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Özil – Fine start


The two faces of Arsenal were seen in the 90 minutes at the Stadium of Light yesterday, but for the majority of the time, the best one was on display, and the three points were deserved.

In spite of suffering from illness of some form that kept Per Mertesacker back in London, Mesut Özil made his debut and impressed greatly, especially in the first half, creating chances for Giroud (who scored) and Walcott (twice, who didn’t). Some of the one touch play between the record signing, Wilshere, Ramsey and Giroud was a joy to behold. Arsenal should have had the game wrapped up by the interval, such was the quality of their play.

However, Theo Walcott’s off-day in front of goal meant that the visitors had to weather a bad 20 minutes after the interval. A penalty was conceded by Laurent Koscielny, whose tendency to make last ditch tackles does not always bring about the desired results. Sunderland scored and for a while looked as likely winners of this game as Wenger’s team. At times, Arsenal looked exposed as Flamini was unable to give his defenders the kind of screen they need to prevent opposition danger becoming something more tangible. He seemed to me to look a little off the pace. Aaron Ramsey was man of the match and Jack Wilshere showed signs of recapturing his old form, but on occasion, one of them needs to hold back and assist Flamini. It’s gung ho Gunners at times, and it will be interesting to see how it works out against better opposition than Paolo Di Canio’s side.

After the beauty of Arsenal’s second goal by Ramsey, there is no doubt that fortune smiled on the men from north London as a poor decision by Martin Atkinson in blowing up for Sagna’s foul on Altidore prevented another equalizer. It’s nice to get a break away from home and be on the right side of a refereeing error for once.

But let’s not be churlish, some of Arsenal’s football was breathtaking and incisive. There was rarely the feeling that the ball was being overplayed, and Özil’s touches were generally top class and kept the game moving. After the disaster of the opening day of the season at home to Villa, the players have buckled down and produced five wins in a row including the two European qualifiers. And there was no hint of them suffering after the return from an international break.

Things are ticking over nicely, but the issue of doing more to protect the back line will need a look at if Arsenal’s good run is to continue. There were enough danger signs yesterday to establish that this team is still a work in progress. Whether the return of Mikel Arteta is the missing piece of the jigsaw remains to be seen, although who the manager would drop when everyone is fit to facilitate this is a nice problem to have. Then again, the idea of everyone being fit seems a bit of a fantasy at the moment, with the news on Cazorla being ruled out for a month.

The indications are that Olivier Giroud’s twisted knee is not serious, and that is certainly one position where alternatives are thin on the ground, with Sanogo injured, the Walcott experiment presumably not to be repeated and The Greatest Striker That Ever Lived some way short of match fitness to say the least.

Let’s hope Giroud remains fit until someone can be bought in the new year to give the man a respite. Some very impressive performances yesterday – Ramsey, Wilshere, Özil, Giroud and Gibbs all worthy of honourable mentions. Beating teams like Sunderland home and away is exactly what is required if Arsenal are to contend again, so a valuable and deserved three points.

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  1. GoonerRon

    Sep 16, 2013, 20:38 #39314

    @ Maguiresbridge - you talk about Theo missing chances, and granted, he does miss them. However, he did still find the net 21 times last season, which is streets ahead of any other wide player in the PL and I'm sure right up there with the very best in Europe. You also stare he doesn't turn up in games, which granted, can happen with him. However, he still had 14 assists last season which is right up there with the best too. I know he can be frustrating at times but his pace alone gives us a good outlet and stretches the game to our advantage on many occasions. Tell me, if a centre forward played 9 out 10 every game but never scored he would still be criticised because goals are a strikers currency. Surely a winger/wide forward is judged on assists and goals and on that basis he is a superb asset. If you want the 9/10 every game plus the stats it will probably cost you c. £86m.

  2. HowardL

    Sep 16, 2013, 18:42 #39311

    I think people here are being exceptionally hard on Theo. Even the great TH14 did miss occasionally in one-on-ones with the keeper, as those in Paris 2006 will recall with sadness; however, we forgave Thierry because he converted most of the others. Go easy on Theo, pleeease; he will learn from Saturday's mistakes and may even challenge Giroooooud for the Golden Boot.

