A Question of Faith

Some thoughts on what lies ahead



A Question of Faith

Deserves one last trophy shot next season


The next nine games followed by the summer break are probably the most important three-to-four months in the recent history of our great club. If we truly want to push on to close the gap with the Manchesters and pull away from the chasing pack, it will be entirely driven by nine games of on-field commitment and then ten weeks of off-the-field diligence.

For the first time in a long time, the club have been pretty transparent with two key themes in relation to the financial status of the club; an admission that the wage-structure is inefficient and that we have a significant injection of cash coming from the renewed sponsorship deals. By admitting these publicly, it puts pressure on the club to address the issues, i.e. taking high-earning fringe players off the wage-bill, paying top money to top players, whilst spending higher sums of net cash on incoming players.

Taking a step back, it’s difficult to properly assess what has actually gone on with the club’s finances since the move to The E******s. We have without question been subjected to contradictory statements at various times, from Danny Fiszman (‘we could buy a player for £30m’), Peter Hill-Wood (‘we’ve never refused to buy a player the manager wanted’), Ivan Gazidis (‘we can’t spend as much as petro-dollar clubs’) and Arsène Wenger (‘if I was given £100m, I’d give it back’).

If I cut through all, this I’d acknowledge that there have been some serious PR clangers with how the club have communicated our buying-strength in the past, but in my opinion we have been hamstrung on transfer-spend in the period since the move to The Emirates. I would also highlight that in this period of ‘stadium austerity’, Wenger has been culpable in misjudging the quality of some players, leaving us overly reliant on youngsters, with too many players clogging up the wage-bill and not delivering requisite value. In the interest of balance, I’d say this is partially mitigated by our continuing to compete in cup finals, semi-finals, two strong league challenges and our continual appearance in the CL.

In the past two summers, the over-reliance on youth has been rectified with more experience throughout the squad, and this summer presents the club with a great opportunity to redress the balance of the wage-bill. Arshavin, Squillaci and Denilson are out of contract which, depending on reports, will save the club somewhere up to £180k per week. There are more potential outgoings of fringe players such as Bendtner, Chamakh, Djourou and Park which could be another £200k per week shipped out. All of a sudden, the composition of the wage-bill looks more equitable – and certainly with scope to pay two or three top players £150k+ per week – without significant incremental outlay on salary.

In terms of spending more net cash on players, the club have almost made a rod for their own back. They knew that celebrating our new sponsorship deal so publicly would inevitably cause a stir, and in the fall-out they haven’t exactly quashed the inference that with this injection of cash we can spend more on players. I do genuinely see this summer as a watershed moment when the purse strings will be loosened. Based on the merits of recent transfer incomings, I’m sure many will question the manager’s ability to bring in the players that we need. Certainly a fair point, but one that I would consider alongside the many player-trading successes he has had.

I will admit that, at certain junctures of this season, my faith in the manager has waned massively – the same mistakes being made at the back primarily causing my chagrin (although my mood lifted slightly after Munich and Swansea). Despite this, I would still consider myself a Wenger-supporter (certainly not an ‘AKB’) but his credit in the bank has diminished by the season. He is deep into an unauthorised overdraft with many contributors on here, some of whom are praying for Arsenal to lose, ensuring we slip out of the top four and thereby creating a catalyst for change. I’m thinking exactly the opposite – I want us to finish as high as possible, firstly because I could never ever want Arsenal to lose and secondly, being in the CL next season will seriously enhance our prospects of attracting the top players.

Assuming the optimistic (but eminently plausible) scenario mentioned above comes to fruition, I feel Wenger deserves the opportunity for one last shot to deliver a trophy in the final season of his contract, and ultimately the right to earn another deal.

Up the Gunners.


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  1. northbank123

    Mar 23, 2013, 14:37 #33540

    Thanks - hadn't seen that before. But imo it's just the normal non-committal vague rubbish from Gazidis that feeds enough hope to the fans that things will change but doesn't give enough rope to hang himself with when the changes inevitably don't come. It's clear that Wenger is the one who has control over wages and that he staunchly defends the policy in the face of all reason. Gazidis isn't going to clash with Wenger and refuse to sanction contracts etc so unless it's Wenger saying these things then it means very little.

