Signs of Recovery

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Signs of Recovery


Chelsea surprisingly losing at Palace should, ideally, have set this match up as a genuine six pointer for the title. As it is, Arsenal’s priority was rebuilding confidence after the poor displays against Chelsea and Swansea. Time to consolidate.

The first half did not go well, with the visitors controlling the game and consistently running channels to allow their team to cut back the ball from wide. However, Arsenal’s massed ranks meant there were enough bodies in the box to limit the damage. City’s solitary goal came on the break when the Gunners did not have enough men back. Losing possession up the field against the top teams can be hazardous, and so it proved.

Arsenal’s approach was markedly more cautious, and they played deeper than traditionally at home, aware of the dangers of over-committing. There was a feeling of resignation at the interval. It was difficult to see where an equalizer might come from.

Yet a different Arsenal took the field for the second half, and critically, created enough pressure to force parity, with more zip and drive about their play. We witnessed this for about two minutes against Swansea on Tuesday, and it produced two goals. The rest of that match was like watching the Gunners on Mogadon. Yesterday, aware of what was required, they were far more switched on, and showed more commitment, with its just rewards. There were chances at both ends to win the game, and by the end, a draw was probably the right result, as the home team played the better football in the second half.

Thomas Vermaelen had a good match, and it would be churlish to blame him for the City goal, which fell to David Silva due to the rebound. This is encouraging in the light of the likelihood that Laurent Koscielny will miss at least another week of football, and possibly the semi-final trip to Wembley.

Olivier Giroud ran around and gave what he had left, but his shot in the second half when he had clear sight of the goal from a little way outside the City penalty area summed up his season. The man is running through treacle. Playing as a lone forward all season is a thankless task, especially when the lack of support from midfield is not forthcoming.

It is interesting to note that both Manchester City and Liverpool have rejected the vogue to play with one forward and seem to be doing quite nicely with it. Do Arsenal have the personnel to play 4-4-2? City play with a more orthodox wide man on one side (Navas) and one who tends to float in (Nasri) on the other, although when everyone is fit, Navas might be displaced by Silva. Manuel Pellegrini has plenty of options, even when he has an injury list of his own.

Arsenal’s goal came from a good ball across the box, courtesy of Podolski, and there is a feeling that the team do not use width enough when they are having trouble breaking down determined opposition.

As much as anything, yesterday was about restoring pride and giving the Gunners some kind of platform to recover their season. Only the most blindly optimistic would believe that the title is still on, even if mathematical possibility still exists. Arsenal have taken two points from the last nine available. However, the performance gives them something to take to Goodison Park next weekend, and the crowd left the stadium a lot happier than they did on Tuesday after the Swansea match, even if at the end of it, the result was the same – two points dropped at home.

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  1. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 01, 2014, 13:07 #48732

    R/K chippy can still drop the shoulder mate, he came walking around the outside of the ground with his wife after a game five or six years back, there wasn't to many about as it was late on and after signing a few programmes joined in for a kick about with some young lads, he was running rings round them even now, needless to say he got a good cheer as he walked off. And yes the FA cup, telly on first thing to watch all the build up, interviews, etc and as soon as it was all over and the cup was lifted it was outside football in hand to join all the others who were doing the same for a game. And years later if you weren't there in person of to the pub for the duration, those were the days.

  2. Ron

    Apr 01, 2014, 12:40 #48729

    R/H - Ha. Oh mate! Yes. Leeds in 72. I never got to that one. How i utterly detested that 'b'tard' Charlton as you say, but i detested Clarke more. What a slimy, cheating, sinister, dirty, cowardly slime ball he was. He stood for what Leeds were at that time for me. At least You knew Giles and Bremner would kick you in the air. With him it was all blind side stiff, elbows and shin digs and stamping, the big skinny cretin he was. Good striker though. Mind you Leeds could play as well couldnt they. As much as i disliked him and them, i wish Wenger would learn that all teams needs some spite in them and that everybody boots lightweights up in the air if theres no 'protection' in the team.

  3. radfordkennedy

    Apr 01, 2014, 12:13 #48725

    Funny you should say that if we weren't in the final I would be dead jealous and I took great exception to Sunderland beating my idols in73 and getting to the final,and in some ways that defeat signalled the end of the good times for that team which is why it probably sticks in my mind as a sickner,we always cheered on the underdog didn't we and even though Sunderland did for us I couldn't stand Leeds at any cost so I was pleased they won,especially as leeds had broken my heart the year before.If we make it to the final can you imagine the media coverage weighted in favour of the underdog we face everyone will be cheering on our opponents and your right mate if it pours down cup final week and its a wet mud bath pitch I shall start to see ghosts of Ian Ure and Bobby Gould,Terry Cooper and that bas@ard Charlton

  4. Ron

    Apr 01, 2014, 11:40 #48724

    R/K - used to be dead envious of the teams who got to the FAC Final. Did you? When my late Dad and My Unc took me to Wembley in 68 and 69 i well recall feeling a bit miffed that it wasnt the FAC with all its grandeur and prestige. Was even more miffed when the full time whistle blew though!Tears in 68, plus anger - well it was Leeds wasnt it!!

  5. radfordkennedy

    Apr 01, 2014, 11:25 #48720

    Ron your right mate other than the cup final or an England game there wasn't much football live on the telly.I do recall growing up in highbury the houses and flats would hang banners and flags,red n white bunting and the like from balconies and windows it all made for a great occasion which sadly seems to have died away,there wasn't a great deal of money around as a kid which is one of the reasons I went off to sea as a young man to take some of the pressure of my parents but come cup final day we'd always find a way to party especially if we were in it and all the kids would wear the free cardboard hat given away in the friday night standard funny the things you remember

  6. Ron

    Apr 01, 2014, 10:58 #48719

    R/K - Absolutely mate. Tele on at 10.00 am and not moving from it till 5.00 pm! What a feeling to see the players interviwed etc and fans too in those days where there wasnt much TV coverage. The streets used to be more or less empty on FAC Final day didnt they. First final i can recall seeing was Man Utd v Leicester in 1963. McLintock played for the Foxes that day. (Leicester were my '2nd team' then and still are mate) Lost 3 - 1. Great to have the Foxes back in the PL next season where they belong!

