Gooner Survey Results – Part 1

Who you chose as your Player of the Season, Goal of the Season and Best Performance, amongst other categories.



Gooner Survey Results – Part 1

Santi Cazorla - Gooner Player of the Season


As I mentioned when we launched this years survey on the site last month, we believe it’s the most comprehensive insight into the thoughts of Arsenal supporters worldwide and having received over 2800 responses from 66* different countries to the 67 questions, we stand by that claim. Thank you to everyone who took the time to complete the survey and we hope the results make interesting reading over the next few weeks.

In this section, we are going to focus on the questions we posed about 2012-13 season and as always we’ll start with the blue riband category of Player of the Season. Our first winner back in 1989 was Alan Smith who had top scored in our title-winning season. He was followed in 1990 by Mr Arsenal himself, Tony Adams, who went on to win it on two further occasions (1993 and 1994) and since then, such legends as Dennis Bergkamp (1997 and 1998), Robert Pires (2002) and five-time winner Thierry Henry (2000, 2003, 2004, 2005 and 2006) have added their name to the roll of honour.

So, The Gooner Player of the Season for 2013 is… drum roll… Santi Cazorla who was a clear winner and received over 63% of the first choice vote as well as almost 26% of the second choice. There were even three people who got a bit carried away and voted for him as first and second!

When the diminutive Spaniard arrived last year I don’t know how much Arsenal fans really knew about him. Maybe, like me, you were vaguely aware of the name, but as he’d never really stood out for Spain (perhaps not surprisingly) and had not attracted the interest of Barcelona and Real Madrid, you’d concluded he wasn’t going to be as brilliant as he’s turned out to be. However, from the first game, I think we all knew we had a little gem on our hands as it was clear his technique and close control was outstanding, but unlike, say, Hleb, there was plenty of end product as well. There were occasions when his form slipped a notch, but overall he’s a thoroughly deserving winner of our Player of the Season.

In second place was Laurent Koscielny, whose strong finish to the season culminated in that critical goal and display at Newcastle on the last day which I’m sure earned him a few extra votes. He ended up with 22% of the first choice votes and 39% of the second choice, whilst Theo took third spot with 5% and 19% respectively.

Our next category was Most Disappointing Player and whilst there were plenty of names put forward including Gervinho, Squillaci and Chamakh, my view is that if you were disappointed by any of these, you hadn’t been watching them the previous season because I don’t think expectations were high that they were going to suddenly get better. Of course, for the money they earn, we probably have a right to expect better and that’s the disappointing factor, but maybe that should be laid at the door of the person who determines their wages?

Sadly, it was our captain who topped this category as 85% of voters put Thomas Vermaelen in their top (bottom?) two, followed by his fellow defender Bacary Sagna (58%) and our first choice goalkeeper Szczesny (19%). Given the fate of our captains in recent summers, there will be far fewer tears shed if Thomas is shipped off to another country, but recent rumours linking him with a switch to Manchester United are hopefully only that because surely we wouldn’t contemplate selling a player to them again so soon after helping them to the title last season?

Sagna and Szczesny both bounced back from set-backs to enjoy better finishes to the season and whilst there have been suggestions for a while that Bacary, who at the time of writing has only one year left on his contract, would be the subject of a bid from PSG or Monaco to tempt him back to France, his departure would severely weaken our defensive options – remember his outstanding display at centre-back away at Sunderland – and for that reason alone, I think most Gooners will be hoping he is still an Arsenal player come 1st September.

Moving on to the title of Most Improved Played which goes to Aaron Ramsey with 46% of the vote. Aaron has had more than his fair share of criticism during his Arsenal career, some of which at the start of the season was unbelievably harsh and disgraced us as a group of fans, especially as he was often being asked to play in a position which clearly didn’t suit him. It can’t have been an easy period for him, but he never complained and, on the field he never hid. In an area of the pitch where we have regularly bemoaned players who don’t track back, his industry could never be faulted and he would regularly find himself in good positions even if his finishing was often wayward. This attitude was rewarded with some much improved performances towards the end of the season when, due to Jack’s fragility, he was given a run of games in centre midfield alongside Arteta and capped it with a well taken goal against Wigan in the final home game.

