The ghost of Vice Chairman past

What will old Scrooge be putting under our Red and White tree this year?



The ghost of Vice Chairman past

Will it be a case of ‘Bah Humbug’ in the New Year?


T'was the night before Christmas when, all throughout Highbury, rumours were stirring, and all the little strikers were shrieking “Buy me!! Oh please, Arsène, buy me!!” But alas, miserly old Scrooge was determined to hold on to his coin while all of the best strikers had to look for other clubs to join.

Go Chamakh, go Bendtner, Arshavin, Denilson, Fabianski, Almunia, Squillaci, Diaby, Djourou and, erm... Blitzen?!?

For you see, boys and girls, Ebenezer Wenger was in a real quandary, as, before he could buy any new clothes, he had first to dispose of all of his dirty, smelly old laundry!

50 and 60 thousand English pounds a week?! Paying that to Squillaci, Denilson, Bendtner, Diaby, Fabianski and Almunia really was an effing cheek!

So was our old Scrooge really as tight as we all had first imagined? Or was he just guilty of overpaying the few bad 'uns?

What he badly needed was some help with his team, so he prayed silently to be visited by his good old pal... Mr. David Dein!

Dein brought his knowledge and contacts and was willing to shoulder at least some of the blame. He even was brave enough to ask his old pal why on earth the Ox was not getting a game!

Merry Christmas, fellow gooners and, while I might be making Dickens and Clarke-Moore spin furiously in their respective graves with my little Christmas ditty, there are some serious matters to discuss and items to be added to our Red and White Christmas list.

First on the agenda is the clear out-of the aforementioned players who continue to haunt the Arsenal dressing room rattling their ghoulish chains, just like Ebenezer Scrooge's old pal, Jacob Marley.

Almunia and Fabianski have had more than enough chances to appear on the next decade’s worth of Danny Dire's (yes I meant to spell his name Dire) funniest footballing cock-up DVDs while Djourou, Denilson, Diaby and Squillaci are just simply not good enough for the Arsenal, whereas Arshavin, Bendtner and Chamakh couldn't even finish their Christmas dinner, let alone the numerous gilt-edged chances that always seem to come their way.

As has been mentioned by a few other contributors, we cannot sign many more players until we get rid of some of our overpaid, perpetual under-achievers and, unfortunately, they look as though they are going to take some shifting because of their ridiculously generous contracts.

If the much rumoured but admittedly unlikely January signings of Podolski and Götze fail to materialise, then Arsène Wenger must look at "internal solutions" for the second half of the season, and two possible "solutions" for competition for the wide forward roles appear to be emerging rapidly. Oxlade-Chamberlain and Benayoun have done the business when called upon this season, and one can only hope that all of their hard work is rewarded when Gervinho and Walcott are rested or dropped from the starting eleven. To call continually upon the uninterested Arshavin and the disabled Chamakh when Arsenal need to change things around in tight games is ludicrous when you have two hard-working, quality players like Benayoun and Oxlade-Chamberlain on the bench.

All the Arsenal fans want for Christmas is to see players who really try their hardest and produce an end-product to their play, and if we aren't going to sign anyone of note, then we would like the in-form players to be picked ahead of players who clearly no longer give a s**t about Arsenal F.C. or the fans.

Am I the only one who was hoping to see more of Miyachi and Lansbury this season, even if only in the cup competitions? They appear to be two exciting young players who would, at the very least, run themselves into the ground if given the opportunity, and their appearances for Feyenoord and England Under-21s respectively indicate that there is some real quality there too.

Instead of buying expensive Christmas presents like Götze, Vertonghen, M'Vila and Podolski, or giving the Tiny Tims of the squad (Lansbury, Miyachi, Oxlade-Chamberlain and Benayoun) a chance to produce, Arsenal are rumoured to be bringing in lumps of coal like Wayne Bridge on loan to paper over the cracks and maybe, just maybe, scrape into the top four again.

