World Cup Diary Part 15

The Semi Finals



World Cup Diary Part 15


As promised, some thoughts on the semi-finals in the penultimate entry to this diary, the bulk of which has been an account of my trip to the finals. I am now back in the UK watching the coverage on TV with most everyone else, and on that note, I have to say, I did not miss the BBC and ITV punditry whilst I was over there!

Brazil v Germany – What can be said about a truly astonishing semi-final? Well, let’s look at the last forty odd years to get some sense of perspective. The two great Brazil sides in living memory were 1970 and 1982. The reason they are so fondly remembered is that they played wonderful attacking football. However, few could state they bothered too much in terms of defending. In the six matches to win the 1970 World Cup, just the one clean sheet – v England, wouldn’t you know it. The five games in 1982 before elimination in that classic game v Italy saw, once again, a solitary clean sheet – against the might of New Zealand. In 2014, at home, the dream was to win the trophy for a sixth time, and to do it with panache, with style. They were pushing it with only Neymar showing genuine demonstration of how Brazil likes its football played, and losing him, looked pretty much redundant going forward. The defence, even when marshaled by Thiago Silva, looked ropey. Just one clean sheet in the five games leading to the semi-final. Without their captain, the writing was surely on the wall. We didn’t see it because of the belief that the wave of emotion might carry them through. Certainly, even if one believed Germany would win the match, no-one could have predicted the horrible collapse that was witnessed in those gruesome six minutes that saw four goals just before half an hour elapsed. The opener was bad enough for the lack of marking, but what followed was genuinely shocking.

Arsenal fans might have felt they had seen something similar on a couple of occasions already this year, but at least those defeats were not on home turf. One hopes that there are no such repeats for the Gunners next season, but should it happen again, opposition fans could be forgiven for striking up a chorus of ‘It’s Just Like Watching Brazil’. Shorn of their flair player and their on the pitch defensive organizer, the tournament hosts were revealed as having no depth, a house of cards. Individually, there were some big reputations, but as a collective they lacked intelligence, confidence, cohesion and spirit. Germany did a job on them and they had no answers. People were stating Joachim Low’s side could not be a great team because they struggled to beat Algeria. But great teams survive and exploit key moments. I mentioned composure as a key deciding factor a couple of entries back. Few would dispute that Germany possess it. As a unit, they have developed from the habitual nearly men of the past four major tournaments, this has not been overnight phenomenon. I would accept that they are clinical, capable of seizing the moment, but I would also argue that they are not of the quality of the sides of 1974 and 1990 that won this tournament as West Germany. I can understand them being favourites for the final, but I can see them being beaten on the day as well. Needing to play a 36 year old as the spearhead of their attack and continuing to stick with a clearly out of form Mesut Ozil indicates that they are not unbeatable. I think the 7-1 scoreline says more about Brazil than Germany.

As for the hosts, one could only feel sympathy for them. Juninho stated on the BBC, ‘We saw the Germans teach us how to play football,’ which kind of sums up the humiliation. Football means more to this nation than we can conceive back here in the UK. It would be too simplistic to state that it is all it has, but nevertheless, it is hugely significant, a source of extreme pride. You can see this by the numbers of people wearing their national colours on matchdays, and if you have 12 minutes to spare, this short film will give you confirmation. To suffer a heavy defeat in such a manner in a match of this magnitude is a severe blow to their dignity. And it was the manner of the defeat as much as anything. Their football team, the symbol of the nation, humbled. If it had been a narrow defeat, if a decent fist was made of the semi-final, then at least there is some pride. However, now there is merely an open wound, nightmare memories that will never be erased – if they still raise England’s defeat by the USA in the very same Belo Horizonte stadium 64 years after the fact, you can bet your life that 100 years and more from now, they will be showing re-runs of the goals in this one whenever Brazil reach a World Cup semi-final.

