What makes an Arsenal fan?

Some attendees left the Spurs 5-2 game somewhat prematurely



What makes an Arsenal fan?


I have a confession to make which it has taken me 21 years to get off my chest . I walked out of Wembley after Gary Lineker's second goal (and Tottenham's third) in the 3-1 semi-final defeat in 1991. It has troubled me ever since, and the reason that I did it at the time was that I found it really difficult being in a stadium of whooping, ecstatically celebrating Spurs fans for another twenty minutes. As I walked down Olympic Way, false rumours filtered back to me - "Campbell has scored", "it's 3-2 and we're all over them" claimed idiots clutching transistor radios - remember them? (The transistors, I mean; the early- leaving idiots spreading false rumours are very much still around.)

I regretted deserting my side almost as soon as I left. I have supported Arsenal since 1958, and never done anything like that before or since. As it was, the club wasn't in the doldrums exactly, going on to win the League and losing only one game in the process despite having two points deducted. Maybe it was because it was Tottenham, the most painful defeat of all, that I did it, but I was wrong and I bitterly regret it. Sorry, lads.

I recalled the incident to mind this week because my PA went to the Tottenham game with her brother. As Adebayor's penalty hit the back of the net, two men in her row left the ground. I laughed like a drain when I heard it. How stupid did they look and feel afterwards? I wonder when they found out what happened next? Perhaps they will recycle my feeble excuse that they couldn't stand being in a ground with ecstatic Spurs fans, but that doesn't hold water.

They left early because they are useless fans, of no value to Arsenal in terms of their support, because it is clearly conditional on Arsenal doing well. They have clearly made no commitment to support the team through thick or thin, and they are typical of the new breed of fan, particularly an Arsenal fan, who only expects success and has no interest in the club when they are not top of the table. Yes, it hurt enormously to be two down to Spurs, but the most objective fan would have had to agree that we were already playing them off the park before we scored, and played like demons in the second half.

Now, let me make my position quite clear. I am very critical of a lot of the things currently happening at Arsenal. I am very far from an AKB, but I have enormous respect and gratitude for what Wenger has done for our club overall. In fact, he has created this expectation that we must always be successful, because, before he came, we yo-yoed violently between success and mediocrity.

My relationship with Arsenal is, one friend aside, the longest of my life. Like a lot of faithful Gooners out there, I have seen us when we were mind-numbingly awful, and I have also become immeasurably proud of the team on numerous occasions. The bad times help you to enjoy the good much more acutely. I well remember in 2002/3 we embarked on a long unbeaten run, ultimately ended by a kid called Wayne Rooney at Everton. During a routine win over Sunderland earlier in the season, as the second goal went, in my mate turned round and said "this is becoming a bit boring!". He is still a loyal Gooner, follows us all over Europe, and loves the club to bits. He now realises it was a daft thing to say, but it illustrates the point that, for the committed fan, adversity defines your allegiance every bit as much as success.

I could recite several reasons why I think the new breed of fan has emerged. You can blame society, modern attitudes, Sky television and inter-personal relationships in a world of social media but, whatever the reasons, we find ourselves with a stadium at Ashburton Grove that is habitually filled with 40,000 Arsenal nutters and about 15,000 people whose support is totally conditional on continued success. The nickname for these people is "plastic" fans, and we certainly have a lot of them at the Grove.

These people are not only changing the face of Arsenal, they are changing the face of football; in fact, they are changing the face of society as a whole. We talk a lot about disposability in packaging and products, and football support for many people is like that. “I am an Arsenal supporter until they displease me by not winning as much as I want them to, when I will look around for a new team. How are Chelsea or United doing?” While I accept the argument that people are entitled to vote with their wallet, I know - and anyone else who has football in their blood knows - that changing your football allegiance is one of the hardest things you can do. I live in Kent, occasionally go to Gillingham and look for their results, but you couldn't possibly compare my interest in them with my passion for Arsenal.

There's also another thing which is particularly magnified by the Spurs and Arsenal rivalry. All too often, I see it spilling over into a sort of tribalism that is so intense that I fear people may be losing their sense of perspective. The sort of tension during the 5-2 win, especially at the start, made this more than a football match. We know why, because they have (temporarily) stolen the bragging rights, but hang on, get a life. We have finished above them fifteen times in a row and have only lost to them in the League a handful of times in twenty years. We've won the League as many times at their ground as they have won it in their entire history. Let's not get so wound up that we lose all perspective simply because of a few mouthy Spuds.

My family aside, football is the great love of my life and, by football, I really mean Arsenal. They are my club and I will support them to my dying breath, whatever Kroenke, Gazidis or anybody else tries to do to them. Even when they were pathetic, I've gone and supported them. Believe me, that makes the good times - and, frankly, we've had some sensationally good times at this club - even better.