To all of the critics who always throw the "This isn't Football Manager!" comments at anyone who suggests that Arsenal should spend a chunk of their millions on some proven talent, take a look at the purchases of Scott Parker and Rafael Van Der Vaart for a combined £13 million by our own "noisy neighbours", and realise that, if there were bargains to be had in the last two summer transfer-windows, there could well be some to be had in this year’s January sales too.

When David Dein was involved with Arsenal, we signed Players like Bergkamp, Overmars, Pires and Henry, who were all well-known internationally before they came to Arsenal. Now we are making huge profits from the sales of our best players before they have even reached their peak. Dein may not be Saint Nicolas, but I believe that he has the best interests of Arsenal at heart and I think he is the only man who can convince Kroenke and Usmanov to invest the right amount of money into the playing squad and is definitely the only man who could convince Ebenezer Wenger to spend it.


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  1. MarkM

    Dec 29, 2011, 9:30 #16272

    Don't you just love objective opinions - John (post 17981) Wenger will bring in new players but they will be like all his other previous signings,they will be useless. - Henry, Vieira, Pires, Anelka, Petit, Vermaelen, RVP.............

  2. john

    Dec 28, 2011, 13:27 #16251

    Wenger will bring in new players but they will be like all his other previous signings,they will be useless.

  3. jjetplane

    Dec 28, 2011, 11:38 #16246

    Now the dust has settled on the painful start to the season Wenger is left with a squad reminiscent of the 70s - 80s. Workmanlike in a lazy fashion where the lager has been replaced with flash cars and watches. RVP cannot do this alone and like Fabre.... will have to go for his own football sanity. There is something very wrong at a club when the underperforming has left us scratching on the door of the top four. Without some sparkle and alot of gut this team will make 6th or 7th simply because Wenger does not know how to pressure his players. Probably explains why Theo is suck a roller coaster of a player - there is no one on the pitch or off it to push him beyond a Perry Groves stereotype! I do hope this is not the whole case but moving down a tier in the premiership heirarchy might be the kick 'good old Arsenal' need.

  4. Ron

    Dec 28, 2011, 11:21 #16245

    I was at the game and see nothing to get depressed over. We did all we could and the Wolves Keeper was brilliant. Worst ref ive seen in 6 years mind you! The papers are talking about Spurs as title challengers. I cant see it. Theyre on the same level as we are though so well done to them basically. Had the game yesterday have been won with a last min goal, no Wenger bashers would be on here today. Results of games can be wierd at this time of the year. I reckon we can get a top 4 spot at Chelseas expense to be honest. Its an average season for us, i know that and getting 4th hardly creates swirls of exitement for me but guys its one of those nondescript seasons that just have to be endured sometimes. I still reckon the FAC could be ours this time though, unless we re forced to abandon it. The CL is a non runner, Milan will have far too much for us.

  5. Jekyll

    Dec 28, 2011, 0:16 #16244

    I just want to say that Jonesey is spot on, he articulates the situation so well. As has been evidenced again tonight. People need to wake up to the game the executive are playing with them.

  6. Has reality sunk in yet..????

    Dec 27, 2011, 22:21 #16243

    5th or 6th place. 5th possible due to suarez. 58-60 points and no trophies. spurs in the CL with a lower annual wage bill. happy with that ? then fine. Kranjar, Pavlechenko, Huddlestone, Dafoe, Dawson,Ledley King, Jenas did not play today. Theyre first 15 players are better than our first 15. we wasted the close season and we will pay for it ! Henry homecoming will keep the sentimentalists happy but does it mean more points or are you being sold a nice story by your club again ??

