Near Miracle in Munich

Online Editorial – Arsenal salvage pride in Euro exit



Near Miracle in Munich

Fabianski – Assured performance


It was a strange game against Bayern Munich last night. The home side had most of the possession and far more attempts, but Arsenal were the team that converted more chances, just not enough. It is difficult to really weigh up the quality of the performance given the circumstances, but there is no disputing the achievement of the result. Wenger’s team can often be described as the nearly men in Europe in recent seasons. They nearly beat Liverpool in 2008, Barcelona in 2011, Milan in 2012 and now Bayern. They nearly won the final in 2006.

The defence certainly performed more creditably than the last outing at Spurs. Koscielny and Gibbs replaced Vermaelen and Monreal, whilst in goal, Lukasz Fabianski surprised many with a solid display. It will be interesting to see if he starts against Swansea at the weekend.

The early Gunners goal was the dream start they had been hoping for, but then it was a long wait until the second. In between, there were cards aplenty, with a Bayern side whose fluency and authority from the first leg had gone AWOL. Arsenal threatened occasionally, but rarely genuinely threatened the home side’s goal. A key moment was a horrendous offside decision given against Theo Walcott after the interval. He was clean through with an excellent chance to score as the linesman’s flag incorrectly went up. The other real moment of hope before the goal was Gervinho’s well crafted chance. Aside from that, there was little to report.

The second goal, shortly before injury time, raised hopes. But at this point Arsenal played into Bayern’s hands, lacking the knowhow to keep the game moving. Arteta, supposedly one of the team’s most experienced players, was highly culpable of allowing Bayern to run down the clock with a poorly taken set piece and the concession of at least two needless fouls that brought the German team 30 seconds on each occasion. The other thing that is slightly ridiculous is the mad scramble to get the ball after a goal has been scored, as if it is going to make the opposition restart the game any quicker. The ensuing melee always means the delay in getting going again is invariably longer than if they had just retreated and made any attempt at timewasting before kicking off blatantly obvious.

What this second leg can give the team is confidence. In isolation, it is a huge result. Proof that these players are capable of winning against anyone anywhere. Bayern rarely concede at home, let alone lose. In terms of the Champions League, it is meaningless. Arsenal are out, as expected after the first leg. Whether it has a positive knock on effect for their remaining Premier League matches remains to be seen. However, if they can win in Munich, there is no reason they cannot gain three points at Swansea this weekend.

Before the game, Graeme Souness gave the view that “Arsenal are drifting”, a reference to the gradual erosion of the club being serious challengers for the big prizes. Failure to repeat results like that in the Allianz Arena between now and May will mean they will drift out of this competition.

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  1. glenngould

    Aug 12, 2018, 14:51 #111696

    More revisionist nonsense from Mr AKB. Simon I thought you wanted Eddie Howe to be the manager? Which is fine but spare us all the usual rubbish about how you were right all along...even when you're wrong you're right so I guess you can't change, like old Arsene really...

  2. Bard

    Aug 12, 2018, 10:22 #111693

    Spot on mbg. He is like those kids at school who support whoever is top of the league. Chelsea one minute, City the next. Not even a paragraph detailing why he has jumped ship. Next up Graham Perry with his monthly review of how he saw it all before anyone else.

  3. mbg

    Aug 11, 2018, 14:09 #111688

    Clean slate ? you must be fooking joking, for the team, players, and new manager yes, but for AKB wengerites like yourself who backed, supported, and stood by wenger for so long, no, it still hasn't been forgotten how supporters like yourself nearly allowed him to completely ruin the club, only getting off the fence and coming over to the other side when you all realised the writing was on the wall and it was nearly to late, and if others had their way they'd still be quite happy with the old weasel still here today at kick off, standing on the touch line fiddling with his zip stinking the place out making the situation even worse, and none of us would be or have been looking forward to this season so much just like the last thirteen, well apart from all the AKB wenger fans and luvvies. Come on Arsenal.

  4. Peter

    Mar 16, 2013, 17:17 #33345

    I sit East stand lower and am as frustrated as anyone.Without a doubt players such as Mata & Hazard amongst others would have signed for us but for the two mega money teams.The whole dynamics of the premiership changed.No excuses on the cup defeats but they both should have been out of sight.That they were not is a major failing & it is amazing what confidence or lack of it can do.That is the managers job & as I said if enough fans want him out it will happen.That point has not been reached but could well do in the next 6 months.We still should have had 2 or 3 trophys in the bank over the last 8 years and that is what Wenger is judged on.

  5. maguiresbridge gooner

    Mar 16, 2013, 13:05 #33344

    Peter, moral can't get much lower mate,and it wasn't because of the chavs and mancs money that we lost a cup final to a Birmingham team who were relegated, who our reserves should have been capable of beating,or getting humiliated in two cup competitions just recently by teams from lower divisions Bradford, and Blackburn,whose players cost and earn a fraction of ours.And not to mention all the other crap displays and results over the seasons to inferior opposition.What it's got more to do with than anything else is rank bad management from a manager who has completely lost his way and is incapable.I don't know where you sit Peter but that's certainly not the case where i sit.