The euphoria surrounding Brazil in 2014 always threatened to be a bubble waiting to be burst, and so it proved, although no-one could foresee the manner of this collapse. Ultimately, the players weren’t good enough to carry the mantle and the manager not cute enough to devise a system that could cope with the fixture in the absence of two key men. The house of cards collapsed, and with it, a huge shadow forms over what has been a great tournament up to this point. In football terms, this was brutal. Worse though, are the implications for a nation that wrecklessly gambled £11 billion it could not afford on a finals to bring back good feeling and the glory days. It was good while it lasted, but in the end it was catastrophic. The third place match on Saturday is a strange one. On one level, a chance to restore lost pride, but really, it is meaningless, a game no-one wants to play. In the past, host countries that have played in this match – Italy 1990, South Korea 2002, Germany 2006, have treated it as a celebration. They though, entered the match with some semblance of pride mixed in with the disappointment. Little chance of that on Saturday.

Argentina v Holland – What a contrast. Two teams determined not to lose, and on that level, both performed superbly for 120 minutes. That sure didn’t make for an entertaining spectacle though. Chances were like gold-dust, and Lionel Messi cancelled out of the game until he gave up trying to get past the Dutch defence on his left foot and used his right instead, getting into a fantastic position to pull the ball back from the goal-line. No doubt Germany will attempt to nullify him too. Argentina have never been behind in a match during this tournament, a good habit. However, if Messi cannot find space to operate, they are dull as ditchwater, and offer little, in spite of having some very decent names in their roster. Holland’s plan was all well and good if they were confident of progressing from spot kicks, but when Van Persie had to leave the fray, the option of subbing the keeper for the shootout went with him. You could see from the subsequent Argentinian penalties why Tim Krul was used in the previous round.

Ultimately, Holland scored two goals in the dying moments v Mexico, yet aside from that, did not score in three knockout matches. From their group matches, and the recovery against Mexico, I thought they showed a lot of promise, a very good team in the making. However, ultimately they were undone by their own caution. Perhaps Van Gaal is not quite the genius he once appeared to be. Few expected his team would win the trophy at the outset. I have an idea their odds at the start of the finals may even have been longer than England’s, which is really saying something.

As for Argentina, there is no doubt, based on the knockout round performances, that they will go into the final as underdogs in spite of it being played on South American soil, and the vast majority of the support in the Maracana being behind them (unless Brazilians that have tickets do not sell them, as they will unquestionably be rooting for the Germans). I don’t think too many would argue that Germany have proved the best team in these finals. Sure, they struggled against both Ghana and Algeria, but they have a tendency to do that against lesser known teams. With opposition they find more predictable, they fare much better. The final is a one-off game, and Messi is capable of winning an individual match with his brilliance. However, I think he needs more support than he gets from his current team-mates. Germany are favourites for good reason, and would be worthy winners should they triumph on Sunday. The main hope is that we see a decent match with a few goals, such as the tussle between the two in 1986, as opposed to the war of attrition in 1990 – the two occasions the pair have faced each other in previous World Cup Finals.

I’ll watch the third place match on Saturday out of sheer fascination to see what kind of reaction the Brazil side will get. Whatever they achieve in this game is not going to buy them any forgiveness for what happened on Tuesday. Will the national anthem be belted out with the gusto of previous outings? Is there any semblance of pride still remaining? Although it is a match no-one wants, their best bet now is to front it and try to play with some commitment. Given their psychological state, that isn’t going to be easy, which is one of the reasons it could make for a fascinating encounter. The Dutch will, I am sure, do their bit by fielding all the second stringers and allowing their hosts an easier ride than they might have against the first choice line-up. A thumping Brazil win might at least allow them to exit the field without getting booed off it, although even then, the medal presentation is going to feel a bit strange.

One other thing, the weather over in Rio and especially Sao Paulo yesterday looked somewhat dodgy to say the least, making me realize how fortunate we were in our two weeks out there. We went to places that have seen torrential rain, but conveniently when we were not in the relevant places – Salvador, Recife and Sao Paulo. We had the odd grey day and I recall it absolutely chucking down in Salvador when I was fortunately sat in a bar watching Chile beat Spain. We were never at – or on the way to or from - a stadium when the heavens opened. So an element of good fortune there. Let’s hope the sun is shining when the game kicks off on Sunday.