  7. radfordkennedy

    Apr 01, 2014, 8:45 #48711

    Ron..I love the FAC and should we overcome Wigan I'm sure the excitement will build amongst the fans and come as a welcome distraction from other matters,I banged on a bit about wanting a day in the sun and a chance to ribbons on a real trophy,so to some extent my wishes for this season may come true.Did anyone else get up with the larks to watch every second of the build up to the game as a young man? Being unable to eat with nerves and seeking comfort and soothing in a Watneys Party Seven!..remember them ..oh happy days

  8. radfordkennedy

    Apr 01, 2014, 8:03 #48710

    Frankietheswede...both chippy and rocky made my all tim xi..todays midfielders are all about give n go football with a few exceptions but those guys could drop their shoulder and dribble through a team and then give a 5 yard pass and take 3 people out the game,on the subject of david oleary true class,I remember seeing him up against a very useful WBA team in the 70's and he had Regis in his back pocket not many did that,like TA he knew when to stick or twist and had a knack of being in the right place positionaly,mind you I did enjoy the days of an assassin in the team and loved watching Sammy Nelson do his best to intimidate the wingers of the day

  9. frankytheswede

    Apr 01, 2014, 0:42 #48709

    good stuff guys, classy stuff there. reason im asking is what with rocky rocastle passing away 13 years ago Ive been watching some clips of the old boys and wanted to hear youre thoughts on them as I never had the pleasure myself. I gotta say though liam brady, how good was he I mean compared to say the current crop, im not putting the boys down or anything and I know they are only highlights im watching but seriously brady looked like gold from what ive seen. and rocky dude played like zidane lol seriously all the skills the drive the control the pace, looks like they would walk into todays team. give me another one ron please on brady and rocky

  10. The media

    Mar 31, 2014, 21:42 #48708

    Arenal fans- do you recall headlines 'Arsenal top of the league' ? No, they didn't happen. As soon as Liverpool have a sniff, that is the headline. We are just LONGING for a Liverpool title. As for this whole business about Ferguson knocking Liverpool off their perch (and Liverpool about to reclaim it) I wish people would stop re-writing history. George Graham knocked Liverpool off the perch in 1989 and 1991. Liverpool haven't been on the perch since 1990. When Ferguson one his first title in 1993 LFC had been toppled already. He just went and claimed it for himself for spells.

  11. Any Old Iron

    Mar 31, 2014, 21:22 #48707

    Yes, on the subject of defenders. The rearguard is my favourite too. Always has been. The analogy is; They always stay behind, to allow time for others to escape at great cost. DO'L represented Arsenal with distinction and can rightly be proud of his contribution to our great club. He partnered some marvellous CB's in his time, I remember well seeing a young 17y/o called Tony Adam's under his wing. Also remember another, the late Tommy Caton. In his time at City in the early 80's his reputation was growing by the year. Arsenal paid a then sizeable fee to enlist his services. Always remember watching him from the east stand, in a team that contained Paul Mariner & Tony Woodcock. Honest days they were. RIP Tommy+

  12. Carlos

    Mar 31, 2014, 21:11 #48706

    O'Leary was a great player. I always thought he was really fast and read the game brilliantly, and he had to play alongside some real dross.

  13. Roy

    Mar 31, 2014, 20:38 #48705

    Ah, DO'L. Now there was a class act. At games you could hear him bawl out Willie Young to leave everything on the deck to him, even though it would have been in the gameplan he would take the majority of stuff on the deck, and Willie likewise in the air. You see, Willie would forget sometimes bless him ! I once went to a book signing of his "My Storey", and I asked him why he never followed Brady and Stapleton out the door. His answer ? "Well each to his own son, but why would you want to leave a club as great as Arsenal ? They gave me everything". What a legend. Then again, my heroes have always been defenders. Anyone else the same ?!

  14. Ron

    Mar 31, 2014, 20:18 #48704

    Making Money .... - You make an appropriate few points very well and very succinctly.

  15. Ron

    Mar 31, 2014, 20:06 #48703

    P45 - Sorry mate. I didnt mean to be harsh. I loved DOL as i was trying to say to franky. I had forgotten the totality of his honours haul though as you say. There was a time when i used to advocate DOL as a Gunners boss in waiting.

  16. P45 for Wenger

    Mar 31, 2014, 20:02 #48702

    Bit harsh on O'Leary Ron.Remember he could have left with Brady and Stapleton in the Dead years but stayed loyal.For the first part of his career he played under poor managers and with poor players but he got his reward for his loyalty later in his career under the great George.O'Leary won 6 trophies which is more than the bunch of losers we have now will ever win

  17. jjetplane

    Mar 31, 2014, 20:00 #48701

    Something we can all agree ABC ABC ABC (repeat)! It would be great to see Terry and Maureen having a good cry while Hazard decides to join Klopp/Martinez whoever at Highbury 2. Sweet dreams are made of this.

  18. Making money thats all Arsenal are about

    Mar 31, 2014, 19:49 #48700

    Chris we were desperate for a striker last summer Wenger couldnt say we didnt have the money as we spent £42m on a midfielder.He went into the season with Giroud Bendtner and a postman.That was gross mismanagement.He will never be a great manager again.His dealings in both tramsfer windows prove that.Walcott got injured on Jam 4th Wenger had 4 weeks to sign a replacement but didnt.We have money to spend but he would rather sign Kalstrom for free.Great coaches do not send teams out with suicdal tactics like Wenger did against the top 3.

  19. Ron

    Mar 31, 2014, 19:33 #48699

    franky - 2 totally different players mate and one with a host of top honours to his name, the other not so much, but to choose, its TA everytime. Their respective styles complimented the others though.

  20. Gaz

    Mar 31, 2014, 19:25 #48698

    In these days of player and Club greed it's only right we spare a thought for a player who really would have played for Arsenal for nothing. Rocky Rocastle-You'll never be forgotten...

  21. Chris

    Mar 31, 2014, 19:19 #48697

    Making Money... - I would agree that Liverpool as a club seem to be showing more ambition, in football terms, than Arsenal and I envy them that. If we showed the same ambition, I think many people would be pleasantly surprised at how good a coach Wenger would suddenly be perceived as being.

  22. maguiresbridge gooner

    Mar 31, 2014, 19:17 #48696

    frankytheswede, i brought DOL'S name up on here a while back as always having good things to to say about the club and not disrespecting it whenever he's asked or interviewed or making an appearance as a pundit, although a few reminded me of a couple of things he said and done (as far as i can remember it was as a manager himself)like pissing us off by blowing kisses to Pires when with leeds etc, etc. But a top defender a bit unorthodox if you like not really remembered for his heading despite being a defender, and as Ron says no real pace but his long legs and stride got him there when coming to clear up field or into row Z. Still holds the record for number of appearances. I have met him on a few occasions and still class him as a true legend.

  23. Ron

    Mar 31, 2014, 19:16 #48695

    Hi Chris - Thats so funny you saying that. Its exactly what i said to a friend of mine yesterday lunch time. 'ABC' - Absolutely mate!

  24. Chris

    Mar 31, 2014, 19:07 #48694

    Fair enough Ron, I accept the local Liverpool fans may be different but they aren't the ones I'll be mostly encountering! Liverpool wouldn't be too bad I suppose. At the end of the day, I suppose it's ABC when it comes to who wins the league - Anyone But Chelsea!

