Three days to sort out the season

Online Ed: Newcastle away – a win and a warning



Three days to sort out the season


The three points secured at St James’ Park were valuable for Arsenal going into the international break. Seven points out of 12 looks a lot better than four or five. However, more valuable, one hopes is the warning it delivered to Arsene Wenger about the consequences of not buying a goalscorer before the transfer deadline on Tuesday evening. There is no question the club have the money to buy ‘super quality’, and a good enough bid can secure the needed striker.

The performance against Newcastle demonstrated that the club need to improve in this department. With neither of the first choice options injured, the Gunners have registered three goals in total over 360 minutes of football. Leaders Manchester City, playing a similar level of opposition, have netted ten.

A consensus developed amongst Arsenal fans in the aftermath of the Newcastle win that a better forward is needed. This was because, in spite of the win, Wenger’s team were playing against ten men for over 70 minutes, but given the opportunity to fill their boots and win comfortably, rarely threatened Tim Krul’s goal. The winner itself followed two saved shots and required a deflection to go in.

Don’t get me wrong. A win is a win and in isolation, there is no reason to criticize the team for establishing a lead and then controlling the game. However, sometimes you have to look at the bigger picture. It tells us that Walcott is not going to convert enough chances and that Giroud is inconsistent. Arsenal, to challenge credibly, need better.

There was too much of what used to be called ‘fannying around the area’ and not enough taking the bull by the horns and testing the keeper from range with the possibility of someone taking advantage of any rebound. On the rare occasions that Newcastle came forward in any numbers, breaks were wasted with poor passes, or simply by not releasing the ball in time to make the killer pass.

This was a game against a Newcastle side that it is obvious are going to be fighting a relegation battle for most of the season. Once down to ten men, Arsenal should have gone for the jugular. Instead it took almost half the game to actually get into the lead. That the home side were receiving multiple yellow cards should have made the visitors’ task that much easier.

I had not heard before the game that Mesut Ozil was injured, although I am certain that will be the club line even if he was dropped. Would he have made a difference? Who knows. Ramsey played in his position, with the Ox drafted into the starting eleven, although his influence on the game was not what might have been hoped for. Koscielny was passed fit to partner Gabriel. The whole back four had a good game, although in truth, were not called upon too often.

Credit to referee Andre Marriner for not indulging the cynical tactics of Steve McLaren’s team. A weaker ref would have allowed the carded transgressors a foul each before showing yellow. As a consequence, a football game broke out before Mitrovic’s dismissal. After that, Newcastle played it understandably cautious until the opening goal, and even after that, lacked the belief to take chances and leave themselves too exposed.

Even so, with a better front man, Arsenal could have won this game by a couple more goals. I’ll happily take a 1-0 win for the remaining 34 matches of this campaign, but in reality, I can see many fixtures when they will fire blanks or one goal will not be enough for victory.

Arsenal have at least £65 million they can spare to pay a new arrival over £200k a week and a transfer fee of over £50 million. Would the club be better served if that money remains in the bank? It’s difficult to see how. How genuinely ambitious are the club these days? We’ll find out soon enough.

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  1. Ron

    Sep 02, 2015, 12:30 #75188

    Hi Westie - he has. The roguish charm carries him a long way in todays sports media doesn't it. I met him briefly a time or two when he had that spell at Walsall as Manager years back. He was much liked there. though smiles and raised eyebrows were evident when his management skills were mentioned! Made for media isn't he.

  2. Westlower

    Sep 02, 2015, 12:12 #75182

    @Ron, He's certainly got his life back on track because he was down on his knees at the low point of his life. Good luck to him.

  3. jjetplane

    Sep 02, 2015, 12:10 #75180

    scraping around in the L Ron Hubbard again BADARse and still miss the point completely as it is you who are locked into a stream of O-level existentialism as persieved by Reg Varney on peyote beans on toast. On to WESTIE who reckons 'cause the perfectly inane Torygraph says something it must be true. Who does not know how to read the media now? Still think Cavani should have been bought using also the value on Stan's ranch for his wages. It would be perfect for the circus that no one wants to go to. MIKE if Arsene had bought the MAnky kid who pissed all over Arsenal they could have got shot of Wally and had the kid and Sanchez cutting in. That should have been in motion when Arsenal were humilated by Monaco. Again, Arsene's 'pension and top-ups' package takes precedence over everything. JAMErsON and JulesD would be a great sit com. Him on the sofa and 'her in the kitchen' .... Yak yak!

  4. Westlower

    Sep 02, 2015, 11:29 #75169

    The Telegraph reported today that Arsenal had a £50m transfer budget not the £200m Piers Morgan is mischievously touting. As Piers wasn't born in Holloway Road his opinion is worthless. Paul Merson reckoned we should have bid £80m for Benzema, who RM didn't want to sell & who didn't want to leave RM. Apparently any player can be bought in the minds of some - you just keep throwing money at a problem until it goes away, that's the theory anyway. You're already £30m in the red Merse, now what? Good job you're not in charge of the accounts department or any department at AFC. Did you work at Forest, Leeds or Portsmouth in a previous life? The extra money pumped into football is creating hysteria during the transfer window. It's now a contest of who can spend the most to get the media & fans on their side. Telegraph Chief Sports writer Paul Hayward makes the point that the top clubs have lumbered to the tipping point where infinite wealth brings as much instability as power. Harry Redknapp commended Arsenal on having a settled squad on the radio this morning & ventured that no panic buying was needed. Not sure if Harry was born in the Holloway Road but he was a Gooner in his younger days.

  5. Made Up Stat

    Sep 02, 2015, 10:22 #75157

    Jamieson - as said to you before: Giroud said the other day Arsenal needed new players and signing Benzema would have been 'Good '. Is he a WOB?

  6. Exeter Gunner

    Sep 02, 2015, 9:58 #75156

    Only one team in the top 5 leagues didn’t sign a single outfield player, and it's simply not credible that over an entire summer no one better in any position could be found than AFC have currently got, but the disappointment conveyed by some that the squad hasn't been improved is portrayed by the AKBs as some kind of extreme 'I want it now' toddler tantrum. But some go further. It is apparently a positive that no one has signed. For years we've had players - such as Arsenal players after Ozil and Sanchez were bought - saying what a boost it is to have new faces in the squad. Now we're told that doing nothing gives that fillip. Apparently it is the lack of competition for their place that will cause some to up their game. In real world, the message that has been sent to the players is: "You're fine as you are, we expect no more than you already deliver".

  7. Badarse

    Sep 02, 2015, 9:37 #75155

    I've just gotta get a message to you, 'Hold on! Hold on!' It ain't fair! Why can't we do what Merson says and buy everyone what we need, and we could then beat everyone what we play and then I would be a winner too? Always loved the Merse's insight, he may have the I.Q of a carrier bag, but it is a 'Bag for Life' sized one! I could walk about with me new kit shirt on proudly puffing out me belly, displaying the badge-er, I know I hate the Armoury, and the badge, and new shirts and stuff but it would be different then. I could go to Arsenal-I've got an A-Z-and rub shoulders with people like jj, oh hang on he never goes, but I could practise walking like Clint Eastwood, got to work on that it still looks a bit like Norman Wisdom's walk. Oh how my manhood would extend. Then I could say to the smug, smart-Arsenaled AKBs, 'Now who's got ego on the face?' That would be a good one to say, if I can remember it.

  8. Westlower

    Sep 02, 2015, 8:53 #75154

    Can understand Wengers reluctance to pay £50m for a player rated inferior to Benzema. RVP, a far better player than Cavani, was sold at a similar age for £22m. Cavani's goal scoring record is similar to Giroud who cost only £9.6m. I'm more disappointed that Southampton wouldn't sell Wanyama.

  9. Mathew

    Sep 02, 2015, 8:20 #75153

    Feeling conned by Wenger again, I hope he has a backup plan !

  10. Mike

    Sep 02, 2015, 8:01 #75152

    All I can say 36 million for Martial with 52 first class games under his belt- you couldn't make that up - wonder what would have happened if we had bought him for that?

  11. Bard

    Sep 02, 2015, 7:06 #75151

    The disciples are out in force. Not buying anyone is a triumph supposedly. Cant quite fathom the logic in that but there you go. Couldnt care less whether we bought or not as it wont make much difference either way. Most of the enlightened already knew we werent serious about competing. The battle for 4th spot is now officially on.

  12. Mark from Aylesbury

    Sep 02, 2015, 7:05 #75150

    Interesting to see what happens in January window. If very little activity might suggest something going on at ownership. Pure speculation of course.

  13. Julesd

    Sep 02, 2015, 5:38 #75149

    Oh dear! A message to all you WOBs..yawn yawn, Oh sorry must have dropped off there, maybe because I've heard all this stomach rumbling before, but its alright as Merson is now on your case, great money man he is.

  14. Ozzie

    Sep 02, 2015, 3:06 #75148

    Arsenal news and transfer rumours as it happened................................................... :) Now for the next game..