  6. MarkH

    Mar 16, 2013, 8:40 #33337

    CanadaGooner- My last trip to the souless bowl cost me the best part of £500. I was born in Tottenham but now live in Derbyshire. I take my three lads down, only one is a junior member and all the family members seats were sold out. Stick fifty quid on for petrol,the glossy PR mag they call the programme(my lads still want it) and it costs me a fortune to be told to sit down and shut up if I dare to sing. We prefer the away games for atmosphere and more knowledgeable Gooner support. I hate what Arsenal have become,but it will change,perhaps not as quickly as we all want but it will. But when we play I support the team, however poor they are,unless there is a lack of effort which I cannort stand. And I always celebrate when we win,and get pi**ed off when we dont.

  7. Peter.

    Mar 16, 2013, 0:59 #33332

    Certainly was not a pointless win. Had we lost as was expected morale would be lower. Consistency is the problem as well as losing game's too early. (Manc, spurs & Bayern to name three) Yes it is unacceptable no trophy in 8 years.The longest period since our first trophy in 1930 was 17 from 1953 to 1970. Graham won a trophy in1987 after 8 without one.Hate to keep banging on about Chelsea & Manc but without all that money which they bought trophys we would certainly have won a few & not lost some of our best players.We can't change that & fans are frustrated & split on the best way forward.The real culprits are the board who are supposedly have said they do not expect to win a trophy before season 2014-15. If enough people want Wenger out he will walk or the board will be forced to sack him.I am not sure if that will be best for the club. Also where I sit I have to say I have not heard any murmers of getting Wenger out and there are some very vocal voices.

  8. GoonerRon

    Mar 15, 2013, 21:53 #33330

    @ Alsace - you're arrogance seemingly knows no bounds. To simply dismiss what Wenger supporters say as not mattering is very narrow-minded. Presumably your comment 'most of us are absolutely certain' that shouting Wenger down 'is the best thing for the club' is based on some analysis of the millions of Arsenal supporters around the world? Have your views as we are all entitled to them, but asserting other voices just don't matter because they differ from yours is pretty pathetic.

  9. CanadaGooner

    Mar 15, 2013, 16:00 #33321

    @MarkH; you sound like a reasonable chap (albeit one with a very strange view of where Arsenal's at), so I am more than happy to take back the 'idiot' tag. No offence intended. That said, if you go back a few months you will note that my views are very strongly against showing or voicing dissent at the games as it can only impact the team negatively. I also do not agree with protesting while the season is still on or abstaining from the games (as some perhaps foolishly advocate)but at a stage in the season (after the Bradford game) when it became quite obvious that we wont be winning anything yet again, there was nothing left to protect the team for; 4th place isnt something fans want anymore; 7 years of that (with ZERO chance of winning the CL per se, has taken it's toll, and most feel that perhaps it's time for us to miss out of the CL money, which might wake some of the shareholders up a little). Here's a question for you: try and spend the kind of money it costs to fly from Canada to London on something crap and let me know how you feel; then perhaps I will answer your question regarding how I feel when Arsenal win or lose when I'm over in London.

  10. James

    Mar 15, 2013, 15:10 #33318

    Chelsea have won 10 trophies since we last won one.But that doesnt matter to some of our fans we have Wenger who gets us 4th place every year.Some of our fans are more deluded than the old fool himself

  11. jjetplane

    Mar 15, 2013, 14:34 #33317

    Terry's from Tottenham. Nice one.

  12. MarkH

    Mar 15, 2013, 11:51 #33311

    Canada Gooner, why did using the term knobrot to describe a statement,get me the label idiot. One is disagreeing with a statement,one is a direct insult. Tell me something,when you fly over from Canada ,do you actually want Arsenal to win,and if they do are you happy ,or do you insult people around you?

  13. Noz

    Mar 15, 2013, 11:24 #33309

    Thanks Terry you cheeky wind up merchant, you really made me laugh with your 1st post, I needed cheering up, thanks again mate.

  14. Croker

    Mar 15, 2013, 10:58 #33308

    Enjoyed the win and some improved performances. With Wenger's previous sides, I watched thinking "We're gonna score any minute". Since the stadium move, the reverse is true and I'm scared that it's the other side who are gonna score any minute. Anyway, let's all enjoy and get on with backing Arsenal to chase down Totteringham & Chelski. Keep those posts coming from Canada and everywhere else.

  15. Ron

    Mar 15, 2013, 9:55 #33307

    Annoyedwith ..... Good one, but dont forget youve got the emirates cup to look forward too!