  7. DW Thomas

    Dec 27, 2011, 19:50 #16242

    As many including myself have been saying, Arsenal can't ever seem to get over the hump. And, yes, I do want success for the team, but when you can't beat lower table teams like Wolves at home when others have slipped up, what hope can you have of winning the title let alone top 4. Why is it every team's goalie has the game of his life against us? We got complacent at 1-0 up with most of the half left. Who was watching Fletcher? Szcz has nothing much to do all game, but when he does, they squeak in a goal. Our subs disappoint again! Where is the Ox or Park? Why can't they get a sniff? The players in the team to start and sub is all down to the manager. And don't give me any b.s. about our injuries. Look at Man United yesterday! 5-0! What a statement about their intent to rival City. Champions win despite their injury woes and players step up. Ours did not and how many of these opportunities have we wasted the last 7 years just like this, when we could get into the top four and FAILED! It used to be we were fighting to get the top spot. Not anymore. How far we have fallen. And I can't stomach the talk of "team spirit" and "how hard we worked" when we tie or lose like today. Yes support the team, but expect more, demand more, as Wenger should!

  8. Joe Fitzpatrick

    Dec 27, 2011, 19:34 #16241

    Dave - Petty agendas? Sure, if you call wanting arsenal to fix the obvious problems and at least get somewhere close to winning a trophy! I don't mind missing by an inch or two but to persistently miss by miles and repeat the same mistakes over and over is just ridiculous. Humble pie? I'll eat humble pie when Arsene lifts the premier league trophy or the champions league trophy for arsenal.... But as I'm a still a season ticket holder I'll gladly eat the whole humble pie myself like a humble pie messiah if it means Arsenal win something of real note again! I don't enjoy being negative and I would much rather go back to defending Arsene Wenger (my childhood hero) but I can't. Type my name into the search box on the top right of the page and you will see that I used to be the biggest AKB around.

  9. maguiresbridge gooner

    Dec 27, 2011, 17:47 #16240

    well said canadagooner agree i'm saving what i have to say for the ed's report no doubt we'll hear from him soon

  10. Canadagooner

    Dec 27, 2011, 17:02 #16239

    how can anyone see past the players eh? referee even helps us with a sending off.. what a gong-show! last week everyone was saying why cant wenger play benayoun more... Mike, you might wish to review your comment? this is exactly why arsenal's never seen as a potential challenger in the premiership, fickle! i'm sure we would have beaten wolves if the match was played yesterday (the minute we sense an opportunity to climb the table, our fickle players get complacent). ridiculous display

  11. Mike

    Dec 27, 2011, 14:33 #16238

    For those of you who want a major signing -Torres @ 50 million has scored more goals for Liverpool than he has for Chelsea this calender year

  12. Dave

    Dec 27, 2011, 13:27 #16237

    The oneline gooner really is the pits these days. Some people *cough Joe cough* have very petty agendas that they find very difficult to hide, or make no attempt to. I guess it's because the humble pie they're having to now eat every week tastes particularly bitter. Don't choke on your turkey.

  13. Mike

    Dec 27, 2011, 10:21 #16236

    A lot of advice on who should be sold but very little on who should be bought - Goetze mentioned but consensus is that he is not coming - I honestly see nobody on the market who will individually, make a massive difference to the team Project youth is still ongoing and I can see why - Anyway watched Chelsea, Liverpool and City all drop points this weekend - hopefully Arsenal can end the year in fourth - after the beginning of the season most people would not have seen that coming - I am happy with the recovery no matter who the manager is - Spurs will falter because they do not have the squad to go through. they have eleven good players, but nothing to back them up- hats off to Man Utd - injury ridden and they still manage to be breathing down City's neck. Still think there is a surprise or two in the new year - Don't write us off yet as many here have

  14. Canadagooner

    Dec 26, 2011, 17:18 #16235

    @Joe Fitzpatrick - all good mate. your articles are fun for sure + you're a good sport (you dont get all defensive) and you accept comments as they are (other opinions). some good results in today's games - hope arsenal capitalize tomorrow. all the media-fuelled noise about man city chould hopefully slow down a little now. all that money and they now have the europa and man utd down their throat - let's see how they cope...

  15. Dan h

    Dec 26, 2011, 9:17 #16234

    Seasons greetings to all!Interesting article again nothing wrong with people having different views & makes for a healthy debate.Some good news on Sagna the club are being very conservative on his recovery the end of january at present is the longest estimate but looking like he may well be in the squad for our trip to Swansea with a view to starting against Utd on the 22nd.Will also add Wolves have been linked with Frimpong on loan but QPR & West Ham are also looking to do a deal.