The runner-up in this category was Laurent Koscielny (30%) and he also excelled towards the end of the season alongside Per Mertesacker. I think there were quite a lot of fans who thought Koscielny did not have the ability or physique to be a top-level centre-back, but his performances last season have surely dispelled those doubts. Theo finished third (13%) and whilst he continues to frustrate, his goals and assists record cannot be ignored and compare favourably with almost anyone else in the division.

Almost half (44%) of voters decided that the Best Team Performance was the one where we beat the newly crowned European Champions in their own back-yard. Does beating Bayern Munich away make us the best team in Europe? Errr… no, but it did give us a boost after a couple of difficult weeks and we went undefeated in the league from that point onwards. Perhaps it was the best result of the season in terms of who we were playing, but as many commenters on this site have subsequently pointed out, you have to take it in context with the first leg result and the overall outcome was that we lost.

A victory over Spurs is always one to savour and even more so when it’s a second consecutive 5-2 home win in which a player we love to hate gets himself a well-deserved red card after only 15 minutes. It’s therefore really no surprise that this was the match which finished second in the poll with 24% followed by the early season win at Anfield with 17%, which actually was the one which got my vote.

It’s a slightly depressing fact that the category of Worst Team Performance was one of the most hotly contested in this seasons survey. There were votes for 14 different games which tells it’s own story, but in the end it was our two cup exits to lower league opposition which competed for the dubious honour with Blackburn at home just edging out Bradford away by a handful of votes. I don’t think anyone who witnessed those games, either in the flesh or on television, could quite believe how poorly we played. You could argue that the opposition worked hard to contain us, and they deserve some credit them for that, but it shouldn’t have been enough considering the gulf in quality between the two sets of players. Whether or not the managers stated prioritisation of league position over domestic cup glory played a part is debateable, especially when he did field a full strength team at Bradford, but there is no escaping the fact that these two games were low points in the season.

As I mentioned in the piece which launched the survey last month, in order to make things easier for voters I watched every goal we’d scored this season and drew up a shortlist of 12 for the Goal of the Season category. I have to say that I don’t feel it was a vintage season for goals. We’ve been spoilt over the years with numerous masterpieces by Bergkamp, Henry and even… ssshhhh… Van Persie, but this year I felt the pickings were slim and it was quickly apparent which three goals would fill the podium places.

Top of the heap was Lukas Podolski versus Montpellier in November which was voted the best goal by just over 27% of you with a further 20% placing it second or third. A volley which brings together technique and power is a combination which is a guaranteed vote winner and this demonstrated what our German international striker is capable of, even when he is being asked to play in a wider position than he may prefer.

The part Olivier Giroud played in the build-up should not be under-estimated either as the weight of the flicked chip made Podolski’s job that little bit easier and it was something which the Frenchman repeated for Gibbs goal at Swansea in the FA Cup third round, a strike which ultimately finished fourth in our poll.

In second place with a very similar overall percentage to the winner, but far fewer first choice votes was Theo Walcott’s hat-trick goal in the 7-3 thrashing of Newcastle just after Christmas which owed much to his ability to get to his feet quickly after being fouled – something which we had seen previously in the 5-3 win at Stamford Bridge in 2011-12. Third place went to Santi Cazorla (who had four goals short-listed for the award) for his long range strike at Upton Park.

After the derby defeat in early March, there were plenty of people (including some Gooners it has to be said) queuing up to proclaim a shift of power in North London, but as we now know, our noisy neighbours failed to deliver yet again as we went ten games unbeaten to subject them to another year in the Europa League.

Fans of other (usually less successful) clubs queued up to mock us for celebrating finishing fourth at the end of the season (even though it was more to do with beating Spurs in my opinion), but it did raise the question as to whether fans now regarded Champions League qualification as being a more important achievement than winning one of the domestic knock-out competitions. The question was perhaps a bit too black and white for some people’s liking as I know fans who would have put an FA Cup win above a top four finish, but probably not a League Cup triumph. Last year 73% of you put Champions League qualification ahead of domestic cup success, but this year that figure was down to 59% which is perhaps a reflection of how shameful our cup exits were and how frustrating it felt to see teams like Swansea and Wigan lifting trophies at Wembley.

