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Online Ed: Arsenal make it ten away wins on the trot in Marseille



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It’s been a sequence and a half…
Bayern Munich
Swansea
West Brom
Fulham
QPR
Newcastle
Fenerbahce
Fulham (again)
Sunderland
Marseille

Along there way, Arsenal have rode their luck once or twice. Some of the matches could easily have been drawn, and Marseille could have taken the three points last night, but this is a results business, and an away win in a group such as Arsenal’s is no mean feat.

It was a bit of a reality check after Ozil’s imperious debut v Sunderland, against better opposition who went close to scoring on numerous occasions. The Gunners still look vulnerable in the air from set pieces, and cannot rely on good fortune if they are to continue to pick up results on the road.

The Velodrome looked rather strange with the familiar stands having roofs, but it appeared to assist the volume which seemed even louder than the old open air days. The man with the megaphone is a great idea and one that is worth a try to drum up some noise at Arsenal, if only because the majority of the crowd these days only know about half a dozen chants. It made for a cracking atmosphere, helped by the close shaves on the pitch.

Arsenal’s passing before the interval was often a bit careless. Aaron Ramsey blamed the grass in his post match interview. Sometimes, you just need to adapt to the conditions. Mesut Ozil did not have the space to exploit that he enjoyed last weekend, but that was hardly a surprise. It was a night for digging in and trying to get out with something. A draw would have been a fair result, but as the second half progressed, Marseille needed to take chances, and things opened up.

It is interesting that although Marseille were in the pot with the second seeds in the draw, there is a perception that they are the whipping boys of this group. The vagaries of the UEFA system throw up some odd rankings, but at least it has made for a decent set of matches this season.

In the second half, Arsenal created good chances for Gibbs and Walcott, who with nothing between himself and goal, seemed to switch off his overdrive and look for a pass that he could not execute. He was having a woeful game, but in typical Theo style, popped up at the key moment to make a difference with a wonderful volley to secure the lead. It was a period of two calamitous defensive errors. Mertesacker got away with his, thanks to Gibbs, but the Marseille defender who teed up Walcott with a very strange attempted headed clearance had no such luck.

Aaron Ramsey improved as the game went on, and whisper it quietly, but there are hints of a young Bryan Robson about him. His drive for the second goal, intelligently assisted by Olivier Giroud’s run, was a joy to behold. He blotted his copy book late in the game with the concession of a penalty, even if the award might have been harsh. Put it down to fatigue and be thankful that such errors are made when they can be afforded. The home side did not have enough time to capitalize on the converted spot kick.

So Arsenal were a little fortunate, but dogged. In cups you need both luck and determination to get results, and this was a good start to a very difficult group. I am a little concerned that many of these players are not getting any kind of respite due to the thin nature of the squad, but hopefully the injured returnees will be able to help out soon. Let’s see if the same eleven start against Stoke on Sunday. More fascinating will be what kind of team takes the field against West Brom in the League Cup next week. Vermaelen as captain for that one is nailed on anyway.

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  1. Stroud Green Road Boy

    Sep 22, 2013, 13:05 #39585

    Badarse, Jamie is not here to make friends. He's here to wind people up, and enjoys doing so - he's said as much. He does not make amusing 'digs'; he is, as Ron says, overtly rude and dismissive. He doesn't take on the points made by his opponents. He plays the man, not the ball. His own points are poorly made and do not stand up to any analysis (e.g. Wenger has proved everyone wrong - it is September). You would not seek to excuse him if he was not pro-Wenger.

  2. Alsace Lorraine de Totteridge

    Sep 21, 2013, 23:27 #39578

    @Ron. One would have thought that the apologists would have a go at me, since the first thing that I would do if I bought Arsenal would be to restrain myself from defenestrating the manager and hand him his P45 instead. All the AMG's want is for the club and the team to be run properly. All the B*llsh*t about lack of resources can't excuse the lack of basic good sense that has been so absent from a club that has traditionally had nous. I'm very much looking forward to what Flanimal will do to Stoke tomorrow if they try and hurt Wilshire and Ozil, that is of course if OGL doesn't decide to play Diaby or Carzorla instead of him. We are always just one bonkers decision away from disappointment and that is why the Manager has to be sacked. Hopefully Stan and Ivan have now worked that out.