  16. Mark M

    Dec 26, 2011, 8:30 #16232

    So David Dein has the best interests of Arsenal at heart? That's why he cashed in all his shares. I accept that there were 'difficult relationships' within the Board - however he had two choices - take the money (he did!) or hold onto the shares in order to maintain his involvement and power within the club. Is it just coincidence that his son was reportedly the agent involved in big transfer deals away from Arsenal - Henry, Fabregas, Nasri and now potentially RVP?

  17. Jonesey

    Dec 26, 2011, 2:05 #16231

    Dein coming back wouldn't make any difference to anything, he and Wenger are still best mates whether he's on the board or not so if the manager was going to change the habit of the last few years and spend the vast amount of money that we have available it would've happened already. Unfortunately there's no pressure on him to change, the absentee owner and the MD chosen by Wenger defer to him on transfer and salary decisions, and many fans that have watched us shamefully crumble away in 3 of the last 4 title run-ins when money has been available (but unused) in january to give us the best possible chance keep trying to convince themselves and others that he's finally going to see the light. But it's going to take more than a few deadline day panic buys (when Wenger wasn't even in the country) and a subsequent decent run of results to make me believe in Wenger again, especially when he still does ridiculous things like persisting with lazy b******s Arshavin and Chamakh instead of giving Park and The Ox games ahead of the African Nations Cup. So guess we'll just have to put up with treading water until he retires, because with him being surrounded by yes men inside the club, and many fans too scared of the unknown to call for change, 4th place is the best we can hope for despite our massive disposable wealth.

  18. Joe Fitzpatrick

    Dec 25, 2011, 23:40 #16230

    @canadagooner- I like to have the craic with my articles as well as making some serious points because that is what a fanzine is all about. We can say things the media would never get away with. @Mandy Dodd- Gourcouff seems Like a good shout but, would he be able to cut it in the EPL? I really hope he can! Also... Anyone know much about the young brazillian lad from sao paulo we've been linked with?

  19. Mandy dodd

    Dec 25, 2011, 22:38 #16229

    Dave, we may well not be getting gotze or mvila, but how about gourcuff? Just another rumour I know, but maybe the two players you mention are smokescreens for another target?,or maybe not

  20. Ramgun

    Dec 25, 2011, 19:54 #16227

    Dein would have had us playing in the London Borough of Brent as a sports business franchise using the name Arsenal. Dein, like all of the others, took the money. The cult of Dein is ludicrous. It is every bit as daft as those who support Wenger whether he is right or wrong.