  15. Ozzie

    Sep 02, 2015, 2:46 #75147

    Are we saving up all our bikkies for a double swoop on Messi & Bale next year? That must be it! It has to be, after all, we have a master tactician at the helm......don't we? :)

  16. Nozzer

    Sep 02, 2015, 0:14 #75146

    The only club in the premier league not too add an outfield player. Its mismanagement of the highest order. Cech is a welcome addition and he is far better than what we have. So surely there is a striker out there who is better than Giroud. It must be great being an Arsenal scout, travel the world recommend players that we will never sign. I predict that Kroenke will be taking some cash out for his topline consultancy skills. Aliko Dangote, please buy the club!!!!!!

  17. jjetplane

    Sep 02, 2015, 0:10 #75145

    The AKB lunatics have taken over the Emirates. Except for Westie who lives too far away ans baddie ditto .... But they are focused on the next game but by what means only the ghost of L Ron Hubbard could say. I wish he had got in Cavani with all that hair. Yhe team needs more hair. perhaps Wally could grow a beard to his knees and join Ozil in one of those deep moments before going missing on the pitch. By the way - Gary's brother Phil reckons the Mankies new lad is the Balearics and the Nevilles are usually right on player's abilities. I mean look at Carzola, Ozil, and perhaps even Sanchez. They must be thinking can't do all that stuff again. Carzola only did it against Citeh away and he is still feeling it. Still - best to perhaps focusing on the next decade if you are hoping for a respectable trophy that goes with the most expensive seats in the world. Forget the national opera and a new Puccini production. Even WEStIE bows down to those prices and hence he has not been there for a decade. how can 'fans' have so much passion for something they don't watch? .....

  18. mbg

    Sep 01, 2015, 23:52 #75144

    So much for your heading Kev, you might want to extend that, and not temporarily either, but until this excuse for a manager that we have leaves because it will be the only way anything will be sorted.

  19. John Gage

    Sep 01, 2015, 23:11 #75143

    What is baffling for me is that it's one thing to say that we're no world class strikers available but are you telling me there was no defensive midfielder better than Flamini available? It seems very difficult to believe.

  20. Gooner 89

    Sep 01, 2015, 22:59 #75142

    I'm no longer surprised by the deluded one. Doesn't mean he isn't washed up, past it, over the hill and making our club a joke. 4 games this season. 3 goals, 2 of them own goals. No goals in two home games and only scored at home once in the last six. I doubt if you went back over the results in the clubs history you would find many, if any times with such a dire run. Wenger out

  21. mbg

    Sep 01, 2015, 22:51 #75141

    MARCUS, we've been a laughing stock for years now mate along with, and thanks to, this past it manager we have, and there would have been no money spent at all on no one if Cech hadn't fallen into his lap, or the special one had got his way, we'd still be as bad as ever in keeper department.

  22. Nick T

    Sep 01, 2015, 22:31 #75140

    There really are no excuses are there? We're a massive club in the biggest city in europe with a squad thats 'almost there', a cool 70m (minimum id suggest) sitting in the bank and 3-4 months to get our business done. Its obvious what we need and only one of two things can be deduced from this transfer window 1. Wenger himself recognises what we need and tried to make it happen but failed - sack whoever is in charge of negotiations and/or take the responsibilty of getting deals over the line COMPLETELY away from Wenger 2. He thinks were fine as we are in which case he's lost it. No matter whether you think its right or wrong you can guarentee that the pressure to perform in the next few games, inlcuding chavs and scum away and the mancs at home, has now been ramped up big time and we might only be a couple of weeks away from scenes like wba/stoke away last season. Such a shame, Cech was a great start but I feel our balloon's been burst - reminds me of January 2014 when we were right up there....and signed Kallstrom!!! On the plus side you can be sure the official website will come out with a couple of crackers from Feo and chums in the next few days saying how he feels this is the best squad since Brazil 1970 and that we can really compete for the title this season!! Twat

  23. mbg

    Sep 01, 2015, 22:29 #75139

    It couldn't have worked out any better for TOF with an international break, by the time he sneaks back into London Colney, all will be forgotten (again)and his followers will still be bowing and we'll still be putting up with the embarrassments, you know something we deserve him.

  24. Badarse

    Sep 01, 2015, 22:26 #75138

    Exeter I certainly do not have control over the next game either, as you point out, but they are different aspects. The next game will take place and I remain focussed on it and it's outcome. Buying and selling is nebulous, and may or may not occur, but it's the speculative conjecture I shy away from, and am happier without the angst. I happen to think that we, as a club do settle. However I also think that the step up regarding investment of new players is immense, if we are looking to give the two main money clubs a real run for their money. It is something I feel is not in the current remit of the club, and have felt this way for a long time. Surrender, or pragmatism? I don't surrender, so there is a clue for you. It's a time for going forward, whether you want to roll up your sleeves, your trouser legs, or roll up the aisle it's OK by me. Whatever gets you through the night. JC for PM!

  25. goonercolesyboy

    Sep 01, 2015, 22:24 #75137

    Marcus, take some blood pressure pills mate, you ranting is neither here nor there. So what if other clubs have sacked their managers after winning seasons. The sack culture is a modern phenomena of the I want it now whatever it takes culture. This is the squad we have, I wrote on here that we could have used another player or two, but no one was signed. Not attending games isn't the way either, a pointless exercise. This is the squad we have. If Man Utd spend £36m on a 19 year old who has played 52 games then that tells you all you need to know. The players of the highest quality were not available in any positions. If they were, and their clubs had released them from their contracts then there would have been more movement. But this isn't fantasy football and I want this player or that player and they are signed. The desired managers are not available either, all under contract on on gardening leave. The current manager is here at least until next season, so all the words on here aren't going to make a blind bit of difference to who is bought and or sold. The squad now is what we have.

  26. King jeremy

    Sep 01, 2015, 22:05 #75136

    Another window come and gone and Wenger again sits on his hands showing his lack of ambition to drive this club upwards. Still, look on the bright side - it's more money for his replacement to spend.

  27. Th14afc

    Sep 01, 2015, 21:58 #75135

    Very disappointing and I'm a fan of Wenger but I'm very disappointed with this transfer window

  28. Bard

    Sep 01, 2015, 21:48 #75134

    Westie I admire youre front mate. You are the AKBs black knight. How do you know these strikers, midfielders, defenders were unavailable ? How do you know how much we may have offered. How do you know we even made an attempt to sign anyone. You don't. Im sure it will be a massive relief to our substandard and under performing squad and will ensure we see plenty of abject lacklustre performances as the season gets going.

  29. Man United Killer

    Sep 01, 2015, 21:15 #75133

    What hurts the most is that most of us disappointed folks will just turn around and attend games-giving our money back to these snake oil merchants...The only language they understand is money! Stop attending games!

  30. Jason B

    Sep 01, 2015, 21:08 #75132

    Hate to say I told you so.We had a very limited budget for this year and every penny of it was spent on Petr Cech.The likes of Campbell,Rosicky,Flamini and Wiltshire need to be moved on and replaced.Especially Wilshere who can't seem to play for 5 minutes without breaking down.

  31. Westlower

    Sep 01, 2015, 20:51 #75131

    I'll state the obvious by saying that not one top line striker became available in this transfer window. Their current clubs are clinging on to them like gold dust. Man U huffed & puffed & had to settle for a kid who's only played 52 games. Chelsea missed out on their top targets Pogba, Marquinhos & Stones, having to settle for a loan signing from Reading + a cheap French CB. Man City flexed their vast financial muscle and paid £158.5m for Sterling, Otamendi & De Bruyne. Time will tell if they spent well. The Arsenal squad have been given a massive vote of confidence in their ability to be contenders.

  32. WENGER MUST GO ASAP(MARCUS)

    Sep 01, 2015, 20:34 #75130

    Any surprises??? Hmmmm no!! This club has become a footballing joke. As I have been saying for years clearly the main aim is to attain top 4 and anything above that or a fa cup or carling cup is a bonus!! The main aim is to not to win the pl, If it was we would not have just bought 1 player!! Only club in Europe's top 5 leagues to not buy an outfield player. It's shocking. The man has become a personality cult the power he has is unhealthy. Even mourinho does not have this much power at chelsea!! Fergie who Wenger is not even fit to kiss his shoes did not have the power Wenger has trust me!! Wenger is on another level the amount of piece he has at arsenal. We have a owner who is just happy to own a "soccer" club. The man is just another American con man who have owned clubs in the pl. No passion at all just a business adventure!! The folks who always defend Wenger always bring up the same arguments. The common oneviscthatvge could have gone to Madrid in 2005!! I say would he still be the manager of Madrid now if he had gone?? End of that pathetic argument!! The second argument is that who could we get I hear that one a lot and it's such a weak argument!! Klopp, pep, etc there are managers out there who are better than Wenger and have tactical nous. Finally the lady argument is all down to sentimental nonsense. It makes me laugh actually. Anchelotti won the la ladicima 2 seasons ago yet still got sacked, finished a close second, where was the sentimental nonsense there?? Mancini won city's first pl and a fa cup and was fired!! Where was the sentimental nonsense there?? Mourinho in he's first spell at chelsea hot sacked after winning two doubles back to back buy that still was not enough to keep he's job!! Anchelotti again was sacked in an Everton hallway after finishing second after winning the double the season before !!! Again ruthlessness and yet at arsenal wining the pl over 10 years ago gives you a job for life looool. Clearly the problem at arsenal is threefold Wenger, Kronke and Gazidis!! Kronke is an awful owner ask any fan of the teams he owns in the us!!