Every time I read a blog-comment cursing Wenger or Hill-Wood in the sort of invective that has no place in a criticism of what is going on at the club, I will try to convince myself that it is a die-hard Gooner who just can't take it any more and is suffering an extreme reaction . I will try to empathise with the many thousands of Gooners for whom the club is a way of life and who have an affinity that will never die, how ever old they get or however old or infirm they might be. My old dad loved the Arsenal as did his dad before him (that's 100 years of family support stretching back to Woolwich). He impressed on me at an early age that you must never boo an Arsenal player during a game and that you must also accept, as a supporter, that into each life a little rain must fall.

He would be incredulous that people left sixty minutes before the end of a glorious victory over the old enemy, just as he would be incredulous that we ever bought Sebastien Squillaci! But being puzzled by your club's actions must never be confused with being a fair-weather, success-at-all-costs-or-I'm-off fan, the like of which we see at the Emirates much too often. To those fans, I'd say this great club has been around since well before you were born and will be around long after you depart. It stands for something very special and it belongs to us all. There is no guarantee you will win trophies or that one day we won't be relegated, but - sad as it may be - I'm a Gooner and I can't help it and, wherever they go, I will try to be there too. I just hope a lot of people feel the same.

Up the Gunners!


NEW! Subscribe to our weekly Gooner Fanzine newsletter for all the latest news, views, and videos from the intelligent voice of Arsenal supporters since 1987.

Please note that we will not share your email address with any 3rd parties.


Article Rating

Leave a comment

Sign-in with your Online Gooner forum login to add your comment. If you do not have a login register here.

57
comments

  1. John Gooner

    Mar 14, 2012, 12:29 #20283

    A good message to all those who walked out or booed Theo. We as fans, must never boo a player who gives his all for the club, especially a boy so decent, many of us would be proud to call him our son. We MUST extol the virtues of being an Arsenal fan right up until the final whistle, just to show the Moan U / Spurs fans the class of the Arsenal faithful. I have never been so proud to be an Arsenal fan as I was to see the support of the fans at the 8-2 defeat to United. I (temporarily) live in Manchester; following that match I sought out my Arsenal shirt to be worn for the rest of the day. Yes I got a lot of stick, but I will always be proud of the way the fans reacted.

  2. AugustusCaesar

    Mar 13, 2012, 17:56 #20259

    Very enjoyable piece. It's funny because generally in life I'm quite sceptical and cynical about lots of things but with the Arsenal I always try and remain positive. Like some kind of weird inverse universe. In many ways its completely rational to be sceptical or wary about things that really matter in life and entirely irrational (although it *feels* rational) to get carried away about a football team and maybe that's why I always have a rose tinted view about Arsenal. I'm not sure I'm making any sense at all here?

  3. TheWineMouse

    Mar 13, 2012, 2:16 #20229

    I left my seat when adebayour stepped up for the penalty.I couldnt watch it.Me and my mate deserted the East Upper and joined our friends in the West Lower and had the time of our lives

  4. When TV5 scored on 94 minutes and 5 sceonds

    Mar 12, 2012, 23:05 #20227

    There are empty red seats behind Theo when he put the cross in?! Who in their right mind would leave rather than stay and will the team on to get a vital winner? How is that 'support'? Jokers! Anyway, those that stayed were great and were rewarded with crazy scenes.

  5. brady79

    Mar 12, 2012, 21:13 #20224

    We're not the only club with plastic fans and it's not a recent phenomenon. Once went with a family member to see Stoke play Leeds just after Brian Clough had taken over. Stoke fans streaming out with more than a quarter of an hour to go, so they could get the bus home before the crush started. Score stood at 0-0. Stoke won 3-0: priceless!

  6. CT Gooner

    Mar 12, 2012, 14:29 #20214

    I agree with Jeckyl, the ownership is who have changed the face of Arsenal. We can all go on about the good old days, and what you think makes a Gooner, but who's going to the games is simply marketing. Don't tell me Park wasn't just for Asian exposure and selling shirts! I agree plastic fans are a problem, for me it's because they give Kronke his profit without any question of earning it. That may be the big difference though, perhaps a true fan cares little of the "club" paying them back. I'm proud of the "TRUE" fans speaking out about the backward direction this Manager and squad are going, we take stick, but our hearts are in the right place.