  21. Gare Kekeke

    Dec 25, 2011, 19:24 #16226

    @Peter Lindstedt; Arsene Wenger, the best in the business? Wenger deserves credit for his overall outstanding contribution to the club, but please don't you or any other AKB make him out to be the best manager in the world. To date, OGL has yet to win back-to-back titles or a European trophy. That's the hallmark of greatness. The unbeaten title of 2003/04 was special but sadly he hasn't backed it up. And he is the ONLY manager in football history to have lost finals in the European Cup, the UEFA Cup and the now-defunct European Cup Winners Cup. Wenger sadly rests on his laurels after ONE trophy win hence for me the reason he very rarely wins trophies in consecutive years. Greatness is not finishing top 4 every year without a trophy and dressing it up to be a magnificent achievement. I'll give you two examples of greatness. Sir Matt Busby: building a second great Manchester United side in the ten years after the Munich air disaster in 1958 that would win 2 league titles, the FA Cup and the European Cup. Brian Clough: taking not one but two mid-size East Midlands clubs from Second Division obscurity to English champions and in the case of Nottingham Forest, back-to-back European champions. No-one is asking OGL to do a Chelsea or Manchester City but people like me are asking him to spend the clubs' money wisely. And that means not rewarding potential with obscene subs of money e.g. Diaby, Denilson & Bendtner earing between £50-60k a week and seeing that so-called potential not fulfilled. Although granted, OGL aided in the lack of development of these players eg. playing Diaby & Bendtenr at times out of position and the failed conversion of Denilson from a promising alternative to Cesc to lightweight DM because he couldn't be arsed to sign a more established DM. And before the AKB's question whether this is the case, ask amongst yourselves why the club's wage bill for last season was a staggering £124.4 million. But granted, that takes into account ALL employees at the club. I personally don't expect OGL to bring in players in January as he has already cited the return of Messrs Wilshire, Gibbs, Sagna & (don't laugh!) Diaby as a reason not to strengthen the squad. And I personally believe there is a reluctance from OGL to do so. I'm also against the return of Dein although I believe we could do with a new order at boardroom level to bring in some badly-needed ambition into the club. I don't mind Wenger developing young players but it should not be the be-all-and-end-all mantra of the club and should not dictate his transfer policy. I no longer buy into the hype of our our so-called 'great youngsters' as this was the case between 2004-07 and look what where it got us. I've said ot before and I'll say it again, a change of management is what the club needs and we should not be afraid of it. There will be some top managers/coaches available next summer we should pounce on one of them. I'm amazed that so many Gooners would settle for mediocrity under Wenger than see renewed success with another manager. Yes, we have no devine right to win anything but we should be acting like the thirs biggest club in England that we are and not act like the paupers Wenger and the board have been making us out to be a recent years. We make over £200 million a year and the club makes out we don't have a pot to piss in. I think Everton may have something to say about that.

  22. DW Thomas

    Dec 25, 2011, 19:06 #16225

    I agree Joe. If RVP or Ches get injured we will be a shadow of the current team. Unless, we replace Cesc with someone special, get a quality back up for RVP, and find a keeper who is good, yet, content to back up. No easy feat, I agree, but what is Wenger paid $7 million a year for? 4th place? Ridiculous if again we find ourselves 4th or worse and out of all the cups around where we were last season. If Arsene truly knows and can do what it takes to win, why doesn't the team ever get there? Everyone has injuries, players wanting to leave, tough schedules, etc. Yet, winners still prevail. They deal with the negatives and get through them still on top. It is this area where Wenger fails and then says judge me in May. All the while without bringing in the quality, necessary replacements/additions when he has the money and opportunities. What a joke the transfer windows have become for this club! Instead of saving us, we stagnate or worsen. Can you imagine Alumnia again in goal? Or Denilson jogging back on another opposition goal? That would be a complete farce if ever we see it!

  23. Canadagooner

    Dec 25, 2011, 16:19 #16224

    @diving rooney: you sir are the voice of commonsense and reason! you couldnt have put it any better, and i've spent months saying the same thing. it isnt a crime to be a little positive is it? if managing in the premiership were so simple, many more would have succeeded. and if wenger had been listening to the negative folks on here, arsenal would still be waiting to win our first trophy in 15 years and we certainly wouldnt have RVP to save us this season as he would have been sold when the negative-army on here wanted wenger to sell him few seasons back.

  24. Canadagooner

    Dec 25, 2011, 16:07 #16223

    @Joe - perhaps you should have put it that way then. What I particularly like about your comments over the past few months is that you are very objective. If that objectivity can be injected into your articles I for one will simply read and say no more, as there wouldnt be much more to add. note though, that Walcott wasnt an overnight success (remember all the doubters when wenger suggested him to Sven for the world cup and he never got a game, even though he would have played better than most of the prima donas we played) - i wouldnt call RVP an overnight success either, as he's been with arsenal since 2004? and we're only seeing his consistent best on 2011. So, how do you decide when perseverance is to be cut short? Diaby has been plagued with injuries, does that mean he may not bounce back? most commentators on here make it sound like a manager's decision is so simple: sell him and him, buy him, him and him: seriously? we wanted samba and cahill this summer, now chelsea want cahill (and that's that). neither of them have really performed well in 2011 so, who's to say they'll fare any better than what carroll's showing at liverpool? do you buy players on present form or historical form? or promise? or use the onlinegooner crystal ball? Wenger can do nothing right in your eyes and some folks on here will stay negative regardless: they just cant be happy - it's nothing to do with wenger or how well arsenal does, bitter/negative people will always stay bitter and negative - that's what keeps them going. you only have to look at some of the comments on here even when arsenal win (and i'm sure they were the same type of comments in 2004, 2005, 2006.......) Wenger needs to be less stubborn, buy some more experienced players, get serious about winning something and not just his failed philosophy - but apart from those, he's a brilliant manager, deserves a great deal of respect for what he's done and a great deal of support from all of us so he can get back to doing what he used to do and get us winning trophies again. I dont see many managers out there who would do any better at arsenal.