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  1. MARCUS

    Jul 11, 2014, 18:27 #53675

    I thought the dude at the end of the short film was Ron as there appears to be a 1960's clock-end terrace legend hair do going on.

  2. maguiresbridge gooner

    Jul 11, 2014, 18:25 #53674

    jj, yes we all know what OGL worships, and i'm sure you don't have to be religious or believe in god to think your one, there's enough of his fans worshiping at his feet to make him think that, and in a lot of cases think he already is.

  3. jjetplane

    Jul 11, 2014, 16:22 #53667

    BADARSE 'I'm writing this book because we're all gonna die'. (Kerouac visions of Cody). Not many years back I studied Kerouac in the middle of America with an old friend of Dean Moriarty and nearly went to the other side when my apartment door blew off in a little old storm. I also went out into the Californian wilderness with some vietnam vets and was unaware one afternoon I was close to a sizeable bear. As for suicide - I refer you to Albert Camus and the bravery of it all. On a lighter note I think Dali's Crucifixion was his best work though he himself was a bit of a fascist so think of me more in terms of Max Ernst and the dogma of 'men shall know nothing of this'. Talking of, ourGL has got a perfect get out of jail card for now. Sanchez is a decadently good buy if he is to be schooled in the dark arts by OGL. Now is the time for Wenger to be manager but get some coaches in and let's start with the GL and defence. Oh yeah: ' ....& do they smell/like ****ing hell/over there/over there .....

  4. A Cornish Gooner

    Jul 11, 2014, 15:16 #53662

    BADARSE. Thank you. On a lighter note, I have aquestion for you. Who was the tougher skipper Wolf Larsen or Frank McLintock?

  5. BADARSE

    Jul 11, 2014, 15:09 #53658

    Hello Tinman. Life is sad. I cannot remember an impertinent post at all. You are a good man. Forward Arsenal.

  6. A Cornish Gooner

    Jul 11, 2014, 14:53 #53655

    BADARSE. I was waiting for the usual punch line. That's a sad story. Reminded me of my first impertinent post to you.

  7. Edmund

    Jul 11, 2014, 14:31 #53653

    Nice article Kevin. Saw the short film to recommended and liked it. By the way, three Arsenal players in the German team and Alexis Sanchez. Maybe some reason for cheer next season.

  8. BADARSE

    Jul 11, 2014, 14:19 #53651

    Ah jj Dali, I have a story for you which put you right in my mind's eye buddy. I was working two weeks ago and the nature of the work means I come into people I know only casually, or not at all. I was engrossed in a really rewarding chat with a young lad in his twenties. We returned to hunker down for a while and as we picked our way through the minefield of tables, chairs and belongings my eyes alighted on a book on a table. I stopped and picked it up. I couldn't disguise my delight by exclaiming, 'Jack Kerouac!' (Your presence was all around me at that moment. Then the fellow I had been chatting to owned up to it. I said it was why we had got on so well and he had understood some of my reference points. We stuck together discussing authors, music and life for the next two days. Then he committed suicide.

  9. jjetplane

    Jul 11, 2014, 13:57 #53650

    Still have no leader on the pitch, or off it for that matter. Roll on the new season - I'm up for a giggle. Love the DeeeFense psychies of the Wenger Moonies. Still in the Bunker - come what May! Sanchez looks real kool and also someone who shines in a tight unit where everyone has a role to play. Is OGL really committed to 'this project'? Can he exert football contol in opposition to last season's chicken play? Will he wear a striped puffa? Is Ozil a puma or just a little pussy? See you at christmas. MACGUIRE OGL is very religious. Like any adopted yankee he worships at the altar of Wonga ..