  33. Wear Your Colours

    Sep 01, 2015, 20:14 #75129

    Like everyone else after that exhilarating FA Cup win I was hoping a couple of outfiled signings would have helped us push on. It didn't happen, but I am not giving up on the season just yet. COYG!

  34. Hiccup

    Sep 01, 2015, 20:08 #75128

    Perspective please! (PP) - While everyone laments over today's non activity, I find myself focused and drooling over the latest Opta Index tables which show us sitting proudly at the top of the Ball Retention league. If it ain't broke...

  35. Seven Kings Gooner

    Sep 01, 2015, 20:00 #75127

    The business model is working - A very healthy season ticket waiting list. Fans continue to fill the ground and don't seem to mind the price increases and are happy with the way the club is run. After over 50 years support for the club I am now firmly in a minority of supporters who believes things should change at our club. We are supposed to be a world club but we cannot even mount a challenge for our own PL and the trophy we really need to win to give us world class status, the CL, is beyond our current managerial and coaching set up. Nothing will change while fans turn up every week, nothing will change whilst the support for the current set is so strong. They is no board member with the ambition to drive the club to the levels needed to compete with the top European Clubs - we are frightened the challenge.

  36. JM - LONDON

    Sep 01, 2015, 19:36 #75126

    **** all then. If we are not going to spend our massive cash reserves and start competing then at least start thinking about lowering ticket prices. But hey, who am I trying to kid.

  37. Exeter Gunner

    Sep 01, 2015, 19:33 #75125

    Badarse - you don't have any control over the next game either, but I concur regarding any sense of disappointment. Personally I thought that Cech would be seen as the 'marquee' signing the business model now feels it requires each summer and didn't expect any more after that. I also don't think it would make a great deal of difference whoever was bought, as the style of play, methods and philosophy employed preclude sustaining form over a season. Sanchez was superhuman last season but that was only enough to keep Arsenal at the same level as the season before. I suppose now the most that can be hoped for is maintaining that level again. But lack of activity is a signal that's all that's aimed for anyway.

  38. mbg

    Sep 01, 2015, 19:33 #75124

    Well who's going to be first? come on we know who you are, we know your dying to say it, we have what we have, we go with what we've got. You couldn't make it up.

  39. Patrick

    Sep 01, 2015, 19:29 #75123

    What, pray tell me, control do you have over the next game? None. So why get excited? is it because you support arsenal and have done for a long time? Is it because you have an emotional investment, like it or not in the team? don't be patronising by suggesting some enlightened way of thinking to others who show a sense of anticipation, a sense of hope, and now a complete sense of disappointment and disgust with the state of affairs. A supporter is damn well entitled to expect their team to show desire to improve and succeed. They represent the club. They represent us. for gods sake what has happened to us If we don't expect these things?

  40. Bard

    Sep 01, 2015, 19:29 #75122

    John F great post mate. Humour and tragedy are bedmates. Although I think the boss has lost his mojo he isnt stupid. If he buys a couple of worldies and we still dont win anything he looks a useless coach but if we are always a couple short then everyone, or at least Westie and few other AKBs, say we would have won if we had a couple more. So not buying helps him maintain his reputation. The other point made by Hiccup and others is that it really doesnt matter much whether we sign anyone or not because we all know that he isnt a good enough coach these days to win anything big. The world has moved on. My view is that we will have a devil of a fight to get another 4th place this year with the current squad.

  41. mbg

    Sep 01, 2015, 19:16 #75121

    Now we know why the old fraud got out of dodge on his flight to Paris, leaving his fans, followers, apologists, AKB's to take the flack, some messiah that.

  42. Badarse

    Sep 01, 2015, 19:15 #75120

    Hi Smithy. No one deserves anything, or anything which comes their way by trading off another, I think. It's a loose term and difficult to expound but we are a club/fans and we get what we get, as do other clubs/fans. When the season ended I posted that I didn't think we would buy anyone, but would be interested if we did. Then Cech came our way and I was moderately pleased, but no more than that. Well it seems it turned out that no more players came. My assessment of our playing staff, and trying to understand what might occur given the operating practises of the club gave me a measure. I deduced that no new players were likely to arrive. As mentioned before I never listen to Talk Radio, watch Sky, or read the back pages of rags, I also refrain from conversations of 'what might be'. It's not for everyone, but works for me. I would suggest that there are many who might try my way though, as a few are getting into a lather over a sense of disappointment. If a non buying policy was expected, then there is no disappointment. I am too focussed on the next game to waste energy for something I have no control over.

  43. Yoda

    Sep 01, 2015, 19:12 #75119

    Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.

  44. mbg

    Sep 01, 2015, 19:03 #75118

    John F, good one, I like your style good sense of humour, although would surprise no one.

  45. Smithy

    Sep 01, 2015, 19:00 #75117

    Ref- baddie - it's terribly sad that the club have just flown the white flag on our season. he is not trying to win the league or even compete. I cannot see anything other than a difficult season ahead and at the end of it a berth in the Europa league! The fans deserve better!

  46. Roy

    Sep 01, 2015, 18:58 #75116

    So, there you have it. And all the club can do is put out a statement reminding us that 6 players have come in during the last two windows, neatly side-stepping the fact that none of them will make us challenge for the title. And the same applies to the ones promoted from the academy to the first team set-up. I'm not too disappointed as I expected to be stuck in this rut of only challenging for 4th place from the moment that OGL signed a new contract until when he leaves. Talking of young players, I see Manure have paid well over the odds for Martial - but I wonder what game it was that first bought him to their attention? Hmmm.

  47. Patrick

    Sep 01, 2015, 18:51 #75115

    So our manager thinks there is no need, or no one who can improve the squad. Either It is how he wants to be, or he cant identify or convince anyone to sign. Any way you look at it, he is not fit for purpose any more. Those who defend him must surely feel unhappy, worried and let down. What can a positive spin be????? Please go

  48. mbg

    Sep 01, 2015, 18:51 #75114

    Smithy, and it hasn't been the first time mate, and won't be the last with this old has been of a manager in charge, but some just keep falling for it over and over and over again.

  49. John F

    Sep 01, 2015, 18:50 #75113

    The rumour I heard was that Graham Souness had been contacted by 50 men in Calais claiming to be George Weah relatives and were out of contract.Souness told Wenger who likes a bargain took the Arsenal team bus over to France.It all went wrong when Wenger insisted that 49 of them cram into the middle of the bus to avoid detection and left one up front.Unfortunately Wenger left the handbrake on as he tried to drive up the ramp on the Ferry the coach stalled causing injuries mainly to the knees to some of the men.The AFc medical team rushed to help but the men were heard to shout not on your Nellie we don't want to get worse and proceeded to leg it.The only one left was the guy up front who turned out to be Sanogo on the run from De boar.

  50. Its up for grabs now

    Sep 01, 2015, 18:49 #75112

    Bob never mind the highest ticket prices in Europe, the highest ticket prices in the world I think you will find!This all purely to only aim for fourth, what a bargain, what a manager, what a club, what a joke!!!

  51. Badarse

    Sep 01, 2015, 18:44 #75111

    Smithy-only made chumps of some of us, and they gave their consent, willingly. 'Buy! Buy!' Bye-bye.

  52. Martyn

    Sep 01, 2015, 18:42 #75110

    Maybe the board have refused to sanction anymore money for signings and are now calling Wenger's bluff about the potential of the current squad. If no improvement by January Mr Klopp will step in? Just a thought after a very predictable TDD. I need a pint!

  53. Smithy

    Sep 01, 2015, 18:32 #75109

    We are the laughing stock of the premier league today! What does the arsenal smt get paid for between May and sept. It's amateur hour at the grove. Well done chaps you've made chumps of us all!

  54. mbg

    Sep 01, 2015, 18:25 #75108

    Kronke and Ivan could have done a lot worse than get Harry Redknapp in to over see a couple of proper signings that we need in the last month, there's a man who knows how to get deals done.

  55. Bob

    Sep 01, 2015, 18:25 #75107

    The Great Pretender does it again. No ambition, other than to finish 4th or possibly even 3rd. And still the highest ticket prices in Europe. What a joke.