  25. Making money thats all Arsenal are about

    Mar 31, 2014, 18:49 #48693

    Chris I want Liverpool to win the league to show up Wenger as the fraud he is.Last season they finished 7th they may win the league or come close to it while we are once again fighting just to get in the top 4.We were 1st a month ago now we may finish 5th and still Wenger has his followers.As i said Wenger is nothing but a fraud

  26. frankytheswede

    Mar 31, 2014, 18:22 #48692

    RON I wasnt expecting that lol what a wonderful analysis of a player. I grew up with good ol tony adams in the mid 90s, if you had to pick one or the other RON who would it be ? thanks for the response bud

  27. Ron

    Mar 31, 2014, 17:49 #48691

    frankythe swede - DO'L - top performer mate he was. Id say he was the defensive equivalent to Keven Keegan. He wasnt naturally gifted but made sure he made the best of what hed got and became very good. He had no real pace, wasnt a brilliant header of a ball but was intelligent, like Bobby Moore was. He didnt need all the facets of what we usually see as needed in a top defender as he used his brain.He cd play a good game as a full back as well as a central defender. He had quite a few Irish guys alongside him for much of his career and they all played well and relied on each other. Rated him highly. Never a dirty or roughhouse type defender. He had poise and control.

  28. frankytheswede

    Mar 31, 2014, 17:33 #48689

    been at the summit half the season,We have to win the cup and make top 4. we would still be in with a shout if we hadnt lost to stoke and drew with swansea. everton away is tough but after the draw with money bags I feel more confident about this game. It would help if we had players that can stay fit and contribute for the whole season, and why has ramsey got a new contract so soon after the previous one. I mean its not as if any of these players have won anything for the club. what message does that send to the players do f all and still get 100k a week lol. one for the old boys on here how good was david o leary I know about the titles and appearences but how good a player was he, no one ever talks about him.

  29. Ron

    Mar 31, 2014, 17:31 #48688

    Chris - I hear you there, but you speak of fans who arent Liverpool born and dont live there. I dont doubt what you say, but Liverpool fans generally like and respect Arsenal. Its maybe the commonality of detest of Man Utd! The true locally based scouse fans arent as you describe. Not near it even. I can only say this on the experience of having for 25 years spent much time in Liverpool. They do have a massive following outside of Liverpool i accept and many may be like you say Chris. Its like Arsenal fans in the more central and Northern areas. It amuses me when they sort of show a superiority thing that colours their perception of other Clubs vis Arsenal. Ive no idea why but suspect its a trait thats been spawned in the Wenger years, partic post 2006. The local fans teams get really pi---d off about it.

  30. maguiresbridge gooner

    Mar 31, 2014, 17:26 #48687

    Ron, he thinks he's god, he thinks he owns the club, (and he can do what he likes and that's the big problem)but he's not and never was and doesn't and never will. I'm sure he loves keeping every body hanging on, will he, won't he, from the press to the fans, that's giving him his biggest thrill, not to mention the sense of power it's also giving him, and what it's doing for his ego? it's certainly making up for having it severely dented and bruised over the last weeks with results and comments.

  31. Ron

    Mar 31, 2014, 17:19 #48686

    Gaz - Agree with you fully (51714). The trouble will be that Wenger might contrive a situ where he declares hes leaving in say 12 or 24 months. The Board there are likely to agree his gradual departure (they wd sell it to the fans as maintaining stabilty while a seamless transition occurs), thus placing the Club into that void where the players see him as a dead man walking with no portfolio, nor authority that they need to consider to any great extent. Like Rafa was at Chelsea or like Sherwood is now. That leads to a lack of collective passion and commitment on their part and also, Wengers dealings in the transfer market would become even more self constrained and justfified by him saying he doesnt want to compromise his successor.You know what, i reckon that Board there would happiliy accept that while they make money and allow Wenger to slowly take his leave and avoid them having to act like a real Board at a real football Club. The fans could influence things as the Liverpool fans did with Hicks and Gillet but they wont. London Clubs fans in my view arent near as animated, driven or as passionate as are their counterparts in the NW or the Midlands who in my view feel closer to their Clubs and feel the hurt more than do London supporters in the main. Its always been that way and when you think about it, its not hard to deduce why the success levels of Clubs in those areas dwarf whats been achieved in London over the last 120 years. Take Arsenal out of the equation and theres comparitively precious little thats been achieved by London Clubs collectively.

  32. Gaz

    Mar 31, 2014, 17:13 #48685

    Bard-thats my big worry about those who suggest we 'give Wenger the summer to get it right'. We all know that the world cup will offer upa tantilising excuse for not buying properly and we'll end up with a couple of players in the £10-12m bracket. Wenger will announce that the injured players returning are like new signings and despite everones reservations everyone will say its too late now so lets just back him and the side and see what happens. Its the same every year and nothing will ever change under this regime and this manager...

  33. Chris

    Mar 31, 2014, 17:01 #48684

    The worst thing about the possibility of Liverpool winning the league is the fans! I grew up in an area that should be split down the middle Arsenal / Tottenham (with perhaps with a sprinkling of Luton) but in my class there was me, one other Arsenal fan and a solitary Spud. Rest were Liverpool fans. And even int he last few years, I've lost count of the number of Liverpool fans who constantly tell me Arsenal are 'punching above their weight' (even when we've been winning nothing). Give the scousers a sight of the title and they'll become as insufferable as the red Mancs in no time, mark my words!

  34. Gaz

    Mar 31, 2014, 16:40 #48683

    Ron-Most of the lads I know who support Liverpool are good eggs too and I hope they win it for them. When you think about it you'd expect most Arsenal fans to want them to win it too as they're up against those rotten petro money driven Clubs that we-apparently-just can't compete with! On that topic I had to laugh at a conversation I saw on twitter last night. One Arsenal fan suggested that Liverpool have had it real easy as they've had no Cup games to deal with this season. Of course the irony being neither did we last season during our (far easier) run-in yet 'we' never had any problem celebrating that did we! As for Wenger I very much agree he's loving this. Lets also not forget he efectively owns/runs this Club like no other manager before or indeed after will. He'll go when he's ready safe in the knoweldge that an FA cup win will be seen by many at the club and it's supporters as vindication for him signing a new deal. And if he ever does decide to leave you just know there'll be all kinds of protests and on-line polls to get him to change his mind. Sadly we're a long way from seeing this Club change as much as we'd like...

  35. Bard

    Mar 31, 2014, 16:38 #48682

    Ron; Gaz: I think there is a disconnect between the fans and Wenger/Board. How could he be surprised that there is so much discontent about what's happening unless you lived on another planet. The rebellion at the beginning of the season wasn't really about the Villa result it was about the lack of ambition shown in the summer market. Buying Ozil and a string of good results blinded some into believing we had turned a corner but as its turned out it was a lie. Winning the FAC and achieving 4th will provide justification for another Wenger debacle in the summer window and yet more dash for the club.