  10. Pundit

    Jul 11, 2014, 13:53 #53649

    That means with the cesc and vela money and the money saved by not renewing the contrcts of the 11 players that no-one wanted to buy off us Arsene is on zero net spend again even after sanchez, you gotta hand it to him the man is a genius!

  11. What was the point in leaving Highbury?

    Jul 11, 2014, 13:18 #53648

    Great signing that really excites me. Still think we are short up top though as hes more of a wide player. Bring in a couple more and we may have a chance. Would love to see Khadera (probaly spelt wrong) from Madrid, a top keeper and a CB. Loads of options across midfield now. I wouldnt let anyone go as we now have a bench that can make an impact. Also our terrible injury list means we need loads of players anyway.

  12. jeff wright

    Jul 11, 2014, 12:45 #53647

    Hugo is obviously no fool trying to replace Suarez at Liverpool would have been impossible he knows that he is not in that class. Indeed if he were then he would still be at Barca instead of having been replaced by Suarez . Never mind though Hugo you only have Sanago to better at AFC ! Joking aside, albeit many a true word is spoken in jest, Sanchez could be a good signing if he can translate his la liga form to the very different Prem ,another club not a million miles away from the Emirates stadium also paid 30m for a striker from la liga and as they say the rest is history. Anyway, good luck to Hugo he can chill out in London now in his spare time and if he bangs in a few goals early doors become a cult figure at the Emirates,it doesn't take much these days to become one.Legends though are much rarer to see ,none of the recent players ,including Fabregas, became one.

  13. BADARSE

    Jul 11, 2014, 12:21 #53645

    Think Arsene is an atheist maguiresbridge, so he didn't imagine he was god-or do you mean Bergy? In his wildest erotic fantasies he may imagine he is Joan of Arc, or when the power gland kicks in it could be Angela Merkel, now there's a thought. I'd still stand alongside him, even if I felt the need to twang his suspender elastic occasionally. You type with a great voice julesd, mind even my off-key North Bank trained voice is melodic when I post. Happiness!

  14. maguiresbridge gooner

    Jul 11, 2014, 11:47 #53644

    There's a team who play in red in north London who used to do what the Germans did to Brasilteams on a regular basis and oh how we loved it, until the manager suddenly thought he was God and knew better, and dreampt up some silly philosophy and start doing it differently and we know where that got us.

  15. jeff wright

    Jul 11, 2014, 11:43 #53643

    Should be Liverpool for 4th place not Everton, I see 5 teams playing for the top 4 places next season City,Chelsea,United Arsenal ,Liverpool. I can't see Wenger outgunning Mourinho, Pell and the Dutchman,so an 'exciting' battle with Rodgers for 4th spot looks more realistic than a title bid. Julesd I can't wait to see who the new unknown gem that Wenger has discovered is .Yawn.

  16. Charlie

    Jul 11, 2014, 11:34 #53642

    Can't wait for the new season to start now.This world cup although a good filler just ain't up to watching The Arsenal. A couple more good signings and we're well on the way. Victims going backwards after losing best player. United will be playing a defensive hoof-ball game under a clueless manager will only slightly improve, Chelsea and City picking up every-bodies scraps as usual seem far too uninteresting to worry about.Only the officials to worry about now.Good times ahead.

  17. jeff wright

    Jul 11, 2014, 11:29 #53641

    Yes money is being spent now but EVERYONE else is doing it. The type of players bought so far by Wenger are not going to produce that mega leap required to go from 4th to first place in the league - or in Europe from first KO round to a final. Stan is doing what supporters of his clubs in the good old US of A are only too familiar with ,mainlining the status quo, or staying a place ahead of Everton in 4th if you like to keep the CL TV cash flowing in .However, it's not just about money and players is it ? The manager's ability to motivate players his coaching and tactics ,team selections,medical regime ,etc, also play a part and I can't see any sign whatsoever that Wenger is for changing. He should have done the decent thing and left after the FAC win but his arrogance and vanity would not allow him to do that, the 8m a year amounting to 24m for the 3 seasons he signed on for no doubt played a large part in his decision ,if not then why was he squabbling over signing a new deal when he should have set an example by taking a pay cut , after all he is supposedly a man of principle. And if you believe that then you will believe anything.