  3. GoonerRon

    Sep 21, 2013, 18:03 #39573

    @ Jack - how many times in the past 8 years have we been accused of not beating the teams we should? How many times have we been accused of getting out fought by lesser opposition, especially away from home? Lots is the answer. When we put a run together that quashes those accusations it is surely a legitimate counter to those that put such views across, no? @ Charlie Charlie - I feel aggrieved you've picked me out as the only one who 'drones' on about the same thing - surely that could be thrown at the majority of posters on here? Perhaps it's because you don't agree with my positivity that I get the critique?

  4. BADARSE

    Sep 21, 2013, 9:00 #39565

    Ron, you know I have respect for you, I like to think it is my byword. There are a lot of insults that fly around on these posts, often they are amusing little digs, occasionally they go too far. I make no excuse for rudeness, but have witnessed JAMIE exchanging posts with a number opposed to him, just him replying. It was often like a scene from High Noon! Perhaps it has gone too far already for each to change tack, sometimes the die is cast. I would urge both to bury the hatchet, are you listening JAMIE? Both of you, in different ways light up this website for me.

  5. Ron

    Sep 20, 2013, 14:17 #39541

    Chris - I dont find the 'JAMIE'posts irritating at all. He has his views. I dont agree. Its fine. What i dont like is his method of articulating them. Hes usually rude and insulting and dismissive of others intelligence and just now, hes dismissive of mine. Accordingly i ll tell him hes pathetic suggesting i speak 'poop'(his words). His latest profound offering with his perspective on greek philosophers tell its own story all in a few words, so ill say no more! While im here - Jamie, i suspect the only thing remotely greek youve ever experienced is a take away?

  6. maguiresbridge gooner

    Sep 20, 2013, 12:58 #39535

    Ron, 42328, is there a trophy for that?

  7. BADARSE

    Sep 20, 2013, 11:09 #39527

    @JAMIE, am a supporter of yours, I like your style! Just a pointer, your analogy with ancient Greek philosophers missed the mark. These guys were the true heroes, without their reflections and using the power of their imaginations, allied with an awful lot of science, we wouldn't be where we are today in terms of understanding. Many would still be acting like troglodytes, sitting in caves hurling rocks at others...er, scratch that last sentence.

  8. JAMIE

    Sep 20, 2013, 10:24 #39523

    Too many on here fudge about navel gazing and having discourse with each other about nothing but speculation and hearsay.Like the ancient stoic philosophers of Athens they wander around in a pool of negativity speaking what their swollen ego's think to be true. Try using your eyes and your mind and and make a true judgement on where Arsenal now stand, instead of your itching ears which only hear what they want to hear.

  9. Chris

    Sep 20, 2013, 9:44 #39518

    Ron - What's pathetic is anyone who takes a reasonably sanguine view of the team is branded as having fallen for the clubs spin. They aren't the only ones out there trying to influence people and it is actually possible to have evaluated the situation with an open mind and come to different conclusions to you and your type.... You might find Jamie's "crash, bang wallop style" (copyright Badarse)irritating but many people would agree with at least some of the sentiments he's expressing.

  10. BADARSE

    Sep 20, 2013, 9:40 #39516

    Alsace, you have encapsulated the mood/situation as near to perfectly as we are likely to see on any exchanges on this website. It, to coin a hackneyed phrase, 'is not rocket science'. For a multitude of reasons, many relevant and others not, we find ourselves in a funk at the club. We have hopes, desires and aspirations as fans. We are arguably addressing them in very moderate terms. Many would regard one swallow making a spring, others not. This is our fate at the moment. Level-headedness from the older heads should be the order of the day. Exercising caution, but as one such individual, rejoicing at the here and now. It may be as good as it gets...but it may just be the start of something.

  11. Alsace Lorraine de Totteridge

    Sep 20, 2013, 8:24 #39509

    Before we start hailing the new dawn of wonderfulness, let's see what happens when Chelsea/City/Manch turn up to play. Will we win the battle in midfield? If Flamini is on the pitch and has taught others how to get stuck in then possibly. Of course the team are motivated, they are a bunch of decent hard working young men, but they usually founder on the rock of you know who's incompetence. We need another strong defensive midfielder (Vermalen could do it) and the defence coached properly and reinforced. We are now witnessing the pleasure which comes from strength and the resulting self respect which the team feel. Long may it continue but it is, in reality, as fargile as Diaby's body.