  16. Chris

    Mar 15, 2013, 9:32 #33306

    Against my better judgement, I'll give you a bit of advice, Alsace. Your clarion call for vocal demonstrations against Wenger throughout matches would probably get quite a lot of support amongst the previously converted and the disaffected - even if clearly horrendously misguided to those with a little more common sense and rationality (ie those who know the damage it is and will do to the team's success - what yo claim to care about). However, when you descend into the burbling idiocy of: "The only thing Wenger is interested in is staying where he is. It is a raison d'etre without soul or substance. The only thing we should be interested in is cleaning out something that is destroying the heart and soul of our club." ...it's clear to everyone how detached from reality your bizarre and extreme views have become. Any weight your words had is completely dissipated through banal extremism.

  17. Esso

    Mar 15, 2013, 7:51 #33305

    Were you lot involved in briefing Neil Ashton to come up with that orchestrated rubbish in the Daily Mail, designed purely to stir up trouble, in the matchday build up? Would n't surprise me at all if you were.

  18. Laddy N

    Mar 15, 2013, 7:50 #33304

    Is that 'Mental Terry' with the post about Wenger being best coach in Europe. Care in the community is needed.

  19. CanadaGooner

    Mar 15, 2013, 1:54 #33303

    @MarkH - your use of the term "knobrot" was what got you the tag "idiot". You are quite entitled to your opinion for sure. @Maguiresbridge gooner - thanks mate, we cant help having some one-off folks who come on here just to shoot their mouths off. Fortunately there are a lot of us regulars on here and even though we dont always agree 100% with eachother's views, we exchange ideas and thoughts amiably @Luke - try and come on here more often mate; and not just when we win. unlike some would say; i still think we're all arsenal fans. I'm sure if you tke a moment to reflect, you'll agree that 8 years without a trophy isnt great; especially at a club where tickets are expensive and we keep getting fed half-truths all the time.

  20. Annoyed with everything Arsenal

    Mar 14, 2013, 23:56 #33302

    Wenger is clueless,Bould is a puppet,the whole set up stinks.All the players should be sold except Jack.Tickets are too dear,I don't like our new stadium my seats too big, our new kits horrid.I wish we had a great manager like Fergy,Spuds will finish above us.We only have the virtual Trophy left,2-0 win in Munich is a disgrace.If we loose we are rubbish if we win we are worse.Don't like any of our keepers,or our defence.Our midfield ain't what it was,our attack ain't what I want.The board has got no ambition.The manager gets too much money.I want a sugar daddy.The AKB'S are horrible not worthy to be in the same room as me.Why can't we play in yellow,I loved our old cannon.Please bring back George we won every game when he was here.Iv'e been a season ticket holder 90 years.wer're just papering over the cracks.worst Arsenal team in 50 years,most of our fans are deluded.I'm going to make a banner,I won't buy their stuff,We're going backwards,Wengers moving sideways,I'm getting dizzy.I won't turn up.8 years without a trophy and counting.....

  21. maguiresbridge gooner

    Mar 14, 2013, 23:41 #33301

    Luke,whatever the status quo of this site is i'm sure it doesn't need defending from me,i'm quite sure the administrators are quite capable of doing it themselves,and the same goes for CanadaGooner as he has already shown.For someone who has accused myself of being sychophantic to another blogger you have managed to give a better example of that yourself,what was it,? Nice one Tezzer,Terry Knows Best,I love Terry, is there something your not telling us. ?

  22. Gare Kekeke

    Mar 14, 2013, 22:54 #33300

    @ Ronster; fair play mate. I don’t agree with the ridiculous spin that comes out of Wenger either. I suppose that I’m just a bit calmer when reacting to it. But for the record, that doesn’t make me better than anyone else. Yes, I saw that comment too by Wenger with regards to English football in Europe. Talk about trying to deflect attention from his own failings yet again. Anyone who claims there is no value in winning domestic cups, fourth place is trophy, champions FFP as if it will be football’s saviour, says he’ll sign up for 2nd place for the next ten years (or was twenty years) and brags about his ‘socialist’ wage structure (that’s worked well hasn’t it?) will always get deserved criticism from me and others (like your good self) who aren’t brainwashed by him whether it is measured or just one heck of a kicking. I for one cannot wait for the day Kroneke sells up and f*cks off, Gazidis is sacked and Wenger leaves too.

  23. Alsace Lorraine De Totteridge

    Mar 14, 2013, 22:51 #33299

    The AKB's and what they think or say don't matter. It doesn't matter what Wenger thinks or says. All that matters is to shout him down and thereby kick him out. Most of us are absolutely certain that that is the best thing for the club. Express your displeasure verbally from first to last. Use your voices like a hammer. The only thing Wenger is interested in is staying where he is. It is a raison d'etre without soul or substance. The only thing we should be interested in is cleaning out something that is destroying the heart and soul of our club.

  24. Ken

    Mar 14, 2013, 22:50 #33298

    Eight years without a trophy doesn't bother some poeple,But in the meantime watching the Spuds and Chelsea win silverware does that bother fellow gooners maybe maybe not.Keep Wenger for a few years more now thats worth bothering about. FOREVER ARSENAL.