What I don’t think is in doubt is that we are all agreed that a top four finish should not be regarded as the limit of Arsenal’s ambitions, so we asked how optimistic you were at the point you completed the survey about our prospects of competing for the title in 2013-14, recognising that the summer transfer dealings will play a large part in how we actually fare.


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  1. Rocky RIP

    Jun 22, 2013, 22:43 #36004

    @maguiresbridge - I'm not sure if it's still running, but have you tried the 'We are the herd' forum? It's a forum where people from Arsenal compare tales of their terrace escapades, and a few other clubs join in. It's intended to be honest accounts, not the usual, 'there were 10 of us, 200 of them, it came on top, but we held our own' playground drivel. People are prepared to admit being overrun. Glorifying people who made a name by hitting people is idiotic. Which is why people bringing out books and become celebrity hooligans is a bit laughable. There was a story that Tottenham's top boy brought out a book, did a launch, with a book signing and everything. Sure enough a couple of ours turned up and turned the desk over and gave him a thorough hiding in front of a queue his 'admirers'. Could be utter rubbish, in which case apologies. Anyway, I do enjoy hearing some first hand tales if they are honest and not the usual mindless nonsense, in the same way there's a strange kind of fascination in hearing first hand accounts from people in notorious criminal circles. All from a safe, mildly cowardly and slightly middle class distance. What has struck me is that the few people I've met that ever got involved were actually really nice, decent, good-humoured people when they weren't throwing punches! Mild-mannered gentlemen. Bizarre.

  2. Ron

    Jun 21, 2013, 14:30 #35976

    There werent many choices to be honest. Some of the votes are worrying but we all have our agendas and criteria for choosing. For me, The 5-2 v Spuds was great just for the size of the score, but not the game. In truth, i reckon that was a win fueled only by Adebayors red card. The score was a bit false. Best goal - Yes, Walcotts last v the Toon, though as you say the goals were pretty poor. Girouds at brighton wasnt bad though. I like Giroud. Could be a really good support to a real hit man, provided its the right man with him. Koschielny? - Btter than season before, still not good enough for me. Hes still weak and doesnt command his own area. Worst player? - Take your pick. they all had spells of anonymity, but ill so for Scezney, though ill admit bias as i reckon hes hopeless and wont improve any. Best team performance - Tottenham away. Lost to a team worse than us on the day in the main, but got their heads together afterwards at least and decided trying to play like a team might help!I wonder who told them that little nugget, Don Howe? GG? Optimism? - Little. They need at least 3 quality signings then i might re consider Worst team showing? - Munich at home. Totally bottled it and played like scared rabbits. Totally overawed. Losing a two leg tie effectively in one game, at home, is shameful. Most improved player - Mertersacker. Hes never a title winning CB but at least we see some heart with him. Makes the best of limited talents and however inadequate thats hard to condemn. Most dissapointing player - Chamackh. He never played but having to see his frame and his hang dog face and that hair in the press from time to time was still nauseating.

  3. maguiresbridge gooner

    Jun 21, 2013, 12:45 #35970

    Green Hut, yes i'm sure there would have been offerings long before now,and i'm sure for a lot of people it's not worth dragging up the past,but i'd say if we found ourselves in the right company there would be plenty of stories told.

  4. Green Hut

    Jun 21, 2013, 12:18 #35969

    maguiresbridge gooner- Re your last post on the 'How to survive a transfer window' thread which has now been closed, I'm sure a book would have come out a long time ago had the biggest Arsenal name of the 80's not been working in a high-profile industry, it's not worth risking everything for fleeting notoriety. It could still happen, from what I saw there's enough material for a whole series of books, but from the little I know I believe there's still a lot of opposition to it, and with publishers wanting everything spiced up to the enth degree, so many authors of the 'we've never been done, 30 of us ran 300 of them' type books just end up looking like silly fantasists.

  5. HowardL

    Jun 20, 2013, 21:43 #35963

    Well, I think it's a brilliant analysis Mike; well done. That Kos goal at Newcastle, pretty run-of-the-mill I guess, will be an abiding memory. And I'm relatively optimistic for next season too, given the managerial roundabout at other top clubs. As for the Bayern away game, which surprisingly has divided opinions, Arsenal were outstanding and only a Gervinho toe-poke (and for a change not a misplaced one) from what would have been a history-changing win. Lighten up everyone; we've known much worse than what we've seen in the last 8 years - before which we had the times of our lives - the club is on a sound financial footing with a fantastic stadium (and yes I adored Highbury too) and it's about time that reading the Gooner was once again a reason for optimism rather than constant moaning and carping. And, after all, there's always next season!