  12. Ron

    Sep 20, 2013, 8:21 #39508

    Jamie - I think you ll find that you're universally recognised as the speaker of the 'poop'that you accuse me of speaking! Carry on celebrating nothing. Its your type ( you and the others who cant or wont see beyond the Clubs/Wengers spin) who've lowered the overall expectations of the Clubs supporters so badly that now, a few wins v poor teams 4 games into a season is seen as a cause celeb and a reason to enthuse that 8 years of humdrum mediocrity has been forgotten.Its pathetic, but i suspect you're familiar with being told so!

  13. Gary

    Sep 20, 2013, 8:06 #39507

    Jamie In recent seasons we beaten Barcelona AC Milan and Bayern but those victories didnt matter as we got knocked out.What is the point in celebrating a win when you get knocked out?

  14. Fishpie

    Sep 20, 2013, 7:42 #39506

    Ron and Tony Evans; understand your reluctance to believe wholeheartedly in a totally revitalised Arsenal. But although you may be right that we haven't played any strong teams in our recent winning away run, my recollection of the last 8 years is that we dropped many a point and lost many a game against precisely the so called inferior teams like these. So what I will definitely acknowledge about this current team is that it is up for the fight, prepared to work hard and more inclined to get back and try and catch teams on the break rather than just try and keep the ball. This added pragmatism is not perfectly executed but here's hoping its not transitory or paper-thin either. As you say, we will see.

  15. WashBelly

    Sep 20, 2013, 7:33 #39505

    funny how you can't celebrate a win (AKB) but are waiting on a loss (wenger out). what happened to camaraderie? we as arsenal fans are in danger of making scousers look balanced. up the arse!

  16. BADARSE

    Sep 20, 2013, 7:31 #39504

    @Canterbury Gooner, I too think Freddie was one of the best ever to grace our team. Theo is the one non-footballer in the club, ergo- no comparison. By the way you grumbling twits out there, read the next words carefully, you may just learn something. 1) I am an Arsenal fan. 2)We are in a rich vein of results/form. 3) People, like me are happy to reflect on the aforementioned positively. 4) This does not make us clowns or apologists, it makes us fans. 5) You throwing rocks, jibes and sneering insults, gives your position away as those with an agenda. Serious and mature observations, and comments are welcomed, sniping isn't.

  17. Torbay gooner

    Sep 20, 2013, 6:56 #39503

    Yes a good run of results since the Villa game and the team are showing some grit, however the first real test(in the league) will come at Old Trafford where we have been abysmal in recent seasons. Let's see where we are in December! Btw westlower all teams lose players through injury,Spurs lost three last night, but the fact is Wenger should have added more players when he had the chance!

  18. Ian

    Sep 19, 2013, 23:26 #39502

    Will the AKB's please climb back into their hole and come back when Wenger wins a major trophy.I am fed up with them celebrating a win over a poor French team like we have won the CL and premiership double.As soon as we play a decent team in the CL we are out it always happens every year

  19. 8 years and counting

    Sep 19, 2013, 23:16 #39501

    @JAMIE we didnt beat Bayern.Thats why they went on to win the CL.They beat us on away goals scored.It was a two-legged tie not a one off game.If we had beaten them we would have been in the next round wouldnt we?We LOST on away goals

  20. Brian

    Sep 19, 2013, 22:37 #39500

    What the hell is wrong with you lot a win is a bloody win. 3 points no matter who you beat. If we beat all the sides below us we would be champions. Celebrate every win with gusto you mind find you enjoy it.

  21. JAMIE

    Sep 19, 2013, 20:46 #39499

    WOW We are so good even Ozil looks average in our team. Ron you don't half talk some poop. I never realised that once a team trailed by two goals the team leading then didn't have to try in the second leg. Good job we didn't have your attitude in 89. It really annoys the WOB's that we beat Bayern because they can't come up with their twaddle about Arsenal not beating anyone decent. Wengie 10 Wobbie's NIL.