  36. Ron

    Mar 31, 2014, 16:05 #48680

    Gaz. Very true. Do you also have the feeling that AW is loving the Boards discomfiture over his prevarication? I do. All this, 'im committed etc unless i change my mind' stuff. Its absolutely appalling.Who on earth does he think he is? Im not sure who he thinks he is, but if i was his employer here now in April, I would feel justified in demanding to hear right now his excuses for this season and his answers as to what he feels he can offer the Club going forward (if anything). There really shd be somebody in charge there whos big enough to go to his office and tell him to button ALL of his comments and references to the press about his contract unless and until hes prepared to tell them. Better still, "sign here Wenger while im still daft enough to be of a mind to reluctantly allow you to stay or hike it in May please, ive a business to run and dont have to pander to your whimsy".

  37. Ron

    Mar 31, 2014, 15:51 #48679

    Gaz - Im guessing that the Liverpool suporters are feeling similar to how we did this time in 1998. As you say, when was the last time we felt genuinely excited by much as Arsenal fans? For me, it was perhaps the 2009 FAC Semi v Chelsea and Wenger even managed to deflate that pre game by his mental team selection. I confess im exited for the Liv lads as i know quite a few from up in Liverpool (they are good fans up there as are the Everton fans too - the best in my view). There are even similiarities to our class of 98 (my favourite Wenger team) in the make up of the team and how it plays. There will be some party up there if they win it. I know for a fact that the Liverpool lads by not going 26 years without the title (as the mancs did) will be a cause celeb for the Kop and their fans. Good luck to em i say, though i still feel MC will do it, just a gut feeling though admittedly.

  38. Gaz

    Mar 31, 2014, 15:51 #48678

    More I think about it the less likely I think it is that Wenger will leave. Why? Because our 'board' have absolutely no real passion or real ambition (as far as winning trophies are concerned) for OUR club and will always take the very safest of options and that'll always mean a new deal for Wenger. The pleading you hear from Gazidis RE Wenger to stay is very real and they must be collectively pooping themselves at the thought of having to make any kind of big decision. What makes their task far easier of course is a fan base thats quite frankly more than happy to have their faces flicked (a-la Sherlock) whilst the Club do what they bl*ody well like...

  39. Ron

    Mar 31, 2014, 15:37 #48677

    Hi Chris - Yes, i do see it the same as you i.e it will be pleasing to win the FAC if we can and looked at in isolation, winning it is great, it always is. I love the FAC, dont get me wrong and will always promote its merits. Its just that in context of everything else overall such as the heavy defeats, those performances that youve pointed out too, plus the often insipid performances we ve all seen, winning it would stil be a papering over of the mediocre and perhaps (in the eyes of the Club) justifying carrying on as we are (very worrying). Ending up 4th or even below 4th and winning it, if we could all say when the curtain closes that the team did its utmost, strained every last sinew, the Coach did everything plausible to do better and the Club backed him and the team every step of the way yet we couldnt do better than we did would indeed be fantastic. My fear is that the Cup is though is now a 'get out of gaol free card' for not only Wenger, but the Board and a good few players too.

  40. Bloke in Cardy

    Mar 31, 2014, 15:13 #48676

    I hate ze FA Cup. It lowers the spirit of you could say football in dese country. Well I think as a postman he has a good spirit and can find the boxes when ese doing a walk. Talking of walks, Arteta ....... thinks we are strong enough to go one bettttur next season. I agree yes the spirit .....

  41. Chris

    Mar 31, 2014, 14:21 #48675

    Ron - "The FAC is a nice side issue really, but even thats become a little tainted due to everything thats happened (the thrashings and lack of transfer mkt intent im talking about) this season hasnt it." No it hasn't. If we win it it will be more something to be plased about in the context you describe, especially as we knocked out possible Champs in waiting Liverpool, 4th place rivals Everton (and I s'pose Finsbury Joe's sorry pathetic shower but that obviously wasn't much of an achievement). The trashings don't really matter much to me - I'm just disappointed we couldn't manage a point from the other 3 top four teams away. Unbeaten at home against all the top teams (in fact everyone except Villa) shows what might have been had our away form against the top teams been better.

  42. Gaz

    Mar 31, 2014, 12:53 #48674

    Hi Ron. As you say its just so terribly boring nowadays. I'm just looking forward to the day we have a new manager with different ideas and new things to say. Yeah the board will be the same (I find them as boring as f*ck too!!!) but at least there'll be something different to get your head around. I've just been worn down by the repetitive nature of it all and quite frankly I couldn't care less nowadays. Watched the Liverpool game yesterday (with a load of spurs fans-great fun!) and I was so jealous of watching their fans being really fired up for a big game and NOT knowing the outcome. I mean, when was the last time we did such a thing?...

  43. billthered

    Mar 31, 2014, 11:43 #48673

    Just read Arsene's quote in the press stating once again about our mental strength to keep fighting, well mate when you lose six zip wouldn't you feel like fighting when the score's at three or four not wait two more games it's not like we aint been here before is it.

  44. Ron

    Mar 31, 2014, 11:18 #48672

    On balance is there anything else left to ponder and discuss lads? The result v Everton next week defines the season really.End of. The FAC is a nice side issue really, but even thats become a little tainted due to everything thats happened (the thrashings and lack of transfer mkt intent im talking about) this season hasnt it.There are now quite a few supporters ive spoken to who wont actually be traumatized if we slip from the top 4. Not sure how i feel about that save to say it will likely as much be at least the catalyst for Wengers final decision (much needed and the Club should be pressing him for a definite yes or no instead of allowing him to hedge his bets) and secondly, to accept that perhaps such an event has been on the cards for quite a few years now. I admit to being at the stage where in all honesty im not really sure i care that much anymore, such is the boredom of this scenario being upon us yet again at a seasons end.

  45. The Real Finsbury Joe

    Mar 31, 2014, 11:03 #48671

    Well what a surprise, the wheels have fallen off the wagon in spectacular fashion. When wenger finishes below Liverpool and Everton, all his excuses about resources are gone. An extremely poor season so far, culminating in the Blackadderesque farce against Chelsea....I know, we will do what we always do, they won't be expecting that! A moral coward like wenger will stay on no matter how bad things are going to get. Wenger, Gazidis, Kronke, the AKBs are now the face or an organisation lacking ambition and direction. Even if Wenger did choose to walk, the new guy would have to deal with That squad, and That board. The deluded optimists come out with chicken hearted cliches about darkest hours and dawn, believe me we have seen nothing yet regarding darkest hours, the club are just somewhere on a long term downward trajectory, who knows where it will end, my guess, ultimately lower mid table once players realise what is going on. Happy times ahead for all

  46. Ozzie

    Mar 31, 2014, 10:32 #48670

    If Arsenal don't make the top four I will crack my best bottle of bubbly

  47. Finsbury Joe

    Mar 31, 2014, 9:11 #48669

    If Arsenal don't make the top four, I will run bollicky buff round the Emirates three times with only my Spurs shirt on.