  6. BADARSE

    Jun 20, 2013, 14:48 #35952

    OK,what's going on here?It's like a love-in(ah,I remember those days so well).We have STRB and Chris, reaching an understanding,and Gaz and I becoming best buddies!To you Gaz,thanks,a nice touch,and we are not so far apart;and me?I am still in the game!SGRB,you are as keen as a knife,and clearly know your stuff,good on you.Chris,you too,and as I said before am closer to your camp than SGRB's at the moment.Dispensing with the smarm,the posts are far more interesting,because of the situation,as is now.SGRB,you are too powerfully sharp to be an adversary.I want you in my team!Seriously guys,stay with who you are,but at least maintain the respect and dignity expected of Arsenal people.I think we are possibly moving into a critical stage in Arsene's tenure,but I do think the next week or so may see some movement in the market,which may please us all.Wishful thinking?Oh,absolutely!Most of my time supporting these redmen has been sprinkled with hope,so deep breath,and dive in again!

  7. Gaz

    Jun 20, 2013, 12:58 #35948

    @BADARSE: Sorry to hear about your problems pal and hope they've sorted themselves out now. Tbh I think we all go through things that make you realise there are much more important things in life than this daft old game! Just to add some 'meat on the bones' to me as a fan though I was once one of Wengers biggest fans and defended him staunchly whenever I could. For me though-and this is the crux of where I am as a fan-I've never thought a lack of money has been the main problem. In my humble opinion its HOW he's spent that money and HOW he's managed the players he has thats caused this demise (as I see it). And whilst I've no problem with those who see fourth as a major achievment for me I'm totally and utterly bored with what I see a whole load of excuses being invented to defend Wenger every single season. Whilst we're into giving away secrets though I'll let you in on one of mine. Despite how I feel I'm only a Higuain and a Fellani away from backing Wenger again. Why? Because like every single football fan out there I'm a fickle bastard at heart and even now I want Wenger to get it right. Doubt he will of course but I cant replace 5/6 years of negativity overnight!!! Take care mate...

  8. Chris

    Jun 20, 2013, 12:42 #35947

    Fair enough, I can see the language was argumentative. I suspect there aren't that many who will continually goal-post shift to preserve their support of Wenger though... Re my previous last sentence - just to clarify - what I actually said a year ago was that if large unspent funds existed that Wenger was refusing to spend just to maintain a zero net-spend, he should go immediately. Now, though, I think it's obvious he needs to spend come what may. No more holding back for whatever reason!

  9. Stroud Green Road Boy

    Jun 20, 2013, 12:01 #35946

    Chris, making out there isn't anyone out there who supports Arsene over Arsenal, and stating those that point this out are talking 'nonsense' is setting yourself in opposition to those folk and therefore is polarising. Leaving all that aside, yes, as of now I do believe our stated positions aren't too far away. It will be interesting to see what happens this summer.

  10. Chris

    Jun 20, 2013, 11:38 #35944

    Stroud Green Road Boy - How am I trying to polarise the debate by pointing out that in fact we're all perhaps more similar in our views than many would have it, and that the potential exists for unnecessary conflict? Not exactly inflammatory... If we don't perform in the transfer market this summer, to me it will indicate that Wenger isn't the man to maximise the benefit to be had from the money now available, and as you point out that is something I've said before (in fact as early as last year, when arguing that if large unspent funds really existed, he should go). immediately).

  11. Stroud Green Road Boy

    Jun 20, 2013, 11:19 #35943

    Chris, plenty will give Wenger endless chances and the goalposts are shifted endlessly. Not all current defenders of his do this, but plenty. I know you've stated you have a threshold and expect proper signings so I'll look forward to what you have to say at the end of this summer rather than engaging further with your particular attempt to polarise the debate.

  12. maguiresbridge gooner

    Jun 20, 2013, 11:15 #35942

    jw, yes we lost the tie glad you remembered that at least,only at arsenal can we celebrate failure.Goodness knows what it'll be like if we actually win something.Maybe people like Mike and others would get/have got more excited from a phenomenal performance if we'd actually won or gone through. As for lets see our summer activity before getting pessimistic SGRB sums that up perfectly.