  22. Mark from Aylesbury

    Sep 19, 2013, 18:53 #39498

    I alluded to this on a previous response but the big signing has definitely pulling both wings of the camp together. I as a Wenger cynic now feel that a balance is now in place where Wenger has to go beyond the youth experiment and the 4th is better than a cup mentality, I genuinely feel a cloud has been lifted as we start acting like the big club we are. Pro Wenger acolytes will also be happy for him and feel that the club are backing him. If me and PPP can exchange happy banter then all is good with the world:)

  23. Charlie Charlie

    Sep 19, 2013, 18:50 #39497

    Gooner Ron - even you must get bored droning on about the same things in every post. Why don't you just put up your name and then we can just guess the rest of what you were going to say. We've certainly heard it enough times.

  24. Alhassan Sulley

    Sep 19, 2013, 17:34 #39495

    fantastic start to the championsleague and the epl as well despite the fact that we lost our first game to villa.with the likes of arteta,cazorla and podolski all nearing return i think this team can perform great this season

  25. radfordkennedy

    Sep 19, 2013, 17:15 #39494

    Georgakis....I'll tell you something my friend if you was an undertaker people would stop dying!!!,in the name of God cheer up..3 points job done next!!

  26. Bard

    Sep 19, 2013, 16:59 #39493

    Jack; I'm with you on this one. We need to sharpen up quickly. We looked off the pace in the first half and better sides would have killed us off. We do look a bit less fragile than last season so far. I need to see how we do against the big boys before I get too excited about new dawns.

  27. Chris

    Sep 19, 2013, 16:20 #39492

    Ron - "I d also like to know what relevance end of last Season games have as a barometer to what the teams is really about THIS Season?" Because the run of results shows the continuing development of the team. What's not to understand...?

  28. Man United Killer

    Sep 19, 2013, 15:49 #39491

    While we managed to take our chances, we rode out luck for long periods yesterday.Marseille failed to take their chances but the story will be different against a more Ruthless opposition.I was slightly disappointed with Jack yesterday.Was it me or did he just keep running into Marseille defence and losing the ball unnecessarily when a simple pass or a shot would suffice.One too many touches sometimes.On the bright side a win is a win and three points away from home in the group of death is always something to smile about.

  29. maguiresbridge gooner

    Sep 19, 2013, 15:44 #39490

    Tony Evans, we have some fantastic air brushers supporting arsene fc.

  30. Jack

    Sep 19, 2013, 15:42 #39489

    @GoonerRon No it doesnt mean we have turned a corner.We have been here before in the last 8 years.Most notably in 2007/08 when he lost our first league game in Dec.Our record against the top 3 teams last season was 2 pts out of 18.When we start beating the top sides then we can start looking ahead.We know form experience that when the team has started the season well Wenger fails to strenghten in january(i go back to the 2008 season again) only when 4th place is in doubt does he splash the cash Arshavin and Monreal.We still need another CB and a striker.Not to sign them would be criminal by Wenger.As for last night for an hour lest be honest we were poor our best two players were Flamini and Gibbs.It was shocking how many chances an average Marseille created.Tougher games await and Higuain and Lewandowski wont miss the chances Marseille did

  31. maguiresbridge gooner

    Sep 19, 2013, 15:28 #39488

    Marwoodonthewing, hear what your saying about the international break helping us with our injuries but it could work against us too, with players returning to fitness and ready to play just in time to get called up, with their country benefiting from our rehabilitation (for what it is) and there's nothing we can do about it, just to break down and be sent back to us again, hopefully it doesn't happen, but we seem to be one of these clubs who too willingly release players, and have players who too willingly count country just as important as their club.

  32. Man United Killer

    Sep 19, 2013, 15:27 #39487

    Georgaki-Pyrovolitis find a hobby will you!

  33. Westlower

    Sep 19, 2013, 15:24 #39486

    Dan h, Thanks for the injury updates on Zelalem & Arteta.

  34. Dan h

    Sep 19, 2013, 15:12 #39485

    Some run away from home results business & you can't help but see we are becoming more difficult to beat.The game was patchy Ramsey is on fire ATM & quality finish from Walcott thought Gibbs was excellent.@Westlower & anyone interested WBA Zelalem is out injured (up to 2 months) but expect Arteta to either start or on the bench nearing fitness now.

  35. Moany Evans

    Sep 19, 2013, 15:05 #39484

    Why do we keep winning? I'm starting to sound ridiculous.