  2. GoonerRon

    Mar 21, 2013, 23:37 #33514

    @ northbank123 - Gazidis said in June "'We have inefficiency of spending in our squad - but we are moving towards as efficient a model as possible. our wage structure has been based around a flatter salary structure - that is part of a team ethos the manager develops, it's about interaction between players - not superstars. But we have looked at this carefully and we have to make adjustments for top talent. They are earning a lot of money and I don't think that will slow down. We have to adjust our model."

  3. northbank123

    Mar 21, 2013, 10:33 #33499

    "For the first time in a long time, the club have been pretty transparent with two key themes in relation to the financial status of the club; an admission that the wage-structure is inefficient and that we have a significant injection of cash coming from the renewed sponsorship deals." Firstly, please tell me where Wenger accepts we're spunking money away on wages. He doesn't acknowledge any mistakes and only recently was defending his 'socialist' wage structure. Secondly, how is the promise of money to spend any different from then £x milllion 'war chest' that we supposedly have every transfer window with Gazidis saying that the manager has money to spend.

  4. steveinstamford

    Mar 21, 2013, 9:16 #33496

    In the 15 years or so he has been at the club we have purchased the following. Centre backs Campbell followed by average to bad players. Centre forwards Anelka Henry Van Persie and a load of below average players. Goalkeepers Lehmann and a load of reserve keepers. Do we really trust his judgment now.

  5. Wenger out

    Mar 21, 2013, 4:36 #33493

    Sack the old fool. He's useless. Amount of quality transfer targets he's missed out on and the amount of class players he's sold he doesn't deserve to be anywhere near Arsenal. It's time to boycott games. Time to stop buying season tickets. Time for a half empty stadium. Only Arsene fans (not Arsenal fans) will attend games because they don't care if Arsenal drop out ot top 4 or become even more mediocre as all they care about is Wenger.

  6. Joe S.

    Mar 20, 2013, 20:17 #33486

    Obviously I meant season 2010-11 and not last season when finishishing 3rd could be viewed as a major achievement. It just goes to show how prevelant Ground Hog Day is when one season has blended into the other so that the only way to tell them apart is from the players who left Arsenal that particular year.

  7. Ramgun

    Mar 20, 2013, 15:41 #33475

    Quite so, Gooner Ron. And, as I said, Wenger staying is even worse. Ferguson was, and is, a hard-nosed trophy gatherer when he made his announcement whereas Wenger has failed to win so much as a League Cup in eight years. Can you imagine the atmosphere surrounding our club if Wenger limps through another groundhog season?

  8. Joe S.

    Mar 20, 2013, 8:49 #33457

    It was never about spending millions but hanging on to the quality we had and getting better value with the money that was available. On thatn count Arsene Wegner has failed. It is hard to talk about faith after the advent of the mediocre five,the stockpiling of dross and RVP marketed away to Manure with the blessings of all concerned. And who can forget season 2011-12 when the title was within reach and the MAN refused to strenghen leading on to Jack Wiltshire being overextended something which is continuing to this day. No, Arsene should move on. I don't believe he has learned anything and I wouldn't trust him with a large kitty to spend. He will talk of wanting only the best, ie Falcoa,the kid from Malaga, the kid from Fiorentina etc etc but in the end will settle for plugging holes with an aging and bruised David Villa or some other cut priced addition to a jigsaw which has too many similar pieces.

  9. Gooner72

    Mar 20, 2013, 7:57 #33456

    Anyone that thinks OGL will step aside / move on at the end of the season is deluded. £7 million a year is the answer why he won't. As for anyone who thinks he can turn it around in the last year of his contract I'll give you JUST four names to chew on, Santos, Gervinho, Park and Squallaci!!!! Change was needed some seasons ago, why are we all afraid of change, there was life after Graham and there will be life after OGL, Arsenal fans wake up the time for change is now!!!!

  10. N4

    Mar 20, 2013, 4:28 #33455

    If we don't get our players early on into the holiday season then we all know that it will be the same old cr@p.