  56. CT Gooner

    Sep 01, 2015, 18:12 #75106

    Thank you FP, saves the rest of us saying the very same thing. @ Knowledge, saying the same thing over and over doesn't make it true. In fact, I'd love to have a wager with you on that one. Talking odds though, what are the bookies offering for Arsenal NOT to win the league, 1:5 maybe?? Needless to say I'm sorely disappointed in what we've done this summer, and only my love for the club has made me angry. If I supported anyone else I'd be laughing my ass off at Gooners today!

  57. 600NER PETE

    Sep 01, 2015, 18:08 #75105

    Once again Wenger manages to show his adept skills in the transfer market. Most managers would have found it too difficult to NOT buy a defensive midfielder and a goalscorer with the money we have available but not Arsene. He said he wasn't in negotiations with anyone days ago and then on the last day of the transfer window manages to pull it off. He managed to pull it out of the bag again like he normally does when nobody but Arsenal supporters thought it was possible and ended up buying no one that we needed. What a manager! I'm sure we can now go on and fight for fourth place again.

  58. Exeter Gunner

    Sep 01, 2015, 17:15 #75104

    Westlower is the master of the false dichotomy. A one man team or no striker. Tippy tappy or unprincipled clogging. Then there's the Twist - not scoring is a sign the team is maturing. Not breaking teams down is a sign the team is improving as opponents are parking the bus more. It really is fantastical stuff. I don't believe Westlower can actually believe what he says, he's just trying to lure in the gullible. He is the TV evangelist of the AKB movement.

  59. mbg

    Sep 01, 2015, 17:14 #75103

    FPGooner, excellent post, shaping up nicely for post of the day, and you make a great point also ref others (AKB's wengerites etc)who stoop to extraordinary depths to defend wenger even though he's let them down over and over and over and over again, and still doing so, you'd think he'd be thankful for the support and faith they show him (even once)and give them something to crow and bleat about but no, not a chance not even once, still he lets them down, there's no thanks in him, but still they support him and worship him, now if I had a father figure, leader, messiah, like that the last fooking thing i'd be doing is supporting and defending him.

  60. John Gage

    Sep 01, 2015, 16:59 #75102

    The irony for me is that the move to the Emirates was supposed to mean that Arsenal could now compete financially with the biggest clubs when it came to transfers...

  61. The Knowledge

    Sep 01, 2015, 16:57 #75101

    We will win the League this season. Full-stop!

  62. mbg

    Sep 01, 2015, 16:44 #75100

    jj, smoking jack is still orbiting in the sick bay of the star ship enterprise (there's scratching's on the walls all over the place of Diaby was ere) Dr Mc Coy is still running his little gizmo all over him and it's beeping away without a diagnosis, but rest assured when he's ready to come back and be our saviour we'll be the first to know.

  63. FPGooner

    Sep 01, 2015, 16:38 #75099

    It is staggering how some posters on here are willing to stoop to extraordinary depths to defend Wenger. Is Wenger even a bit thankful, as in 'Thank you for that superb sycophantic comment attempting to shore up my appalling incompetence in the transfer market, but really I shouldn't be in charge of a tuck shop'. I may have listened more attentively to some of these petty, snivelling little remarks in defence of Wenger, but for the fact that we are the only club in Europe's top five leagues not to have bought an outfield player. I am sure, as we speak, there is a desperate supermarket sweep going on. The excuses for Wenger is ludicrous. Top of the list is still Westlower, after the 2-0 loss to West Ham - 'They are further ahead in preparations for the new season'. Far from being an excuse, it damns Wenger even more. That one is closely followed by 'There aren't any players to buy'. Good one. For the first time, since man first kicked a football, clubs are doing without players. There is none to be spotted anywhere. Stadiums filled to capacity are witnessing games without any players. You can't see or buy a player for love nor money. Number 3 has to be this sudden moment of true enlightenment, where the AKBs seem to be saying 'Hallelujah, we do not need strikers. They are the work of the devil'. Has this anything to do with the fact that, in this particular department, we have Giroud? While Mr Giroud would do well to get into a championship side, we always have Wally and Welbeck. Both triers, but sadly lacking in terms of quality. Ideally, the one signing I want Wenger to make is on his resignation letter.

  64. mbg

    Sep 01, 2015, 16:33 #75098

    Peter Wain, good post, now there's something, we've had you can win a final by drawing, you could win the league with draws, now we could win it with OG's, that'll be the next thing, love it.

  65. jjetplane

    Sep 01, 2015, 16:27 #75097

    The old man was MBG out in Ireland's wild west. Loved his Irish football and could punch/kick a mean ball heavenwards. Latest is a record transfer window and my only advice is that Arsene get's that cheese in a fridge sooner than later. Talking of big freezes and hibernators what is the latest on Jack Diaby err Wilshere ...

  66. mbg

    Sep 01, 2015, 16:19 #75096

    jj, your not or weren't a fisherman by any chance because you certainly know your bait, if jw doesn't get back soon he's going to lose his reputation as the best fisherman on here as he never failed to get a bite either.

  67. Avenell Road

    Sep 01, 2015, 15:56 #75095

    Will somebody please kindly remove Arsene Wenger from our football club

  68. barnaby

    Sep 01, 2015, 15:29 #75094

    Its over, to late for a new signing now, we'll have to kiss goodbye to a title challenge this season lol

  69. jjetplane

    Sep 01, 2015, 14:36 #75093

    Ha ha WEStIE Sure you were not a Man Utd supporter like Baddie living that far away .... What you will never understand is the culture of being brought up and supporting a home team. Surely you could have something a bit nearer so you could do your little stat thing there. You must be one rich little kid traveling all those miles to watch those awful teams before the Prof sneaked across the Channel. Talking of professors there was a proper one on the radio earlier who is a gooner. Sounded a bit WOBBish as he said what everyone except WESTIE feels. The club has died under Wenger but trying to explain that to the tourists from 75 miles away (definite Manc) is hard and fruitless. Once you are in the football equivalent of Scientology there is no get out. The last resort is to whinge and bleat about the WOBs. Least you showed a modicum of passion there though you it is all a bit juvenile. No Mata (sic) as you say it will all come good as the team Matures .... Talking of maturing that GOAT's cheese Le prof bought ....

  70. Westlower

    Sep 01, 2015, 14:06 #75092

    What a negative bunch of whingers on here today, the daddy being JJ. Put Palace 1 Arsenal 2 in your pipe & smoke it. As a ST holder in the Highbury years I at least matched your 10 minute walk although it was a minimum 150 mile round trip for me, far more when I was working on Merseyside & Wiltshire. When you've flown in from Vienna & USA to see a game tell me about your commitment to a club you now obviously despise. Get yourself down to Bournemouth & enjoy your football again. @Nick, Why change tactics when you've denied the home side from any efforts on goal. Thankfully the side is maturing and is content to take a win. There will be games when we enjoy a goal fest. On the teransfer front we've certainly missed some golden opportunities on strikers Jelavic, Murray & Walters. Austin has a suspect knee and would never pass a medical at a PL club. For the life of me & LVG, manCHESTER uNITED, manCHESTER uNITED, I can't see who is available & worth signing today?

  71. KC

    Sep 01, 2015, 13:48 #75091

    It's difficult to believe this, the stadium built the money in place and yet we have a manager and board that see top four as the only goal. It's what you get when a manager is so secure in his position. When he had to prove himself he spent, Garde, Pat, Petit, Overmars, Anelka to start with. If we lose le Coq we will struggle, no team that wants to win the league can afford to fall back on Flamini or Arteta. I can understand the difficulty in buying a centre forward but not a def midfielder, it smacks of last summer and not buying a centre back which nobdoubt cost us many points. I sit at home games and wonder how this manager watches what is obvious and so many respected pundits point out. It's not about one window it's about a manager that is arrogant which is sad to say but also a manager that has lost his drive and X factor. We have money and we buy one player all the while he can not decide who our main striker is. For years Wengers weak point was central defenders and goalkeepers his weaknesses are slowly spreading. It's top four for us again and I guess having an owner who is not a supporter means all is well in the boardroom.