  36. Canterbury Gooner

    Sep 19, 2013, 14:58 #39483

    What an absolute disgrace to compare the sprinter to one of the best Arsenal players to grace our club.

  37. ElSquirrel

    Sep 19, 2013, 14:28 #39482

    I'm very pleased we are stringing together wins. While I can find some fault with individual players, as a team they are doing quite well. Flamini back gives us some missing spine and Ozil is giving us some threat going forward. Good things to come I expect.

  38. Westlower

    Sep 19, 2013, 14:22 #39481

    Never mind the 10 successive away wins, we've only lost once in the past 18 PL & CL games. Villa were awarded 2 pens + playing against 10 men in part for our only loss. Not bad for a thin squad containing mediocre GK'S, CB'S & only one moderate striker & shameful home support by some sections. Alternative team v WBA with 'strong squad.' Same defence + Arteta, Diaby, Ox, Rosiky, Podolski, Cazorla. It highlights we're short of a CB but Sagna has proved his worth as stand in CB. Obviously some people don't rate Podolski as a striker. Granted normal luck with injuries we'll be a very strong outfit come the New Year.

  39. mrswoo

    Sep 19, 2013, 14:16 #39480

    Everyone I have spoken to, of all ages, thinks the man with the megaphone at Marseille was appalling, deeply irritating and also distracting. So NO THANK YOU to that idea.

  40. maguiresbridge gooner

    Sep 19, 2013, 14:05 #39479

    A little fortunate yes, with the obligatory cock up in defence and conceded pen but to be fair to Ramsey who had another good game with a great goal, going by the replay he got the ball and the opposing player trailed a leg, but as you say it was to late to make any difference. The 100k a week man was his usual self then scored with a good strike with the help of the defence even he couldn't miss that. We did what was needed to be done a good away win with three points from our first game is a good result all that matters, with a lot of talk about another record set (that should be good for the ego), at least it's the right kind. Maybe we can go on and do what we used to do a long time ago while breaking records as well, something more important, actually win something.

  41. ppp

    Sep 19, 2013, 14:02 #39478

    @ Mark from Aylesbury - It's not Rambo that's the new Freddie it's Walcott! His goals and assists from the right wing were beyond ljungberg standard and may well improve this season. Theo wants to be the new Henry but frankly he's the new Ljungberg and that is more than good enough for me!

  42. Ken

    Sep 19, 2013, 13:56 #39477

    Hi Ron... Barking up the wrong tree dude Im generally a "Wenger Out!"... but I think the negative spin on the 10 away game streak is well... negative spin.

  43. Mark from Aylesbury

    Sep 19, 2013, 13:50 #39476

    Well we certainly woke up happier than the Chelsea supporters. Reckon It's allready make or break for Maureen. Has Ramsey got the happy knack like Llundberg of scoring the vital goals. A new Freddie would do for me. We are still leaving big gaps at times but the counter attacks are pacier and there just seems more brute strength and purpose. Long may it continue

  44. Tony Evans

    Sep 19, 2013, 13:46 #39475

    GoonerRon - It is a great run I grant you but my point is it is still way too early to get carried away by it. The last 8 years can't just be air-brushed away as if they hadn't happened. I am enjoying the current good form but no cigar from me yet.

  45. Ron

    Sep 19, 2013, 13:40 #39474

    Ken - There you go masking over reality and distorting what peole say and think. This is how Wenger has trained you lot. If those 10 games contained for eg wins at Everton, Stoke. Tottenham and West Ham as a minimum mix, maybe the 10 games would carry more persuasive material to think a corner has been turned. I d also like to know what relevance end of last Season games have as a barometer to what the teams is really about THIS Season? Some of you guys are like starving hyenas gorging on the left overs of a rotting carcass. So easily satisfied!

  46. Marwoodonthewing

    Sep 19, 2013, 13:29 #39473

    Do you get the feeling we are finally playing like a team? This side is the best since 2007/8 and we have a shed load of injuries too! Gibbs was immense last night, didnt stop running and Rambo well he has surprised us hasnt he? His form in the last six months has to be credited to his attitude and the manager and his coaching staff. In fact I notice Kev your report doesnt give any credit to the manager as per usual for not only another away win but this superb form since March How about some credit where its due please? Lets hope we get some of the injured players back very soon, the international break in Oct may help us with us. Up the Arse!