  11. Gare Kekeke

    Mar 20, 2013, 3:30 #33454

    Well written piece with some things I do agree with. Initially I think Wenger was hamstrung with funds since the stadium move but I don’t think that’s been the case since 2009 when most of Highbury Square was sold and the ever increasing wage bill, which for this season is likely to be more than £150m (supposedly up to £15m less than champions-elect Man Utd) for me is proof that Wenger has had plenty of money at his disposal. And that’s before I mention the millions (some of it squandered) on buying players. As for players leaving; yes, Arshavin & Squillaci will leave because of the expiry of their contracts but as for the others you have mentioned, good luck on the club on that. They have been talked of leaving for the last two years but they are still there. Oh I forgot, according to the Wenger apologists, the players you mentioned are not earning between £40k-60k pw and it’s a myth put out by the so-called AAA (the Wenger apologists should have a word with the Arsenal Trust and they will tell you the details of the wage bill). Btw, Denilson’s contract I believe expires in 2014 but I stand to be corrected on that. We have been in the European Cup on a regular basis under Wenger since 1998/99 (and can I point out we have only had two good seasons and we still haven’t won it) and we very rarely attract top players so I don’t believe the notion that we need to be in it to sign them. I do think Wenger will see out his contract at the very least but I sadly think he will offered another one in the summer to take him to 2017 so that the club can do the “Wenger’s 20 years as Arsenal manager” thing and with FFP from the Premier League & UEFA imminent (that’s if both are fully enforced), Wenger will believe that belatedly he will be competing on a level playing field. Football hasn’t had a level playing field for many years so why do Wenger and his apologists beg for one now. I don’t think he should be offered another contract. I’m of the opinion that Wenger should step down this summer regardless of where we finish in the league this season. For me, he’s had his time and money to build on the ‘Invincibles’ but sadly he has failed. But with Kroenke & Gazidis still running the show, the status quo will be retained.

  12. Van de Ed

    Mar 20, 2013, 1:00 #33453

    First of all, Wenger is the Board; and the Board is Wenger. With the exception of Fergie, Le Boss is probably the only other gaffer in world football who's made it known in no uncertain terms that him ALONE, will decide when it's time to leave! As he says "I always respect my contracts..". Secondly, the notion that we need to 'win' a top 4 place to attract big stars is rubbish because Le Boss NEVER signs BIG NAME STARS; EVER!! So in this light, I expect more of the same next season and/or till whenever Le Boss decides he's had enough 'fun' torturing/dividing fellow gooners!

  13. GoonerRon

    Mar 19, 2013, 22:59 #33452

    @ Gaz - I think the main difference between us and Man U is they have the greatest manager that ever walked the earth, plus they have still spent £250m more than us on net transfer spend and wages in the last 5 seasons. @ Greg - where did I say Wenger was a hero? @ The Noise - in the last 6 summers we have never announced a record breaking sponsorship deal and publicly highlighted that it will increase our spending power. @ Ramgun - if Wenger stays next year why does it have to on the premise he is definitely leaving at the end of his contract? No one was calling David Moyes a lame duck when Everton turned the champions over last weekend yet he is 'assessing his options' at the end of the season.

  14. Alsace Lorraine de Totteridge

    Mar 19, 2013, 22:32 #33451

    The thought of him lasting until the end of this season is bad enough, let alone next and still less and extension of contract. Ron is right about one thing, this season is different. Tottenham are trying very hard to throw their gains away but there is a fair to even chance that we will not qualify for the Champions League. Wenger is in a race between the deterioration of the overall standard of the league and the unravelling of what passes for his game plan. A very unexciting Man U side are going to win the league by a staggering margin, because their manager is very good at the basics and will not accept anything less than compliance with them. Wenger has relied on the resilience and resource of a dwindling band of talented players. Well, he has now sold all save one of his matchwinners, and the last one in injured. Time for chickens to come home to roost. The sooner he goes, the sooner the rebuilding can begin. I have got to the stage where I am going to put a large picture of him on a dartboard. It may provide some therapy pending the happy day when he no longer disfigures and infests our club.

  15. GG89

    Mar 19, 2013, 21:14 #33450

    Ummm. The author has been taken in by some spin from the club and run to quick to post on here... And, hey we can still mathematically win the league...