  18. julesd

    Jul 11, 2014, 11:27 #53640

    Go back to sleep Jeff, we'll wake you when the next transfer takes place.

  19. Ozzie

    Jul 11, 2014, 11:04 #53639

    Hi fellas, cant believe some of you would let Walcott go. Who would you have in his spot? Prefer to see Jenkinson, Arteta, Diaby and Rosicky all go and Podolski at a push but not much cash value there I suppose. Welcome Alexis and may the goons not expect too much too soon a la Ozil.

  20. Chris

    Jul 11, 2014, 10:59 #53638

    Ron - Have we not already got £12m for Vela and £5m from Fabregas' move this window? Plus another £15m for Campbell is in the offing. That's £32m for you there without losing any of the squad! What's more, I'd take issue with the suggestion that Arsenal will balance the books - as last summer demonstrated, we've moved into an era of net transfer spend. This is something that I'm sure we'll all be able to see in the coming months and years....

  21. jeff wright

    Jul 11, 2014, 10:47 #53637

    Yawn.

  22. julesd

    Jul 11, 2014, 10:36 #53635

    So there was some real benefit for Arsene going to the WC, as apparently he was able to talk face to face with Sanchez about him joining Arsenal. His trip obviously wasn't all about French TV work, playing on the beaches or exploring the rain forests for new talent. I'm so happy I could sing: Arsene Wengers magic, he wears a magic hat, and when he saw Sanchez, he said I'm having that....ooooohh, Arsene Wengers magic

  23. BADARSE

    Jul 11, 2014, 9:37 #53630

    Would not disagree with the aspect of the outgoings Ron, like SKG would not welcome it but would readily accept if the replacement was a correct one. Yes well done to you Kevin, as expressed the WC isn't my bag but the diary reminds me of non-football-related foreign meanderings I've made in the past. A delight to read.

  24. Seven Kings Gooner

    Jul 11, 2014, 9:10 #53629

    Ron : Good point about balancing the books, think we could lose Podolski and Cazorla. For a slightly longer shot, Walcott to Liverpool - always felt he would do well playing wide under Rodgers. Don't want to see it happen but if it bought in a solid DM I think on balance it would be worth it. A final point: well done to our Gooner Editor, some really great posts Kev!

  25. Charlie

    Jul 11, 2014, 8:53 #53628

    The new kit apparently comes in XXXL pygmy size so Peter,Jeff and DW should be well sorted.

  26. Ron

    Jul 11, 2014, 8:02 #53627

    The delirium of a signing makes its ripples felt in the normally calm waters of AFC. Thinking forwards a little, those who celebrate ought to give some mind to how AFC will balance its books. Theres not a chance that AFC are spending this money without an eye on recouping it via sales. Be pleased yes, but also steel yourselves. Those who see much merit in such as Cazorla and Walcott (many of us see not much use in either and have said so many times)may have to grit your teeth to wave bye bye to both soon i feel. For me, both being sold would be perfectly acceptable in return for the type of solid midfielder, left back and goal keeper the Club still so badly needs. Word on Debuchy from a few work links of mine in the North East is that they see him up there as possibly a good player under a better Coach but a bit of a liability, a tryer but prone to lose concentration.

  27. BADARSE

    Jul 11, 2014, 7:18 #53626

    Good morning gentlefolk. So what a start to a weekend, we get Alexis Sanchez and new strips. Have said before that I stay outside the rumours/hyped up 'media-speak' of transfer talk. I quietly listen to what's being said when I stumble across info, (people are often telling me stuff as if it's fact, which is either unconfirmed or wild speculation), I just acknowledge them, even close friends or family. They know how I will react but just feel the need to say something, which is quite normal I suppose. Sanchez was a proposition which did a circuit and then some. It is then that I perk up and take interest, hence my plaintive plea on here the other day as the likelihood gained momentum. Am very pleased, welcome to AFC number 17. That's one for you to come back to 24601, ahh, blue-shirted ice creamer lickers in Brighton. The red and white kit is pretty good-would have preferred more red on the cuffs and not hooped socks but that is just being picky. By contrast the blue and yellow looks at early glances as the best combination ever. I really like this strip and the hooped socks work well with it. The other strip I shall ignore unless one passes me in the street, then the recipient gets a smile and a fist on my left breast. Can't see the club selling many of those, but I may be wrong. Now, on with the job of purchasing new blood.