  47. GoonerRon

    Sep 19, 2013, 13:28 #39472

    @ Tony Evans - wouldn't you consider 15 wins out of 18, 10 away wind on the spin (irrespective of who its against) and only 4 goals conceded from open play in those games a corner turned?

  48. Green Hut

    Sep 19, 2013, 13:25 #39471

    Westlower- One fairly good striker = thin. Two fairly good centre-backs + one injury-prone centre-back = thin. Three average keepers = thin. Yes nice and clear thanks.

  49. Westlower

    Sep 19, 2013, 13:22 #39470

    Possible team v WBA Fabianski/Viviano Jenkinson Hayden Vermalen Monreal Eisfeld/Olsson Frimpong Zelalem/Yannaris Gnabry Akpom Ryo The League Cup IS NOT the real test of the current well being of AFC. It's an opportunity to blood the kids & players returning from injury. It's a real test for Fulham FC!

  50. Ken

    Sep 19, 2013, 13:16 #39469

    To those going: oh most of the 10 away teams wins were against dross... Leagues generally only have a few "leaders". So any team will have many more games against "dross" than a so called top team. How many teams do you know who've gone on a 10 away game winning streak.. against any sides full stop? A team is hardly going to go away and win successively at Man U, Man C, Liverpool, Chelsea, Barca, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, Dortmund,PSG, Napoli.. sandwiched with all the lower sides are they? But it seems only then will you "start to believe" - deary me

  51. CanadaGooner

    Sep 19, 2013, 13:07 #39468

    @ Ron - precisely mate; the excitement is good, and tickets are starting ti sell out again (i just bought my v norwich tickets this morning and by noon, that game has sold out); however, the real test for us is how we play against our main rivals + not getting dumped out of all the cup competitions by lower league teams. If/when we begin to show that kind of form, we will know that trophies are within reach yet again.

  52. Chris

    Sep 19, 2013, 13:00 #39467

    Westlower - Don't worry, Green Hut knew Wenger was talking about the squad post-injuries, he was just making a point that we all agree on (the squad is not deep) in his own inimitable way... But I agree with him that you do have to wonder about Wenger's levels of self-awareness when he says things like that....

  53. Bard

    Sep 19, 2013, 12:58 #39466

    Good result but not much of a performance. Rambo looks different class at the moment. I agree Kevin we are really riding our luck. A better team would have been out of sight by half time the way we played in the first half. Still am happy we can win ugly.

  54. Westlower

    Sep 19, 2013, 12:54 #39465

    Green Hut. Losing 7 players to long term injuries equates to having a thin squad. When they return the squad is no longer thin. A 25 man squad minus 7 = 18 (thin)!!!! 11 on the field, 5 on the bench + 2 fit spare, = thin. 11 on the field, 5 on the bench + 9 fit spares = not thin!! Clear now?

  55. RJ

    Sep 19, 2013, 12:52 #39464

    Our last 19 Premier League games (Half a season) we have taken by my calc 45 points, winning 14. That is League winners standard (Man U won on 89 points last season). We have lost two games in that period - Villa at home - it happens. Tottenhame away. I acknowledge we did not play Chelsea or Man City in that period, but we did play Spurs twice. Past performance is no indicator of future, but perhaps we should acknowledge that there are green shoots. More than green shoots. Yes, we need to put up a sustained challenge - but I am hopeful it will be this year. @Arseneknew best - I agree Wenger did nothing differently after the Villa game - he feels he has set his side up properly, and that was one bad result - historic trend is looking good, I hope it remains that way - Hope we destroy Stoke on Sunday. Let's get behind the team and support the boys on Sunday - come on you Gooners.

  56. CanadaGooner

    Sep 19, 2013, 12:51 #39463

    BADARSE thanks for the reposte. I tend to ignore idiots who come in here without anything to say (but to read and criticize what others say). Any clever person would understand that most teams go away to play for a draw, which sometimes backfire late in the day and turn into a 1 - 0 loss (so, if we hadnt pressed to get our goals in, the last minute penalty would have taken a passable draw into 3 dropped points); but our dear GEORGAKI is simply too dim to understand that. As for the walcott and ramsey comment, again, anyone who's been an arsenal fan longer than last season, would be able to digest that too. But again, there's always that exceptional idiot who thinks himself ever so smart.