  7. Ron

    Mar 12, 2012, 14:07 #20211

    I reckon fans of any Club are more or less the same these days. There are 'plastics' at EVERY club you care to mention too, though i believe the proportion per Club is perhaps higher at London Clubs than elsewhere, all London Clubs (could be wrong but thats my impression anyway). Ive never left early but im just one who wants value for money and it doesnt have to be a win. I drive in to the games (im a masochist!). Having said this i reckon there are far too many 'fans' in this awful SKY age for football who identify themselves by which Club they follow, which is as sad as it gets in my view. It causes the unpleasant atmosphere between fans these days to a great extent. They need to get a life basically. Look at these spud posters on here for eg. Typical but sad. Ive finished going to games at the Seasons end having been going to the Arsenal since 1967. Why? The cost is too high for the product. I dont find the games at all exiting anymore. I dont like what footballs become, cheating players, whinging bosses and rubbish refs along with a thousand other things including the excessive media coverage it gets and its true, many of the fans are irritating, ours as well as others Clubs fans. Football had hooligans when i started, so i suppose they were the plastics of the era, but the 'feel' at football stadia today doesnt do it for me anymore, early leavers or not. Il still love the Arsenal club i suppose, but im not sorry i wont be making the effort again.

  8. Judge Fred

    Mar 12, 2012, 13:57 #20210

    Laughing at the Spud Will. 1919? That the last time you won the league wasn't it? Further about "stay in Woolwich" - rich coming from a club that wanted to move to Stratford recently but failed. Just leave us alone here and go back to 'cocksonourshirts.com' or wherever it is Spuds fans hang out.

  9. Possible solution to people leaving early

    Mar 12, 2012, 13:19 #20208

    The single main reason people leave early is to avoid the crowds. I've often wondered if it would be possible to have an exit from the back of the top tier (the four 'corners' where there are jumbotrons and the opposite sides)leading outside onto an aerial walkway taking you high over the crowds. Fantasy land, or an impressive feature worth considering? The view would make leaving a pleasure.

  10. Red Member

    Mar 12, 2012, 12:43 #20207

    the best way to deal with Spurs fans is ignore them remember that Spurs only exist for Arsenal to beat them!

  11. Dorset Gonner

    Mar 12, 2012, 12:13 #20205

    Good article and agree that there are more Plastic fans around these days! But what can you do!?! Reading though the comments I can see Spuds on here again! Will - No one cares about your views on here! Just remember we've the won the league at Shi** Heart Lane as many times as you've won it in total! Small club mentality (you need to log on to an Arsenal site to see what the big boys are talking about!)

  12. Dave

    Mar 12, 2012, 11:27 #20203

    A fantsatic article! It's a sad indictment that many genuine supporters remain priced out. Our move and subsequent increased capacity, has not improved accessibility for the working class and the young. It is galling seeing those empty seats knowing that there are kids on the local estates and people who are struggling financially who would love to be at the games.

  13. Ichi_1

    Mar 12, 2012, 10:53 #20200

    TBH I've left games a few minutes early on many occasions but that's always been when the game has been over one way of another. Sitting at the very top of the stadium is a right pain and I'm always one of very last out if I stay until the whistle blows. Yes I feel guilty sometimes and I've missed a couple of goals but for the most part I feel getting home an hour earlier than I would have than if I seen a couple more minutes goes some way to justifying it. Have to admit this season I've only been to a handful of games. One of them was Milan away but still. Last season I went to 40 but with the hike in prices I've decided to vote with my feet and show that I'm not happy to pay the highest prices in world football if the money isn't been used to improve the team. Some may call this shallow but I'd like to point out that I'm on the season ticket waiting list and when I eventually get offered a shiny one with my name on it I'll take it gladly. Part of the reason I've barely been this season is due to the God awful atmosphere in the ground which comes from the large number of people there who don't care about the club. Away days I can't do most of the time as I'm playing Sunday football this year. This is sounding like I'm trying to justify not seeing my club to myself and TBH it probably is that way. I just hate the thought of me filling Gazidis and co's pockets which will only encourage them to keep running the club the same way. Let's face facts. If the stadium was basically empty for a couple of home games they'd have to look at reducing ticket prices or appeasing the fans in other ways. Quite frankly the 6% hike for this season was a joke after selling Fab and Nasri and not replacing them. The board and owners need a kick up the backside and as we all know with businessmen, the only thing they understand is money

  14. Judge Fred

    Mar 12, 2012, 9:40 #20197

    Football clubs today (esp. in the PL) want 'customers' not fans. Customers who will happily pay £60 per ticket, another £30 in the club shop, followed by £10 for a half-time drink and pie. The fans who were essentially working class people are being replaced by the more upwardly mobile middle-classes in stadia like The Grove. The issue here is that as the working classes are being priced-out of PL football, so are tomorrows supporters - the kids who 25 years ago could pay £1.50 and stand to watch their heroes play - win, lose or draw. Consequently we have an aging population of supporters in top level football and less young supporters with an emotional attachment to the clubs.

  15. Oliver Chessis

    Mar 12, 2012, 9:21 #20196

    Just class. Thank you for posting. This has set me up for the week, and I cannot wait for the game tonight.