  25. Joe Fitzpatrick

    Dec 25, 2011, 10:50 #16222

    CanadaGooner- Wenger knew all along that Henry would be Anelka's replacement as he worked with him as a kid at Monaco, just as he knows Walcott will one day come inside as a striker. I'm not saying that he has never produced great players it's just so weird that the man who brought through Toure, Vieira, Henry and co persevered with Denilson, Bendtner, Diaby, Almunia and Fabianski for far too long. We have a first 11 that can challenge anyone on their day but injuries to Chesney and Robin will kill our season.

  26. will

    Dec 25, 2011, 9:50 #16221

    The perennial problem for gooners, fantasy over reality. Yes it obvious we need quality players especially up front but will Wenger buy in Jan? No, because he never does (Ash a notable exception). The transfer policy is as clear as daylight. We buy cheapish players and pay them good wages, so of them work out Sagna,TVM some of them dont,Chamahk Daiby. Then we invest in loads of younger players a few work out but most dont. Thats the way its been and it wont change.

  27. Joe S.

    Dec 25, 2011, 2:28 #16220

    Totally agree Joe, even if scrooge remains tightfisted why haven't we seen more of the younger brigade in the Ox, Lansbury and Miyachi. Compared to the nothing performances of the highly paid dedawood what does he have to lose. Outside of the solitary wonder strikes of our captain marvel the remaining stikers have been amongst the most inept in the club's history.

  28. Canadagooner

    Dec 25, 2011, 0:18 #16219

    I wont be too harsh with my comments as it's quite clear this article is Joe's opinion and a lot of the information is simply factually flawed as has been pointed out by some of the commentators below. Did Dein by Henry as a striker? I seem to recall Wenger was the one who worked out where best to play him. Offloading Diaby would be similar to cries to offload RVP those seasons when he grappled with injuries. As for the complaints about what we're paying some of our under-performing players - i'm sure it's far less that chelsea are paying Torres or Liverpool are paying Carroll or Man Utd are paying Berbatov. Every team has to carry some deadwood. if it were so easy to pre-determine how a player would turnout, we wouldnt need scouts or managers and each team will just buy using a crystal-ball! it tool Man City 3 seasons of buying and trying out several players before they got to where they are, and where exactly is that? Europa? - until they win convincingly and sustain such performances, they aint there just yet. Even with chelsea's billions, they still continued to change managers as they couldnt win it all (no champions league, no treble...). football fans are simply too impatient these days - we wont go from winning nothing for 6 seasons, to superstars overnight. quit your moaning and exert more energy singing on the terraces and let's see how things pan out

  29. Danny

    Dec 24, 2011, 21:48 #16218

    my wish for the new year , is for wenger to resign or get fired. he is running this club to the grounds, without adding quality to the team the sod is paid to coach and win trophies not to look after teh finances of teh club. thats the diretors jon plus i want the russian as the sole owner with DEIN BACK!!!!!!!!!!

  30. chrisy boy

    Dec 24, 2011, 20:46 #16217

    i think im right in saying we have to pay half of any players wage if we sign them, that would be £45,000 for wayne bridge, what a waste of money, didnt you all remember his performance for west ham against us last season, so hope that rumour is not true, we should do the upmost in getting rid as many of those players you mentioned and bring in 2 or 3 new signings to carry us forward not only for this season but for the next 3 or 4, for me this transfer window is all about quality not quantity. Merry xmas to all gooners, come on you gunners

  31. Joe Fitzpatrick

    Dec 24, 2011, 20:40 #16216

    Merry Christmas gooners! Thanks to Kevin, Mike and all the gooner team that make this website possible. Come on you Gunners! Let's hope for a big win on the 27th!!