  3. maguiresbridge gooner

    Sep 16, 2013, 16:14 #39303

    Tony, again i agree with you that our midfielders have to learn to track back, but maybe their just following instructions and if that's the case thank heavens they weren't followed in the NLD.

  4. Johnny Lynch

    Sep 16, 2013, 15:16 #39300

    Esso - You say negativity thousands say reality .. Look at Ozil on Saturday , superb .. look at the recipient of three of his world class passes , Walcott , shi* as per.. And then Wenger on saturday evening looking like the cat that got the cream , what we supposed to do ? Forgive this idiot for the last few years because FINALLY he got his finger out ? We were a shi*e ref away from hanging on for a draw . Please . Get real . We're gonna be murdered by Napoli and Dortmund

  5. Ron

    Sep 16, 2013, 13:51 #39295

    Peter Barnes had it right abaout Walcott in the papaers at the week end. He said Walcott needs telling hes NEVER going to be an Henry or even a central striker at all, he needs to learn basic wing play and be a winger, an out and out winger! Half his problem is that Wengers has indulged him and let him think hes a centre forward in waiting. He isnt. Too weak, cant take chances often enough, cant hold up play, poor first touch and as that idiot Waddle said a few years back, hes got no footballing nous. Play as a whinger and theres no decisions for him to make. Just get it, take your full back on and cross or cut in and try a shot. Even Walcott might manage that. If he cant or if he wont, sell him.

  6. Spaced

    Sep 16, 2013, 13:43 #39294

    I have to disagree with the comments about Walcott. I originally didn't think much of him either, but having watched him progress over the last few seasons, my mind has been changed... he's still no Brady, but he IS productive. He's a dangerous player and I'm glad we've got him. Whereas I used to think we should sell him, I now think we're better off with him. He scores goals and sets them up, what more should he be doing? Yeah, he had a bad game at the weekend, but give him a break, they all have a bad one every now and again...

  7. maguiresbridge gooner

    Sep 16, 2013, 13:05 #39291

    GoonerRon, yes it is, that all sounds nice when written down or said aloud but it doesn't tell the whole story, like having one decent game in five, or not turning up at all, especially against the big boys and in big games, Blackburns, Bradfords,and small like Sunderland, and being anonymous, missing chances, and after all this time it's still happening,like Saturday where it was no surprise at all that he missed those chances. Never be the type of player to dominate games or display tekker ball skills i agree with you there and we'll have to add heading ability to that, but i'll tell you this mate for £1,ooo,ooo paid into his bank account every ten weeks he bloody well should be.

  8. RichardS

    Sep 16, 2013, 7:46 #39272

    I must admit to being rather smug about the form of Ramsey. I have always stuck by him and appreciated his hard work, despite some patchy form last season. While others on this site sought to demonise him. However, I can't run off on a streak of glory over Giroud. I questioned his ability and felt he was not quite good enough, particularly after the Villa game when I compared him to Benteke, who was brilliant against us. Looks like I was wrong! I still remain to be completely convinced by him, but that feeling is rapidly disappearing. On Wenger, I remain confused and uncertain. I still feel that a new manager would be welcome at Arsenal, but I understand why others have such faith in him. Believe me, nothing would delight me more than to see him prove the doubters wrong. If we can get results against the top sides this season, then I think we will all get belief back and see our great club start to compete once again. Get behind the team...and ALL the players. It will only help drive success.

  9. Ali

    Sep 16, 2013, 6:54 #39271

    With this squad, we should win a cup and compete for the title (IF) Wenger adds a quality striker to compete with Giroud. If not, we will have a decent run in the cups and title challenge until Februrary and then settle for a top four place as usual.

  10. Poirot

    Sep 16, 2013, 0:23 #39270

    Jeez! is there a site dedicated to the gooners solely to slag off the manager? So I get it. Some so-called fans come on this forum to pour vituperation on the manager of their club (win or lose) - he has to go. Granted the 2nd half of what could have been an easy stroll in the park was punctuated by grit and determination by the opposition, some refereeing blunders (not the Sagna incident) and wrong decision from ours. Yet, one should take the positives from the game. Ozil will provide, Giroud and yes the often-slated Wally would score, the team would gel even better than it appears presently and some players from the youth rank would break-in. The manager is a genius but not beyond reproach. The players are human and so are the supporters (both very much arguable). Support your team and be careful what you wish for.