  16. Ramgun

    Mar 19, 2013, 19:54 #33449

    I can offer nothing but doom and gloom I'm afraid. If Wenger see's out the last year of his contract then he will be a lame-duck manager. Even Ferguson lost authority when he announced that he was retiring (unfortunately, he changed his mind) almost a decade ago. The other scenario, Wenger being given a new contract, is even worse. Wenger will never walk away from his job (and massive salary) and the ignorant , be-wigged creep who owns our club will never sack him. I can see no way out. I hope that I am wrong.

  17. Joe Fitzpatrick

    Mar 19, 2013, 19:49 #33448

    I can't see Kroenke spending any significant money on player recruitment in the summer. We need Usmanov to commpletely take over the club, replace Gazidis with Dein and then we might be moving in the right direction.

  18. maguiresbridge gooner

    Mar 19, 2013, 18:53 #33447

    EL Bodgeo, I agree the players have to accept some responsibility even though the weren't up to the job ,the manager was responsible for signing them in the first place(not kroenke,Ivan,Hillwood,The board,) so your right the buck stops with him (even though some would have us believe it didn't).I'm glad you mentioned the coaches, imo they have to accept some responsibility as well especially the keeper coach/coaches is it any coincidence we have/had four keepers all with great potential since Jens who have never been up to the job and are not looking likely to be anytime soon.As for the rest what do they do apart from being yes men, if their also not up to the job again it all comes back to wenger it's his responsibility the buck stops with him.So if and when the clear out does come, as well as the dross players the yes men on the coaching staff need to feel the clean broom on their arses as well.

  19. Green Hut

    Mar 19, 2013, 18:27 #33446

    Don't worry mate, you may be in the minority on here but in the soulless bowl you are still part of a big majority of hand-wringers who will forever keep finding a new, illogical reason to give Wenger just one more final last chance.

  20. au revoir wenger

    Mar 19, 2013, 17:18 #33445

    you say being in the cl will enhance our prospects of attracting top players.when has Wenger ever bought a top player?never has and never will wake up.

  21. jah gooner

    Mar 19, 2013, 17:05 #33444

    Wenger has made too many mistakes to come back from. For example needing to build a strong squad for all games to be played in EPL/CL/FA Cup, his logic was to buy squad playera and bring them on with the youngsters. This hasn't happened and the pressure is telling on the players like Jack who have to carry the rest. Back to the future on the injury. Change must come, evolution if possible, revolution if necessary. The article is right that the next three to six months is the watershed.

  22. Greg

    Mar 19, 2013, 17:02 #33443

    2 Wins and all of a sudden by your comment,wenger is a hero,total bull, his the one that bought all these players in, its his fault that we have a pile of s..t players who are on high earnings that no one wants. Do you really trust him in buying good players, time for him to go at the end of the season and take the pile of s..t players with him... How MANY TIMES OVER THE LAST 5-6 years weve been told we have money to spend ???????? Why do i here people and puntits on TV say that if were not in the champions league we will not attract quality good players... Weve been in the Champions league for over 15 years and we still didn't buy any quality players... We should have won the league 2 or 3 more times, why didn't we ? because wenger didn't have the bottle to spend big.. Why you buy is what you get..that's why were in the mess we are......

  23. Bard

    Mar 19, 2013, 16:52 #33442

    I get where you are coming from Ronnie but it is based on the notion of hope over reality. Wenger's p***** shedloads of money over the last 6 yrs and having another transfer window of protracted negotiations for second rate players is more than I can stand. Why should having more money make a difference ? He's lost it. He will stay till the end of his contract leaving the club with another cupboard full of Gervinho's Arshavin's Squallaci's etc all.

  24. mad max

    Mar 19, 2013, 16:39 #33441

    if wenger had any decencey he would have walked after the bradford humiliation,no please dont give him another contract,the lack of ambition is slowly killing me.stuff the champions league it would be great to win a domestic cup again and at least challenge man ure again.wenger OUT in the summer viva le revolution.