  16. Tony Evans

    Mar 12, 2012, 8:39 #20195

    Great article, Peter. You 'pre date me' by 10 years as I started my love affair with Arsenal in 1968. Arsenal are second to my wife and family only and I agree that some of the 'new' fans that jumped on the Arsenal success story of 1998 - 2005 are not great at accepting that things are not always so rosy in the garden.

  17. ed enough

    Mar 12, 2012, 6:25 #20194

    Finally a piece worth reading.....great stuff Pete....What makes supporting Arsenal different....One word...CLASS. Everyting about Arsenal is Class, and always has been...How many other clubs decorate their own boardroom with the coloured flowers of the visitors on a matchday???

  18. Question:

    Mar 11, 2012, 22:55 #20192

    does anyone have a tactful method of getting through to those people who leave early? Nothing counter-productive. Fans turning on one another won't help, but we need to get through to them that their actions are deeply irritating and detrimental. They seem unaware that their support is needed until the final whistle. We need a collective push, not half-hearted flakes, deserting the team.

  19. Hallsey

    Mar 11, 2012, 21:52 #20191

    Nice post. However couple of comments. Apart from Bolton away this season I've been to every premiership Arsenal game. But when Adebarndoors penalty went in, I like many others walked out for a beer and a sulk. Does that make me a plastic? Guess so. We all carried on watching on the 3 second delayed TV's and also went berserk when RVP equalised. Went back for the second half and apologised to everyone around us for having a tantrum.

  20. Joe Fitzpatrick

    Mar 11, 2012, 19:57 #20188

    It doesn't matter if you have been supporting the team since 1886 or just this last week. If you are a Gooner thats all that should matter to anyone.. lets try and continue with the noise levels and fantastic support inside the stadium against Newcastle and no leaving early please!!!

  21. Yes, I feel exactly the same my Gooner friend

    Mar 11, 2012, 17:37 #20186

    Outstanding article - my sentiments entirely. I feel very strongly on this. I find the modern breed of fan that sails in late chomping on a hot dog (oblivious to themselves) and leaves early nothing short of dispicable. When we were beating that lot 4-2 the other year heading towards 90 minutes there were so many empty seats it was untrue. No wonder the team switched off. Surely everyone would want to stay and applaud the players over the line? There are two types of fan - specatators and supporters. The former expect to be entertained like it's a trip to the theatre. They sit on their hands, make no noise, except to moan, tell people to sit down and generally kill the atmosphere. They dilute the passion. The latter type of fans are just that - SUPPORTERS. They support. Unfortunately many a true fanatical supporter has been priced out by the new breed of JCL, tourist, fickle corporate and plastic away dayer who won't sweat if it goes wrong. They've helped kill football's soul to an extent and we cannot let them do so any further. The worst thing, they don't even know it. Or care. We cannot let them call the shots. I've got to the point where I prefer fellow die hard fans of other clubs to these breed. Anyway, those of us that feel like this will prevail. We are The Arsenal.

  22. maguiresbridge gooner

    Mar 11, 2012, 16:51 #20185

    Good piece peter i can't understand people arriving late and leaving early its expensive enough and i like to get my moneys worth and the people going out two or three times each half for a drink and a hot dog and like some body has already said it's always the ones sitting in the middle of the row the amount of action these people miss can they not do without something to eat for ninety minutes as i've said before a mate has club level seat if you want to see a real plastic fan go there don't get me wrong there are plenty of die hard gooners and genuine fans but to many in trench coats and suits i realise you don't have to wear an arsenal shirt to be a fan but what does it say when you only come out for about twenty minutes each half then head back to the bar but the team are on a roll now and long may it continue with the visit of the toon and yes it's good to be talking about something different and has every body noticed the sad spuds fans on here and when they refer to anything or some sort of success it has happened such a long time ago (in black and white)not so long ago ten points behind after tomorrow night one, you must be really creaming your pants now.FOREVER IN OUR SHADOW

  23. Nick

    Mar 11, 2012, 13:18 #20182

    Great article well written and composed, and echos my feelings exactly, i can honestly say that apart from a couple of games when i was a young boy attending with my dad, and we left 5mins before the end of the games, i have never left any game before the final whistle, nor when watching on tv do i turn over or off however we may be faring, and i would remind todays generation of supporters of this , in 1968 we lost at wembley 1-0 to a goal from terry Cooper after our keeper Jim Furnell bless him , had been blatantly flattened by one jack charlton, the following year we also lost, on probably the worst excuse for a pitch that the grand old stadium of wembley has ever produced for a showpiece game, to 3rd !! division Swindon Town, an awful and shameful result that had this 14 year old boy, as i was then, in floods of tears, that sort of puts last years defeat to the blue noses in perspective wouldnt you say, but , after those consecutive knife thrusts to the heart we went on to claim the fairs cup at highbury on an unforgettable evening , then only a year or two later, the DOUBLE for the first time, at the home of the old enemy who were then a far more potent force than they are these days, on a night forever etched in my memory i had queued from 1 30 to 5 30 when the gates were finally opened, and inside was an incredible scene, apart from a small pocket of die hard fans of the unspeakables, the ground was awash in a sea of red and white, the noise incessant from first whistle to the last, my point here is, quite often you have to suffer adversity before triumph, so dont despair just keep the faith.