  11. Fozzy

    Sep 15, 2013, 21:22 #39268

    Lovely to read some of the names from back in the 1960s. Apart from the big names there were some real characters, like Alan "Daisy" Skirton, an earlier version of Walnutt. Famous for his swashbuckling runs down the wing leaving defenders in his wake, before hoofing the ball high into the North Bank. Then there was Big Jim Furnell in goal who wasn't very good but loved by everybody. And who could forget Jon Sammels, who could really belt a sodden leather bladder of a ball, but for some reason wasn't liked by the home crowd, which meant that he wasn't picked for home games. This meant you had to endure a "football special" cattle truck to some dodgy away ground if you wanted to see him play.

  12. Rocky RIP

    Sep 15, 2013, 20:49 #39267

    @Harvey - I agree about Flamini. He's a very useful squad addition. He can cover several positions, including full back. He's a rare leader and vocal member of our team and someone who will put himself about all over the pitch and get in the opponents' faces.

  13. Westlower

    Sep 15, 2013, 20:46 #39266

    Stevesam, My everlasting memory of Geoff Strong was when he switched to centre forward after Joe Baker was sent off for flooring Ron Yeats with the best uppercut I've ever seen. Shortly after Liverpool signed him. Loved free scoring Alan Skirton & Johnny McCleod, what a pair of wingers they were. The first game I ever saw at Highbury in 1961 we beat Man U 5-1, that was the team of Mel Charles, John Barnwell, Jimmy Bloomfield, Jack Kelsey, Billy McCullough, Eddie Magill, Laurie Brown. Bobby Charlton played in that game and many years later I was able to give him a replica prog of Arsenal 4 v Man U 5, 1958 pre-Munich game. I was a guest of a box holder at OT the game when Mark Overmars scored the winner, clinching the title for us. Haven't been back to OT since!

  14. GoonerRon

    Sep 15, 2013, 20:40 #39265

    **don't come around too often**

  15. Harvey

    Sep 15, 2013, 20:38 #39264

    Kev you say Flamini was off the pace.You having a laugh?.He is doing the job of 3 men in midfield because Wilshere Ozil and Walcott wont protect our shaky back four.He is a one man shield in there.The guy covers every blade of grass.No wonder he looks knackered.I said when we signed him he was the captain without the armband.He's a leader and a shouter

  16. GoonerRon

    Sep 15, 2013, 20:20 #39263

    @ Bard - the thing is Baresi's and Adams' come around too often. I acknowledge there have been failings for this group of defenders as recent as last season but I think it's fair to say there was a change to our defensive mentality/confidence after the Munich away game which has seen a relatively established back four produce much better defensive displays as borne out by my the stat on my previous post.

  17. Stevesam

    Sep 15, 2013, 20:02 #39262

    Westlower – Mcleod, Strong, Baker, Eastham, Skirton, best forward line in the league, pity about the other players behind them. Most games ended 5-4 or 3-2 either way. Eastham was my first hero. Years ahead of his time, with his great touch and passing. Great penalty taker. ( He was a member of the winning World Cup squad of 1966 ) I was gutted when he was sold to Stoke. He smoked like a chimney ! Never turned down the request for an autograph, a really nice bloke. A young Geordie Armstrong sometimes played on the wing. Similar to the Board of today, the best players were sold, Baker, Strong, Eastham – sustainable business policy. Rather than build a team around these players ( David Herd before them ) it was always about the money and not putting their hands in their pockets.

  18. BADARSE

    Sep 15, 2013, 19:39 #39261

    I'm Spartacus, er I mean, I remember George Eastham, and Joe Baker. Ron and I had an exhausting chat about them, a week or so back. The third player, completing the trilogy, was Geoff Strong. In fact it was me spotting that he had just died, which sparked the conversation with Ron. Three big guns, gentlemen.

  19. Bard

    Sep 15, 2013, 19:19 #39260

    Westlower I remember him well. Standing at the Clock end watching him and Joe Baker. Fantastic. Great memories pity about what came after him.