  57. Ron

    Sep 19, 2013, 12:51 #39462

    DannyJW and BADARSE - Youre both absolutely right too guys. Its just that supporting Arsenal this last 8 years, particularly the last 4 has been like having pleuresy. You think youve recovered but you just know another dose is lurking just beneath waiting to floor you!!

  58. BADARSE

    Sep 19, 2013, 12:42 #39461

    Ha ha, Ron I've just crossed over onto this article and there you are again, firing from the hip! You must be a Gunner.Great stuff! By the way, it is true that the ten victories can be reduced by argument, they were all winnable games for sure, but it is nice to celebrate no matter what, after all it was us that won them, no one else. Don't think we are getting carried away, just enjoying the vibes, buddy.

  59. DANNYJW

    Sep 19, 2013, 12:41 #39460

    RON: While I do agree with you this could well be another false dawn at least we are winning these games against poor sides. Until recently we were drawing and losing too many of these. Now let's get our prayer mats out and pray for no more injuries!

  60. Der Projekt ist Kaput

    Sep 19, 2013, 12:41 #39459

    Excellent report as usual, Kevin. Good result and a gutsy performance - are we witnessing a 'tougher' Arsenal? Let's hope so. Can we please, though, get away from zonal marking? On another night we will be punished where Ramsey is up against the oppositions strapping forward while Per/Kos/Tommy are watching how the move unfolds.

  61. Tony Evans

    Sep 19, 2013, 12:33 #39458

    I can only echo what Ron has said - after so many pitiful performances and let downs over the last 8 years I will need some convincing that we have finally turned a corner at last. Obviously I hope we have and it would great to have some confidence in the team again.

  62. Ron

    Sep 19, 2013, 12:20 #39456

    Mr Pyrovolitis - Im sure that CG can look after himself, but youre the one looking proundly daft with your retort to him bearing in mind the overall context of his post. Sarcasm is the succour of the desperate. Your idiocy in replying how you have is outstanding though. Youre not 'Jamie'in disguise are you?

  63. DANNYJW

    Sep 19, 2013, 12:16 #39455

    To be fair the pitch did look a bit bumpy and affected our passing. However, we seemed to have gained some much needed team spirit, resilience and ground out a result (Flamini's return no coincidence?) Much needed three points as I have a feeling Marseille will struggle to get any in this group.

  64. John Gooner

    Sep 19, 2013, 12:13 #39454

    Great result, if not performance. It is great to see the lads getting the results for the fans, luck can only get us so far though. Lucky in the semi fianl or final is all very well, group stages against the whipping boys is something else. You could be forgiven for thinking the season is 5 games long, the way some people are clutching. That said, I don't want to be accused of negativity; long may this run of away wins continue and let's hope we can turn the Emirates into the fortress it should be. One last question, with the exception of Bayern (who had already beaten us), how many of those teams could finish in the top 6 of the prem? - Damn, that sounds like negativity.... COYG.

  65. Ron

    Sep 19, 2013, 12:08 #39453

    Im quoted on other threads for giving credit to the 10 away wins and credit due. Lets have perspective though. one was v a team that had already won the tie and never cared too much. One was v a team already 'on the beach' and 7 were v teams who are to put it mildly, rubbish to dire. Last nights was v a team who in truth arent very good either. When we string 10 together with a few top scalps in there and a few other solid outfits, ill even start to believe again.

  66. BADARSE

    Sep 19, 2013, 11:47 #39451

    I bet AW did something different, that has made the difference since the opening day. A bit trite? Right back at you, Arseneknewbest.

  67. ppp

    Sep 19, 2013, 11:38 #39450

    A good report and fantastic to read something from the editor that's positive and picks up on the team's strong points. Criticising the weaknesses always comes across better when there's acknowledgement of the good things. Comparing Ramsey to Robson is interesting but I think he's more like the German player Schweinsteiger. We need Podolski back pronto, then we're having a laugh for the rest of the year. Hooray!!