  25. maguiresbridge gooner

    Mar 19, 2013, 15:39 #33440

    Ronnie, we've been saying the summer break is the most important three to four months if we want to push on, for five or six seasons now or more,and nothing much has changed,and i doubt if it's going to be any different this time round unless there's a serious change of philosophies or manager and i wouldn't bet on that. One thing you can bet on though is the PR spin/clangers regarding players if the last five or six seasons is anything to go by.Here we are again in our favorite position (out of everything again)with the pack chasing us again, with nine games to go,hoping for commitment from a bunch of players (who haven't shown much commitment or competitiveness over the last twenty five games or so especially Bradford and Blackburn) just so we can catch our neighbors (again)and scrape in to fourth place so we can qualify for the CL and hopefully attract top players,that hasn't exactly helped in the past,what might be more attractive to top players, real top players the money aspect aside would be if we were capable of winning it and that's not likely with the team and squad this manager has assembled, and whether purse strings are loosened or not until philosophies change not much else will.He has had more than ample opportunities some would say numerous shots at delivering a trophy (Blackburn, Bradford)and getting it right(more than any other manager would have had or will have in the future)over the last eight seasons and failed so there's not much chance of it happening in the last year of his contract,but if he were to deliver a pot would that suddenly make everything alright after eight years of failure ? nothing will have changed.

  26. johnnyhawleyloovinggooner

    Mar 19, 2013, 14:46 #33439

    "the most important three to four mounths in the history of the club". from when?this time last year and the RVP crisis or the year before when we had the cesc crisis or the year before when we sold...... this cannot go on. it has been drama after crisis for so long now it almost feels the norm.

  27. GoonerRon

    Mar 19, 2013, 14:03 #33438

    To be honest it's not an unexpected response from the majority. As I was writing the article it did occur to me that the scenario I was endorsing would be a leap of faith for many, a massive leap of faith for others and completely unpalatable for some. The reason why I've said what I've said is because I do believe this summer IS different to others in that there has been a tangible shift in our finances that has been made public. I think for the first time there is a genuine opportunity (and confidence displayed from the club) that we can buy big ticket players on top wages. I understand giving the manager the money is madness to some on here, but I still totally believe that Wenger wants the best for the club and that deep down he is a winner. I know 8 years without a tropgy is too long for Arsenal, but I guess I am just prepared to wait slightly longer than others for the next one, which if it doesn't arrive next season would be the right time for the club to cut ties with the manager.

  28. Ron

    Mar 19, 2013, 14:02 #33437

    AW is staying anyway for one more year, that much is clear so theres no debate to have. Hes treading water in my view until his contract ends and the Club know it and are happy with it. Hes not inclined and nor is he expected to invest heavily in better quality players and his prudence means that hes taking the view perhaps that any brave signings will be for his successor. For all his faults Wengers care for the Club has never been in doubt and i get the impression that hes reluctant to spend, knowing hes going in 12 months and that its something best addressed by a new Coach who wont then be inheriting expensive players with high salaries that he wouldnt necessarily would want. It all adds up to another humdrum season 2013/14, but thats what we re saddled with and it suits the Boards scheme of things too. We keep debating and commenting, going over the same old ground but really, theres no point. These decisons are already set in stone between AW and the Board. Its perhaps closer to the mark to suggest that Arsenal and Wenger already know who his successor is? It wouldnt surprise me at all and further,that the new Coach is already in on the grand plan. Im guessing also that not one of the oft suggested new Coaches will even get close to a sniff at the job.

  29. Highbury Boy

    Mar 19, 2013, 14:00 #33436

    I think Ronnie that you have been influenced a bit too much by the last 2 results. Wenger has had his chances to deliver a trophy and apart from his (and the Board's) 4th place trophy he has failed. He was brilliant in the first half of his Arsenal career. Much less so in the second half. Thanks very much but let's move and let someone else spend the money wisely. The playing staff the new manager will inherit is much weaker than the squad Wenger inherited (the famous back 5 plus Bergkamp and Wright;not bad for starters).

  30. bunch

    Mar 19, 2013, 13:53 #33434

    Disagree, its time for Wenger to go. He has lost the ability to motivate a team to win when the pressure is really on. Too many groundhoug day moments over the past few seasons have made it clear to me that we will never win another trophy under this manager.