  24. Mike

    Mar 11, 2012, 11:54 #20181

    Brilliant article - my old dad also loved Arsenal and when they were crap, he'd say they were crap, and depsite many lean periods when they played much worse than now, you knew his allegence would never faulter - something also instilled in me - come on you gunners - lets overturn the best Spurs team in 50 years

  25. Half Full

    Mar 11, 2012, 11:02 #20180

    Always makes me smile when people leave early when we're losing - I remember the smug bloke who walked out 10 minutes early cursing the team and confidently predicting we would lose when we were 1-0 down to Man U a few years ago. You know, the one where Thierry got the winner in injury time. I've never left early but then I'm a tight bastard who wants his money's worth and at £1 per minute I'm not going to a miss a second whatever the score and no matter how bad we are. And you never know with football. Unless you're Arsene.

  26. Moscow Gooner

    Mar 11, 2012, 10:15 #20179

    These f..king 'early leavers' are a real pet hate. It was OK on terreacing but in an all seater they disrupt your view, and break up all support and atmosphere in the last three or four minutes when we should be getting behind the team to the maximum. Cretin on my row with six minutes to go in the AC Milan forced his way through to leave - does it every game. How do you leave a game like that??! I guess he missed Henry s goal against Blackburn - great! Imagine if we d forced a fourth goal before the end against AC, in twenty years time would he really be crowing to his mates about how he managed to beat the crowd and get to the tube in time to catch whatever was on Channel 4 at 9 30..? Early leavers should be put up against the wall and shot - or at least forced to give up their season tickets - simple as that.

  27. Spike

    Mar 11, 2012, 10:05 #20178

    Paul, did not Spurs fans celebrate like they had won the world cup when they got a 4-4 DRAW against their superiors a while back? I seem to remember a commemorative DVD as well - about as lacking in class as it is possible to get. What are we supposed to do when we beat you, sit still?

  28. Gerry Lennon

    Mar 11, 2012, 6:22 #20176

    2 things to note@ - The very thing I get annoyed at ... Spouters of infantile rumour! Perhaps you have something to say about Aaron Ramsey? If you have noticed the team has done very well in his absence too? If you do, please keep it to yourself.

  29. ****4Life

    Mar 11, 2012, 2:14 #20175

    I probably should have added that 'cos I lived so close to Highbury growing up I used to go to Arsenal home games before I was old enough to travel away. Went to see more than a handful of orient games too. Just loved being at matches. Probably seen Arsenal far more often live than most of the 'plastic' Arsenal fans. And, yeah, I never left early and always cheered for the opposition.

  30. Clockender1

    Mar 11, 2012, 0:09 #20174

    Good article. What makes an Arsenal fan ? - someone who treats supporting the club as a lifetime commitment. For richer or poorer, in sickness and in health, til death do we part. Also someone who appreciates triumph through adversity - like TA5 banged up, points deductions, joke sending offs, media hate, FA disdain, having to win at anfield, Parma, dodgy keepers etc etc. let's face it, Arsenal never do anything the easy way, and if you can live with that then you are Arsenal.

  31. 2 things of note

    Mar 10, 2012, 21:39 #20171

    Arsenal havnt been the same since Arshavin was dispatched back to Russia. Rumour is he was disrupting everything. his close friend is Abramovich who was probably paying him on the side to slow Arsenal down. Spurs have not been the same since Arry got the england job in his own head. monday night is critical

  32. Mandy Dodd

    Mar 10, 2012, 20:17 #20169

    Great piece by a true fan. As for the Spuds bragging rights, if we beat Newcastle, those of supporters of supposedly the greatest Spuds team in 50 years will hang by a thread.