  48. Gary

    Mar 31, 2014, 7:57 #48668

    So thats thursdays next season sorted out.And dont forget Europa league will be included in the ST.Thats why its going up 3%.Gazidis you genius

  49. Sputnik

    Mar 31, 2014, 5:06 #48667

    A good second-half performance at least. On balance, a draw was probably fair and may provide the one crucial point to secure the 4th place trophy again (yippee!). So, 2 clubs both owned by billionaires, and both in theory hoping to win the title. A true illustration of the difference in ambition occurred with the substitutions 5 minutes from the end. Man. City sent on a 20 million pound striker. Arsenal sent on a postman who looked like he had won a competition to play 5 minutes in the premier league.

  50. Joan

    Mar 31, 2014, 4:03 #48666

    Why worry about 4th spot if it only leads to more heartbreak at the last 16? And could we stop mentioning how much Wenger earns - he doesn't "earn" squat! And why would he want more money when he has enough invested to live like a king for the rest of his life? He's like a bloke that has lost his dough at poker but his ego wont quit gracefully til he's won it all back which of course, he cant because he has LOST IT!

  51. maguiresbridge gooner

    Mar 30, 2014, 23:18 #48665

    Bard, yes the GDL likes to insult our intelligence alright it's another thing he's a specialist in, and the funniest thing is, or the saddest the sheep believe him.

  52. UTU

    Mar 30, 2014, 22:44 #48664

    There was a fan Protest before the game outside the Diamond club/Director Entrance. Seems a few fans have had enough over the space bowl. Fans need to make change happen not just be passive and accept continuation failure on the pitch while Kroneke, Wenger and Co enjoy multi million pound salaries and massive profits. Fans need to organise a financial boycott until there a change of ownership/management at the club. This is only way The Arsenal will mount any serious challenge for silverware in the future.

  53. Nice Cardy, where's the Puffa gone?!

    Mar 30, 2014, 22:14 #48663

    Please go and manage France Wenger. Release Arsenal from your managerial bondage. I think the majority of fans have had enough now. You still have some fanatical bunker diehards, but once you're gone they'll see sense. Take your bargain basement. Freebie, crick, combo with you. Under Wenger it's Arsenil!

  54. David the Price is Ian Wright Wright Right!

    Mar 30, 2014, 22:00 #48662

    If you want a player you bid a quid more than the contract clause price. This will get you your man. Torres was also un-buyable but a no nonsense bid did it. Wenger wasn't serious, it was psychological subterfuge. He perceived that in order to get his 4th place trophy Liverpool would be his main challengers so he was attempting to destabilise them. He didn't forsee Man U's collapse, or Everton's ascendency. It has all backfired as Liverpool have consolidated and advanced. His attempts in the transfer market are pathetic and futile. I can only wish for his time at Arsenal to run out sometime soon.

  55. marwoodonthewing

    Mar 30, 2014, 21:27 #48661

    I will take the ahem 'double' of 4th and the cup and would have done so at the beginning of the season. If we achieve this I will do an Edu v Inter milan away style celebration on the window of my local Iceland. Up The Arse.

  56. Ramgun

    Mar 30, 2014, 21:24 #48660

    A better performance but Toure and Silva looked knackered. The former never got out of first gear. I hope those on this site who feel that there are circumstances where Wenger would leave are right. I can see no evidence that he would walk away from £25 million and as Wenger has total contempt for everybody else who states a view that does not equal his, the supporters needs and wants are irrelevant. It is amazing that some of our supporters are still on their knees to someone who regards them as something he just trod in!

  57. Finsbury Mooner

    Mar 30, 2014, 21:16 #48659

    Directions to Suicide Bridge?

  58. cornish gooner

    Mar 30, 2014, 20:41 #48657

    Hope someone out there can help me as I have been having a great deal of trouble with my electricity down here. I buy it from a Company in Scotland and I wonder whether it is very good as my TV screen seemed to be misbehaving during Le Match. Our team seemed to be quite small and slow for much of the contest and looked to be made up of mostly old people - although the Supreme Leader says we are young and mental (not sure about the last bit, but I often have trouble listening to his post match interviews - it's an age problem I think). Can anyone recommend a better quality of electricity? By the way, who was the old gentleman who appeared to be standing by the Arsenal dugout in the second half - he was wearing a suit and a nice cardy I think? As for the football, I thought that French person up front (Le Cocksmith?) wasn't very good and the much younger frenchman ( le facteur?) was a little better as he did seem to "put himself about a bit". Perhaps we should get more Germans for the team although the Leader doesn't seem to play many of the ones we have - are they gerfukken? Would appreciate any help from any true Arsenal fans out there.

  59. KC

    Mar 30, 2014, 20:16 #48656

    A good second half although the striker issue is so clear it's hard to watch. Second half we played with effort and against city that was a good response. Just so annoyed that sort of effort does not travel to away games. I believe wenger stays if we win the cup and get fourth but will walk if it goes wrong so tough if you want change but also want your team to win something. Still angry about cfc away and the naive defensive display still can't believe we conceded two goals so early getting caught on the counter at an away game that was massive. I guess it's wait and see. If wenger goes we then have to hope we get a decent replacement and with this board that's a concern. Would love the athletico manager perhaps he could bring his striker with him -won't hold my breath!

  60. Bard

    Mar 30, 2014, 19:50 #48655

    DW; I know what you mean but its not funny. Jay Rodriquez would cost money and he doesn't like spending a peso. So thats dead in the water. Having the audacity to insult our intelligence by telling us Sanogo is an adequate back up is breathtaking in the extreme. The more I look back over the season the more its possible to see the patterns. This has been the same as the others. Work hard to stay in the top 4. get CL qualification keep the budget tight. Buy Ozil to paper over the cracks and hope we don't get injuries. He never had any intention of challenging for the title ; that was all spin and lies.

  61. Big Andy

    Mar 30, 2014, 19:50 #48654

    Gaz: I totally agree with you Hope the Scoucers win it. And if everton overhaul uss then what will that say for wengers financial doping theory?