  28. unchives

    Jul 11, 2014, 0:39 #53625

    Great Ad by Puma.Fab Kits, Superb signing....more of the same please. Looking forward to the season now. GOONERS!

  29. Th14afc

    Jul 11, 2014, 0:14 #53624

    Alexis Sanchez...wow mega signing!!now for more please Wenger!

  30. lee afc

    Jul 10, 2014, 22:58 #53623

    Thank you Mr Wenger.......world class striker in the way of Sanchez....top quality right back now on his way....new footie shirt......Germany in the final....we are the last domestic team to win a trophy....spuds still rubbish and Jeff wright still talking Shiite.....oooo too beeeee aaaa gooooonaaaaaaa

  31. BADARSE

    Jul 10, 2014, 22:28 #53622

    I asked for a Big Raddy and said Alexis Sanchez would do-thank you. Now we begin. New kit unveiled tonight.

  32. Ron

    Jul 10, 2014, 22:19 #53621

    Bard - Yes , i hope Sanchez is a good signing. Id still like to see that solid middle man though. Its the Cricket i miss with Sky. Very good coverage on it i have to say. Unlike with the footie they seem a little more discerning about who they have as pundits or at least they used to be.

  33. Bard

    Jul 10, 2014, 20:32 #53619

    Ron: no mate that's not my game. We don't always see things précisely the same way but broadly speaking I think we' re on the same page. I share your feelings about Sky but can't help myself. I'm mad about rugby and cycling. It's too much to give up at this stage of my life. I see we have signed Sanchez, hats off to the much maligned transfer team. Hope it's the beginning.

  34. jjetplane

    Jul 10, 2014, 20:16 #53618

    Ummmm Sanchez passes medical and could play with Walnutt with Ozil and Ramsay which dare we say sounds most impressive. That this remotely lets OGL off the hook because shock horror he has signed someone in July is another matter. Still need an enforcer and hopefully Arteta is off to Italy and a proper goal keeper. So far, so good, but tactically we need the right fit per game and that is where OGL better shape up. personally think he, like Scholari has been passed by and a younger, more energetic coach would suit these players better. Would expect few blunders before October with all fit and expect and demand better from all at Arsenal. So get the **** on it with it! And Hello Alex and no rooming with Oliver (now destined for suitable bit parts). ps If the Germans win then Muller has my vote has 'the future of football'. Imagine him at Arsenal (silly) like Messi he will see out his days with the boyhood club. Talking of Germans the 'BFG' has become a major concern and certainly was a weak link in the German set up. Anyway - up the ****ing gunners!

  35. Pundit

    Jul 10, 2014, 20:12 #53617

    OK great we've bought a shiny new winger, anyone know when we're going to buy a proper quality centre forward?

  36. Charlie

    Jul 10, 2014, 19:40 #53616

    Was that Jeff Wright in the red shirt at the end of that short film.