  72. Peter Wain

    Sep 01, 2015, 13:46 #75090

    Knowledge, We have an attack which has scored 1 goal in 360 minutes of play. Are you suggesting we can win the league with own goals - now that would be an achievement. Our squad is thin as we saw against a poor Liverpool side and at home we do not possess the invention needed to unlock defences. which is why we cannot score at home. Neither do we possess defensive resilence and we are always likely to ship a goal. So we need to improve the squad. Unfortunately in Wenger we have a manager scared to buy any players so instead of improving we get worse. Is Arteta a better player this year than last or Flamini or Rosicky. No of course they are not improving and neither will the team unless we invest in top top quality players. Wenger always talks about top top quality but has a track record of buying second rate dross. We desparately need another defensive mid field player so that when Coquelin is injured/ suspended we can replace him. Do we buy Schninderlin no we do not or any other DM a stupid and avoidable mistake. We are short of a centre half so that when we have an injury we bring in Chambers whose mistakes should have cost us at least three goals. We desperately need a quick striker and more invention in midfield as can been seen by our lack of goals at the Emirates but Wenger phaffs around until all of the possible candidates are either sold or not available. This transfer window has followed the same pattern as so many others. We get linked with every player in the world Wenger talks up the prospects and then we buy either dross (Ozil) or in this window no outfield player at all. This will culminate in an injury crisis towards the end of this month, a weakened team sent out against the Scum and a struggle to qualify in the CL. In November at the AGM the cash in the balance sheet will be massive (subject to how much the Yank takes) only for Gazidis to say we cannot spend it all etc etc ectera. It is like groundhog day every year nothing changes. Any chance of a title chase or CL run is lost. Why oh why cannot we have an owner, board chief executive and manager who want to win things?

  73. jjetplane

    Sep 01, 2015, 13:23 #75089

    Yes yes yes WEsTiE you have your research assistant supplying you with evasive stats as usual which always smacks of a non-football goer (anorak) who did not go as much as he likes to think. Not much choice for me as a kid and young lad as I lived no further than a 10 minute walk to Highbury whereas I am assuming someone held your hand and took you on a train ride once a season to see the mighty gunners. i have already stated that GG's journey went down the pan as as Wenger's the past yawning decade of insipid corporate expansionism. Best I ever saw Wrighty was playing for Palace and ironies of ironies, the neutral fan would perhaps rather watch Palace now than the drossy Hollow Way love-in which is beginning to resemble an ill-attended virtual awards ceremony. Well - everyone is busy topping up (see West Ham) but perhaps Arsene is still working out his pension plan and pay offs before he moves to The House of Arsenal Lords and liggers upstairs. I would expect all these stats to be coming from a schoolboy who likes his numbers. How old are you again? Try posting with having a handbook in front of you. Or in Baddies's The Writer's Block guide to Cosmic Awareness.

  74. The Knowlege

    Sep 01, 2015, 13:08 #75088

    I love the way Wenger knows how to play a winning hand. City chase false dawns; Chelski go into melt down with busted flush Mourinho at the helm, blaming all and sundry for their woes. United and Liverpool spray over one hundred million around on kids and no hoper's. Wenger stays calm in the knowledge that he has a squad that will win the title this season.

  75. mbg

    Sep 01, 2015, 13:01 #75087

    John F, Cornish, it's most likely a diversion ( he's not afraid to spend money on one of those)as he jets off to Paris first class in full glare of the media with that little sly smirk like he knows something nobody else does that he loves to show, Ivan, Dick, are sneaking out the back heading for some unknown jungle or outer Mongolia with 100 B+H to sign (or think about signing) another unknown dwarf who's a top top qualitee winger who will really benefit the team.

  76. Westlower

    Sep 01, 2015, 12:53 #75086

    @JJ If you ever went to Highbury as much as you say you will know how poor we became in the final months off GG's tenure. Sadly he went from hero to zero. Ian Wright was the big success but it was at the cost of the team, particularly Alan Smith (the best hold up CF we ever had) & Kevin Campbell. It proved to me that a 25 goal a season striker is not necessarily the answer. It quickly became obvious we'd never win the league relying solely on Wrighty's goals. Goals need to be shared around the team. Wrighty was box office and everybody loved him and I'm glad he got his Champions medal in the season when Anelka replaced him. A one man forward line is never the answer. The 90/91 team was: Seaman, Dixon, Bould, Adams (Linighan), Winterburn, Thomas (Hillier), Rocastle (Groves), Davis, Smith, Merson (Campbell), Limpar. P38, W 24, D 13, L1, F74, A18, PTS 83 Champions. That team averaged 4.1 goals for every one conceded. Alan Smith 22 goals, Merson 13, Davis 13, Limpar 11, Campbell 9, Just to show how even a team that good can be undone on any given day we lost 2-6 to Man U in the LC & 1-3 to our neighbours in the FA Cup semi-final after needing 4 games to off Leeds in the FA Cup 4th round (0-0, 1-1, 0-0, 2-1) before beating Shrewsbury 1-0 & Cambridge United 2-1 in later rounds.

  77. Nick

    Sep 01, 2015, 12:50 #75085

    Westflower you didn't mention why the changed I suggested to Saturday's tactics would not have given us more of an attacking edge whilst keeping our defensive shape, as for who could improve our attack, I still think Charley Austin is worth a punt, he outscored Giroud last term in a relegation side, which means his goals to chances ratio must have been quite high, surely in a side like ours which does create chances his tally would only improve, hes not bad on the ball and is not shy of having a shot,I agree Higuain is overpriced, that Benzema is overrated and as for Cavani I haven't seen him have a good game yet, Austin is big, powerful, and more importantly has scored goals at every level he's played in , would probably cost a fraction of the big names mentioned and has premier league experience, the risk on him would be minimal, but Wenger only buys kids from the lower levels, so he will not be joining us . We are only exciting when we play at pace, with crisp, fast passing and movement , we do NOT do that very often though preceding the slow, build up with backwards and sideways passes to try to draw the opposition out of position, but teams are wise to this now and merely have to keep their defensive shape to confound our efforts, its time for a change of style to a more direct type of play , we often ignore the left wing and play continually from left to right , even after its become obvious that our threat from that side has been nullified, Giroud is often seen going out wide to get the ball when he should be in the center as the focal point of our attack, Wenger is supposed to be a football visionary so id say its time he came up with a NEW vision of how we play a more effective vision , if he is indeed bereft of ideas why does he not ask for an assistant manager who is young and hungry for success to work with him for the final year or so of his contract with a view to the younger man learning from him and also him taking note of the younger fellas ideas before letting him take over and moving himself upstairs to a director of football type position ?

  78. Tony Evans

    Sep 01, 2015, 12:35 #75084

    Peter - completely agree. How on earth can Wenger be happy with the squad as it stands? No excuses are believable anymore (if they were in the first place)- we have the money and Wenger can't expect us to believe that there was not one DM or striker out there that wouldn't have improved our chances of challenging for the Prem / CL this season.

  79. jjetplane

    Sep 01, 2015, 12:05 #75083

    Ha ha! Could not make his mind up at the cheese counter but finally settled for the cheapest goat's cheese they had. Talking of goats - I hear Per & Bouldie ....

  80. Hornsey Bill

    Sep 01, 2015, 11:39 #75082

    Rumour has it Wenger's been active in the market today........... So far he's bought 3lb of carrots, 2lb of beans and a string of onions!

  81. jjetplane

    Sep 01, 2015, 11:35 #75081

    Most neutrals are not talking about Arsene's sides and have not been to any real extent for a decade. Funny how GG went from 'the best' to the worst ever! & yet Wenger with all that money and a stadia big as an American shopping mall (quite similar in atmosphere) has managed only a couple of easily forgotten domestic trophies in the latter part of a decade long age of diddly-****. Like GG players declined with the years do we need to list the rubbish under Wenger's half awake watch and still continuing with silliness like Wally (mutton man), Giroud, Per,Danny boy, Jack, Arteta ...... and on and on to 4th 4th 4th 4th ..... Just looking at Wenger induces a coma for yhe alert fan. Funny also how the likes of Bournemouth and Palce quietly go about their business getting players in that fit the club vision. Wenger has no vision as the Ozil signing has fundamentally proved and he never really has had one. The biggest change since Wenger came in through the accounts department is the fact that Tony Adams gave up the lager and started playing the piano for himself and his club. Wenger had little to do except check the temperatures of the water and making sure the chef was on his game re the broccoli.

  82. Peter Wain

    Sep 01, 2015, 11:30 #75080

    so no new signings today. why do we have such a large staff on this when they clearly do not achieve any thing. How OGL can be happy with this is beyond belief. Sack Wenger, the snake oil salesman, the board and tell the yank to sell his shares now a complete waste of space as an owner. Why do our season tickets go up merely to give the yank more money.

  83. jjetplane

    Sep 01, 2015, 11:16 #75079

    CLocKiE Think I would rather Cavani because if he sits on the bench all season while Giroud stares up to the heavens with that 'how did I miss that one' grin, Cavani could come on at half time dressed as a pirate, do a bit of keepy-uppy and those little gunners with rich parents would have a ball. Newsflash Theo Walcott is going to a football academy abroad to learn some football stuff to go with his undoubted Janus-faced spin acrobatics ......