  20. Westlower

    Sep 15, 2013, 19:05 #39259

    Is there anybody out there old enough to remember George Eastham? For those of you shouting who? George joined Arsenal from Newcastle in 1960 for £47,500. He was the Ozil of his time, slightly built but oh so skilful. Pass and move, never gave the ball away & he scored goals. His partnership with Joe Baker was the highlight of the 60's. Then came 70/71 and the team who refused to be beaten.

  21. GoonerGoal!

    Sep 15, 2013, 18:57 #39258

    Yep, there go those damn swallows again! I enjoyed Ozil's debut and Ramsey's continued re-birth, but I'll reserve jumping on the "all will be well in the garden" bandwagon until the end of October. By then, if Wenger's latest experiment is really any better than any of the other versions, we should be flying with 27 out of 30 points. Impossible? ABSOLUTELY NOT, we will have played 10 Premier League teams of which only Spurs finished higher than 8th last season. All will truly be revealed about the "brand new" Wenger then, but for now... VIVE LA REVOLUTION!

  22. Bard

    Sep 15, 2013, 18:56 #39257

    GoonerRon, Im talking about the need to have dominant personalities through the spine of the side and world class means a Baresi or an Adams. i get the stats but where was this defence whenever we came up against Drogba, where were they when we got dumped out of the cups last year by rubbish from the lower leagues or got trounced by Bayern?

  23. BADARSE

    Sep 15, 2013, 18:44 #39256

    But westlower, you are my kind of Arsenal, stay that way, please. Good report Kevin, enjoyed it. Rocky RIP, I will always stand with you, always; lee afc, budge over a bit, I like your company, Giroud reminds me a lot of Big Raddy, as selfless, positionally astute, hard working and good on the deck for a big lad, and not a bad header of a ball, Raddy was just a tad better in the air...nope, he was magnificent in the air. Charles, thank you for your comments about the Sagna foul, I thought I may have been the only one who saw it that way. Ron and maguiresbridge gooner, sell Theo now! I hoped, and still do, that his contract will allow us to get a better fee after this season. You cannot make a silk purse from a sow's ear, sorry lad.

  24. GoonerRon

    Sep 15, 2013, 18:41 #39255

    @ Bard - is it a prerequisite to have a 'world class' (whatever that actually means) centre back to be successful? CB more than any position is built on solid partnerships and getting a pair of players whose talent compliment each other to the best effect. For example, would it surprise you to know that since we lost to the spuds last season we have conceded 4 goals from open play in 17 matches? For a defence that is much maligned I'd say that is pretty **** hot. I'm not saying the defence (or more pertinently the balance in midfield) couldn't be improved, but I think the need for 'world class' in this position isn't as critical as some would have you believe.

  25. Bard

    Sep 15, 2013, 18:24 #39254

    Critical is not the same as negative. Supporting the Arsenal is not some kind of Scientology movement where everyone who criticises it is a heretic. We havent won diddly s**t for 8 years and buying one super player isnt going to make us morph into a Champions League favourites. I'm pleased we beat Sunderland but I'm not blind to our deficiencies. We've known about them for years. To be a top side you need world class players down the spine of the side. We have that in midfield but we dont have a world class keeper, or a world class centreback or a world class striker. That not negative thats fact.

  26. GoonerRon

    Sep 15, 2013, 18:22 #39253

    @ Maguiresbridge Gooner - you say we're still waiting for Theo to come good. Is this the same player who scored 20 goals last season whilst largely playing from a wide position? Theo will never be the type of footballer to dominate a game or even display tekker ball skills but you can't question his contribution in terms of goals and assists, which is primarily what his role is all about. It says a lot about his progression that the big surprise yesterday was that he didn't take his chances, as he has typically been very proficient in converting similar opportunities.

  27. maguiresbridge gooner

    Sep 15, 2013, 17:51 #39252

    Tony, yes the 100k a week man should be on an athletics track not a football pitch but he wouldn't be getting as well paid there, way way overrated (but that has been the norm at this club for a long time) how long have we been waiting on/for him to come good now? but we still mustn't criticise because some day it could happen.