  62. Alsace Lorraine de Totteridge

    Mar 30, 2014, 19:45 #48653

    Gaz, why do you assume that there is a logical way to win an arguement about the S.I.F with the Specialist in Failure Knows Brigade? There isn't. Arsenal's last proper manager, Mr George Graham, built the club up to the position where it could end Liverpool's nauseating 20 year domination of the English and European Game. We are about to witness scallymania, if Liverpool, who quite honestly deserve to be the Champions of England, make it to the line. SIF, the Leslie Knighton of the modern era, will need to cease to fulfil his paymasters job description before he departs in ignominy. What that means is that we must fail to qualify for European competition and not win anything this season. We want a rather cold hearted conversation to take place between father and son in which an employment contract is not renewed. For that to happen, we need the players and staff to abandon Arsene Wenger, publicly, obviously and finally. They need to make it clear that he has not only lost the dressing room but the entire staff as well. That will only happen when they feel as humiliated as we do. Since they are all on good money to not do that, it isn't likely. What we will therfore have to endure is for Arsene Wenger to leave us where George Graham left us when the board had the good sense to sack him when he had lost it.It is a death by a thousand cuts, and it seems never ending to me. Vive la liberation.

  63. Gaz

    Mar 30, 2014, 19:17 #48652

    Mentioned this a few weeks back but I hope Liverpool go on and win the league because we'll finally be able to ditch the (AKB) myth that we cant compete with city and chelsea. Yes I know the AKBs will say 'ah, but Liverpool haven't had any cup games to contend with which has made it far easier for them'. My answer to that would be neither did we during our 'glorious' run to fourth last season yet it never stopped our players and fans celebrating like we'd won the Champions league...

  64. DW Thomas

    Mar 30, 2014, 19:15 #48651

    Sorry, Everton has only 24 from top 3 gs...36 from top 6 gs, we have only 38. From their top 6 goal scorers United have 43, City 61, Chelsea 46, Liverpool 76, Southhampton even has 42. Spuds only 28. For a team that prides itself on attacking, we are only 6th best in goals from our top 6 goal scorers. Jay Rodriguez has 15 goals! We could have used someone like him, non? We have Bendtner and Sanogo instead! Funny.

  65. DW Thomas

    Mar 30, 2014, 18:48 #48650

    To go with the sayin,, Arsenal: We don't buy superstars, we make them....Arsenal: We don't win trophies, we throw them away! Liverpool just thumped Tottenham 4-0, so I guess we're still better than the Spuds cause we scored 1 against them! Liverpool top 3 goalscorers 60 goals, City 42, Chelsea 30, Arsenal 26. 11 of those by Ramsey and Theo. So not buying a striker wasn't a total dereliction of duty??!! Even Everton has 26 goals from their top 3! If anyone deserves it its Liverpool! Still we could have nicked it had we a 10-12 goal striker when we needed him!

  66. jjetplane

    Mar 30, 2014, 18:46 #48649

    Two points staring off the page. 1 Wenger does not like Arsenal 2 Wenger does not like football. I would say he was happy to get the first part of his Arsenal career out of the way. The years of competing. He had a bigger plan that involved astute bargaining and selling off seemingly replaceable assets. This has worked perversely well for the faithful who suffer the illusion that one man changed the face of English football. Until that is the assets dwindled to a crock of a striker who had no sense of captaincy being sold to a club in emphatic meltdown. Now the asset cupboard is bare and all that is left of Arsenal is a seasonal outing to a tedious tournament that presently fails on some many levels excepting the propping up of a string of ill-deserving clubs. Wenger looks tired of a project which has got to it's frontier and found itself thwarted by the game's natural resilience to dog-tired backroom philosophy. The game is now one of sheer power and energy and as has been said on here, that leaves no room for the Artetas of the world who do no more than grind peaceably to a football halt. So now he suffers the Merseyside compression - two clubs with young coaches who have something in common. They actually love their clubs and they sure as hell love football. That makes me happy to know things are completely dead for the ordinary masses of great fans who have kept this game alive. You know who we are. Err Cheers.

  67. Bard

    Mar 30, 2014, 18:18 #48648

    What really underlies the furore on this site about matters Wenger is that slowly but surely the club has morphed from one that wanted and did to win trophies into the equivalent of accountants wet dream. The glory, the ambition, its gone and its been replaced by a cult mediocrity in the pursuit of the balance sheet. The club has lost its soul. Watching yesterday I had to pinch myself when I saw us bring on Sanogo as our futile attempt to win the game. No disrespect to the boy but most championship sides have better back up strikers. It was pathetic. Where is Kallstrom? We bought him 3 months ago and he hasn't played a full game yet. He was our sole loan purchase in Jan. Wenger never for one moment tried to force the issue once we found ourselves on top of the league. He's been more than happy to stay in a top 4 place and keep the bucks rolling in. Its scandalous.

  68. jeff wright

    Mar 30, 2014, 18:00 #48647

    The sight of Sanago coming on again at the end to replace Oliver when we needed a goal against City sums up monsieur Wenger's management,or lack of it rather. Yes our performance was a bit more pragmatic than the usual Wenger let's score a MOTD goal of the month nonsense, but City's failure to take advantage of their first half supremacy helped in that regard. We did look better in the second period, but it was the old passing movements with no end result to show for it all,other than to deprive City of the ball. I thought anyway they looked happy enough to take the draw after we had scored. That could prove costly for them at the end of the season with the games running out now.

  69. DW Thomas

    Mar 30, 2014, 17:44 #48646

    You know that thing where if you could invite anyone to dinner, who would you choose? If I had 4 to choose, right now I'd like Steve Bould to be one. Just have some interesting questions for him he could surely shed some light on! For starters, why didn't we buy a striker this season knowing our injuries? This club has a lot to answer for....

  70. maguiresbridge gooner

    Mar 30, 2014, 17:43 #48645

    DW Thomas, i can't believe we were top of the league for so long either, but not in the least surprised where we are now.

  71. DW Thomas

    Mar 30, 2014, 17:27 #48644

    Think about this. We sold our captain and the best striker that season to our bitter rivals and they won the league with him. This season, Liverpool were in a similar position with Suarez and us bidding. They kept him, could win the league, and he is probably player of the season. What a joke this club looks as we are an attacking side know around the world, yet,Giroud is our main striker? There really is no excuse for not getting someone in. Ramsey was great this season, but even Zidane needed players in front of him who,could score. I can't believe we were top for so long yet now may barely finish fourth. That is maybe the biggest damning piece of evidence this season. We can't even hold on to 2nd or 3rd!!! The team responded well yesterday, but how many games must our left back get overrun until Arsene figures it out? And when I saw the subs list yesterday, I couldn't believe it. No one to change a game? No one to bring mettle and vigor to the field. I like the Ox, but he is still too raw. How many goals have our top 3 strikers scored against the title contenders? Depressing times, AGAIN,

  72. AFCasap

    Mar 30, 2014, 16:55 #48643

    wenger is going for his usual target...the cl cheque and failure...this will require as usual fingers crossed, favours and f*** ups from other clubs because he can't even win home games with his handbrake football and no striker, if it doesn't happen he might hand over his job and Europa lg football to someone else to deal with and probably return in a year with an upstairs job and resume his stranglehold

  73. maguiresbridge gooner

    Mar 30, 2014, 16:51 #48642

    Spectrum, yes they just keep rolling off his tongue, and if any fan calls/called him a lunatic or senile their accused by his disciples of showing disrespect.