  84. Westlower

    Sep 01, 2015, 10:40 #75078

    @Nick, I agree with a lot of what you're saying. I've been lucky to see 5 outstanding teams since my first match in 60/61, Bertie Mee's team in 70/71, GG's in 90/91 & 3 by AW, 97/97, 01/02, 03/04. The best was GG's team, closely followed by McLintock's warriors of 70/71. Sadly, GG changed his footballing philosophy after 91/92 when we scored 81 goals but conceded 46 to finish 4th to Leeds. We only scored 40 goals & conceded 38 the following season and George was set on anti-football. We morphed into a cup side and played on the break with Wrighty the outlet. From then until GG was sacked it was the most dire football I ever witnessed. GG took us from a glorious peak playing the most exciting football ever from 86 to 92, to utter despair by the time he left. At one time we looked as though relegation was a real possibility. Talk about how the mighty fall from grace. So sad. We went from Limpar & Marwood on the wings to Carter & Helder for crying out loud! Up to date, Theo remains our Mr Marmite but he's always going to give us a different option & at his best he does score goals. Tippy tappy is disliked by most fans but it's usually an attempt to lure the other side out of their defensive shell to come and attack the ball, freeing up some pace into which we can play. In an open game we are a very exciting side to watch as most neutrals will endorse. The better we get the more parked buses we've got to overcome. An early goal is essential to get the game to open up for our technical players. It's become easier for us to get results away from home winning 7 of the last 8 + a draw at OT.

  85. Red Member

    Sep 01, 2015, 10:20 #75077

    westlower - you may indeed have a point about the paucity of strikers available during this window BUT the problem is that this is not the first window that we have needed to bring in a striker - we have still not adequately replaced RVP from THREE YEARS AGO!

  86. Westlower

    Sep 01, 2015, 9:48 #75076

    If Man U, desperate for a striker, can only get an inexperienced teenager for £36m, it tells the story of this transfer window. With Januzaj going to Dortmund they must surely have tried to get Aubameyang in exchange? Higuain has a £69.1m release clause which is more than double his real worth. Benzema isn't leaving RM, Muller isn't leaving BM & Cavani unlikely to leave PSG. Which available striker does that leave who could improve Man U or Arsenal in the short term? The player with the shortest odds to join Arsenal is midfielder Adrien Rabiot, based on the story that AW is in Paris.

  87. clockender

    Sep 01, 2015, 9:42 #75075

    Of the strikers mentioned Cavani is probably the best option but I still think we're better to stay as we are.Unless we really pushed the boat out,how about Ronaldo to Arsenal jjetplane.He does come with his personal grooming team yet he doesn't have a tattoo on him..

  88. Nick

    Sep 01, 2015, 9:36 #75074

    Westflower, the point you make about Walcott would be valid if it were eleven vs eleven, I have often bemoaned the exclusion of Walcott when were hanging on to a lead under pressure when his sheer pace if left up field would ensure the opposition would HAVE to leave at least two players back to watch him, but no Wenger is content for us to sit deep and when the ball is cleared it is inevitably recycled back into our half and box , with a man advantage against a tiring side the need to run AT them is as good or better a tactic than trying to bore them to death with tippy, tappy stuff, attack in those circumstances is as good a way to defend as any, I never said we had to be gung ho, I did say to move Ramsey back did I not ? You can play with PURPOSE without abandoning your defensive duties , under GG we did win 1-0 a fair bit , but we ALWAYS had an outlet to move from defense to attack , its a myth that we simply parked the bus during that era ,especially during the two title winning seasons when we played some cracking football, with the likes of Marwoood, Limpar, Davies, Rocky, Thomas, sand co , we did have a center forward who scored goals and held up play well too, we simply had a super efficient and well drilled defense.

  89. John F

    Sep 01, 2015, 8:05 #75073

    Thanks CG I must admit I only read the newsnow part of the stars article.We must have the strongest done deal team in the prem now.

  90. A Cornish Gooner

    Sep 01, 2015, 2:34 #75072

    No doubt there will be at least one poster saying ' I told you so' if we fail to sign anybody.

  91. A Cornish Gooner

    Sep 01, 2015, 0:26 #75071

    John F. The Star also goes on to say ' GestifuteFIFA's claims regarding the reasons behind Wenger's visit to Paris are highly sensational and more than likely to be false. The former Monaco chief - 65 - is a regular pundit for sports broadcaster beIN SPORTS, who are covering France's upcoming international friendlies against Portugal and Serbia.' As you say it's another 'done deal' like Benzema. According to The Star, he was going to be introduced to the Arsenal fans before the Liverpool game, wasn't he? Let's hope they're right this time.

  92. mbg

    Aug 31, 2015, 23:04 #75070

    David, yes indeed mate that's why so many (probably no one more so than myself) are against him and want him out, he just won't do what's necessary when it's so blindly obvious to everyone, and you've got to remember this isn't a one off (as some would have you believe) it's been going on for years now, same old same old decisions, mistakes, excuses, second third rate players, the list is endless, and that's obvious also, and thats the problem, and the biggest problem of all is some fans don't care and are happy with it/that, and keep making excuses for him such is their blind faith in him, but thankfully that's changing with fans now waking up. He might still have a short while to go on his contract and he might see it out and he might not but thankfully we're now witnessing the last days/times/reign of arsene wenger.

  93. mbg

    Aug 31, 2015, 22:14 #75069

    Ron, desperate is the word alright, as you've said yourself on various occasions he's fooling nobody, and he's ticked that box for me long ago.

  94. John F

    Aug 31, 2015, 21:41 #75068

    Well I have just read about another done deal .Following on from benzema on the plane to sign for us earlier this month we are now certain to sign cavani.How does the daily star on Arsenal newsnow come to this conclusion well Wenger has been seen on a plane to Paris.What other possible reason could this Frenchman be on a plane to France for.Done deal you heard it here first

  95. Ron

    Aug 31, 2015, 21:38 #75067

    JM - do you ever reckon some of these so called mega star players have a value that reflects 60 % hype and 40% truth? Agree with you on the two you mention and agree with AFC not buying either. KB seems to me to be warmed up Giroud, though i accept his figures in Sp football are impressive as hes knocked a lot in v teams who make the numbers up in la liga. The sheer number of Ronnies and Messis goals tell us what a league it is.Its fantasy football really, aided and abetted by a large chunk of fodder teams in my view. Out of the known european mega type players theres only Messi who matches up as i see it. Ronaldo, good as he still is maybe now is just over that brow of the hill of his career and ready to descend gently or perhaps rapidly as Rooney seems to be doing? If we had any of them im not sure the regime at Arsenal would max the benefits either. Isnt the club structurally unsound to take these types? I think we need inspired managerial ability to seek out and get the types we need in a way that AW could 15 yrs back. Its harder now though and calls for a younger guy and a backroom team to have the energy to do it. Its not knocking AW for the sake of it that drives my critique of him. I just genuinely feel that age has led him to look for the safe and comfortable options all of the time and safe options mean mediocrity. Arsenals brand of mediocrity though in a PL where 4 teams are all 'Champions' is a brand that the Board (and many Boards would be in fairness) seduced by. The disconnect is where the fans want footballing success, the team doesnt really reach it as it lacks the abilty to do so, but the Board dress financial success up as footballing success. Its a p--s take and for a few years we all bought into it lets face it. Now its been rumbled we have the clash of opinions that we see on here and hear amongst those at matches. Im pretty sure that if that CL was a tourny for Champions in the true meaning of the word i.e one team , these who stoutly defend Wenger/the Clubs hierarchy now would be singing a different tune.

  96. Man United Killer

    Aug 31, 2015, 21:38 #75066

    Has anyone thought about the fact that maybe on a more serious note, the board and manager are just happy to be also-rans as long as there is money in the bank? This may truly be the Club's Business Model.

  97. David

    Aug 31, 2015, 21:31 #75065

    Mbg - it's just depressing. We can all see what arsenal need - everyone can - but yet he still goes on, making excuses and not taking any worthwhile action. He will come out with some bland statement about not really needing the extra quality, play with his zipper while arsenal go out of contention in every competition. And then when his team has no chance of winning anything, Rambo, Giroud, Walcott, Coq, Wislshere, will all start playing like champions. AW will think to himself, all they need is more time to gel. What happened to the bloke who axed the Merse because he wasn't quite good enough? How are the mighty fallen. ..

  98. JM - LONDON

    Aug 31, 2015, 20:32 #75064

    I've never rated Giroud as top class, indeed sometimes he's quite dreadful. I would however be disappointed if we spunked £50 million on Benzema or Huiguan. Like buying a good used car from a man dealer at an over inflated price. Why don't we go into the showroom a splash out on a top of the range model - Ronaldo or Neymar for £100 million. We'd probably make the difference back in guaranteed success and massive commercial revenues.

  99. Hiccup

    Aug 31, 2015, 20:10 #75063

    Bard, spot on. It makes absolutely no difference even if we sign a striker. He can sign 3 players and it'll make no difference. I'm sorry, but even those that think it will make us a title challenging team are just as deluded as the AKB's. Man Utd killer is spot on. Transfers are the tip of the iceberg. Wenger is the problem. However, I really do hope we sign a striker, as I think it would push up our ball retention percentage by a couple of points. For me though, I would prefer to be top of the most passes completed league table. I think this statistic is often overlooked, and I reckon a Rooney type player that comes deep looking to get involved in the play, could up our current average of 647 passes by at least 5%. Fingers crossed!