  31. AugustusCaesar

    Mar 19, 2013, 13:46 #33433

    Very good article. For me the ideal scenario is for Wenger to be given the last season of his contract to turn the clubs fortunes around. I do not, though, want his contract to be renewed if we finish in the top 4 this season. For me a it's a last chance saloon scenario next season. I don't agree with those that say we shouldn't give Wenger the cash to spend because he'll waste it. His performance in the transfer market is patchy but he's not alone in this. He doesn't have the benefit of hindsight to judge whether a player will be a success. We can all quote Wenger signings that have both been a success and a failure. In amongst the paucity of decent signings recently has Wenger been given any credit for acquiring and developing Carl Jenkinson, for example? I don't think he has. If he does blow the money and we have another poor season I'm sure a new manager will not have zero money to spend. Arsenal are savvy enough not to hold some back should next season turn to dust.

  32. El Bodgeo

    Mar 19, 2013, 13:25 #33432

    Gaz, you are absolutely spot on. Our steady decline has simply mirrored wenger's. Yes the playing staff have to accept some measure of responsibility for the past 7-8 years performances, hence the reason we all keep banging on about war-chests and who we can draft in as superstar replacements. But did we really need Cavani, Villa, Goetze etc etc in our team to compete against Bradford or Blackburn? No of course not. These and many other poor substandard performances we have suffered were largely due to extremely poor preparation, motivation and attitude. All players look to their manager and coaches for tactical guidance, for a gameplan or a chest thumping team talk but are our players getting any of this? The buck has to stop with our manager. Yes, new signings will make us feel better in July and August but by the end of next September, we will be in the same boat all over again. No more contract extensions for a manager who is so clearly past his best, we really really need a change at our club. Please.

  33. Red Member

    Mar 19, 2013, 13:18 #33431

    the trouble is this season for me was Wenger's last chance. we finished 3rd in the PL last season and this was a chance to kick on and challenge the top 2. instead we sold our best player to our nearest challenger and this has resulted in them now winning the PL this season! if we now finish outside the top 4 any new investment will be too late as no top player will want to join.

  34. Gaz

    Mar 19, 2013, 13:07 #33430

    I'll tell you why this money excuse is nothing more than a red herring. When Wenger first arrived he not only competed with but beat on a regular basis a Utd side that-even in those days-had far more money than us to invest. Ok, since then City and Chelsea have been taken over and invested heavily but even if you weakly accept we can't compete with them how are we finding ourselves so far behind Utd on a regular basis? Something else has changed and if we're all honest we all know that Wengers managing over this period has simply not been good enough. I agree with those who believe that rather than sentiment theres not one reason why he should be trusted with this 'rumoured' money thats now available to him. And like me you may even believe that he's always had substantial money to spend but he's simply wasted a lot of it on poor players and undeserved salleries.

  35. Big Andy

    Mar 19, 2013, 13:02 #33429

    Logically, Wenger has to go at the end of this season. Even if we finish fourth there will be a massive outcry if The Nutty Professor is awarded a new contract this summer. And if Wenger is allowed to continue on next season into his last year then he will be a lame duck, unable to motivate players who know that he is probably going. So he must go at the end of this season - wherever we finish.

  36. Cambridge Gooner - Abject Failure Corporation

    Mar 19, 2013, 12:32 #33428

    Good article and well written. The problem is that you could have posted the same one for 5 or 6 years now, it has lost its relevance. Please channel your excellent support into a manager who deserves it; Wenger must not be allowed to brainwash good people like yourself into letting him snatch defeat from the jaws of success for one more season.

  37. Fishpie

    Mar 19, 2013, 12:15 #33427

    Ronnie, I enjoyed your article and I can see where you are coming from. The reality is Mr Wenger will see out his contract next season. If he's of a mind to stay beyond that, I think he knows he has to win the fans over again and that means he'll need to buy serious players this summer in goal, at centre back, at holding mid and striker (and kick out the dross). If he does that and the team do better (i.e. better defensive performances, more effort and team spirit , really competing for the Prem and/or a trophy etc)he and the club will have firmer ground on which to renew the contract and bring the fans with them. If on the other hand he does nothing or pathetic business in the summer and the team flounders all over again, the club will find it hard to renew with the Manager cos I think the outcry will be loud and it may seriously jeopardize season ticket income. If Mr Wenger, on the other hand, is not currently inclined to stay beyond 2014, he may just deliberately do the bare minimum in the transfer market this summer and leave his replacement with more to spend.