  74. Bard

    Mar 30, 2014, 15:59 #48641

    A much better performance and I would have taken a draw at the beginning of the game. Looks like the familiar scrap for 4th place is on. Man C have 4 players who have scored 20 goals + this season. Giroud has scored precisely how many and how many have our back up strikers Barry and Sanogo scored, one. Wherever we end up it is obvious we need major reinforcements. Sadly under Wenger that's not going to happen. i'm afraid it will be more of the same. The only thing that might change it is if the unrest at that Emirates gets serious.

  75. maguiresbridge gooner

    Mar 30, 2014, 15:45 #48640

    At least it wasn't another humiliation, a more cautious approach alright have we eventually realised that the gung ho approach doesn't always work especially against the better teams? An even enough game i thought with ourselves doing plenty of passing that was going somewhere for a change instead of side to side, an over all good display that will rebuild the confidence and indeed we could have won it and should have had podolski put the chance away late on, and the cart horse done more than just run around. Three points would have been better than one in our annual pursuit of third or fourth place with scousers right on our tail now, and scousers still to play, and the chavs dropping points but as i said we weren't stuffed and a big improvement. As for restoring pride it will take more than a draw to do that, but there's always the cup.

  76. Hi Berry

    Mar 30, 2014, 15:45 #48639

    N4 - Yes it all seems just a little too cosy doesn't it. The Board and Wenger appear to be one and the same thing and there is definitely a feeling of 'you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours' between them. Wenger's job is to maintain top four and a Champions League place along with not going overboard in the transfer market and the Board's part in it is to shovel £8m into his pocket while the cash rolls in.

  77. jeff wright

    Mar 30, 2014, 15:26 #48638

    There are not a lot of points between us and Everton now either.

  78. Spectrum

    Mar 30, 2014, 15:09 #48637

    Wenger's just made another amazingly stupid statement at his press conference..... “Let’s first see when the season is over,” he said. “If you look back for one year, would you have done something different? If you say to me ‘no’, I say ‘this guy is a complete lunatic’. He'd call someone else "a lunatic" if they refused to do things differently, yet he is doing just that himself ! We joke that he is senile, but maybe there is actual truth to it ? How could anyone be so completely lacking in self awareness to come out with a comment like that ? He truly is out of touch with footballing reality !!!! And he appears to be getting worse..... " In Arsene we rust."

  79. GoonGoonerGone

    Mar 30, 2014, 14:44 #48636

    Wenger Just pack you bag and leave, you impostor. 9 years of mind-numbing "we played with the handbrakes on nonsense" is enough. And while you are at it, take Diaby and Sanogo with you. You can't do tactics for zilch, all the other club like Chelsea, Man City and Liverpool fans want you for eternity like they want Moyes at Utd for ever because they know that both of you have a loser's mentality. You can only play one way; you don't do tactics by your own admission; you now have a rag tag group of players who are leaderless on the bench and on the field and you have the temerity to call Kim Kallstrom a leader! A player who sat mostly on the bench at his Russian club! If that is your idea of a leader, God help us. When Mourinho called you a "specialist in failure" you embarrassingly proved him correct and yes, he is a man who has managed for more than a second in life. Scholes has played at the top and won Champions leagues medals -- which you haven't. He is a tv pundit, and he said what he saw as weaknesses in Arsenal and there are a fair number of us who agree with Scholes, but not you because your petulance and childishness prevents you from seeing another viewpoint. So if you are unhappy with Scholes, why didn't you stop your constant commentating on French television and try to get Arsenal sorted out instead of constantly dithering in the transfer market. Sadly, there are too many fans hypnotised by the myth created by you and the BoD that you are some kind of "hero"; no sir, you are merely a tin god and a dictator. You accuse other teams of financial doping, but what do you call it when Arsenal FC ask fans to pay the highest prices in the England to win a "fourth place trophy". You are more interested in a fat contract and Arsene FC. Sir, if you have any dignity, especially after the 6-3, 6-1, 6-0 which you called an accident, I challenge you to leave Arsenal and allow the Club to progress under a new younger manager who will want Arsenal to progress even if it takes a season or three. You are mentally shot like your team; this team is a splitting image of you and rest assured, the mental strength you talk of is just another delusional soundbite, like the handbrake metaphor you have been feeding us for years. And if fans think there are no fine managers out there, have a look at Klopp, Simeone and even Martinez, doing things on a shoe string budget. I am hoping that Liverpool win the PL just so that they explode this myth that only teams like Chelsea and City with huge financial backing can win the league. It may be argued that Liverpool have Suarez that's why Liverpool are where they are. Absolute nonsense! Barcelona has Messi, Madrid have Ronaldo. Furthermore, look at what Sterling and Sturridge bring to the team together with all the other players who love playing for the manager. Nobody stopped you, Mr Wenger, from getting a top striker as a priority. What did you do when the fans lost their cool after the Vilaa match? You got us a midfielder as a last resort to appease us when the crying need of the team was a great striker. Do you call this sane management? You gave us Sanogo instead! What does this tell about the farcical manner in which you are allowed to run the club? Aren't you the one who said that if you were given 100 million pounds for transfers you would hand the money back. So why don't you hand your exorbitant salary salary back for nine years' failure? Do you think it is a joy to watch Arsenal coming second in the group stages of Cl and then predictably getting knocked out in the last 16? Man Utd have massive revenue too, but they have a poor manager and the Utd team too is reflecting the image of a manager with a loser's mentality; and in spite of this, you Mr Wenger, don't have the balls to take advantage of Utd while the likes of City, Chelsea and City takes Utd to the cleaners. You have you fans who still think you can turn it on like you did pre-2005. You are running on empty - empty ideas, empty tactics, empty mental strength and it is not a joy to watch how you sit on the bench nowadays gripping your knuckles and frowning as if these gestures will give direction to your leaderless players on the field. A man will know when his time is up unless 8 million pieces of silver is too great a temptation!!!

  80. jeff wright

    Mar 30, 2014, 14:29 #48635

    Should have been Swansea goal not City by Flammy of course . Anyway ,my advice is to wait and see how we get on away against Everton before concluding that Wenger has finally sussed out what is wrong . On form there is not a lot between us and Everton .