  100. jjetplane

    Aug 31, 2015, 19:40 #75062

    Who cares about the dumb ass politics on here. We are talking football and RON is a great source of knowledge and inspiration to even Mr Exley .... Now then I am a bit partial to psuedo anarchic syndicalism but I maintain Wenger's 'go and and express yourselves ... little bit' to a bunch of tattoos and silly hair cuts will win bloody nought .... Gary ..... What you say Henry lad? Errr b-e-l-i-e-f. What did our kidder say Gary? .... Something about a religious cult in Holloway. That's it! Arsene plays it the hollow way .... That's the cohesion he was mumbling aboot 't other day. Fancy a chinese Jamie? You off Thierry? ......

  101. Bard

    Aug 31, 2015, 19:34 #75061

    Hiccup youve been in scintillating form today. Its been the posting equivalent of Paddy at his best. I share your indifference to the transfer window. Frankly its irrelevant who we do or dont buy. We are marooned in a sea of mediocrity managed by someone who cannot, despite his best efforts and substantial funds, compete in the big league. The AKBs are the epitome of Monty Python's Black Knight. Clockender/Jamie I met a bloke in my unit like you who thought he was Santa Claus on Monday, Marlyn Monroe on Tuesday and Wenger on Wednesday. The giveaway was that all three talked s***e.

  102. Man United Killer

    Aug 31, 2015, 19:24 #75060

    Sign this sign that sign this sign that isn't going to get us anywhere...Lack of signings are only a fraction of the problem..Tippy tappy no shooty is the real problem...So frustrating to watch sometimes...Looking for the perfect goal! Since when did trophy-winning depend on scoring the perfect goal. Why can't Wenger see this.

  103. clockender

    Aug 31, 2015, 18:32 #75059

    Our possession stats of 65.1% is pretty impressive as it shows the teams ability in ball retention,always the best line of defence.

  104. Ron

    Aug 31, 2015, 18:21 #75058

    clockender - yes. Youre right, its very bad at times to the extent that apologies to the home fans on behalf of the morons are quite common on away days. Ive picked on you of course and youre clearly not of the ilk im speaking of. Its got far worse in the last 4 years. Footballs the worse for it. How the home stewards turn a deaf ear to it is amazing, some of the face to face stuff they get. Why and how they do that job beats me.

  105. Hiccup

    Aug 31, 2015, 18:17 #75057

    So we are top of the shots on target league. If we exclude City, we are also the most successful team at shooting but not scoring. Bard, I think you're right. We are keeping our powder dry for the next manager. Remember that one? And that is not an excuse. That is fact!

  106. Bard

    Aug 31, 2015, 17:57 #75056

    Sorry for the paucity of posts today. I had a little altercation in my pub late last night and got hauled back to the Unit. The new owner says he is gooner but he is really a manc. We had a heated discussion about the fact that there is a conspiracy against Arsenal. The Ramsey goal and blatant pen not given against Newcastle were, to my mind , clear evidence that the Mancs control the PL. I really let him have it. Anyway they have put me on very strong medication that reduces paranoia. The upside is that it has given me the kind of clarity that others like Baddie can only dream of. i have forensically examined our games so far and it is clear that we score once every 20-25 chances created. Instead of wasting £50m on a striker who would score 20 goals a season, maybe win us the PL and get us through to the qualifying stages of the CL far better to concentrate on creating more chances. So to score 2 goals we need to create 50 chances and so on. Lets flood the midfield by lining up 3-6-1 and really go for it. David@ be patient we are building for 2020.

  107. clockender

    Aug 31, 2015, 17:54 #75055

    Ron-I have always been in favour of bringing back the birch,especially for tattooed,hair moosed,well groomed strangelings who inhabit today's football terraces,I know jjetplane will back me on this one as he is disgusted by these folk too.Their attitude towards smaller clubs is terrible,where I call them tiddly and frankensteine they use much stronger words.

  108. A Cornish Gooner

    Aug 31, 2015, 17:46 #75054

    I hope Arsene Wenger missed this headline. 'Ajax youth academy coach slams useless Arsenal loanee Yaya Sanogo'. Apparently, Ronald de Boer has said that Sanogo has 'no useful qualities' for Ajax. Sanogo had been praised by the Ajax manager, Ronald's brother Frank, a few days earlier after scoring a hat-trick in a friendly against Qatar Long John Silver XI Umm Salal. If Wenger has read it he's likely to recall him immediately to take the role of 'useless distraction player' espoused by our very own 'Tikka Tikka' proponent. The one with the magnetic personaility?

  109. Smithy

    Aug 31, 2015, 17:44 #75053

    Goonercolseyboy- the reasons for not signing anyone would have relevance if they were heard for the first time but we've been listening to the same broken record for a least 7 years . And putting up with dross like bendy, denielson and almunia as a result.Arsene is like the boy who cried wolf- too many lies over the years so no one believes him if says anything of merit!

  110. David

    Aug 31, 2015, 17:40 #75052

    It was hard to believe at first, but the reality is that in all probability AW will not sign a single player. Absolutely staggering that he can be so stubbornly inept. All the other clubs have the players they want but Wenger either wants what he can't have or won't pay the price to get it. And so another season of frustration. 3rd or 4th, 2nd round of CL.

  111. Ron

    Aug 31, 2015, 17:31 #75051

    I m not bothered where youre from clockendgooner, you just called other smaller clubs tiddler clubs with their grizzly Frankenstein supporters or some other such junk. Its a mentality that flows from the seats of Arsenals away fans these days. Badarse - i and may others comprehend you only too well. Its that which youve a real problem coping with. Carry on regardless though. I can feel youve just rocked up, yr shovel in hand ready to dig another hole to dive into chum. Tom Daley has nothing on you, though yr more hilarious.

  112. goonercolesyboy

    Aug 31, 2015, 17:27 #75050

    We are second in shots taken(16) this season behind Man City , danny, and equal with City with shots on target (6). Not sure why the various reasons given for transfer policy are deemed as excuses, they are facts. When Utd are about to fork out the best part of £35m for a 19 year old then this is now where the bar lies. Hernandez is off to Germany.

  113. clockender

    Aug 31, 2015, 17:19 #75049

    You can't level that one at me Ron as I'm not from the capital.I'm a fen man who lives in London occasionally so the cockney types who watch Arsenal you dislike so much I haven't mixed with since the eighties.I don't even sit in the clock end anymore though I once used a box at Highbury for a season,the East Upper center is my home where I can sit in comfort and get a perfect view of whats happening.I still prefer the mixed crowd though at Arsenal to West Ham man or the suburban ultras from Palace..Geordies and macams I like,scousers and mancs not so much.

  114. Badarse

    Aug 31, 2015, 17:17 #75048

    Hello peeps. Well am home, checked and saw firstly Ron didn't comprehend what my personal observation was, that was followed by Hiccup missing the bus, and mgb just running around in circles. If someone offers a considered likely-or unlikely-facet it gets blown out of the water by a Neanderthal approach. The finer nuances are overlooked and the howling at the moon begins. It is hilarious. Hiccup just a point, what gives you the moral high ground, or any others for that matter, to gripe about a situation then gripe at a guessed at, but reasoned response? Now I know owners begin to resemble their dogs after a while but be careful of the company you keep. Woof! Woof! Seriously we are all guessing and making suggestions etc, as was that 'post of the day' candidate of mine you mentioned. Walcott is poor and hasn't an intuitive bone in his body. He is not a natural striker! He does have the worth I spoke of though. AW's reasoned consideration? Who knows, probably not, perhaps so, but it is a thought out offering. To get rudeness from people who would be better served working for Billy Smart is pathetic. Non-Arsenal supporting fans, belly aching constantly is easily ignored as they are somewhere out there, but to pull up an offering is unreasonable. Had one your side of the fence posted it would have been applauded or possibly ignored. Get it? Anyway next offering, what is the value of a pennyworth of chips to a hungry man, and would it force the backline of a team a further 10yards deeper?

  115. Smithy

    Aug 31, 2015, 16:58 #75047

    What excuse is he going to use tomorrow at 6pm? 1. There's no value in the market. 2. He didn't want to kill girouds,welbecks and walcotts confidence. 3. Trust me I know best. I expect all 3 .dont want pato though- he is very similar to what we have. a physically quick imposing striker is what we need.

  116. Peter Wain

    Aug 31, 2015, 16:55 #75046

    nice to see that we are not panic buying actually we are not buying at all!!! We did panic buy when we bought Arteta and that brazilian full back that was so awful but OGL has learnt his lesson. Now we don't buy at all

  117. Anti-Wenger

    Aug 31, 2015, 16:54 #75045

    We can't win the EPL because we have too many inconsistent performers. You're never quite sure which day Giroud, Walcott, Ozil, Ox, Carzola will have a great game.Why can't Ozil influence every game(or nearly every game) the way David Silva does for ManC? I believe he has the ability, just the desire is what's lacking. by the way, I love Le Coq and Bellerin, they may not be the best in the world but you know exactly what you're going to get when they're on the pitch.