  33. ML

    Mar 10, 2012, 20:00 #20168

    This is a great piece from a true Gooner, well done mate! Though far in Asia here, i tried to move away from the tele each time Arsenal plays big teams especially the neighbour, not bcoz my passion grown thin but i feared I brings bad luck to the team. But the 5-2 a fantastic testament i'm jz superstitous! :)

  34. CanadaGooner

    Mar 10, 2012, 19:49 #20167

    Hating Spurs and winning = Arsenal Fans All the idiots on onlinegooner saying Harry this, Harry that; he gets more out of his players; their wage bill is low; bla, bla, bla. Got me so mad I had to devote an entire article some weeks back to talking about Spurs and how Arsenal cant be compared to Spurs for years to come! They just havent done enough yet to warrant such comparison and they will finish 5th this season behind Arsenal and Chelsea. Was it so difficult to understand that Spurs need to actually win the premiership (even if just once!!) for anyone to take any notice of them. After this post, I am going back to what I've done with Spurs for the last 20 years: IGNORING THEM! they simply do not matter. huff, puff and finish 5th spuds! good luck in the Europa next season (a tournament made for ya!) Back to talking about important stuff...

  35. Chris

    Mar 10, 2012, 19:32 #20165

    @Paul - one point. That's what it'll be by Monday night. One measly point.

  36. goonercolesyboy

    Mar 10, 2012, 17:23 #20164

    To that cockerel Paul...if you have something to say go and say it on your own site you poor deluded idiot...I wouldn't go near your web site at any cost...so p*ss off. Great article by the way....the site has been a lot calmer recently because of the positive results, maybe the players feel that positive energy from the fans and are playing with the passion we all hope they would show week in week out...Myaichi looked good today for Bolton so if all the younger players come back fit and well, Lansbury, Wilshere, Frimpong then it has to bode well for the future.

  37. Mark

    Mar 10, 2012, 17:21 #20163

    The Arenal 'fan' has changed dramatically since I have been going to football. It used to be mainly loyal supporters mostly from London with a proper reason for supporting the club. Now it has become a middle class club full of middle age businessmen who come and go as they please. I spent one game in a box and it was so depressing. There was no one around who had supported the club for more than 10 years. They did not 'get it' and simply couldn't understand why we weren't winning. This is the changing face of football especially at Arsenal. They will continue to buy their season ticket 'just in case' but will not come if we start losing. They don't sing; they probably don't realise we play away and they leave early. On Monday they will tell everyone how they support 'the Gunners' but will go very quiet if we lose. It is sad, but I sense a small return to the genuine fan and a little bit of atmosphere again.

  38. Jekyll

    Mar 10, 2012, 17:19 #20162

    Yes, there has been an advent of the 'plastic' fan but the trouble is the club have actively encouraged this with the pricing out of many of the original, hard core working class support and the promotion of the 'matchday experience' i.e. spend tons of cash in the shops and food outlets before and after the match. If you're disappointed with the atmosphere and attitude of so many match day goers these days, then target your ire at the executive of our club who have sought to turn it into a theatre going experience by targeting a middle class demographic.

  39. Paul

    Mar 10, 2012, 17:02 #20161

    To qualify to be an arsenal fan you must satisfy some simple criteria. You must celebrate like you have won the world cup when beating your superiors in blue and white. The fact that you do celebrate in such a way though is a dead givaway that you hold them in such high esteem. You must also come from a very warped family, who else woud allow you to support a team with Arse in their name and Arse as a manager. Therefore you must be able to accept you are a bunch of Arses. Lastly you just need to accept that the only cups you will get for many years are the ones sitting in the cupboard of the club canteen.

  40. Jimmy

    Mar 10, 2012, 16:59 #20160

    A terrific article Peter - thanks. And a great comment from "asian gunner" too - clever stuff. I used to leave games a couple of minutes early when I first started going with my Dad, but after missing a Chippy Brady equaliser against Sheffield Wednesday in the FAC in 79 (we hadn't quite left the ground so rushed back in to watch extra-time - no goals), I made him realise how futile it was and we never did it again.

  41. Gooner 48

    Mar 10, 2012, 16:55 #20159

    First, last and only time I left a home game early Gerry Ward scored Arsenal's 5th goal against United in 1961. I love it when sub-standard fans leave early and we score late goals: they get all they deserve.