  25. Luke

    Mar 14, 2013, 22:12 #33297

    I love Terry! Down with CanadaGooner and his 4 trips to London. Down with Maguiresbridge Gooner and his defence of the status quo of this site and his sychophantic love and game tally for CanadaGooner. Terry Knows Best!! Nice one Tezzer. Well played Carl.

  26. GoonerRon

    Mar 14, 2013, 22:09 #33296

    A great result and a really encouraging defensive performance which if replicated in the league will serve us well in the run-in. Just a shame we couldn't really get our passing going in the second leg and couldn't defend better in the first. Great support from the away Gooners yet again, and the Allianz arena was impressive. Lastly, did we see some evidence of strong management from Wenger with the dropping of Vermaelen and Chesney? Based purely on last night's game you have to say his selection was vindicated. Lastly, for anyone slating Fabianski, put standard preconceptions to one side and take a second to watch his last full run in the side. His form was very, very good with many game changing, point-saving interventions. I think he deserves his chance for the time being.

  27. Green Hut

    Mar 14, 2013, 21:51 #33295

    Terry- In Italy for 30 years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed but they produced Michaelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland they had brotherly love- they had 500 years of democracy and peace, and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock.

  28. Ronster

    Mar 14, 2013, 21:38 #33294

    Gare Kekeke...deep down '8 years without a trophy' doesn't bother me either.However it is a stick to beat an Arsenal manager with who is trying to spin and connive his way out of a corner.I'm sure you've noted his latest learned observation that european elimination is an 'english' problem.Well this pleb who hasn't worked half a day in football will not let him off the hook.By the way may I add that had Wenger shown in recent years some of the balance,humility and respect for the 'Arsenal way' you bring to your posts then myself and I'm sure many other Gooners wouldn't be giving him such a torrid time now.

  29. Paul

    Mar 14, 2013, 21:32 #33293

    The result seems to have blinded some to the performance.For 85 mins we were average.The passing of Rosicky and Ramsey was abysmal.Walcott was invisible and when will Giroud ever learn to hold the ball up.As others have said there seemed to be a fear to go all guns blazing in the final half an hour.Yes the back 4 played well but it wasnt Bayern who had to score.Its amazing we get knocked out of the competition yet some Gooners are happy its as if the first leg never happened.Wenger has to go this summer

  30. Terry

    Mar 14, 2013, 21:18 #33292

    I wouldn't call many of the posters on this website Arsenal supporters,as a supporter is someone who backs the team and defends his team against those who attack it.I would characterise this website as a site where people who are anti Arsenal can air their views or have a moan about everything Arsenal.I think with you people your fathers spent their whole lives following Arsenal and complaining about them and so you also follow Arsenal and complain about them.It's just a foolish tradition passed down from father to son which sadly never really achieves anything.

  31. CT Gooner

    Mar 14, 2013, 21:12 #33291

    And what about Rosicky? I think we would have been better with 10 men in the first half. I can't believe how bad his form has been since he got his new contract. And finally AOC got to play again...

  32. maguiresbridge gooner

    Mar 14, 2013, 21:00 #33290

    Terry, it's pretty obvious your new to this site, otherwise you would have known the person you made a feeble attempt to put down by telling them to stick to ice hockey is actually a Londoner and has probably been to a lot more games and knows more about arsenal than yourself.If you must talk S***e on here at least engage what brain you have first.

  33. Gare Kekeke

    Mar 14, 2013, 20:51 #33289

    Pride restored after the shambolic first leg but however you want to dress it up, we are out of the European Cup for another season. Yet again in the competition we have been knocked out of the round of 16, the third successive season to be precise and including this season, the fifth time in nine seasons. Not exactly the hallmark of greatness here. Under Wenger, that is our level. We are not good enough to make the last eight on a consistent basis. Still, we have made our money and I suppose that’s what important right? Enough to pay the £15m stadium repayment (quoted by Wenger last year) and the ever increasing wage bill, rumoured now to be a staggering £150m, around about £15m less than Man Utd. Typical that we put in a decent performance when the pressure‘s off. Until this lot described by Wenger as his ‘best ever squad’ learn how to handle pressure then they will continue to choke in big games. Great performance from Jenkinson. Any chance we can more of him please? The whole ‘eight years without a trophy’ doesn’t bother me. What bothers me is that we very rarely compete. We are The Arsenal, it’s in our DNA, not to run & hide just because some have better players and more money than us. Even if we went through, we still would have been taken apart by one of Barcelona (have some fans really forgetting the Camp Nou beatings in recent years?), Real Madrid and maybe even Juventus. But that’s all hypothetical. Here’s hoping for a better performance and result at League Cup winners Swansea. Oh yeah and well done to my local club Millwall for showing Wenger how to beat the current side Blackburn side in the FA Cup.

  34. N4

    Mar 14, 2013, 20:43 #33288

    Our passing was shambolic. Our defence was better. Our midfield was poor not enough defence as a team. Not enough pressing but one positive thing for me was to see Steve Bould giving instructions to Per which was good to see and explained the sudden defence improvement! So that proves that Wenger did stop Steve working with the defence then!!!!