  32. madgooner

    Dec 24, 2011, 20:15 #16215

    Brilliant article Joe.Agree with virtually everything you say. John K take your blinkers off.Now Im not an AKB or an AMG just someone who has loved Arsenal Football Club since 1962. I have the utmost respect for what Arsene Wenger has done for our great club but like you Joe he is driving me mad with some of his decision making. The dud players you listed are the main cause of division between the fans.On the one hand he says we cant compete financially with chavs, citeh and on the other he continues to spunk millions on these losers. Sit and work the sums out. Six years of Diaby = 18 million eight years of Almunia=24 million 6 years of Walcott the list is endless with very little return for our money. For me its Wengers biggest weakness and sadly if it continues the way he will be remembered by a lot of fans. That is his failure to admit mistakes on players and his lack of ruthlessness in doing something about it.We are doing Ok at the moment but our squad has no depth so we all know whats going to happen come the end of the season.Happy Xmas.

  33. Andrew Cohen

    Dec 24, 2011, 20:06 #16214

    Arsene Wenger is brilliant. He is strawberry flavoured and should be leader of his country, or president of the world. Just a little Christmas present for the AKB's. It is after all, the season of goodwill.

  34. DW Thomas

    Dec 24, 2011, 19:22 #16213

    The main issue I see is this: Has Wenger rethought his Project Youth and is now willing to buy the experience the team has so badly needed? If not, I think we may not finish top four. And even if we finish 4th, that is not good enough in my book. To me the measure of success is winning something. Who will remember who lost the 2010 WC Final in 20 years? Or last year's CC Final? Sure, allow Wenger to keep developing quality players like Jack and Coquelin, but inject some badly needed midfield and striker quality and experience to push these youngsters harder and mature them faster. If once again Wenger's head remains in the sand and no one is bought or some unknown youth talent who is only for the future, he should get blasted in May when we are out of the CL. Yet, if he gets the team to 4th by some minor miracle with the squad he has now, he will be praising himself and his team all over again, for failure! Just like the past 6 seasons! What a load of B.S.! All you need to see things for what they are is a clear, educated mind in the matters of football (and no, that doesn't mean you worked in football or played at a high level), pay attention to how things have gone at the club these past several seasons, and what has been said and promised, and then it is easy to see this club does not truly care about winning trophies the way it must be done these days. I am not talking about the routes of Chelsea or Man City, but spend some money we have in the bank to improve our depth and bring the creative side back to bed in with our improved defense. Otherwise, there will be no trophies or even CL next year. Only coal in the fans' stockings.

  35. CrimboGoon

    Dec 24, 2011, 19:13 #16212

    We Need to get together and partition for David Dein to be back where he should be in the club, its his influence that would of had the players we wanted in the last window rather than let them slip into the hands of other clubs.

  36. chala

    Dec 24, 2011, 18:07 #16211

    I thought this was to supposed to be the site for Arsenal fans... This boring illusion of being knowledgeable of football matters by armchair "strategists". Oh dear, oh dear.

  37. Peter Lindstedt

    Dec 24, 2011, 18:05 #16210

    David Dein has my utmost respect and I love to see him involved again. I should say that for me Wenger remains a giant among whinging minnows and that I stopped buying the Gooner after the ManU game last autumn despite my respect for Kevin and other contributors. What I could never understand is the lack of support for AW when two of the players he made world class departed against his wishes. I was taught to help a man that is down not to kick him. This still applies for my brothers and sisters among the away scheme fans. As for the young players that did not quite work out: I am spending my life trying to make talented young people world class in a different job and some just do not make it. That is life. AW is the best in the business as SHOULD be evident. Support the team that you claim to support - "STAND UNITED".