  42. asian gunner

    Mar 10, 2012, 16:38 #20158

    WHAT MAKES AN ARSENAL FAN? That's easy! FAN and fan. There are all kinds of fans. Electric fans, paper fans, bamboo fans, fans made from feathers of large birds stuck to the end of long poles, and there are battery-operated handheld fans. BUT ALL OF THEM HAVE THE ARSENAL LABELS IN THEIR HEARTS. Featherlike Arsenal fans looks nice and even elegant but they are the softest, easily damaged at the slightest mishandling, becomes useless. Such fans will leave Arsenal when things go wrong, never to return..not the best kind. Paper Arsenal fans, are light and easy handheld ones and useful...even with nice 'Arsenal pictures' (designs on their shirts) BUT they must not get wet. Once it rain, they run for shelter, .... they walk off when things not going right for the team on the field, e.g. being a few goals down. Some gets dry up (realise that life goes on and get over the bad results) and do come back, some dont. The battery-operated Arsenal fans are interesting! Their energy levels depends on the life-span and strength of the battery...i.e., They are very vocal and shouting and singing when results are good, when the team is doing well on the pitch. But then when the team is struggling or facing defeat, their 'battery levels' become low, they just froze and kept quiet. They need good results to 'recharge' and get going again...singing, shouting, etc..! The electric (Arsenal) fans, ..well, they have greater speed and power, higher super energy levels, more than those battery fans. Probably it comes from having some beers and drinks - hopefully not from dopes - before the kickoffs, and they are boisterous all the time. They are the most passionate and highly vocal NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS ON THE FIELD! But then then need constant supply of electricity to keep going. Electricity, being dangerous, can be harmful...these electric fans can ("harm") start to boo and boo their own team and players and manager too. However, it'll be a mistake to doubt their love and loyalty to the club! Finally, the bamboo Arsenal fans. Bamboos...they grow steady, straight, long (years!), and tall....and strong, almost unbendable! They are mostly silent too! Bamboo Arsenal fans are like this! Silently watching, supporting, strongly loyal whatever the results, regardless there's trophies or not, they remain Arsenal's fans for life!! Just like bamboos, their support for the club is strong and unbendable.

  43. Spurs4Life

    Mar 10, 2012, 16:19 #20157

    Obviously I'm not an Arsenal fan but I grew up in Highbury before moving to the US. I respect all real fans. yes, I despise Arsenal but I respect their 'true' fans. I now live in New York where most "soccer fans" are United, Chelsea, Arsenal and, now, City and their support is completely conditional and entirely based on past success. My best friend is a Gunner season ticket holder for 20 years who often gives the home games to his son and friends because of his perception of the 'plastics' at the Emirates. He prefers to travel to the away games (across Europe) because he knows he's surrounded by true supporters. I get up at 5am to watch my beloved Spurs if they play early. I watch the game with the local supporters club and, thankfully, because of the perception that we're a smaller club, the environment is devoid of 'plastics' (our US term also). I have greater respect for a U.S "Toon" fan I met than the new supporters drawn to Spurs that we'll inevitably get if we maintain our current success. And, yes, I creamed my pants when Lineker's second goal went in....

  44. Dover Mick

    Mar 10, 2012, 15:56 #20156

    Brilliant article. I whollly agree. I am not a Wenger fan but am immensely grateful for what he has done. I just wish that he wasn't so stubborn as he may well be regarded as a hate figure in years to come. You are spot on about never booing your own, I would also add that I never cheer an opponent! Once again well done mate great piece if work

  45. Antarry ally

    Mar 10, 2012, 14:58 #20154

    Absolutely the best positive column i have read GOD Knows When,..bleave me arsenal is so unique that u just fall inlove wit it.

  46. Derp

    Mar 10, 2012, 14:54 #20153

    Indeed, what makes an Arsenal fan? Or what makes a fan in general? Does it all reduce to petty tribalism and naive distinctions of identification? Arsenal does have its historical innovations, moderately high success and historical set of ethics. But in relation to Wengerism, for me there is no going back. Wenger's style of football and his own ethics is something genuinely worthy of support, and he has deserved much, much greater success. I fear after he has gone, support will eventually be for yet another soulless business exploiting petty tribalism

  47. Will

    Mar 10, 2012, 14:54 #20152

    Ordinarily I would say something postive about a club who do not use the money cheat to win but after the multiple attacks on Bale recently by gooners, after you had the Henry/Pires diving team create onfield ballet, I think being a gooner is about accepting that dishonesty in your club is acceptable(1919 anyone?) and that you all seem to think that you have a godgiven right to be always in the CL. I actually expected you to win as I knew that 2 bad defeats in a row and the England/court case stress on Redknapp had to have an effect especially with the form of RVP but not being into schadenfreude i find it hard to accept in others. The lack of appreciation shown by some of you to Wenger is also appalling. Doesn't anyone remember the way you pretended to play football from 1968 to 1990? Without Wenger you would still be the Wimbledon of Nth London. Valiant effort vs ACM though. Mixed feelings? yes...I could like your club if they had only stayed in Woolwich and not cheated in 1919. Chances of publish? 5%

  48. LaurenPenaltyTaker

    Mar 10, 2012, 14:34 #20151

    Excellent post!