  35. Fozzy

    Mar 14, 2013, 19:53 #33287

    So proud. No fannying around passing the ball back this time. They just got on with the job. Everybody played their part, even Eboue-with-a-Syrup. And didn't Wiggy Arteta look rather splendid with a new rug on the top of his bonce? The League run-in starts now. As for Europe, we can always cheer on Ebouseless in the next round.

  36. Greg78

    Mar 14, 2013, 19:29 #33286

    Great result and gutsy defensive performance, but other than the two goals we created very little. Thought the passing was very ordinary most of the evening, was I the only one who thought we didn't really give it everything we had to score the required goals?? Strange match, very subdued, didn't have the feel of a knockout champions league game. Lost it in first leg...

  37. MarkH

    Mar 14, 2013, 19:14 #33284

    Canada gooner- I would prefer it if you did not call be an idiot. We are all entitled to our views and resulting to individual abuse is just wrong. I only watched the second half because I have a thing called work to do. I have supported Arsenal since 1968 and seen some bad performances and barren years. But I can still be happy when we win,otherwise what is the point.

  38. Paul the Gooner

    Mar 14, 2013, 18:13 #33283

    We needed to score 3 goals.We only had 3 shots on target in 90 mins.That tells you all you need to know.We never gave it a go what did we have to lose?.Winning 2-0 had the same end result as us losing 5-0 last night.I am no big fan of Wally Walnutt but taking him off for Gervinho told you Wenger had given up.8 years without a trophy does anyone think that will ever end under Wenger?Meanwhile last night Millwall beat Blackburn

  39. CanadaGooner

    Mar 14, 2013, 17:40 #33282

    Finishing above Spurs is the only target left for us this season. Whether or not that interprets to finishing 3rd or 4th is of no interest to me as a CL place is wasted on Arsenal right now (we only qualify to make some money out of it and not to win it). @Terry - if you've been on this site long enough and actually read anything properly, you'll know that I'm not Canadian! I'm a Londoner working in Canada, and I'm sure I probably still make it to more live matches than you do, even though I'm thousands of miles away! So, your 'icehockey' comment only further underlines your stupidity.

  40. Terry

    Mar 14, 2013, 17:35 #33281

    @Endless Nameless,CanadaGooner,Jetplane,ed enough,Ronster,James,Handbrake master,Wenger out,Gaz,Mark H,Peter Wain,Sputnik,Big Any,Wearebuilding a team to dominate.Don't forget to tune in to watch your beloved in the Europa Cup this evening,I believe their playing Inter Milan.

  41. arsene knew best

    Mar 14, 2013, 17:16 #33280

    Kevin - did you find a bottle of tippex thinner in the back of your desk drawer before you wrote this? I think we were all stunned when the second goal went in last night and there were a few minutes where we thought the team might replicate the sort of display we saw against Sampdoria in the 90s. But we were throughly out of the game for the first 175 odd minutes. I take little satisfaction from these rare plucky performances and they don't make up for the cowardly displays we saw againat Bradford, Blackburn, Norwich, Swansea etc. Maybe the AKBs are readying themselves to add the annual ritual of a defeat against superior euro-oppoonents (think of the second leg against Milan last year) to their holy grail that is 4th place in the league. It underlines more than ever that the club has badly lost its way. And with an eye on Swansea, let's hope we win (if only so that none of those idiot pundits on the BBC can say that we were "out-Arsenal'ed" by them).

  42. the boss

    Mar 14, 2013, 17:10 #33279

    terry should get some glasses. none of his comments make a haporth worth of sense. Stick to knitting, mate!

  43. ppp

    Mar 14, 2013, 17:01 #33278

    good performace, gutsy defending. i could care less about the quality of football if more shows like this are put on. going out of europe again is very frustrating.

  44. CanadaGooner

    Mar 14, 2013, 17:00 #33277

    @MarkH: "went, tried and nearly did it"? dont be an idiot mate. Did you watch the game? Bayern knew we had to score 3 goals (and they had to score none) for Arsenal to go through. At 3mins we scored 1 goal and didnt threaten to score any more than they did, till the 87th min; at which point they must have felt a little bit of pressure for the last 5mins or so; you call that a performance worthy of a victory parade in north London. It's idiots like you who are the main reason we have gone 8 seasons without a trophy! I fly home to London from Canada 4 times a year to watch Arsenal, the cost of which could cover a few seasons tickets! If you then expect me to roll around in glee because we won an inconsequential match, THINK AGAIN!

