in Theo Walcott. I would honestly have swapped any player on the Swansea team for Theo on saturday. He is the most overrated, useless excuse for a player we have ever had on our books. Not only is he useless technically but he is an abolute plank. Get rid of walcott and we'll be a significantly better side.

  37. alan esparza

    Sep 12, 2011, 9:54 #12658

    great article couldnt agree more our time as top four is over as an arsenal fan of many years realisam has set in and it hurts could be a very long time before we are back

  38. Vyki

    Sep 12, 2011, 9:52 #12657

    These players had just one day training b4 swansea. Even some of them admitted that they need time to gel & understand the manager's playing pattern. I think it is still quite early to castigate them just yet. Some more games will show us a clearer picture of the new look arsenal. Nevertheless, good article.

  39. Mike

    Sep 12, 2011, 9:50 #12656

    Did you honestly expect a team that has several new faces in it, to click after one days training together - It took Man City a season to get it right and with a lot bigger names. Lets see how they go over the next couple of months. Not a convicing performance, I agree. The most worrying thing being that there is no finishing up front. Gervino may make a difference when he returns. Also not to forget that Swansea have kept clean sheets in all their matches prior to that. The next month will be interesting to say the least.

  40. chris dee

    Sep 12, 2011, 9:48 #12655

    We played like a team of the back of a 8-2 mullering.Shell shocked. We were OK'ish, we didn't concede and we won,a small step on a long road back. I thought the crowd were good and gave the team decent support although we could feel the tension in the players. Mertsacker and Arteta did well on their debuts although I hope the big German will be more dominating when it comes to defensive headers because he was a bit shaky when challenged strongly in the air. It is plain to everyone Gibbs is not good enough and gave another Denilson -like display at left back.And just think we could have bought Luis Enrique for 6 million quid.I hope someome at the club translates 'good solid defending' to the Brazilian bloke we have bought.In fact I hope someone translates 'good solid defending' for Arsene and the 'coaching 'staff but fat chance of that. But once again the team lacked leaders,characters who can stand up to physical challenges and inspire.Van Persie is not in a million years a captain and already looks like he mentally choosing which team to join as he is not gonna sign another contract at Arsenal. The players we signed should have been in addition to players of the calibre of Fabrigas and Nasri, then we would be talking.But if we could get all of our first eleven on the pitch consistently then there is no reason a top four place and F A Cup or Carling Cup success can be possible.

  41. HarryG

    Sep 12, 2011, 9:43 #12654

    Interesting article, good points but for me you lost all credability when you pulled out thr "AKB" bit at the end! Were all really really tired of this implied division of fans and any fool who continues to perpetuate it can go away....I am neither an AKB or Wenger out, I just support my team and I thought the dros I paid to see on Sat was appalling but stop trying to take the high ground you mug.....its boring

  42. Amrit

    Sep 12, 2011, 9:42 #12653

    This is football. Get over it. If you can't handle it go an start watching a sport which isn't so passionate such as cricket, or netball. Arsenal forever!

  43. TT

    Sep 12, 2011, 9:31 #12650

    Go back on the Prozac.....