  37. Roy

    Jul 10, 2014, 18:38 #53615

    Scolari wouldn't be the first manager to take a huge gamble and come unstuck in a big way in a big game ( remind you of anyone ? ). Without his two star men, his tactic of playing 3 up behind the striker and telling them to just go for it in an effort to get the first goal, was foolhardy to say the least. Fred is awful and Hulk little better, and a team of Germany's quality won't need a second invitation to exploit the gaps. But I am staggered that when the plan bombed, he didn't try to consolidate at 2-0 as this game is now what he'll be remembered for rather than winning the world cup as he did. What it did do of course, was cut out the potential for any dodgy refereeing in favour of the hosts had the game been tighter, which is something I was dreading as they had been fortunate to get this far. As for the final, the Germans certainly won't get the same kind of space and time afforded to them but I hope they win as they deserve it more and I don't like the Argies, even though they were my pre- tournament tip. Penalties wouldn't be a huge surprise, would it ? Would appear that Debuchy and Sanchez are on the way. Bender to patrol in front of BFG wouldn't go amiss, either ! COYG.

  38. DW Thomas

    Jul 10, 2014, 16:03 #53613

    Sure Brazil's loss was abysmal. Yet, how would Argentina fare without Messi, the Dutch without Robben, or Columbia without Rodriguez? Dante is a known professional who plays for on elf the best clubs in Europe. Marcelo for the current CL champs. They have good players, but were too run and gun against the Germans. Especially after their second goal, Brazil should have closed shop, defend and counter. They looked uninterested in marking from the get go. Looking back, missing Neymar and Silva was huge! Perhaps Silva more. But, I think the pressure sucked put the rational thought. And Scolari had no answer. It looked early second half that they might score a few to make the score line a little better. But, Neuer was again amazing. He has been their best player, and Muller. Hulk I thought was terrible. And Luiz showed why he is not to be trusted as a center back without someone like Silva to reign him in. Sad game really. Despite the goals, I found it like the 8-2 or 6-1 Arsenal drubbings. It left a bad taste. I grew up watching a lot of German league ball and rooting for France. The semis of 82 and 86 were classics. Many others memorable. Both this years were anticlimactic. Hope the final is much better. Hope for a classic back and forth battle of skill and some goals. Most likely it will be a repeat of the Arg. vs. the Dutch. Please no penalties!!! Why not have free kicks instead of penalties? Full teams to defend each other, best of 5! That would be more interesting. Too many big titles or games have been decided by a method of more chance than skill.

  39. Ron

    Jul 10, 2014, 15:28 #53611

    Hi Bard - Ha. Bra do have likenesses to us as you say. i think they were worse to be honest, dare i say it! Ive not subscribed to Sky for 3 years, coming up 4 mate. Admit though that at times i miss it being in my lounge when needed, when not fancying popping to the local to catch a game, though doing that is better i reckon mate.Yet, when i do see Sky or BT (isn't their coverage just appalling?)i always feel vindicated in dumping them. So, perversely, catching some SKY is good for me if you get my drift. What i used to give to SKY gets me a year in a great gym/leisure centre and pool anyway. Bard - Not one word from you blasting my Brazil victors conspiracy theory view i note, now in shreds and tatters? Here still to be shot down mate, but thanks anyway.

  40. Bard

    Jul 10, 2014, 15:11 #53610

    Second that Ron. Great posts about the World Cup Kev. I've been underwhelmed by this WC. Germany's demolition of Brazil was a highlight but only because there was so much dross before it. Brazil looked Iike us on a bad day last season, clueless and disorganised. The Sanchez deal excites me and am hoping it will be a springboard to better other signings. Not really bothered about Sky Ron because I always watch matches with the sound off! You should try it.

  41. Ron

    Jul 10, 2014, 14:08 #53605

    Hi Kev - Youve done great with your WC postings. Well done to you. Argentina to win it now for me. Suspect that Germany are a bit of an illusion, but my tipster record isnt good mate! Another dreary war of attrition in the making i suspect. The WC (if nothing else) has at last laid to rest the long held tiresome myth that Samba footie lives. Bra will benefit from that as will football on the whole. Its done nothing for England. Everybody knows nothing changes here and isn't likely to. For sure, English arrogance lives on doesn't it. Another PL season of kick and rush is upon us soon and the flaws will soon be subsumed as SKY and Co celebrate the 'best league in the World' and ram it forcefully down the throats of those who will listen and of those who do their best to ignore them too! All the best fella and thanks for your efforts.