  28. billdodgin

    Sep 15, 2013, 17:19 #39251

    While rootin for the team over the last seasons, I have still developed extreme cynicism over Wenger's ways to the extent of wanting him to go in order to give us a chance of more success. I'm not going to let these doubts or views go on the basis of a few good results and the arrival of MO11 ( about which I am delighted).Yes, it was great to win 3-1 at Sunderland, I have glanced several times at the table for the buzz of seeing us top, AR16 has been a revelation, and there were some cracking sequences of play. BUT....BUT...Has AW learned some new tricks after 8 years that he can instil into this squad and will now put us further on than just scrapping for top four finishes? I think the frailties remain, as Sunderland were able to expose. Walcott's untaken first half hat-trick I was willing to put down to post-Ukraine, but still feel he should be able to come back and show a bit more lethality. The horrors felt as Giroud looked to have done his knee- because we lack sufficient experienced cover in that position - are of Wenger's making and lack of forward planning.Last season latterly we showed an ability to grind the points out ugly, some of that we must retain, while hopefully playing some of the beautiful stuff we showed at times yesterday.The returning wounded will be great to have , and January business will be crucial.If the manager has learned or regained his touch, that is great- but I still think it has been valid to doubt him after such a long and questionable period on his watch.

  29. jjetplane

    Sep 15, 2013, 17:17 #39250

    Know what I'm saying Stroud Green! Few of em on here are more like schoolboyz giving it 'I've always liked him nerrrrr ....' Never even run down a player except Walcott but then he is Prof's little mouthpiece on the pitch. Seems when a few players start bossing the issue, you have to ask - what is the point of Wenger? Funny how Walcott joined him on saturday on observation duties. Sure it registers with the other players. Another Beckham. West lower - you can preach all you want - you are not my kind of Arsenal. Get yourself a joke book.

  30. Stroud Green Road Boy

    Sep 15, 2013, 16:40 #39249

    Lots of negative comments on here about 'negative' fans. They don't see the irony...

  31. maguiresbridge gooner

    Sep 15, 2013, 16:37 #39248

    We're still a work in progress alright, when have we ever not been? but we were still to good for mouthy Di Canio's side, they had their moments and a good spell at the start of the second half but we were always in control apart from Koscielny who no matter how much he's raved about, is a liability with his tackles in and outside the box, can anyone honestly say he won't give one,two,or more pens away before the end of the season? they could prove costly and will against better teams. A well deserved three points with a very good debut from Ozil with an assist and lets hope there's many more (along with goals) and it was well taken from Giroud for his goal. Yes man of the match was Ramsey with a great volley for one of his goals, and Jack had a good game and took his usual kicking (although not as bad as usual) well. There were good displays from others as well. The 100k a week man was his usual self though, he should have had a hat trick why it took OGL so long to hook him i don't know, if there's one over rated player and over paid it's him. Its early days yet and still a lot of work to be done as you've said Kev the danger signs are still there and we'll get far harder tests than sunderland, and it's early days for our star signing as well,who will hopefully get better as he settles in but there's bigger tests to come and lets hope we can cope with them, and a couple more real super quality signings will certainly help.

  32. lee atc

    Sep 15, 2013, 15:57 #39247

    Rocky RIP...it felt like me and you against the world last season on the Giroud situation. He's proving all the criticism that fell into his lap totally irrelevant. I stated from day 1 that he looked quality but unfortunately far to many people tried to compare him with RVP. Keep up the positivity, you never know, a few more gooners may change there spots.

  33. Rocky RIP

    Sep 15, 2013, 15:33 #39246

    West lower - well said mate. It's called support. Call me old-fashioned, but that's the role us fans are here to play. (Unless you are JCL who pays through the nose and expects entertainment on a platter.) When did booing or getting on a player's back ever make them play better? People forget the hard time Pires got in the first 6 months. They are not robots, they react to our approval or lack of it. They feed off confidence. Witness Freddie's magnificent run of form in the title run-in in 2002. It co-incided with the emergence of the 'we love you Freddie..' chant. Our own fans 'running a player down' will eat away at them more than abuse from opponents' fans. Despite what people say, our manager knows enough to know if a player isn't up to it. It doesn't need our fans disapproval to make the point. Don't let players get away with being lazy; but adding to getting on their backs and compounding their poor form is just counter-productive.