  45. Inspector Clueless

    Mar 14, 2013, 16:28 #33275

    I think there is something in it that we had nothing to lose. also that Bayern were definitely less fired up than they were at the Highmirates. look it was ok but id have preferred we really turned up properly against spurs when we really needed to. I still fear weve got very serious problems in the club and have lost our way. worst still with last nights result Wenger just earned himself another £7.5m and another season that i think will be at the fans expense

  46. maguiresbridge gooner

    Mar 14, 2013, 16:22 #33274

    It was a strange game alright and yes a good result,and a good performance from the defence for a change, even though Bayern decided to do what we've done on many occasions ourselves and turn up thinking the games won before it's even started and they very very nearly paid the price for their complacency.It would have been very interesting to see what would have happened had we scored our second ten or fifteen minutes earlier would Bayern have upped their game ? would we have had the knowhow or the bottle to go on and do what was needed ? It's just a real pity the team couldn't have shown the same pride in the shirt when it really mattered like the first leg and we wouldn't have needed to score three in the first place.And the same effort to restore pride against the likes of Bradford and Blackburn, and then they might have found themselves with a chance to bring some real pride back to the club and themselves with a Wembley appearance.At the end of the day regardless of the win we find ourselves out yet again, in the same position as the last eight years going on nine pot less,with nothing to play for only pride,and of course the fourth place trophy so we can go through the same thing all over again.

  47. Bard

    Mar 14, 2013, 15:51 #33273

    We looked decent at the back for a change and it was a good result but let's get real we're a million miles from looking like we can win the thing. A draw at Swansea would be a great result for this lot of overpaid, average players. Bringing on Gervinho as a sub is a telling indication of how far we've fallen.

  48. Graham Simons

    Mar 14, 2013, 15:43 #33272

    we did lose - that's why we're out! winning on the night doesn't get you through and canadians as well as fans across the world are entitled as anyone to venture their opinion and support the club.

  49. Dartford gooner

    Mar 14, 2013, 15:21 #33271

    At last a bit of pride guts and a defence that spoke to each other.Some one must have given them a kick up the arse, why did it take so long. One game proves nothing but it might kick start a run, we live in hope. Lets have no more slagging off of the jenks my man of the match with Arsenal red running through his veins. The Vermaelen interview before the game was strange, not a happy man, now we know why. Another one bound for Barca

  50. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    Mar 14, 2013, 15:18 #33270

    Terry @12.21pm; Mate, whatever it is you're smoking, can you pass it round on the right hand side please? Ta.

  51. Richard

    Mar 14, 2013, 14:59 #33269

    Blimey, Dont you people get bored trotting out the same 4th place no silverwher crap after every bloody game. I was frustrated and angry with the club but when you realise for the foreseeable future nothing is going to change you have to look beyond. I shall focus this post on everyone that went to Munich last night. I could hear you on the radio loud and proud at the final whistle and just for a second i dreamt that we were the greastest team the world has ever seen. Quality.

  52. Big Any

    Mar 14, 2013, 14:56 #33268

    Yeaterday's game actually proves nothing. We already knew that we can play well when we want to: but lack of consistencey has been our problem for at least five years. We'll probably lose against Swansea - that's how our recent seasons have gone.

  53. Jumpers for Goalposts

    Mar 14, 2013, 14:47 #33267

    Terry - thanks mate. I needed a damn good laugh today and your post has provided one. - - - - - - "Wenger still very much the best man for the job and should be given another contract,still the best coach in Europe by a country mile in my opinion". - - - - - - - That is comedy genius!

  54. Jumpers for Goalposts

    Mar 14, 2013, 14:37 #33266

    Last night's performance sums Arsenal up perfectly. They can play well when the pressure is off but when the pressure is on - they play "A LITTLE BIT WITH THE HANDBRAKE ON!" Well that handbrake is all in the mind and it won't come off until we have a new manager and a new board. What is the point of 1 good game followed by 1 bad game??????

  55. refox

    Mar 14, 2013, 14:31 #33265

    Eight years dude, eight years.

  56. CanadaGooner

    Mar 14, 2013, 14:23 #33264

    The British Press is largely responsible for Wenger's demise and what he's turned into: headlines this morning read "Wenger's Warning for the Premier League" -- apparently the rest of Europe has caught up with the premiership as we wont have a team in the last 8 this year. What nonsense! Wenger thinks he can so quickly deflect attention from himself and his lack of tactics by saying "ah well everyone, no english team made it to the quarter-finals, so things arent so bad at arsenal". what he conveniently forgets is that Chelsea wont it last time out and unlike Arsenal, they are still pushing for a trophy as they have done (been in competition for trophies) for the past 8 seasons when we pissed away chance after chance in domestic cups. Principled man? I think not! Wenger has gone down in my estimation this year; he's turning into a rambling, ineffectual idiot!

  57. foxinthebox2001

    Mar 14, 2013, 13:24 #33262

    One team knew they had to avoid a 3 goal defeat to progress and got complacent. They also badly missed Schweinsteiger's organisation, and Ribery's talent for holding up and using the ball. Until the 2nd goal went in they were in control and dominating. Had we been able to play Wilshere, and had the 2nd goal arrived 20 minutes earlier, but thats just all ifs, buts and maybes. Overall Munich deserved their place in the draw for the way they took control at the Emirates.