  81. jeff wright

    Mar 30, 2014, 14:10 #48634

    Just 2 points from the last 9 available for us with two of the games at home says it all really. It was a case of Chesnay getting away with a major cock-up this time otherwise we would have lost 2-1 . It looked to me like City bottled it after we scored,well done Flammy albeit he was responsible for the City goal, this lack of bottle away though must cast doubts on City's title challenge credibility . In some ways there are similar parallels between all of the current top 4 sies ,they are all homers who lack a ruthless away mentality . With City and Chelsea both having to go to Anfield perhaps this swings the pendulum in Suarez and co's favor. Unless spuds throw a spanner in the works today. Smiley should be placed > here.

  82. artetaiswengerslovechild

    Mar 30, 2014, 13:42 #48632

    same old crap from centre of midfield, due to the modern-day version of denilson ( though thankfully at least the captains armband has been taken from him); why does wenger insist on playing a weak, slow, negative player in the centre? no wonder it's all so slooooow! thank god he chose to play flamini, who for all his limitations plays like his life depends on it, and his forward runs made the difference for once. too little too late for this season. big nose must go!S7ZR

  83. Toby

    Mar 30, 2014, 13:33 #48631

    Fourth place is the second best finishing position as second and third are failures with no trophy but fourth place gets you the virtual trophy. An FA cup and a virtual trophy would be a great season and another double for the Gunners.

  84. N4

    Mar 30, 2014, 13:29 #48630

    Berry, you're totally right and you reminded me of another subject we touched on... was when I said does AW or board knows that what they are doing is diving the fan base...!!! The response was they don't care and they are so good at spinning lies and promises after lies and promises...!!!

  85. Hi Berry

    Mar 30, 2014, 13:01 #48629

    N4 - and therein lies the problem that lies at the heart of our problems. The Board are happy with the status quo that sees cash piling in year on year while the fans want success in the form of making a decent fist of challenging for honours at the very least rather than the usual predictable nearly-men. Of course, being able to claim a top four place every year is the stuff of dreams to most football clubs and we are constantly being berated and vilified as not being true Arsenal supporters if we expect more - a very handy line of spin that justifies the club's annual tailing off at this time of year.....'what, fourth place in the most competitive league in the world and in with a chance of winning the FA Cup and you're still moaning?'. Sadly we all know that it would not take too much tweaking in the form of player additions, tactical know-how and management style to take us further up the ladder and still be in with a shout as April comes to a close. Indeed, this season a couple more wins from games we have drawn or lost would have put us right up there still dreaming of glory - Villa and ManU at home spring readily to mind, and a more pragmatic approach to the away games at Man City, Liverpool and Chelsea would have helped add to our points total and reduce our rivals' - which shows just how close we could be with a little more conviction from the Board and a little more pro-activity in the transfer market by the manager. Wenger makes a big play of constantly reminding us we are close to the quality of the top teams and to a certain extent you can't argue with what he says, but deep down we all know things need to move on if we are to mount a truly sustainable challenge on all fronts.

  86. jjetplane

    Mar 30, 2014, 12:39 #48628

    GAZ That is the word. Where Arsenal once had a tag of boring boring .... it was a song fans used to the advantage. They won't be singing it at an Emirates snoozefest anymore the way things are going. A vaguely possible scrape for four and an a possible appearance at Wembley speaks of club doing very well for a few individual bank accounts while turning into an operating concern with safety as it's new motto. No doubt a new contract will be signed but I cannot think of a more tired looking manager in the PL, witness Pulis yesterday after he owned Chelsea for the afternoon. Talking of Chelsea - that was pure sh......g heaven and for reasons never had a nice word for Palace. That's all changed now. How come Arsenal could not have snuck a draw at Chelsea. Boring boring Arsenal. Ask Bobby Pires.

  87. declan burke

    Mar 30, 2014, 12:38 #48627

    ANOTHER FAILURE.

  88. N4

    Mar 30, 2014, 12:26 #48626

    I spoke to an insider at Arsenal and when I asked the question... I was explained everyone else wants AW to go except the board as he makes them money!!!

  89. Gaz

    Mar 30, 2014, 11:14 #48624

    Decent second half performance with TR7 the outstanding performer. From my lift view in the east stand though we were lacking in pace and Giroud was just awful. Guess it was just 'bad luck' we lost our fastest player a day after the window shut...oh, hang on, that wasn't the case at all was it. Heartened by all the rumours about Wenger not re-signing even though I know its inevitable he will. I just want a complete change at the Club as quite frankly the business of supporting Arsenal is kind of boring nowadays..

  90. Ozzie

    Mar 30, 2014, 11:09 #48623

    It would give me some small pleasure to see Liverpool win the thing and deny the two big spenders. Ron when is the football federation going to create an even playing field? In our (Australia) competition with only 2 rounds left any one of SEVEN teams can win the League. Now THAT is what you call COMPETITION! Anyone over there remember those days? Thought not.

  91. Thursday night football

    Mar 30, 2014, 11:08 #48622

    Signs of recovery.Where?We played 3 games this week won none conceded 9 goals.Its the annual wheels come off season.So we have played the top 3 twice, out of the six games we have won one and picked up 5 points out of 18.Pathetic.As for Giroud another dud from the French league.Just 13 league goals as an Arsenal CF is a sad joke. The only signs of recovery will happen if our board wake up and sack the Specialist in Failure.The race for 4th is now out of our hands.Wouldnt it be ironic if we did win our first trophy in 9 years and finished 5th.Liverpool can go top today it just shows what happens when you can keep your best players

  92. Spike

    Mar 30, 2014, 10:48 #48621

    This was a decent enough showing but we have been strong at home all season. The title has been thrown away with the poor showings against Southampton, Swansea, Stoke and a rubbish Manure, not the hammerings away to the big three. Such a shame, as it was there for the taking with the correct organisation and application. Really frustrating to be undone by the same old failings- light squad, poor injury record and going missing against hard working sides in mid table.

  93. Don Froth

    Mar 30, 2014, 10:40 #48620

    Wenger, out of jail again and we'll probably scrape fourth! A new deal and more seasons of this dross to follow!

  94. Ron

    Mar 30, 2014, 9:20 #48619

    They showed a lot of grit and fight in the second half and deserved a draw on balance. For so long though, esp 1st half, the team had a barely recognisable shape. Was more a matter of just getting bodies in and plugging holes. The passing improved slightly 2nd half and made the difference.Decent score, but theres not a great amount to make me feel this squad can raise its bar of this season.

  95. Alsace Lorraine de Totteridge

    Mar 30, 2014, 9:04 #48618

    Alan Hansen was questioning why our heaviest defeats are attended by the ridiculous high line we play. In our early season form we were playing a deep defensive line and making teams come onto us. Defence was the watchword. Slowly however, the specialist in failure has reasserted his "theories" and has torpedoed the team. His failure to learn even extended into the first half of yesterday's game. This is a manager who will not and cannot learn. We simply cannot win with him in charge. His last game in charge will hopefully be at the end of this season.