  34. Gare K

    Sep 15, 2013, 15:16 #39245

    A good performance and a deserved win for us. I’m sure Walcott’s goals will come soon but he certainly needs to sharpen up his act in front of goal. Is it me or has anyone else noticed that Theo’s goals have dried up since he ‘signed da ting’ back in January? Judging by the highlights the attacking play especially in the first half was a joy to watch. Ozil already looks the part but I’ll still give him time to fully adjust to the rigours of English football. I’ll admit that I’ve never been a Kocielny fan and he giving away another penalty because of his last ditch defending nature is a worry. That’s why personally I’ve always preferred Mertesacker. There is a case for Sagna to have been sent off but hey ho there you go. Ramsey deserves credit for his great start but I’m intrigued to know what Wilshere’s role in the team is when he plays. Wenger has had him far too deep since his comeback last year and with Ozil now around (still a great signing though), he could be wasted playing in a deeper role limiting his ability to create goals bearing in mind he doesn’t score enough goals as it is. Still, it’s a good win that I’ll accept but I’ll take it one step at a time. Far too often in recent years we’ve been top of the league at the early stages of a Premier League season only to fade away later on. It's still a better start than that lot from the Lane. #fact! Up The Arsenal!

  35. Westlower

    Sep 15, 2013, 15:15 #39244

    jjetplane, You ask what is wrong with a real fan running down an Arsenal player. I can give you a long list of players who struggled in the early days of their Arsenal career, including Legends, Henry, Bergkamp & Pires. No player improved under a storm of futile abuse. Most players need a long uninterrupted run in the team to build confidence and improve technique. Jenkinson is the latest & he'll only improve with games. It's when a team or individual player is struggling when they need your support the most. Why would you want to undermine players in the team you profess to support? We all need Theo scoring goals again but it'll only happen if we lay off the barracking. Scoring goals is cyclic, his turn will come again. Early last season Giroud struggled to score. Bergkamp was heavily critised by his lack of goals when he first arrived. The press ridiculed him for failing to score against Hartlepool in the League Cup but supportive fans can help a player turn the corner.

  36. Ron

    Sep 15, 2013, 14:44 #39242

    Good win there. We've rarely played well there for years. However, sell Walcott asap (there a quite a few mugs who ll pay up some real cash for him) and use the cash wisely to add a proper forward and we still need a defensive midfielder quite badly. Flamini isn't the answer and in my view he never was hes an ok tryer. Nothing more

  37. jjetplane

    Sep 15, 2013, 14:38 #39241

    Ozil debut was incredible from a viewpoint that he operates on a different planet from current Arsenal AFC. Macams are already dead and buried and yet they could have won this game in much the way Everton peed on the special one. The 'told you Ramsey was a genius' mob are also the immature followers of a 'leader' who will be walking at the end of this season. If Ozil is part of a brave new world then a new and younger manager is needed to complete the transformation. Personally, I have always had time for Ramsay but if real fans want to run a player down, what is the problem? He seems to have turned the corner injury-wise and that is a joy to watch. On a continuously sour note, Walcott was out of his depth and needs a reduction in wages and a few weeks of ballet on the touchline. Again, Ozil's first half was sublime though I have seen him struggle to really contend in much bigger games. The absolute positive (though it will win us nothing without an Adams/Viera doing the marshalling) was the interplay between Ramsay, JW, Giroud and 'the uvver geeeze' .... Walcott was an observer. The lad has too much money and too much gob of the Wenger type. Who knows - this may be yet a very interesting season. Bring on the pain! That is what football is.....

  38. Incapable of saying anything positive

    Sep 15, 2013, 14:05 #39240

    1. The weather was poor. 2. Theo was rubbish. 3. Gary Lineker never gives our manager sickly and totally favourable interviews whilst standing up on MOTD. 4. We've never replaced Perry Groves. 5. Chas n Dave don't like us. 6. Alan Sugar doesn't own a razor.

  39. DW Thomas

    Sep 15, 2013, 13:39 #39239

    First off Walcott was poor. He had chances on a silver platter and flopped on them all. Hopefully there was a bigger reason. Otherwise Ozil will get frustrated with this. Plus, he is lazy as a defender and somewhat weak. We need more from him. Those that say eat humble pie about Ramsey are right, and wrong. I always liked him, his attitude and effort. But he was skying finishes like yesterday routinely last year. And he usually gave the ball away a lot. Both things he has fixed. But many were right to criticize him the last couple years. Ozil is our new Fabregas. He has all the right tools to be great for us. Giroud looks confident too, but who do we have to replace him? Again, our transfer ineptitude will haunt us I think. We needed that striker. Lastly, Sagna had been great and that foul could have gone against Altidore just as easily. He would not have pulled on Jozy like that had he not been getting it back just as good. At least we won and I have to admit I am looking forward to games again with mild excitement!