  58. Cambridge Gooner

    Mar 14, 2013, 13:24 #33261

    The only miracle would have been if Bayern had shown us enough respect to give us a good thrashing. Instead they barely turned up, knowing that Arsenal weren't good enough to get 3 (and were proven right). Had it not been for an uncharacteristically good finish from Kos (one of 3 out of the 2 chances taken in the game), their tactics would have looked even more intelligent. This result proves nothing about Arsenal or Arsene Wenger except that once again, we're just not good enough (and that Arteta shouldn't be our vice captain following his farsical display in the final minutes).

  59. Sputnik

    Mar 14, 2013, 13:14 #33260

    So we nearly beat Bayern. Er...that means we lost then.

  60. Peter Wain

    Mar 14, 2013, 13:11 #33259

    The problem is that this was the worst possible result allowing Wenger to say that the squad is strong and that they only need to eradicate the errors and do not need to buy more players. Fappyanski was not troubled by Bayern at all and only made one really good save the rest were routine. Still he did not make a mistake which is a first for our four first team keepers this season. The back four were good but I thought the midfield passing was awful particularly Ramsey who seems to be getting worse. Up front I though Walcott annoymous apart from the first goal and one other cross and Giroud was Giroud full of effort but lacking pace and ability. Trying to score from forty yards out was ridiculous. Still lets hope we can perofrm to this level against Swansea who wuill not play as badly as Bayern.

  61. GoonerGoal!

    Mar 14, 2013, 13:10 #33258

    Yes we regained a little pride, but a near miracle? Well, we actually defended like we knew what we were doing, that in itself is a miracle with any Wenger team over the past few years. But a meaningless victory over a team playing in sleep mode for 90% of the game knowing they have already qualified? No, that's not a near miracle, just another swallow trying to fool us into believing it's summer in March while the night-time temperature is actually -6!

  62. MarkH

    Mar 14, 2013, 13:08 #33257

    'If Bayern needed a goal last night they would have got it' What knobrot. Their bench certainly wanted a goal because they were seriously worried. It was always going to be a tough ask,and the perfoprmance in the first leg cannot be excused. But for christs sake, if you really support Arsenal at least be happy that we went,tried and nearly did it. And once again our away support was brilliant.

  63. Graham Simons

    Mar 14, 2013, 13:07 #33256

    Jenks is a great shout for captain. It would be the first time since Adams we would have a Gooner as captain.

  64. Joe S.

    Mar 14, 2013, 12:55 #33255

    A great win. Normally a result like this,on their home turf would leave me esctatic but it's difficult to know what to make of this one.The most optimistic amongst us will see it as proof that Arsene Wegner knows best and his team is on track to turn things around for a barn storming finish. At the other end there are the huge BUTS, firstly Arsenal are out and there may not be a return to this level until season 2014-15. Secondly the tempo of the game was a srange one with Bayern clearly believing the tie had already been decided. Thirdly unlike our editor I don't think this team nas the quality to win when it counts or beat anyone anyone on their day.It is badly balanced and needs top quality reinforcements. At this stage Arsenal would have trouble beating even the likes of Malaga or Paris St. Germain. Let's see what happens in the next two months before we crank up the optimism.

  65. mikegooner13

    Mar 14, 2013, 12:53 #33254

    For **** sake. Can we sometime see some positives about our team said on here. If any of the players read some of the comments, we would have to hide all sharp objects from them.

  66. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    Mar 14, 2013, 12:50 #33253

    Couldn't be arsed last night, played bass in our rock group instead. That's how disenfranchised I am with this current set-up and its Emperor's New Clothes of a manager. BTW: Why aren't the meeeeedja baying for his blood? Because he gives them some nice quotes? Here's to defeat on Saturday which will probably end any lingering AKB hopes of that promised land of 4th place.

  67. Gaz

    Mar 14, 2013, 12:38 #33252

    Last night was just about the worst scenario I could think of. I either wanted us to progress or lose heavily as I just knew any win that saw us go out would be used by the AKBs as a reason to vindicate Wenger. So sad that as a Club a lot of our fans are happy to see us win games even if we dont actually progress to the next round. Thats a losers mnentality if ever I've seen one. As for the game itself the irony-which of course is lost on some-is that if we showed that kind of passion and desire in EVERY game we probably would't be struggling to finish in the top four. As it is they pick and chose their games and that kind of mentality can only come from the manager. As for Fabianski he did all the things any highly paid professional keeper should do. Nothing more-nothing less. Yet to hear some of the comments about him today you'd think he produced great save after great save. Can I remind people this is FABIANSKI we're taking about!!!

  68. Wenger Out!

    Mar 14, 2013, 12:38 #33251

    Pride is not a trophy. Too little too late. Get Wenger Out!

  69. Terry

    Mar 14, 2013, 12:34 #33250

    Not for nothing that Wenger earned the tag, "The Nearly Man", ong before he joined us.

  70. Terry

    Mar 14, 2013, 12:32 #33249

    Endless Nameless.I wonder what you would have said if Arsenal had lost.CanadaGooner stick to ice hockey and go back to watching Spuds or Mancs or whatever team you really support.