  49. Gerry Lennon

    Mar 10, 2012, 14:25 #20150

    I cannot claim to be born 'into Arsenal', or have a life-long commitment to the club. Nor am I one of the fair-weather' fans you describe as the 'new breed'. I have never been to Ashburton Grove, or likely to ... distance and domestic commitments decide that. My 'support' stretches to membership via my subscription to the 'Arsenal player'. I have an emotional attachment that makes me happy with success, and depressed with defeats, but without it ever getting distorted if I viewed things 'through my pocket'. I too have replied on websites that seem to have an agenda to destroy what we have (if, with the above confession, I can say 'we'?). I try to put a more realistic view, taking in all factors, not those just spouted by the media. I do not suppose I change opinions, but it may inspire like-minded fans to raise their voice a little more often. But, and this is my point, even at 2-0 down to Spurs and recent history pointing towards another end of season collapse, I knew I would tune in to the next game, and the next game, still a fan wanting Arsenal win. Simple as that. For that reason, as fan, I will continue to hope for Diaby's rehabilitation, rather than condemn him as a hopeless case, I will still hope that someone will supply Walcott with the right ball more than once or twice in the game, I hope more than anything that Arsene Wenger can hand over to the next manager a trophy or two, apart from an excellent crop of young talent and a 'bought and paid for' stadium. None of these are guaranteed. But you don't get guaranteed success in football? However, hopes fulfilled are very sweet indeed.

  50. RLH

    Mar 10, 2012, 13:28 #20149

    Quite simply the most erudite article to have graced these boards. This is what I expect & enjoy to read on a fan-site.

  51. Gillinghamgooner(nonplasticfan)

    Mar 10, 2012, 13:25 #20148

    I understand what your trying to say but you generalise too much by saying the fans who boo or are upset with the team at he moment are plastic fans you will find if you look a bit deeper that there are a whole bunch of fans who are loyal, love Arsenal but a currently very very frustrated not because the team are not winning the league but it appears that so many of our problems have been self inflicted either by arrogance or stubbornness, losing players we should never of lost and not replacing quality players. Wenger has been great for the club and I still believe he is the man for the job but his unwillingness to accept any critism of the team, to accept that some players are simply not good enough or to allow a fresh face in the assistant manger role is reminiscent of a dictator declaring the war is almost won whilst the enemy is bashing down his door! The way the club also seems to operate like a fascist state by issuing blatant propaganda on the official website and the way you can only thumbs up a article but not thumb down just adds to the frustration. The very fact that I love Arsenal so much makes it all the more annoying as you sit their scanning the net waiting on transfer news day after day hoping that wenger will pull another rabbit out of the bag only for that hope to turn to dred as the deadline approaches and we have not got any of the quality players we have been linked with and even worse they have gone to one of our rivals. I will support Arsenal till my dying day but I admit to losing the faith now and again but this is not because I am plastic or don't know about football I fact it's the opposite I do know my football I just wish my club did not treat me like some uneducated cash machine and our manger would stop playing the fiddle as Rome burned and got in some help before he ruins his own legacy.

  52. tissiam

    Mar 10, 2012, 13:24 #20147

    what an article!it just warmed my heart and gave me hope!!like u said there is nothing we can do aboutPLASTIC FAN but what we can do is support our team through thick and tick and be grateful for all those memories past and FUTURE ...UP THE GUNNERS!!!

  53. Father Yanto

    Mar 10, 2012, 13:23 #20146

    "I have a confession to make which it has taken me 21 years to get off my chest . I walked out of Wembley after Gary Lineker's second goal (and Tottenham's third) in the 3-1 semi-final defeat in 1991...............but I was wrong and I bitterly regret it. Sorry, lads." For your sins take three Hail Bergkamps, and an Eboue De Sanctum.... Amen.

  54. redallover

    Mar 10, 2012, 13:22 #20145

    Great article. Sums up a lot of my own feelings. You support your time through thick and thin, whilst reserving the right to criticise in the pub. How any fan could leave an Arsenal game early (and I have seen it many times) is beyond me.

  55. RVP93

    Mar 10, 2012, 13:16 #20144

    Probably the best article I've ever read about Arsenal, this is what you call a true gunner and not plastic fan, who for example always moan "WENGER OUT" when something doesnt go our way!!!COYG

  56. rosalind

    Mar 10, 2012, 13:11 #20143

    i feel exactly the same as you well said, fan for 40 years home and away, ups and downsis part of footbal otherwise it would be boring you only get passion from losing,it hurts.

  57. exiled&dangerous

    Mar 10, 2012, 13:02 #20142

    As it's confession time - I left a pre-season friendly away at Peterborough United ten minutes before the end as I only had one train to Birmingham where I was living at the time. Missed two goals. And being now priced out of attending, I did chuck the towel in at 6-1 down against MUFC earlier this season..... but I was in a pub full of plastic Mancs. I haven't been to Ashburton Grove yet, maybe one day I might be able to afford it, but somehow think I would be disappointed with the corporate feel and the surrounding plastic fans. But I wouldn't leave fifteen minutes early to beat the traffic, what would be the point of going in the first place?