  40. Stevesam

    Sep 15, 2013, 13:23 #39238

    @Jude – where are you ? You spent the whole of last season telling us how crap Rambo is. Perhaps you are at home eating humble pie along with @Trevor and Kevin the Editor who also gave Rambo a hard time. MoM again and so far, our player of the season. Rambo has the ‘mental strength’ to become a ‘ top, top player’ Jack has fallen behind Rambo, Jack needs to score more goals to become a legend like Pires or Ljungberg. A fine away win after the international break. This could be the season we push on. I shall be at the Bowl to watch Ozil, the quality signing we have been waiting for, if only we could have signed Suarez, do you think he would have missed the 3 good chances Wally had. To all of you that have given up your season tickets, what a shame !

  41. MC

    Sep 15, 2013, 13:18 #39237

    Bard - we have the same size squad as Spurs its just we have a lot of injuries. When everyone is fit we have a very capable squad, Wenger knows this but what is he meant to do? Buy more players so that when everyone is available good quality players feel unwanted? We had many chances yesterday and if Walcott had his shooting boots on we would have been 4-0 up at half time.

  42. Rocky RIP

    Sep 15, 2013, 13:18 #39236

    @Alsace - I agree there is nothing wrong with criticism where it is warranted. Especially constructive criticism. Us fans need to put pressure on the club when things aren't right. There's no use pretending all is well if it isn't. However, it seems there are plenty who appear regularly on this site who ONLY pop up to criticise. Give them the chance to say something positive about a player they've previously slated and they disappear. People love Arseblog because he's intelligent, balanced and has a great sense of perspective. People who are incessantly and solely negative are a drain and will get ignored as far as I'm concerned.

  43. Bard

    Sep 15, 2013, 13:14 #39235

    Sorry to spoil the love in. We did play some nice stuff and Ozil looks what he is world class but Sunderland are bottom of the table and the game should have been over by half time. Instead we made it into a struggle in the second half. I will reserve judgement until we play one of the big boys. He's taken a massive gamble going into the season with such a small squad. The really good news is that Wenger has said he will walk if they dont win anything so either way it's a win win situation for me.

  44. Charles

    Sep 15, 2013, 12:51 #39234

    Altidore only scored because he fouled sagna, just because he's been fouled first doesn't allow him to shove sagna out of the way. Correct decision from the referee.

  45. Alsace Lorraine de Totteridge

    Sep 15, 2013, 12:46 #39233

    Criticism where its due is neither heresy nor a sin. K.W. gets it right by praising what was good and flagging up areas of concern. Like an election where the question is always " it's the economy stupid" the question for Arsenal is always "it's the defensive stupid". So whilst we can enjoy what he have acquired in the transfer market and the improvement it has brought, it is correct to flag up areas of weakness. Wenger will never listen, because he and his disciples know best, but it isn't a crime to flag it up, because the AMG's want the club to be successful. They just disagree with the AKB's about the means.

  46. Westlower

    Sep 15, 2013, 12:42 #39232

    As long as we're contesting the PL & CL we have to hold our nerve and let the kids play in the League Cup & FA Cup. Never mind we've never won a trophy for x years. The two domestic competitions matter not a jot. We'll only attract World class players to the club if we're in CL. The domestic cups are now the priority of 'small clubs.' Wigan won it last year & Millwall were bang there again! What good did it do Birmingham winning the League Cup? Relegation! Doubtless we'll have the usual anger and hand wringing should WBA knock our kids out. Great if we go through but please let's not have a repeat of last years episode of replacing the manager & barracking of the players because we lost on penalties to Bradford. Rejoice that we've uncluttered our fixture list. We need to appreciate that the majority of our squad no longer get a break due to the International games. There is no Xmas break in UK as afforded to our opponents in CL. We do have strength in depth when you consider that yesterday we are without Cazorla, Arteta, Ox, Mertesacker, Podolski, Sanogo, Diaby. How many PL clubs can cope with 7 players out injured or ill. Chelsea were only minus one player yesterday and still lost. There's no point buying a 'second rate' striker just to keep the numbers up because when everybody is fit he'll be cast aside as 'dead wood' & AW will be critised for buying crap. The only way we'll attract a world class striker is by prioritising the PL & CL. We have to take losing to a 'small club' in the UK Cup competitions on the chin! Yes we'll get slaughtered by Adrian Durham & co but hey ho, bring it on! To all who slagged off Ramsey last season how good a player is he now? If you can't support players in your own team then stay away and go shopping with your missus!