  38. Big Sean

    Mar 19, 2013, 11:43 #33426

    When people say we need to be in the champions league to attract better players, the following question came to me. Have we ever bought top quality players with considerable CL experience?

  39. Peter Wain

    Mar 19, 2013, 11:09 #33425

    I have a problem with the argument that we should let Wenger see his contract out. This comming transfer window is the most important time for Arsenal when it is now acknowledge that the club has money and is prepared to invest it. The club has made investments in the past five years of considerable amounts of money to no avail. We have bought players of dubious quality given them inflated salaries and when they fail have had to suffer the cost of their salaries over the length of the contract. Lets us not forget how many of these failures are on loan such a fatty Santos and the greatest striker in the world. They are proven failures well rewarded by weak management and why should we say ok you can have another chance. When do we make a change? After we have spent the £70 million and when a new man comes in do we say well we spent £70 million and you cannot have money unless you get rid of these players. No better make the change now. Why should we trust millions to a manager who has failed to buy the top top quality that he is always referring to. Why trust a man who regularly sites CL qualification as a trophy saying it attracts top players only for him to purchase third and fourth rate dross. No if we have money then let us make a fresh start and get rid of the owner Gazidis and the rest of the geriatric board as well as the manager so that we can start again. Wenger has had his chance and he took Arsenal to incredible heights but the last eight years has seen a decline in the quality of both the players and type of football we play and enough is enough.

  40. markymark

    Mar 19, 2013, 11:02 #33424

    Lets finish this season, hope that we can get top 4, which still aint good enough, remember we moved to compete against Manure. Get Frank ryjkard in, whatever Wenger does, change is needed, and back him with the new found money. Letting Wenger give himself a new contract is NOT the way forward, change is needed after 8 years of going backwards. If he stays nothing will change and you know it !

  41. The Noise

    Mar 19, 2013, 10:29 #33423

    Awww yes... The annual deluded post predicting a summer spending spree even though we've been here 6 summers in a row (12 windows, in total)... These kind of posts are becoming more boring than Wenger and his excuses.

  42. billthered

    Mar 19, 2013, 10:08 #33422

    Well Ronnie you and me think alike,I could never in a million years wish Arsenal to lose unlike that lot down the road remember Man ure a few years ago last game of the season.But I think some people at the club dont think like you and me otherwise they would not have put the dross you mention on sky high wages and play them would they.

  43. Gaz

    Mar 19, 2013, 9:51 #33421

    Well written article but really haven't we been in this position over the past few years before only for Wenger to make none of the changes you all seem to want? For me this season was his very (VERY) last chance and he blew it big time with the Norwich away defeat. Since then I've not only lost all faith in him but the results and performances have generally not been good enough culminating in us blowing the only real chances we had of trophies agianst the petro dollar driven Clubs of Blackburn and Bradford. It just seems to me that theres a core support that are willing to keep on offering Wenger (and the board) excuse after excuse after excuse and I'm genuinely amazed and saddened by that. I read a recent article that made the point that in general managers tend not to improve after they reach a certain age and I find it hard to believe that Wengers going to somehow find the magic that led us to three league titles nine years ago. Yes Wengers earned a lot of credit for things done in the past but at some point-a point I believe we're well past now-we have to accept he's just not as good as he once was. And I realise this is a point I've made before but the 'money' issue really is a red herring as far as Wengers concerned. Because most of our problems really have nothing to do with money and everything to do with a manager who wont delegate coaching duties, fails to motivate the side for important games, and tactically always seems to be-and I'm using a phrase from Le Boss's own phrase book here-'a little bit short'. So I'm sorry but for me there can be no more chances and no more 'lets wait until the summer to see what he does'. He's been great for this Club and I'll never joke about him or abuse him. But for the sake of my own sanity and in a bid to take the absolute boredam I'm feeling away he just has to go.

  44. nas

    Mar 19, 2013, 9:50 #33420

    If next season is indeed a season for change, with money in the bank and the potential to assemble a stronger team we may as well include a new manager. New quality players, new manager, new belief. It doesn't seem likely wenger knows what to do with a big transfer kitty and if he's still in charge there will be too much uncertainty and lack of faith expressed by the growing number of fans who want him out, which will be bad for the team. #wenger out

  45. clockendpaul

    Mar 19, 2013, 9:46 #33419

    Another season ronnie, where have you been the last five or six years. We need to start rebuilding this summer with a new man in charge with fresh ideas, not the same tired,stale and incompetent lying fool.

  46. Deejaycee17

    Mar 19, 2013, 9:27 #33418

    Giving Arsene Wenger an injection of cash in the summer would be madness in my opinion!! You only have to look at some of his latest over price acquisitions to see that!! Plus if we do want to bring in a new manager when his contract runs out next summer he would be faced with an even bigger task to clear out the dross on over inflated egos and contracts!! I say regardless of where we finish this season it's time for a new start with a younger manager with fresh ideas and modern techniques!! The end of Groundhog Season must be upon us...Wenger OUT!!!

  47. Where's Wally is a Gooner

    Mar 19, 2013, 9:16 #33417

    What we know is that Wenger will stay for another season and that we have considerable money to spend.I suspect he wants another lucrative contract at the club so he may well spend just enough to save his job. I certainly don't think he wants to go to another job where he would be put under more pressure. Will he spend it wisely,not if he keeps listening to Grimandi.The last week has been a monster result for the marketing department who need to shift a large amount of season tickets.Expect to see us connected to all kinds of unrealistic targets in the next few months.

  48. Paul

    Mar 19, 2013, 9:09 #33416

    I am sorry next seaon will be like the last eight.Wenger should go at the end of this season.Finishing 4th again is not success.Name another top club in Europe which has gone 8 years without a trophy.Wenger is still Atrsenal manager for one reason only he makes profits.So there is no way he will spend £80-£100m on the quality players we need.Just take a look at the league table the gap between Utd and us is 24pts.That is embarrassing

  49. Jumpers for Goalposts

    Mar 19, 2013, 8:44 #33415

    More rose-tinted optimism based purely on wishful thinking. Why should anyone believe that the Club are going to unleash the mythical "war-chest" that has lain untouched for 7 years? And why should anyone believe that Wenger is suddenly going to stop awarding huge contracts to dreadful players? How much sentiment did Wenger show Robert Pires?? NONE! - and that's how much sentiment Wenger himself now deserves after 7 years of lies, deceit, spin, half-truths and arrogance.

  50. Ronster

    Mar 19, 2013, 8:38 #33414

    We are witnessing a new Pontiff,a humble man,a man of the people suddenly rejuvenating a church that had lost its way.Isn't it about time the Franco-German Pope in North London had the good grace to call it a day?

  51. mark from aylesbury

    Mar 19, 2013, 8:36 #33413

    One more season.... can take it if genuine change is occuring. Right to apply for new contract. No way. It will also create a massive rift in the fanbase as well. Time to move on with a new manager

  52. cp lanesra

    Mar 19, 2013, 8:22 #33412

    well written article but when you look at the quality of player we have been getting over the last few years i am not sure if AW can assemble a team capable of challenging for honours.there is also something seriously wrong with our coaching.its time for a change.

  53. Unchives

    Mar 19, 2013, 8:01 #33411

    I agree with your piece. There will be money to spend, players leaving & squad strengthening. There will be no where for Wenger & Gazidis to hide after next season if they do not Deliver. NO EXCUSES......TIME TO DELIVER!

  54. Ken

    Mar 19, 2013, 7:51 #33410

    SAME OLD SAME OLD, WIN HERE AND A WIN THERE AND HE IS MR WONDERFUL. OH GOD ANOTHER SEASON WITH WENGER.WAKE ME UP WHEN IS GONE.ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

  55. Reg

    Mar 19, 2013, 7:50 #33409

    Can't agree with the "let Wenger see out his contract" arguement. Every press conference next season will be about Wenger's future and it will be a self inflicted PR related nightmare. The board have to make a decision at the end of the season, either back him with a new contract or pension him off. 4th and expect a new contract is my guess and a mass exodus when groundhog day grinds on.