  71. Handbrake Master

    Mar 14, 2013, 12:27 #33248

    Aaaah another 'nearly' performance from the 'nearly' team and the 'nearly' manager. Pressure off? We can play! Just like a plucky FA Cup underdog. Arteta was a bloody disgrace last night with his idiotic fouling, a massive waste of £10 mil. Overrated mediocrity imo. I also see Wenger has tried to deflect from his own failure, by aggregating our failure with 'an English problem'. One problem with that: Arsenal are the ONLY team in the CL that have not won a sinle trophy for EIGHT years! How about you try aggregating that Wenger eh? Pressure was on at White Hart Lane and what happened there? The other point no one has mentioned is that it is clear Steve Bould organised that defence last night. No way was it Wenger. Wenger is incompetent.

  72. James

    Mar 14, 2013, 12:23 #33247

    Nowhere near a miracle.We only scored our 2nd goal in the 87th minute having hardly troubled their goal from the third minute.For nearly all the game Bayern kept us at arms length.And between both our goals the game was a stalemte.Sadly Wenger will use last night just like he used the Milan win last season as an excuse to say his team is good enough.Some fans are calling the performance heroic.Were Rosicky Ramsey Walcott and Giroud heroic?Really?So once again we get knocked out in the last 16 stage.Our record in the CL really is poor.Gallant losers is not good enough.We can beat Bayern but not Bradford and Blackburn sums this bunch of losers up

  73. Terry

    Mar 14, 2013, 12:21 #33246

    Great performance by the Gunners last night no doubt the anti Arsenal and Anti Wenger will not be very happy but Wenger proved his team certainly has bottle and unlike the majority of posters on this site has self belief in his team.Officiating was poor compared to the first leg bookings? Only 3 minutes extra time?.Lino flagging Theo clean through?.Germans diving all over the place was expected.Arsenal support at the game was excellent "Your only here to see The Arsenal"the best chant of the night. Wenger still very much the best man for the job and should be given another contract,still the best coach in Europe by a country mile in my opinion.

  74. Ronster

    Mar 14, 2013, 12:20 #33245

    8 years without a trophy...when will we see white smoke rising above the E*******!? At least George Morrell is no longer spinning in his grave....

  75. ed enough....

    Mar 14, 2013, 12:12 #33244

    No point in being in the CL every year anyway....We will never win the thing with Wenger and Gazidis at the club....I hope we finish 4th but can't help feel it would be a great wake up for the "Board" if we fail to even qualify for the Europa.....

  76. jjetplane

    Mar 14, 2013, 12:12 #33243

    Wenger really has to go. He is talking in a loser mode which must have a terrible effect on 'the squad'. What is humiliating is that Bayern treated Arsenal like the non-contenders they are. They stayed in neutral for the duration having already won the tie. Compare with the night beforwe when we were again reminded how far Wenger is from Barcelona-type football. No Fabregas neither. Seems both he and Nasri will be off in the summer. No doubt Nasri will end up at Totts. and Fabrigas at ..... Citeh!

  77. chris dee

    Mar 14, 2013, 12:11 #33242

    Yep another near miracle,to many unfortunately.But when you have not got a side always in the hunt for trophies that's what you need to succeed,miracles. Confirmation again that Carl Jenkinson is the best full back at the club and is were manager he would be my skipper.Not Jack,not Arteta,not Vermealon but Jenkinson.Commited,brave and with no little skill.And listening to his interview with that prat Geoff Shreeve after the match also intelligent. What a difference a little defensive organisation makes,what a difference a little extra effort,bravery and concentration makes.A performance half as commited as last night against Bradford and Blackburn and our season would now be buzzing now.Oh well. An article in the Telegraph summed up many supporters views on Arsene.We don't want to change our manager we want our manager to change back into the ruthless ambitious bloke who showed the door to legends Wrighty and Merse because they could not do the business anymore and bought in better players.The writer points out that the old Arsene would never have tolerated players such as Bendtner,Arshavin,Chamakh etc staying so long at the club without performing. Shame really cause I doubt if Arsene can re invent himself into the 'old Arsene'.

  78. CanadaGooner

    Mar 14, 2013, 11:55 #33241

    If Bayern needed a goal last night they would have got it. Was only ever going to be one team going through (and it was never arsenal). The first leg already confirmed that beyond any reasonable doubt. What you saw yesterday is what arsenal have become; NOT GOOD ENOUGH. 2 domestic cup opportunities squandered and now we're again left with a chase for the only thing that matters to Gazidis and co (4th place finish for next year's CL money). What a joke!

  79. Endless, Nameless

    Mar 14, 2013, 11:37 #33240

    Typical Arsenal - nothing to play for, so they perform. When the pressure is back on at Swansea this weekend they will return to type - defending in the style of Billy Smarts employees and toothless up front. The AKB's will no doubt be out in full-on "told-you-so" mode, so my question to them is this: If our manager can motivate players for a dead-rubber game such as this, why can he not do so for other key games?