  38. Peter Wain

    Dec 24, 2011, 17:42 #16209

    TRhe only thing certain about this transfer window is that if we bring in anybody at all they will be below average cheap and at the eleventh hour. We are a selling club who do not buy world class players just charge world class prices.

  39. Mark

    Dec 24, 2011, 16:23 #16208

    is diaby wenger's illegitimate son ? what does he see in him ? is he still on the beach ? we are heading for a hearbtreaking 5th or a realistic 6th. chelsea adding cahill ensures they stop giving away silly goals and ensures theyre top 5. spurs are for sure top 5. we picked the wrong year to have a terrible close season and we will pay for it with our final position in the league

  40. divingrooney

    Dec 24, 2011, 16:04 #16207

    And you still say its not a antiWenger.com? Ridiculous tripe. All offside Adebayor is getting paid 200k, headless chicken Kolo Toure - 150k, dont know defending Clichy 100k, Berbatov collects 100k for doing nothing, whie Owen gets 80k to make an appearance a season. Still you are against players who are playing for Arsenal, you make not like them but Chamakh had a fantastic start to last season that enabled us to get top 4 position. Bendtener was amazing in insuring us a top 3 position before last season. Denilson is an attacking midfielder converted into DM, remember his amazing Carling Cup performances. When Flamini (after 1 good season) leaves cause his contract expires, you blame Wenger, and when he give contract to promising players, you again criticize him. Seems Wenger can never win...

  41. The Happening

    Dec 24, 2011, 15:15 #16205

    I think Miyaichi is injured, but believe me is a fantastic prospect, would love to see more of him! Thanks Joe for your sobering presence on our beloved celebration of all things Gooner, Merry Xmas!

  42. Dave

    Dec 24, 2011, 13:19 #16204

    Good article, agree with Wenger spending money on the wrong players in terms of wages etc. You don't need to spend a fortune to acquire world class players these days and I really hate the fact that Wenger can't see the woods through the trees. If anyone thinks that players such as Gotze and M'Vila are heading to the Emirates they need a wake up call as they are overpriced and cost too much for Ebenezer Wenger in any case. Europa League here we come how exciting.

  43. Grant

    Dec 24, 2011, 13:15 #16203

    That old Dein myth again! Read Pires autobiography and you'll see that Dein had nothing at all to do with bringing him to the club. He hadn't met any of the directors until he arrived at the training ground having agreed to sign the contract. If Dein can take the credit for helping to sign some successes then does he also take the credit for McGoldrick, Kiwomya, Hartson, Glen Helder, Jeffers or perhaps even some of the players you want out now? We're far better off withou oily Dein brown nosing his way around football.

  44. Mandy Dodd

    Dec 24, 2011, 13:03 #16202

    I would not be against the return of Dein but the fact is, according to the Alex Fynn article on this site, Wenger and Dein are still in very regular contact, so he may already have an influence on Wenger. Wenger has changed a few things lately, maybe a small part down to Dein - who knows? I would not rubbish the signings he has made this summer though, the likes of Arteta look every bit as a good a bargain that Parker to me. Remember, Parker, like a lot of things at his club is 70% a good player, 30% media hype. The main issue I would wish regarding Dein...that his son stays away from our players.

  45. Joe Fitzpatrick

    Dec 24, 2011, 12:43 #16201

    John K- sorry for ruining your Christmas. So you are saying that you don't want Dein back and/or you don't want a top class striker for Christmas? Oh alright then, socks it is again for you!

  46. Jekyll

    Dec 24, 2011, 12:36 #16200

    Wenger certainly ain't Scrooge when it comes to paying unproven players far beyond what the market would determine. If you reward potential, why would potential feel the need to be fulfilled? More backwards logic from Wenger, to go along with letting players work out their mistakes rather than coaching them, worrying about 'killing' players etc.

  47. John K

    Dec 24, 2011, 12:15 #16199

    You're shaming yourselves by publishing such tripe on this day. Am I reading the online spud or what?