  47. Mark T

    Sep 15, 2013, 12:26 #39231

    A really good appraisal - thanks. It was to see so much positivity amongst the away support at Sunderland. At times our football was fantastic. The passion seems to be with the team this season. The major problem with the previous few seasons is that the attitude of the players stunk at times. There is definitely more desire now. For me, we're two signings away from genuine title contenders. But I'm just enjoying supporting my team with hope rather than the despair that has seemed to follow us around for a few years now. Onwards and upwards.

  48. Rocky RIP

    Sep 15, 2013, 12:14 #39230

    Number of comments on this site after a defeat v number of comments after a win. I'd love to see the stats. It seems plenty only feel the need to comment when it's to be negative about the club they support. ('With friends like these ...') Constructive criticism where it's needed and credit where it's due please fellow Gooners. All those too quick to slaughter Giroud and Ramsey will doubtless be currently penning how they may have undervalued these players slightly. No? I got slaughtered on here last season for sticking up for Giroud's obvious qualities. No he isn't RVP and yes we need another striker, but I still value Giroud's contribution and recognise his obvious qualities. Hopefully more people are backing him now. PS. We've got Mesut Ozil, we've got Mesut Ozil ..

  49. Dan h

    Sep 15, 2013, 11:54 #39229

    Only saw the highlights looked like the game should of been put to bed by HT.Ozil one of those players however frantic a game is he always seems to have time impressive start & Ramsey his first goal technically superb.Need to get a few players back & quickly some tricky moments for 20 mins but especially after 'the interlull'job well done.

  50. Tony

    Sep 15, 2013, 10:21 #39228

    A game of two halves.We murdered them in the first half but Walcott was ****e.Lets put this to bed now.He is not a striker and never will be.He is a sprinter in football boots.The second half we were shocking.We got away with it because Rambo scored two superb goals but the second half was lethargic. Sunderland are bottom for a reason but they had us rocking(they hit the woodwork twice then Atkinson came to our rescue) until the 3rd goal went in.Flamini was once again outstanding but he was fighting a losing battle in midfield because Wilshere Ozil Walcott will not track back to help an overworked defence.Our midfielders have to learn to track back.Kos is a mistake waiting to happen the 2nd pen he has given away so far because he goes to ground to easily.On the plus side Rambo superb Ozil excellent first half.But with Cazorla out the squad is threadbare look at that bench yesterday.Top now but we will run out of steam unless we buy in january

  51. cyril

    Sep 15, 2013, 9:32 #39227

    Nicely put report. So many good things yesterday. On the not so good - I watched the game on stream and it cuts out but I am sure I saw Sagna wrestle the forward running for about 5 yards and then stop when he got into the box and let him continue for a side foot. Call me 'ol fashioned' but are you not meant to put a foot in [in your own time..] Maybe I did not see that. Mr Bould take note. Come on you Arsenal !

  52. Torbay gooner

    Sep 15, 2013, 9:25 #39226

    Decent appraisal as usual from the editor. Ozil had an impressive debut for a man who was unable to train on the Friday and another all action performance from Ramsey, who I would not have been gutted to see leave the club last season. I am very happy to have a change of opinion about him and hope he can maintain this form. I'm sure like most people I was holding my breath when Giroud went to ground in the final minutes and would have preferred him to have been subbed when we scored the third goal. Just shows you how precarious our striking options are thanks to the manager's failure to bring in another quality striker. Still well done to the team.

  53. Esso

    Sep 15, 2013, 9:23 #39225

    Blimey. What no negativity?