  68. Arseneknewbest

    Sep 19, 2013, 11:27 #39449

    If I was Ramsey, I wouldn't appreciate being compared to a perennially pissed. injury-prone old bully like Robson. Surely his form so far this season has been more like Fabregas at the height of his powers? Let's hope he can do the same thing on Sunday by taking it past Shawcross to put the seal on a 3-0 win. Great recovery after the opening day - I'd love to really know what the difference is because I doubt AW has done anything different. If the Spuds game was anything to go by, my guess is that the players are re-discovering their pride.

  69. Green Hut

    Sep 19, 2013, 11:04 #39448

    Clever move to list the teams Kev, remind us of the dross we've scraped past along the way. Wenger was quoted ahead of the game yesterday as saying "I’m concerned the squad is looking thin. From now until Christmas we will play every three or four days, and we cannot play for the next two months with the squad we have at the moment". Surely he didn't actually say that.

  70. Mike

    Sep 19, 2013, 11:01 #39447

    Just thinking...more goals have been scored against us from the penalty spot than from open play - how often does that happen?

  71. James

    Sep 19, 2013, 10:51 #39446

    Not a great performance but a win is a win.We took our chances they didnt.But we still looked shaky in central defence.Its amazing that Sagna is a better CB now than RB.Ozil had a quiet game to show we cant expect world class performances every week.The stand out players were Gibbs Flamini Ramonaldo.Records mean nothing without trophies

  72. Martyn

    Sep 19, 2013, 10:42 #39445

    A megaphone at the Emirates would drive fans away! I nearly turned the sound off on the telly. Sounded like a cattle market. As for the match, we couldn't pass the ball in the first half but were much better in the second. Flamini held it together and was my man of the match. Will Arteta get back in the team?

  73. BADARSE

    Sep 19, 2013, 10:41 #39444

    Oh, and thank you Kevin. A good report, with your usual insight. How therapeutic to be able to write in a positive vein, well done.

  74. chris dee

    Sep 19, 2013, 10:29 #39443

    Any away win in Europe is good. A good start to the season. Now comes the hard part,maintaining form for the next eight months.Many expect us to fall away and if the last eight seasons are a guide it will happen. Unless of course a bit of pragmatism,defensive organisation,focus and an unshakeable determination to slug it out blow for blow against the likes of Chelsea ,United and the top European teams has been ingrained in the squad.We'll see.

  75. BADARSE

    Sep 19, 2013, 10:26 #39442

    Georgaki-Pyrovolitis, yassoo. I think you are a little harsh on CanadaGooner. Theo and Aaron have started to bang in the goals, Aaron because he is a good player, on the crest of a wave, and full of confidence. Theo, because he gets enough opportunities to at least score on a semi-regular basis, not because he is a good goalscorer, or a good player. Form changes. 'Waking up to', seems a bit critical true, but not a stupid comment, nor profound. The ''would have ended up losing' was surely a writing style, wasn't it? Anyway, nice to connect with you buddy. A wonderful result in Marseille.

  76. Croker

    Sep 19, 2013, 10:20 #39441

    Let's all enjoy this run of results and hope we can ride out the injuries and suspensions. Is n't life great being a Happy Gooner.

  77. mike

    Sep 19, 2013, 10:08 #39440

    Marseille are at best a championship side that should be in the CL. They played pathetically...just joking - great win -who would have thought a year ago that Ramsy would be knocking it in left right and centre - enjoying the moments -well done on a club record

  78. Georgaki-Pyrovolitis

    Sep 19, 2013, 9:45 #39438

    If Arsenal had not scored two they would have lost one nil! Really? What a profound comment. Oh, and the other gem. Walcott and Ramsey "suddenly waking up to" scoring! You should be thankful for internet anonymity because you have made two profoundly stupid comments.

  79. CanadaGooner

    Sep 19, 2013, 9:22 #39437

    Well, fortune always favours the brave. If we didnt put the 2 goals in, the game would have ended with us losing 0 - 1 to the dive that was a dodgy penalty. If we can carry on getting the ball in the back if the net (which is something walcott and ramsey have struggled at for years, but are now suddenly waking up to), we will do just fine. If you look at trophies won by british clubs in the past few years e.g. Chelsea winning the champions league (FORTUNE is a key word, as they were totally outclassed by bayern). But to get to that good fortune, you have to be in there with a shout. Lets get to some finals (be it FA cup or Capital One) year in year out, and with some good fortune, we can end the trophyless run. Well done lads!