  13. Chris

    Jun 20, 2013, 11:04 #35940

    Stroud Green Road Boy - no ones giving Wenger endless chances and we've all got our won threshold / cut-off. Just because yours has come before some other peoples, that doesn't make them cult of Wenger members who will perpetually shift the goal posts to avoid having to harshly judge Wenger. From what I can see, folk who come out with that sort of nonsense are just trying to polarise the debate to deliberately create conflict, where none needs to exist.

  14. Stroud Green Road Boy

    Jun 20, 2013, 10:37 #35939

    jw, yes it was a decent performance, and yes drawing 3-3 with Bayern is not so bad. The point is a game at the end of which we went out of the CL has been chosen as the highlight of our entire season. What does that tell you about that season. What does that tell you how about far we've fallen as a club. And as for 'let's see our summer activity' - yep, then on 1st Sept 'let's see how the squad does', then 'let's see what Wenger does in January' then 'let's see our summer activity' again. If only a majority of fans would stop giving Wenger endless chances, perhaps there could be some change, some hope, some optimism.

  15. BADARSE

    Jun 20, 2013, 10:09 #35938

    Gaz,thanks for a very sensible response Gooner,I would love to be able to change your perspective buddy.I'm going to give something away here,free of charge to you pal.I've always searched for the positives in life,that's why I love life so much,I guess.In Jan 2011 I had a little medical problem.It rocked me and my family.One thing I was aware of was that I might not see the season's end.It sharpens your senses fella,and though I didn't need my perspective altering,I'm sure it would help most.Stay with your own point of view,just ease up a bit on yourself.

  16. jw

    Jun 20, 2013, 7:59 #35934

    Stroud Green Road Boy - OK, yes we lost the tie, but on the more basic level the score was actually a tie as it was THREE ALL! Therefore not so bad. Don't get why some people (including Mike) want to down play what was actually a phenominal performance in that 2nd leg. Yes we were 3-1 down already, but do you really think a team that has only lost one game in 2013 (that game against us!) would not try? Of course not, we just got our game plan spot on (apart from not being able to score a 3rd goal). Why don't you just enjoy that performance for what it was and for the pride it did restore? Were Bayern time wasting against Barca? No they weren't. In fact, were Bayern not 4-0 up from the 1st leg? Yes. So surely then Barca most have won the 2nd leg? No. Bayern won that 3-0. See not such a bad performance from us! Yes we had many low points this season, but we did finish strong. Lets see our summer activity before we get all pessimistic.

  17. CanadaGooner

    Jun 20, 2013, 4:56 #35933

    @ Lee Bedford; and the sad thing is, that result is now history, until it repeats itself (as it already has, 8 or so times in the last 8 years; then we'll have a mini-outcry for a week or two, finish 4th and suddenly all is well again, and Wenger carries on regardless). I think it is Einstein that said something like "stupidity is doing the same thing and expecting a different outcome"?

  18. Lee Bedford

    Jun 20, 2013, 0:21 #35931

    CanadaGooner, i couldn't agree with you more on that dismal display up there! I took a half day off work, drove all the way up there on a freezing cold December Tuesday night to witness that pathetic surrender! Truly embarrassing mate

  19. Gaz

    Jun 19, 2013, 23:37 #35929

    @BADARSE: Sorry pal, cherry picked your post because you seem to be behind the majority of them on here at the moment! You're right-I am a bitter man as far as Wengers concerned....really wish I wasn't....

  20. BADARSE

    Jun 19, 2013, 19:27 #35920

    Gaz,who wronged you in a former life?Man,you seem so bitter.Yes Bayern was a seminal moment,if you have trouble with the description,then you have an argument with the Oxford dictionary.If you want to try to silence me with sneers,no chance!If you are bitter because of the teams performances/manager/board/owner/badge design,or price of food inside the stadium,that's cool,but hardly worth a dig just because you are tied up in a knot.Just to redap,to me it was a seminal moment,personally I don't give a hoot what it was to you.Milan the season before,seminal?Possibly,and do you know it's possible to have a seminal moment every season.Whether you like it or not is academic.

  21. Stroud Green Road Boy

    Jun 19, 2013, 18:37 #35918

    Arsenal never 'beat' Bayern Munich. The tie was played over 180 minutes. We 'won' the second half but lost the tie. We were out of the tie after 20 minutes of the 180 and in it again with 5 minutes to go. That match sums up the culture of acceptable failure at AFC. It was in many ways the perfect result for Wenger and this set of players -receiving the plaudits but the pressure off of being in the actual competition, thus able to concentrate on finishing in the top 4. This is the kind of 'belief' they like to have. My choice for match of the season was the early season win over Liverpool. The team looked good and there was real hope that early in the season. By the 5-2 v Spurs we knew it was another false dawn.

  22. Gaz

    Jun 19, 2013, 17:08 #35916

    @BADARSE: You mean just like the AC Milan home game the year before was a seminal moment? Hopefully next years winner will be a game that really means something rather than just yet another seminal moment...

  23. BADARSE

    Jun 19, 2013, 14:44 #35913

    Yeah,Rocky RIP.This is difficult to translate,but Giroud strikes me as an honest player.He doesn't hide.In this he reminds me of Ray Kennedy.His qualities are evident and will improve,I feel certain of that,though whether that will be enough for the doubting Thomas' I'm not sure,if he hid a bit more perhaps he wouldn't attract so much flak.He is in an unenviable position though,without a strike partner he ploughs a lonely furrow on occasions.If we had a bit more fizz about us,like Freddie used to bring to the side,we might profit more.Another with a big season in front of him.

  24. Rocky RIP

    Jun 19, 2013, 13:49 #35910

    @BADARSE - I agree about Giroud. I feel there's much better to come from him. His hold up and link-up play is excellent; his first touch is very good; he seems to have good awareness of those around him; he's strong; good in the air, etc. That isn't to say I think he's enough on his own, because he plainly isn't. We need re-inforcements and I'm praying along with everyone else that we spend on 'the real deal' striker we clearly need. Giroud should be able to sharpen up his game, and playing with/occasionally instead of another striker, he could be a very important player for us next season.

  25. GOODARSE

    Jun 19, 2013, 13:40 #35908

    Blah,blah,blah,blah,blah,blah,blah,blah,blah......Zzzzzzzz.

  26. maguiresbridge gooner

    Jun 19, 2013, 13:15 #35907

    A bit of topic here but with the fixture list just being released, and because there was so much made of it last season it made me wonder who will be the first to predict/tell us we'll definitely finish above the spuds again this season ?

  27. BADARSE

    Jun 19, 2013, 12:57 #35906

    Der Projekt ist Kaput,what I do,you wouldn't want to do.Shall put in a word for you though,Gooner.Arsene can be very obliging,haha,(I wish).

  28. Der Projekt ist Kaput

    Jun 19, 2013, 11:59 #35900

    Badarse: what do you do for a living and are there any vacancies?

  29. BADARSE

    Jun 19, 2013, 11:52 #35899

    MoFaya.I am a bit confused.What happens when an established player bombs?You just cut your losses?So Arshavin arrives,fat,long contract,then stops doing it.No one wants at his market price,we hang on hoping,his shares fall further.This buying,selling,developing,is a stockmarket game.When do you cut and run?When do you buy more stock?Afterwards it's easy to remark with hindsight,but we don't possess such an ability.Chamakh came on a free,he was doing it,then it all went wrong,then we couldn't give him away.That is part of the difficulties of football management.Develop more Wilshere's?Oh well that's a good pointer,er excuse me,we just want future captains of England to develop.It doesn't work that way.Nor did we know in advance,that Diaby or Rosicky were going to be injury-prone.True the judgement to keep,or release,is open to discussion,but not the principle.Two more Jack's this way please,oh,and can I have a neglected,dimming,superstar,that I can relight the touchpaper of,and see him fly to the stars?Oh,I wish.

  30. MoFaya

    Jun 19, 2013, 10:20 #35898

    That global profile of Arsenal support is a strong indicator of the potential mass appeal Arsenal have. they are no.1 in Nigeria. they should only be competing with Barcelona for global popularity. Its time to convert this popularity into profitability and success on the pitch. It all starts with bringing in more Carzolas and grooming more Wilsheres and less expensive deadwood like Shamack, Bendtner, Schillachi, Diaby, Denilson etc. The problem with youth development is that it is more hopefull than bringing in an established talent. If a youngster flops he always get more opportunities with the false hope that he is a late bloomer. If an established player flops there is pressure to cut costs and replace him with another established player. There is NO ROOM FOR HOPE!!!

  31. BADARSE

    Jun 19, 2013, 8:48 #35897

    OK John Gooner don't be too worried about the Bayern victory being voted the best,and Gaz,it does not sum up where we are as a club nowadays.It was a seminal moment in the season.Yes we lost the tie,and yes they perhaps approached it in an overly confident manner.However the first goal was scored early and that shook them,unquestionably.When you begin a game in second gear it is often difficult to ramp up the level,haven't we seen that often enough in recent years?I personally do not get over excited by the statistic of winning the game,though it was a victory,and they were beaten.I look at the wider issues.We found pride that night,and a sense of belief.We rolled our sleeves up,put in a good shift, and our season improved.That in my opinion validates it's vote,and position.John Gooner,the Liverpool victory was the winner,but for the reasons I have outlined.Gaz,if the Bayern game sums up our fans,I think the club is in good hands.

  32. BADARSE

    Jun 19, 2013, 8:34 #35896

    Rocky RIP,you are right to emphasise Giroud's two set-ups for those goals.He is slated on these posts,when in fact he is a better than good striker.He may stay at this level,drop away,or he just might push on.That last sentence is obvious,but only to those players yet in flux.This season could be a big one for him,as well as us.

  33. Rocky RIP

    Jun 18, 2013, 23:14 #35894

    I'm glad Giroud's two outstanding flicks to set up Podolski and Gibbs got a mention. The flick to Podolski was better than the actual shot, in my opinion. He may have his faults, but credit where it's due.

  34. Gaz

    Jun 18, 2013, 23:06 #35893

    Agree with Reggie that voting Bayern away as the game of the season sums up perfectly where we are as a Club nowadays.

  35. lee afc

    Jun 18, 2013, 22:34 #35892

    John gooner.....we scared the **** out of them away to Bayern..as performances goes...of course it is our best of the season. Name me another performance? ......take the highs with the lows mate..far too many on here can only put the inferior into perspective....

  36. John Gooner

    Jun 18, 2013, 22:03 #35891

    Liverpool away was definitely the best performance and Cazorla's goal at West ham definitely the best goal. I guess the people have spoken! It just worries me that people think that the win away at a lazy version of Bayern Munich (in which we still lost) was the best performance.

  37. Wenger Must Go

    Jun 18, 2013, 21:54 #35890

    @Betty I hardly think that 30 years old counts as being old! I think Wenger was 'the daddy', since June 2006 he's been more 'the 5th cousin, twice removed'!

  38. Reggie

    Jun 18, 2013, 21:22 #35889

    So the performance of the season was winning a game we were already out of.Sums Arsenal fans today up.We celebrate getting knocked out of the CL.Do you think Bayern fans even remember that game?.Reminds me when the win v Barca was the game of the season,We are just a club that remembers and celebrates failure.One day once Wenger has gone we will celebrate victories that actually count

  39. BADARSE

    Jun 18, 2013, 21:00 #35888

    Betty,slow down girl!haha.If you ever want to talk about Arsene being the daddy try me,it may be good therapy.Just keep perspective,and look for the positives,if all else fails,have a rant,let off steam,and then refocus.

  40. Betty

    Jun 18, 2013, 20:45 #35887

    @Wenger Must Go.Not as moronic as you, you old windbag. Wenger's the daddy and can stay as long as he wishes, you overstuffed pollywog.

  41. Mike Francis

    Jun 18, 2013, 18:46 #35885

    fussyproofreader - Good spot. Thanks. Now corrected.

  42. maguiresbridge gooner

    Jun 18, 2013, 16:45 #35880

    No big surprises, certainly not in the worst team performance category,the fact there were fourteen different games voted on says it all.I would agree it wasn't a vintage season on the goals front, maybe if we were to see them all again it might jog the memory, but i'd say Podolski's was the pick of them.Overall another non vintage year/season.

  43. Bard

    Jun 18, 2013, 15:47 #35875

    Thought the most interesting bit was the countries who responded to the online gooner. The word has spread !! To be honest I couldn't careless. The performances against Bradford and Blackburn tell you all you need to know about this season and this side. Santi was the best of a sorry bunch.

  44. Wenger Must Go

    Jun 18, 2013, 15:31 #35873

    Fifty nine per cent of people who completed The Gooner Survey are MORONS and exactly why Wenger won't be sacked as long as Arsenal finishes in the top four. Two teams Arsenal has finished above in the league, Chelsea and Liverpool has won the European Cup since the fourth placed team entered the Qualification/Play Off stage in 2003 and Wigan fans can take the piss out of us. Pathetic.

  45. johnnyhawleylovinggooner

    Jun 18, 2013, 15:25 #35872

    cazorla was my vote and i hope our manager sees that spending money can help the team.and carol is right ,kos as our second best player is a worry

  46. Mike B

    Jun 18, 2013, 12:30 #35864

    Just a comment -Cazorla was Spanish Player of the year 2007- he made a few enemies with the bigger clubs which is probably why he never ended up there

  47. Jumpers for Goalposts

    Jun 18, 2013, 12:17 #35862

    Good analysis Mike. That list of countries says it all really - if people from so many far flung places care enough to respond then it shows what a great club The Arsenal is. BUT - as for the optimism; I really want to believe things will get better but where is the evidence of that, after 8 seasons of Wenger's penny pinching and below par squads?? Gazidis said money is there to spend "if Arsene wants to" and followed that with "we will maintain our current strategy". To me that means more bargain hunting and more £60,000 a week contracts for rubbish like Gervinho, Bendtner and Santos. Such a strategy has not and will not deliver trophies!

  48. GG89

    Jun 18, 2013, 10:25 #35858

    Why were no votes cast from Mongolia, I went there on holiday and damn near everyone was wearing the red and white.... is the onlinegooner barred from their browsers over there?

  49. BADARSE

    Jun 18, 2013, 9:23 #35856

    Carol,we all have different opinions of course,but I think you have missed it with Koscielny.When I first saw him I noted his football,it was obvious!I just hoped he would make the transition into our Premier League.You mentioned the word bully,that is the Prem,fast,furious,exciting,but with a dark side of bullying.It is a culture shock to continental players.Not only do they have to find the energy resources,and prove their ability,but they have to accomodate those bullying tactics,which are alien to them,plus they will receive little,or no protection from our referees.Kos,has met all those demands,and conquered them.We have one of the best ball-playing centrebacks around now,he deserves his moment in the sunshine.

  50. Carol

    Jun 18, 2013, 9:15 #35855

    If Koscielny is our 2nd best player then we are in big trouble.On Cazorla yes he had a good seen.But come the big cmes against the top 3 he disappeared.At the moment a slow track bully

  51. Max

    Jun 18, 2013, 9:14 #35854

    Interesting read, good analysis, thanks.

  52. BADARSE

    Jun 18, 2013, 8:50 #35852

    Thank you Mike,a good analysis,and read.I thought at first it was my set of votes!Not at all a boast,I think virtually all recognise that those first places should have won,or at least been close contenders for the titles.Pity the negative aspects of the vote,i.e 'The worst...',had so many nominees,but as with the Bayern victory they tell a story,within a story.A general consensus that AFC fans are a little more optimistic for the season ahead speaks of a hopeful mood,let's hope those hopes won't wither on the vine.

  53. Der Projekt ist Kaput

    Jun 18, 2013, 7:48 #35851

    Mike - might I suggest that the three people who voted for Santi C as their first and second choice did so because there wasn't much left to choose from after his name?

  54. fussyproofreader

    Jun 18, 2013, 3:27 #35850

    I wouldn't be getting all up in Jack's grill and telling him about his "fagility" any time soon.

  55. CanadaGooner

    Jun 18, 2013, 0:03 #35849

    Very good reading indeed. My most disappointing moment of last season was watching our loss to Bradford. Truly pathetic display. I would struggle to any players in our team for praise from last season. Let's just hope Wenger wants a new contract and pushes for a trophy this season so he can get a lucrative contract, and then go back to the trophyless seasons! It really is extremely difficult to see any light at the end of the tunnel right now.