  118. mbg

    Aug 31, 2015, 16:51 #75044

    Man United Killer, top post, and that very Fact seems to fly over so many heads, I wonder why.

  119. Ron

    Aug 31, 2015, 16:33 #75043

    Your stating the obvious a bit there Westie but youre not totally correct. Rightly or wrongly the fans of Spurs Everton Liverpool Villa and such like place the expectations upon the Clubs and lets be quite honest here, Arsenal are only a notch or two above those Clubs. Dont let the glass bowl and trappings fool you. The sports media ravage all Clubs with the same vigour. It just sounds different to you because youre a bit possessed by them. They dined out on how wretched Villa Toon and QPR were last season and slaughtered Everton for not raising their bar to follow the season before and Liverpool for not title challenging again. The so called big boys have always bought players from the lesser sized Clubs. Thats not a phenomena started by Chelsea Barca and Real M. The lack of enjoyment by fans of the bigger Clubs has to be seen and heard to appreciate. I heard enough of the bile and garbage at St Jaames s the other day. I can only speak of Arsenals so called away support. Arsenal looked like, played like and for the most are a team that plays to a level on scale of poor to decent. Versus Toon they were poor. Let me tell you now, it didnt stop Arsenals fans from spilling out the usual low level embarrassing filth, disparaging mindless shouts about NE people and their City, which i have to say to you Geordies out there is s smashing City. In doing so, it wasnt football related dogs abuse in the main, but it was through sick contorted faces for much of the time. Sad and despicable. Take a look at that idiot 'clockenders' post to see a very much diluted and lightweight eg of the attitudes of arsenals fans 'enjoyment' of the game. 79305. Im glad i go to few games now as ive said before. Have to say too that ive been in Utds home and away support, Evertons Villas Leeds West Broms Leicesters and Liverpools too. The vile sinister abuse towards other clubs fans to those levels is unique to London fans and Arsenals are probably the worst. Poor advert for Londoners. Im aware you never go to games now or hardly do. Do yself a favour matey and dont bother. Nearly all are a load of old rubbish attended by delinquents.

  120. Danny

    Aug 31, 2015, 16:31 #75042

    Guys, i keep on saying, how much tolerance to the useless coach are you going to bare we will not progress with a dinosaur in charge we definitely need more better players, but trouble is the style of play. tippy tappy. For christ's sake shoot the damm ball! wenger out!

  121. jjetplane

    Aug 31, 2015, 16:24 #75041

    'The occasional victory over the big boys' as in Swansea beating Arsenal to pulp as they do with the Mancs. WESTIE thanks for clearing that up with your detached views from a big red armchair. I am sue fans from all those 'little' clubs who actually follow football in the flesh would love to have a chat with the likes of you. You sound more like your hero with every post. Trapped, struggling to make sense of what is happening. Like Wenger. So the rest of the football world is not aware that Wally is pure pants and that makes him a secret weapon. They must have spent all night on that one while Baddie passed an ill wind courtesy of the Raj.

  122. mbg

    Aug 31, 2015, 16:18 #75040

    Moscow Gooner, good post, and who's fault is that, I rest my case.

  123. Hiccup

    Aug 31, 2015, 16:02 #75039

    Another post of the day contender! So for years we've been told we can't possibly compete with City and Chelsea as we can't afford the top fees. Now that we have millions in the bank that we refuse to spend, apparently, splashing the cash isn't the way forward as it doesn't come with a guarantee? Just look at City and Chelsea for proof! Keep them coming. Please, please keep them coming!

  124. Westlower

    Aug 31, 2015, 16:00 #75038

    @Hiccup Having a minimum of 8 home grown players and a maximum of 17 foreign players is mandatory, not bollox!

  125. mbg

    Aug 31, 2015, 15:59 #75037

    Far far away, hear what your saying, and don't forget we've already signed a pacey starlet years ago and look how he turned out, there's still one big factor which a lot seem to forget about, wenger, he'll never coach them properly and/or get the best out of them no matter what category they fall into, more likely they'll regress or he'll ruin them.

  126. Westlower

    Aug 31, 2015, 15:48 #75036

    The dearest 10 PL transfers: 1. Di Maria (Man U) £59.7m 2. De Bruyne (Man City) £54.5m 3. Torres (Chelsea) 4. Sterling (Man City) £49m 5. Ozil (Arsenal) £42,5m 6. Aguero (Man City) £38m 7. Mata (Man U) £37.1m 8. Alexis (Arsenal) £35m Carrol (Liverpool) £35m 10. Fernadinho £34m. How many of them justified their high fee? Certainly Aguero & Alexis. Certainly not Torres, Carrol, Di Maria & Fernadinho. Jury remains out on Ozil, Sterling, Mata, De Bruyne. Splashing the cash doesn't come with a guarantee!

  127. Hiccup

    Aug 31, 2015, 15:43 #75035

    mag, some strong competition for post of the day. Baddie has certainly propelled himself up there with that gem, but Westie still blaming Phil Dowd for the worst capitulation in PL history gets my vote. I tell you how bad things are. Not only are the rest of the AKB's embarrassed with this peach, even the Scousers would cringe if they dreamt such an excuse up!

  128. mbg

    Aug 31, 2015, 15:29 #75034

    So wally scares teams because he's English, has a wealth of experience, (i'm sure the opposition are quaking in their boots alright)i'd say their biggest fear is he might talk them to death that's if he can stay on his feet long enough, just when you thought you'd heard it all. You couldn't make it up.

  129. Hiccup

    Aug 31, 2015, 15:16 #75033

    Westie, we start every season ill prepared squad wise (for a title challenge). I blame Wenger for that. You on the other hand, defend him to the hilt. The excuses are a joke. The names you have given make a mockery of your excuses. Myth no 1: we don't have the available funds for top players. Had someone on here said we should sign Ozil for £42m the week before we signed him, the AKB's would have said don't be crazy, we don't have those funds available. It's immoral too, so **** off and support City. That's proved to be bollox, and the moral high ground of the AKB's has also now dissipated. Myth no 2: we can't sign players until we have qualified for the CL. Sanchez signed last summer before the season started. Myth no 3: signing more than a couple of players is too much for integration and the balance of the squad: funny how when we signed 5 players on deadline day this bollox of a statement was buried and Wenger was praised for great work? We now go in to this season with giroud, Walcott and welbeck as our strike force. Posters on here don't think this will win us the league. I don't either. Maybe Wenger does? I don't really care. We are where we are, and it is what it is. We're good for 4th, and that's fine. But when I start hearing bollox like there's nothing better out there than what we have, or home grown quotas restricting us, or there's been a World Cup, such drivel needs ramming back down from where it came. Year on year, Wenger has shown neglect to the squad. The excuses have run their course, so please give us a new batch.

  130. Man United Killer

    Aug 31, 2015, 15:15 #75032

    We speak endlessly about signings but our style of play significantly accounts for a majority our toothless displays- not to speak about players being played out of position. Ozil isn't a winger, Cazorla isnt a central midfielder and Ramsey isnt a winger. Of course it's good to sign world class quality but until we use the right tool for the right job and adopt a more direct style of play especially in the final third, the major trophies will continue to evade us. It's time for Wenger to go!

  131. Westlower

    Aug 31, 2015, 14:54 #75031

    @Ron, Supporters of clubs outside of the top 6 can enjoy their football far more as expectations are so much lower. There is no hiding place for fans of the top clubs. Success is relative to size of club & for some, a place in the top half or a good cup run is as good as it gets. As long as they don't get sucked into a relegation battle there is far less pressure on everyone connected with the club. The media are kinder with their criticism & they tend to get a free ride. The occasional victory over one of the big boys becomes one of the highlights of the season. The down side on having a good season is that the big boys come sniffing to buy their best players, aka Southampton & Swansea.

  132. jjetplane

    Aug 31, 2015, 14:53 #75030

    CLocKTHaDDErsONIE is at it again with his perverse Wenger-fuelled perception that what is clearly an emergent class of teams who now given a slice of the SKY/BT cake are clearly better at buying players in than the top money clubs which include Arsenal, and are also playing some great football (see Swansea & Palace give the big boys a shock) that pleases fan bases who understand and live the game. of the top lot only Citeh appear to still have a decent local support and like RON I am a football supporter and in fact always have been. Presently I support my most local team and having been born in the Arsenal area and schooled and what not as a gooner all seemed fine until 2005. pennies dropped and the club fell dramatically into being an indistinct brand with an insipid logo to boot. Only teams in London worth keeping your eye on after the mighty O's are palace and West Ham. We know where all the others are in the corporate chain with Chelski as Sainbury's, