End of Season Review

Will pragmatism continue to reign next season?



End of Season Review


As the season drew to a close, we heard Gary Neville telling Arsenal fans and Arsène Wenger that now was the time to kick on, despite praising the team’s resilience and effectiveness in winning 26 points from the last 30 on offer, and we saw most bloggers say ‘never again, please’. Clearly, widely-held reservations about the season exist but are we being overly negative in our assessment of Arsène and the team? The end-of-season fan surveys will tell us the popular view, but this writer decided to try and dispassionately review how the season went and how the team is placed for next season.

Taking the season as a whole, and comparing it with 2011/12, we saw:
• A strong end-of-season run yielding 26 points from 30 with five straight away wins
• Three extra points (five more away, two fewer at home)
• A tighter defence, especially away, helping to generate more away points
• A similar number of goals scored.

At face value, that sounds quite good but underneath:
• The ten-game run was not without good fortune (at West Brom and Fulham particularly) and featured only draws against top opposition (Man U and Everton)
• Spurs also upped their points tally by three, earning more from big games while Arsenal earned less from the top teams and more from the weaker teams
• Arsenal’s home form was poor with three losses and five draws in the league and two home defeats in the Champions League, an unwelcome new phenomenon
• Goals scored were concentrated in a few big-scoring games (Newcastle, Southampton, West Ham, Reading (twice), Spurs, Norwich and Wigan were eight games with 40 of our 73 goals). In 30 other games, Arsenal scored only 33 goals.

What characterised the season was an initial attempt to play the same formation and style of football as when Fabregas and van Persie were present, leading to a string of poor results against quality opposition. After crushing defeats and poor displays in the cup competitions and in the league, we saw the introduction of a pragmatic, containing and more counterattacking-based game. The change in approach was not so much in formation as in personnel with seven key changes:
• Vermaelen was dropped and Koscielny brought in to central defence
• Cazorla replaced Podolski wide left, providing better defensive cover and faster attacks in turnover situations
• Rosicky replaced Cazorla/Wilshere in the centre providing more energy defensively
• Ramsey became Arteta’s partner in holding-midfield, adding more energy defensively
• Goalkeeper was changed for five games
• One full-back always seemingly held defensive positioning to avoid exposure on turnovers
• The team tried to exploit Walcott’s pace by getting the ball passed forward quicker and more directly (playing on the break more).

Arsenal games became narrow one-goal margin affairs built on defence in much the same way as many other modern teams seek to play, with set play and break away goals increasingly important.

The million dollar question therefore is will Arsène persist with this style of football and seek to enhance the quality of participants available to him, or will he try and find players to enable him to return to a more expansive possession-based game?

In regard to the former option, it was very noticeable how thin Arsenal’s squad seemed to be despite relatively few significant injuries.
• Chamakh and Arshavin both technically made up attacking options at season’s start and poor Arshavin was even sent on in the Chelsea game; and
• Squillaci and Djourou were the fourth centre-back option.

While these are obvious areas for enhancement, Arsène may equally choose to look at how Podolski and Gervinho fared and how reliable they are as wide left cover, and he has to manage the second-keeper situation with Fabianski shortly out of contract. To revert to the second option of playing expansive possession football seems more fraught, as he has not found a winning recipe of players. Giroud and Walcott, while effective in the pragmatic game, are unreliable when frequent touches and close control are more important, and Cazorla was less effective when burdened with the responsibility for making things happen in a crowded advanced central position against quality opposition like United, City or Chelsea. To play that style well needs a lot of quality players in the front four (like Chelsea), and Arsenal seem a long way from that level, so this option would seem to need even more change than sticking with the first option. The writer hopes Arsène will persist with the new, “old style” of containing and countering football he has introduced, as he has a stronger proven base to deliver success with it from.

Talking of the manager, where does this leave us with the key question of his standing? Mid-season he had some bad ratings on Black Scarf and Online Gooner surveys, but he has delivered a tremendous run in the league and a memorable “victory” over Spurs in the top-four race.

His transfer market approach has been concerning, with apparent dithering evident during the January window, but the evidence of his changing the team and his approach to winning the “trophy” he covets was, to the author, a most welcome break from the stubborn approach widely perceived to have been the norm these past few seasons. So, without wishing to prejudge the end-of-season surveys, the author suspects fans will vote to give him a chance to build on this new 1-0 to the Arsenal winning team and deliver some genuine silverware as well as a top-four finish next season.

(Ed’s note – To give us your own view of the season just gone, you can vote online in our annual Gooner survey. A word of warning - once you start, if you exit the thing halfway through you cannot complete the survey later, so I’d ensure you have 20 or 30 minutes to complete it before you begin actually filling in answers. However, there is nothing to stop you looking through all the questions before you begin. To look at it, and complete it if you do have the time, click here. We will run the results online during the summer. Closing date for voting is Sunday 9th June.


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  1. Cy_gooner

    May 31, 2013, 15:13 #35324

    More points from weaker teams and less successfull with the bigger teams. That sums up Arsenal'spotential. Now invest in the team and we will be genuine contenders.

  2. maguiresbridge gooner

    May 30, 2013, 13:06 #35290

    Reality bites, i also think it's more than possible and it doesn't surprise me. The keeper coaching set up is something that has been brought up on here time after time over the seasons,surely it cant be a coincidence that none of our keepers have improved after so long,that we haven't had a decent keeper (and that's being kind)since Lens especially one we could rely on. A complete clear out is required in the keeper department starting with the coaches.

  3. Red Member

    May 30, 2013, 9:26 #35285

    Ron makes a good point about fans needing to stay away so that change can be forced upon the club. It is basically down to the season ticket holders though. if enough of them renew then the status quo will be maintained. Season ticket holders are the board and Wenger's greatest supporters whether they like it or not.

  4. Endless, Nameless

    May 30, 2013, 8:53 #35284

    Here we ara again then...after all the bluster and soundbites about our being "very active" this summer, it appears we are yet again dithering over valuation of a player (Jovetic) and yet again, a club with ambition (Chelsea) look like swooping in and beating us to the man. Have we learned? Have we ****. It seems like the 26 points from 30 will ironically turn out to be the worst thing that could have happened.

  5. N4

    May 30, 2013, 1:37 #35283

    Totally with deluded on this one!!!

  6. Reality bites

    May 30, 2013, 0:31 #35282

    Anyone that really thinks wenger has discovered pragmatism, just take a look at the link provided on arise log for 29 May. A basic summary, should you choose to believe this article, it seems our goal keeper was dropped not over poor performances but because he chose to question wenger over goal keeper coaching, an issue that has provoked doubts in so many fans. This linked article also suggests he took this action after consulting Jens. Should you chose to believe this, and I for one think it is more than possible, wenger , the champion of youth dropped a struggling but talented young keeper for asking for help. No wonder our keepers dad was so annoyed. A punishment for a man trying to improve the team, should that not raise serious questions of wengers management. I can easlily believe our captain was dropped for similar reasons, praising bould in the press early season, and those alleged summit meetings between players and wenger when things were going horribly wrong. Did our skipper take the teams concerns to wenger and pay the price? No wonder RVP stipulated outside coaches being bought in...in addition to other things as conditions to him signing another contract

  7. Ronster

    May 30, 2013, 0:02 #35281

    Ashley Cole...100 England caps...schooled by George Graham and sold by Arsene Wenger.

  8. CanadaGooner

    May 29, 2013, 22:25 #35280

    Does anyone know why Podolski scores so many goals for the German national team and not so many at Arsenal?

  9. Ron

    May 29, 2013, 21:18 #35278

    Reality bites - You make great points again, especially the one about Wengers 'name' internationally. Even though hes potless for so many years,he's never lost his veneer ( mainly due to his urbane frenchness i suspect - if he was English he'd be condemned from pillar to post for his failings) and you're right in that they would never want to seek a truly top contemporary Coach due to the cost first and foremost and secondly, as they know a top man would make demands of them and if such demands aren't met, would make a noise about it. The Boards football naivety and Wenger, knowing they're as green as the grass, plus his big salary to keep him quiet (if he has any reservations about the Board that is - i suspect he doesn't) and no pressure to win trophies, makes it all a far too comfortable gents Club there. Its very unhealthy, but while they're all singing from the same hymn sheet and the cash flows in, it makes them strong, UNLESS the fans say NO, this high priced mediocrity isn't enough, hence my view that more of us should stay away. The Wenger detractors are growing in number i'm convinced of that and more are slowly seeing through the Clubs spin, but it going to be a slow job. If it is however truly his last year coming up and things stay the same, they will herald his departure with all the regalia and trumpets and talk of 'legacy', yet they're true test is yet to come when they do replace him - maybe they already know their man? Who knows with Arsenal. Its always been a Club that keeps its cards close to its chest, like the KGB!

  10. Fozzy's mate

    May 29, 2013, 19:02 #35277

    As ever admirable optimism. The boards dream of scraping into 4th having spent nothing while the bank balance soars has once again come true. That followed by the annual tossing around of big names while we all renew our season tickets. As a jaundiced ST of 26 years I do not bother with the speculation at all. Let's see whether OGL or the DDT and disciples want to kick on or simply tread water for the umpteenth year. Credit to 0GL for the final ten games but while that is the level of our ambition we will continue to sign the Gervinhos of this world. Let's see what August brings.

  11. Reality bites

    May 29, 2013, 17:19 #35276

    Some very valid points Ron and Carlos. The point is raised about them knowing nothing about football, and this is believe is a very significant point, they are scared to be the ones who get rid of Wenger in case it all goes even worse on their watch, and lets face it, with their combined football knowledge, it might. The other factor is that Wenger fits the bill for such a brand conscious entity, he is very well known, and dare I say well liked in the new territories of our proposed expansion. It is highly unlikely they would be able to recruit another such manager. Maybe I am letting Stan and Ivan off lightly, but I cannot believe our CEO at least...can watch what is going on and have no desire to change at least some of it. We have a once talented manager who has been allowed to become set in his ways and hijack a club to prove a point. Maybe our CEO is, perhaps naively trying to make the best of a bad job with wenger? still, if wenger won't strengthen significantly this summer, and is likely to happen, FFP is shown up as what it really is, I cannot see anywhere left for Wenger to hide

  12. CanadaGooner

    May 29, 2013, 15:26 #35275

    What I find a little annoying about Onlinegooner, is that someone posts an article titled "End of Season Review" and there are only around 30 comments. Where are all those opinionated folks that urged demonstrations and all that midway through the season? June - July is the time we should voice our concerns and opinions about the club as it becomes silly after the season has started, when such display of anger only harms the team (or is that what people want?). Seems the patterns is that everyone takes a break after the season's over, and then start yelping when we lose our first game or two of the new season! What can be achieved at that point??

  13. David

    May 29, 2013, 13:10 #35273

    Had this been 95/96, then Arsenal would've been a mere 2 points off the top. Or take 88/89 - this season's points tally is only 3 points short of doing something equally memorable. These stats are all grasping at straws. Arsenal did all that they were capable of - whether they do it with a flourish, as the Fabregas teams did - or with some fairly stodgy star-less football, as over the last year- Arsenal achieve the same thing. In fact Arsenal have yo yoed between 3rd and 4th place for the past 7 years with all the inevitability of a bald Russian leader following a hairy Russian leader. Tedious stuff.

  14. FEEL THE SHIRT

    May 29, 2013, 12:22 #35272

    THANKS THIERRY; EVEN LISTENING TO YOU AND SEEING YOU TALK ABOUT THE CLUB ON SKY WARMED ME UP. A WINNER. AS HE SAID WE HAD NOTHING TO CELEBRATE FROM THIS SEASON

  15. David

    May 29, 2013, 11:39 #35271

    Bard 9:22am 28th May 2013 - couldn't agree more. Hopefully this will be AWs last season in charge.

  16. Ron

    May 29, 2013, 11:08 #35270

    Carlos - Sorry mate. I should have read your comments. Ive just made the same point as you had already aired!

  17. Ron

    May 29, 2013, 10:56 #35269

    Reality bites - an interesting theory but flawed i feel. Those who run Arsenal are there to run it and have been there long enough to assess whats going on and what was going on before they arrived. If they cant manage (tame) the nutty professor, they shouldnt be in management. They perhaops still know nothing about football and thats their achilles heel, but its time they did or took somebody on to the Board who does to guide them. Wenger doesnt have half the power there that people suggest. Hes just an employee after all and yes, hes maybe had too much influence vested in him i agree. The reality is that Wenger and the Board are one with each other probably and that while they make money, the fans agenda for 'glory' and trophies is an irrelevance and even, privately an annoyance to them. The 'customers'need to wake up and see Arsenal for whats its become and should exercise their ultimate weapon to change things and stop going to worship at the N7 cash cow. A half empty souless, glass bowl will soon concentrate the minds of those with power. They will then either react or get out.

  18. MoFaya

    May 29, 2013, 10:52 #35268

    Even more important is the poorer home form compared to the away form. At the Emirates Arsenal play predictable football that is countered by the opposition's 'park the bus approach'. Arsenal in turn DO NOT HAVE A COUNTER STRATEGY TO THE PARK THE BUS TACTICS OF WEAKER TEAMS. The result is three 'horrible to watch' losses and two draws against VERY BEATABLE OPPOSITION'. A PLAN B is required to counter the Park the Bus Strategy. This Plan B must be rehearsed at training in anticipation and not employed as a knee-jerk and desperate reaction towards the end of the match where you find Mattersacker now playing as a striker. This counter-strategy is important enough to influence this summer's transfer strategy in that Wenger should bring in players suited to the PLAN B. Wenger must however identify the need for such a strategy in very must the same way you explained the mid-season transformation to pragmatism leading to '1-0 to the Arsenal' victories. I believe Arsenal can still win the league with current players and PLAN B. Arsenal should also stop leaking goals all from set-pieces where all that was needed a player positioned inside the post. Such goals were conceded to Norwich and Chelsea leading to unnecessarily dropped points. I also thought that profits were the foundation for success on the pitch but Wenger and Arsenal have proven that perception completely wrong.

  19. Ron

    May 29, 2013, 10:41 #35267

    Mike - Very true and not to mention that the rising costs are passed on the fans, ooops 'customers'. The points that you make are the main reasons ive dropped out of it and rarely bother going to games these days unless its a decent away fixture. Arsenal isnt the Club it was. It died in 2006 for me really and football itself becomes less appealing to me as each uninteresting and uninspiring season passes. Its close to being american style, razzed up, surreal 'sporty/drama' now, which is what it was always going to be as soon as it bared its arse and sacrificed its dignity to world TV.

  20. Carlos

    May 29, 2013, 10:09 #35266

    Reality Bites: You are being rather easy on Kroenke and Gazidis I think. They have been at the helm for a number of years now and should be able to bring the manager to task a little more than they have done. The fact that they haven't, gives rise to the criticisms that they are in it for the money and that trophies are little more than a pleasing aside. The narrative this close season is that this is make or break time for Wenger; he has funds at his disposal that make him competitive in the market,whether he had those funds before is a matter for debate,that he must act to take advantage of managerial uncertainty at other top clubs, and most importantly that he is entering the final year of his contract in a position of relative weakness. However, little is made of the feeling that this is a time for Gazidis to assert himself as a worthy CEO of a top club. Surely if the manager's intransigence / incompetence in the transfer market is compromising the club , as CEO he must act.

  21. Mike

    May 29, 2013, 9:57 #35265

    @nutter - see Rons response which is what I was trying to get at - you say Hazard was worth 35 million??????? What player is worth that - I am talking about inflating prices for players who are slightly above average - one serious injury and he is worthless - the ones I name are the extremes but the are pleanty more where they came from and you have named some of them - Players like Nasri getting over 200 000 a week - its rediculous - Its not about Wenger, the gripe I have is that it is now acceptable to have wages that are longer than an international mobile telephone number for a 21 year old player who has had one good season - there is talk of 60 million being offered for Bale.....but yes sit back and enjoy the rising costs as these players demand more and more for average performances - 60 000k/week these days is nowhere near enough to entice world class player - doesn't matter what club you are

  22. Reality bites

    May 29, 2013, 0:38 #35264

    There are too many red herrings in these responses. The wage bill compared to teams that did not qualify, an astute wengerite would only mention the ECL dividend we gain plus what they lose, and it would probably come close to the difference with Spurs, who over the years have spent more on transfers....and as for Liverpool on wages, no argument. The real fact is that Wenger was given far too much power from the previous board, especially when DD was sacked. You guys have a go at players, it is not their fault, some of them if organised properly are rather good. You blame Ivan and Stan, but they inherited a manager out of control. Wengers deal is soon up, lets hope his wings are being clipped, they need to be. He wanted a youth policy with very few players bought in, it failed , most of the youth were not good enough. He was too slow to respond when we lost our best and there were no kids to replace them. Barcas percieved youth policy did not work. He humiliated good players trying to make them play in ineffective brand of football they did not understand or agree with, until somehow Bould was able to help out earlier this year. Wenger is as Wenger does, DD understood that and was able to harness his strengths and negate his faults. The likes of the last board and our current chairman attempted to do no such thing. Wenger has created a situation whereby his departure will cause a damaging power vacuum, just as he wanted.

  23. Stevieo

    May 28, 2013, 21:09 #35263

    This is my ‘Word of Thanks to Nathan Charterton for his optimistic season review.’ Some eye-opening analysis. But why just use Spurs as the comparative in that they also upped their points tally by 3 too? To the doubters, it makes it sound like we’ve stagnated for the 5th year running. I think you could have beefed up the argument for Wenger by highlighting the fact how we finished a further 30 points above the Geordies this season, as they were heavily tipped to give us a run for our money. I’m surprised you also failed to mention how we managed to reduce the deficit on the champions from 19 points to 16 points. That in itself proves to me we’ve already kicked on, and with an addition or two we will have United in our sights. I prefer this optimistic attitude of sticking my head in the sand. Much better than being realistic and using history as a yardstick.

  24. Ron

    May 28, 2013, 20:35 #35262

    Seven Kings - He seems to have scoring problems too mate looking at his record.

  25. Reality bites

    May 28, 2013, 19:49 #35261

    My God, is this really the sharp end of the Wenger out campaign? Judging by what I have read on here, I fear we are stuck with him for the rest of his days. To remove Wenger, a lot of fans need convincing to change, and this will need intelligent arguments

  26. Seven Kings Gooner

    May 28, 2013, 19:03 #35260

    Ron : You doubts about Jovetic are well founded, I have a good Italian friend who when I told him about our interest in Jovetic, in broken English he said "good player but has muscular problems" Oh how well he will fit in with our other light weights!

  27. Peter Wain

    May 28, 2013, 18:44 #35259

    Given the poor quality of the squad it is a miracle we finished as high as we did. The management of the squad was poor. Four keepers used three making serious errors which cost goals and in some cases points. The fullback situation is dire. Gibbs has no idea of positional play and is frequently stranded up field which exposes the defence. Sagna had a poor season overall and his inability to provide decent crosses is something that should have been addressed. The two centre back acquited themselves quite well but Vermallen had a very poor season. In midfield no decent holding midfield player means no defensive cover. Ramsey's form was indifferent and Cazorla flatters to deceive. He seems to have no idea when to pass. Diaby is a liability and Wiltshire struggled with his form not surprisingly considering his injuries. Up front we lack pace apart from Walcott and the Ox. Gervinho Podolski and Giroud are clearly out of their depth and need to be moved on. So all in all we need 8 or 9 players but I think we all know that we are unlikely to get half of these. Already we are stalling on buying Jovetic mind you with his scoring record and lack of pace are we really sure he is the answer. No other moves seem imminent so like last year we will come back to pre season with none bought and a mad panic will ensue when we discover that we start badly. No doubt Kroenke is happy with this and Gazidis will already be trousering his bonus for the fourth place trophy.

  28. maguiresbridge gooner

    May 28, 2013, 18:11 #35257

    So It's time to kick on yet again, how many times have we heard that over the last eight seasons ? and it never happens and is it going to be any different this time, you can only kick on with the proper players and we know what the chances are of getting them.It never ceases to amaze even though it shouldn't, how many fans get taken in season after season.This season it's new sponsorship money you'd think we never had any in the first place and new found ambition to win things (great work by the spin machine)and it's lapped up, all these players we've been linked with already and it's being lapped up, ogl has suddenly seen the light and is going to change his ways (and it's even been suggested he has to) and build a winning team and it's being lapped up. We have a run of wins against mediocre and relegated opposition where it has enabled him and his team to scrape through in front of the spuds and deliver the bare minimum yet again nothing else, there's nothing tremendous about that.But again fans were taken in,all the hullabaloo, the celebrating, it was made to look like some achievement, that we had won some genuine silverware,and it was lapped up. There will definitely be bonuses paid in the spin department because they played an absolute blinder there.So we're told yet again we're ready to push on, and we're going to, and it's been lapped up.

  29. Ron

    May 28, 2013, 17:12 #35256

    Nutter - All good points, but lets face it, the PL is choc full of average and below average players these days and has been for some years and they are massively over priced.The PL has become an easy touch for moderate performers henec the falling standard. Its the SKY and Media hype only that stops mnay people realising it. Lets also be honest enough to admit that if such as Cazorla was as good as many Gooners make out he is, he would be at Barca or Madrid and wdt have been over looked by them. Mata is far ahead of him as you say, but then hes got better players around him. I reckon if you put Mata in an Arsenal shirt with the lightweight crew, his level wouldnt exceed Cazorla's by very much. The same with Hazard too. A players performance is shaped and influenced by his team mates so much ie put a good keeper behind Wengers defence and id venture you ll see an average keeper before very long. The PL hold up Van Persie as 'World class' He nowhere near, but hes very good on a good day. Look at him in a Dutch shirt Hes ordinary at that level yet in the PL he scores for fun. They (media etc ) dont like it said but that PL isnt so far from being the SPL 2, yet old Celtic are mocked routinely! Your comments on wages at Arsenal make a mockery of Wengers so called economics knowledge. Its laughable as you say and im glad hes not the Chancellor. He makes George Osborne look competent.

  30. Nutter

    May 28, 2013, 16:48 #35255

    LOL Mike. Erm. Mata is about twice the player Cazorla is. You know Mata, the CL, FA Cup, and Europa League winner. Hazard is definitely worth his fee. Giroud? HAHAHAHAHA. He is pathetic. Look at his goal return all you like, and while you're at it look at Gervinho's too. You mention Torres and Carroll as extremes, but fail to mention that Lambert, Benteke, Michu, Ba, Berbatov, Le Fondre ALL cost less than Giroud, and ALL performed better and scored more goals. Tut tut. Also why don't you mention the outstanding value Wenger is getting out of te likes of Diaby (60k a week, over 4 years of crockery), Djourou (useless, wages being subsidised at Hannover), Park (rubbish, £50k a week, wages being paid for him to get relegated at Celta), Denilson (£50k a week, for this clown), Bendtner (£52k a week, for a guy who got zero game time at Juve), Arshavin (£90k a week for taking it easy for the past 16 months. Great VALUE!), Squllaci (£60k a week, came, sat around, got paid). You are right Mike you see, as all that evidence proves it is about VALUE! Thankfully in Wenger, Arsenal are getting incredible value out of that £150m wage bill. I mean paying more in wages than Bayern, Dortmund and Juve is top top value management there! ALMOST as good value as Wenger's £7.5 mil a year in wages for a guy who's won less in the past 8 years than Redknapp, McLeish, McLaren, Martinez, Laudrup and even Juande Ramos. Thank God Arsene doesn't do the 'inflating the wage of average players' eh! (Ramsey, Squillaci, Denilson, Diaby, Arshavin, Fabianski, Djourou, Mannone, fat Santos, Frimpong, Gervinho, Giroud, Chesney etc). Sit down dear boy, learn about the game please. You've embarrassed yourself with your declaration of love for Arsene there!

  31. Mike

    May 28, 2013, 16:27 #35254

    If Cazorla is worth 12 million, Mata is definately not worth 25 million - for that type of money, I'd rather have two Cazorlas please - its about time there was some parity with player evaluations - Torres and Carrol - close to 100 million combined -Giroud has had a better return than those two put together- 35 million for Hazard, give me a break - no player is worth the prices being thrown around - all it does is start inflating the wages and prices for average players

  32. CanadaGooner

    May 28, 2013, 15:29 #35253

    It's the final 2 paragraphs of the article that will most likely irratate most arsenal fans. You only have to looks at managers out there who have lost their jobs even after winning trophies and doing much better than Wenger. We have become a Wenger Cult. Some of our supporters appear to support Wenger and not the football club; very bizzare indeed. It borders heavily on stupidity, if someone has been allowed to sell the same old soppy story-line for 9 years. It has gotten so bad, that every arsenal player must now deem it okay to lose to the Blackburns and Bradfords of the league, knowing all they have to do is win a few games at the end of the season, finish in the top 4 and suddenly, ALL is WELL yet again. Pathetic!

  33. Babatunde

    May 28, 2013, 15:18 #35252

    @Martyn. Yes Martyn. It's all Chelski and Man United's fault. Before they turned up you see, clubs never ever tried to get the best possible prices for their assets eh! Thank Lord for Arsene and his fair valuations, which have in no way helped distort the market. By the by, anyone care to name the muppet who sold Cole to Chelski for £25 mil, Fabregas for £35 million, Nasri for £24 mil (despite having just 1 year left on his deal), sold a 29 year-old RVP for £24 mil, and Adebayor and Toure for a combined £40 mil to Citeh? Which manager started this trend of happily encouraging Chelski and Citeh to pay silly prices? Because whoever that manager is, he is just as responsible for distorting the pricing in the transfer market as anyone else. Let me know when you've figured out who the money-obsessed joker who sold all those players was btw...Oh and PS: Villa got Benteke for £7 mil, Swansea Michu for £2mil, Man U got Kagawa for £12 mil, Citeh who you deride, got Kompany for just £6 mil, Chelski got Mata for £20 mil (he is now worth double that), Dortmund bought Lewandoswki for under £4 mil. Meanwhile, Wenger bought Giroud for £12 mil and Gervinho for another £12 mil. But you see, it's all Chelski and Citeh's fault. Hah. You sound like a pathetic Harry Redknapp with all them excuses. 'Honest not my fault guv, blame other clubs' pfffft

  34. Green Hut

    May 28, 2013, 15:18 #35251

    Martyn- Platini admitted to Martin Samuel last week that FFP was never designed to create a level financial playing field at the top end of the game, merely to stop clubs going bankrupt. No surprise then that we've still not heard UEFA's verdict on PSG's new £125m a year 'sponsorship' deal with their owners. Any manager pinning his hopes on FFP to be his salvation is living in a fantasy world. Or Totteridge.

  35. Gare

    May 28, 2013, 15:14 #35250

    We’ve been here before haven’t we? Since 2006/07, we have had a tendency to either go on an impressive winning streak or long unbeaten run (half of that run tend to be draws) and lulls some fans into thinking that all is well at The Arsenal and the strong foundations have been laid for the following season to be successful. Didn’t many fans say such a thing a year ago? If anything, the run would convince Wenger & his apologists he has a squad of ‘top top quality’ and it just needs tweaking when in truth, it’s in need of one heck of an overhaul. I can see players coming in this summer to maintain another top four finish but I don’t think they would improve the squad. After all, weren’t Giroud, Podolski & Cazorla meant to improve the squad and making light of the sale of a certain Dutchman? Those three plus Monreal are all individually good players but they haven’t improved us. Failure to beat one of the Manchester clubs and Chelsea in 2012/13 when clubs with far lesser resources than us did to me is no sign that they are on the cusp of greatness or that we have drastically improved from the previous season. And with many young players having had another season’s experience under their belts, Wenger wouldn’t want to bring in experienced players in their positions in the fear it might ‘kill them’. As for Stevan Jovetic, who we have been strongly linked with and the likes of John Cross are so desperate for us to sign, I’ve seen his record and it’s comparable if not worse than Chamakh pre-Arsenal. In Serie A alone, from 2008-the present day he has scored 37 goals from 116 games. Granted, he hasn’t always played as a central striker though (Walcott anyone?). At least Giroud was the top scorer in his homeland pre-Arsenal. Jovetic is no better and he hardly covered himself in glory when England drew at Montenegro in March but hey maybe that was an off night for him in general. By all accounts, he’s aiming for Juventus as they are the champions and arguably the biggest name in Italian football.

  36. Babatunde

    May 28, 2013, 14:58 #35249

    Hopefully, just a few minor tweaks here and there and Arsene will be able to compete with Wigan, Swansea and Birmingham City and win a trophy of some kind. It WILL be different this year! Now that Wigan's financial doping has been kicked out the division and with reports that the Middle East is running out of oil, and with news Russia is on the brink of the 2nd Cold War, and with Ferguson gone at ManU; the league is ours for the taking. Let's just hope Bradford and Blackburn don't stand in our way in the domestic cups and we can do a domestic treble next year! I truly believe that within 4-5 years, every other club in England will go out of existence and only Arsene's morally virtuous club will be left standing. And with nobody in our way to stop us, we will definitely get 4th place!

  37. Bard

    May 28, 2013, 14:56 #35248

    Good post Red Member; completely agree. Its ludicrous to take the Bayern match out of context. What it did show is how good we are when we're out of it. When we really need to play , top 6, Bradford, Blackburn we bottle it.

  38. Martyn

    May 28, 2013, 14:39 #35247

    So long as the likes of Chelsea and Man City exist with their mega-bucks clubs will demand the optimum price for players like Jovetic, making it almost impossible for Arsenal compete on an even financial playing field. I understand Fioriontina want £25 million for Jovetic with Arsenal refusing to pay above £20 million. Personally from what I have seen he's not worth anywhere near that sort of money.

  39. Red Member

    May 28, 2013, 14:27 #35246

    sadly the club has done its usual PR spin and supporters are believing that the 26 points from the last 10 games means we will be challenging next season. What is not mentioned is that in those 10 games we did not beat any team in the top 7 of the PL. Then there is the win over Bayern Munich which is being seen as turning the season around. Again what is not mentioned is that Bayern Munich already led 3-1 from the 1st leg and so just ambled around for most of the match not in any real danger. I agree that it was the turning point of the season though - after this defeat we could concentrate only on the top 4 of the PL. An Arsenal speciality. Spurs had no chance.

  40. Ron

    May 28, 2013, 13:49 #35245

    MC Cut and P - Good points, but im unsure the guy Jovetic is worth 25 Million quid. Looks like another Wenger preferred lightweight to me who may well suffer in the PL, hence his real objective is to shift to Juve. Hes using Wenger i reckon to twist Juve s arm. Dont know his stats but is he a prolific scorer? I'm not sure he is. We dont need another fairyfoot.

  41. Ron

    May 28, 2013, 13:00 #35244

    Deluded - Also bang on the nail. Well said!

  42. Der Projekt ist Kaput

    May 28, 2013, 12:42 #35243

    Bard and Deluded - well said, sirs. Arsenal: an average team that desperately needs at least 5 DECENT players and a manager more concerned about the club than his own perennially failing agendas.

  43. MC Cut and Paste

    May 28, 2013, 12:17 #35242

    Was this nonsense regurgitated from 2006? or 2007? 2008? Or 2009? 2010? 2011? 2012? Take your pick! Already we see 'with the new Puma sponsorship money, Arsene wil make waves'. Seems Arsene has learnt a lot from the Juan Mata shambles of him refusing to pay the £20 mil Valencia asked. We are ow hearing he will not pay the £25 mil Fiorentina want. So for £5 mil he is stalling. Howmuch is Mata worth now btw? About £35 mil at least. Arsene Knows! It's a joke now. What excuse will the AKBs have? All the money is there, everyone knows the cash is there (has been for years). Why is Wenger haggling over £5 mil? It isn't cos he has no real intention of signing the player, and only wants to appear to be pretending to sign quality is it? Still. At least he has found the time to sign 2 Frenchie clowns no one cares about in Sanogo and Grenier. Yep, Arsene will defo change eh...and as for Gazidis boasts about how we will be 'serious' in the market all I can say is LOL! Don't forget to renew btw!

  44. Carlos

    May 28, 2013, 11:41 #35241

    I hope you've saved this post, because you'll be able to dust it off for May 2014; perhaps a bit of cut and paste with the names of a few French nobodies.

  45. Ron

    May 28, 2013, 11:03 #35240

    Bard - Smack on matey! Enough said.

  46. John Gooner

    May 28, 2013, 10:51 #35239

    We're an average team scrapping for 1-0 victories with the likes of QPR, that is the reality of what we have become. Anytime we come up against a decent side, we cross out fingers and hope that we don't get beaten too badly. Where is the pride in that? We should be capable of so much more than that. The one thing we lack is quality; in the days of David Dein that was never an issue. If DD was still at the club, I don't think it's a stretch to say we might still have Fabregas, Van Persie, Nasri; I think we might have closed the signings of Mata, Vertonghen and a host of others we have missed in recent times. This club needs a shake up, now!

  47. Deluded

    May 28, 2013, 10:36 #35238

    Oh dear. Honest to God I am getting sick of delusional Arsenal fans and I am a Gooner. 3/4 years ago, we signed Arshavin and weent on an incredible 'unbeaten run' - in whcih we finished 4th. FFS. People said 'oh this shows the team is ready/hungry' etc. Last season, Arsenal were humiliated 8-2 at OT, their biggest league defeat in over 125 years. They then sufered their worst ever European thrashing in Milan. To an average Milan side. But hey, end of season unbeaten run again, against rubbish teams and it was 'oh Arsene has found a new formula'. So back to this season, and the football is worse than ever. There is no 'new found resilience' FFS. Arsenal's defending is just as pathetic as it has always been. Scraping past the worst ever team in QPR is not 'resilient' it is lacking in quality. Needing dodgy pens to beat Norwich at home is not 'resilient'. The minute we took the lead Norwich went up the other end and missed a sitter. Playing Bayern at home and leaving yourself wide open is not 'resilient' it is shocking. Barely scraping it past Newcastle is not resilient, it is a poor performance lacking in quality. The 'unbeaten run' has come against shocking teams in the bottom 10. And even then, Arsenal have let them create plenty. Wigan could have scored 4 at the Emirates! But as usual, the deluded joke that Arsenal fans have now become, means that it will be goldfish brain time. So, as with EVERY YEAR FOR THE PAST 8, they will pretend 'it will be different' this summer. You're all so deluded that it is soon going to come up to 10 years of you lot claiming 'it will be different for Arsene this time'. It's just ridiculous and pathetic. The team is rubbish. The wage bill is £150 mil. That is bigger than Bayern, much bigger than Juve, twice Dortmunds, much bigger than Spuds and only £12 mil less than Man United. Yet Arsenal are nowhere NEAR the level of any of those named teams - and Wenger's rabble barely scrape it past Spuds. It's taken a last day of the season escapade THREE times now to see off a Spud team that spends £50 mil a year less in wages. That is pathetic management in any intelligent human being's mind. In AKB land? 'It will be different next time'. 8years and counting. It is definitely a Cult now. No question.

  48. GG89

    May 28, 2013, 9:55 #35237

    I agree. And would add that the team is well balanced considering that each player is not really a bigger star than its constituent parts. I like it and perhaps AW has proved many of his knockers wrong. I only see a problem next season, as regards to a title challenge, with the poor results against the other top teams... I put that down to AW dithering with the players and not winding them up for those games... a lack of beief... but I guess you cant buy that and AW cant create it anymore?... just maybe a ball breaker in front of the back four commanding respect and kicking arse could just possibly be the answer... I dont think Arteta does it enough and is out of position...

  49. Bard

    May 28, 2013, 9:22 #35236

    Another one of those ' tinkering round the edges'analytic posts. Little tweak here and a little shift there and bobs your uncle we're challenging again. In your dreams. We need at minimum of 5 major signings+ paying competitive wages to even stay where we are. There's not a cat in hells of Wenger spending big this Summer. He's the equivalent of a car boot buyer, hoping for a bargain. Even the much fabled Arsenal academy is now defunct.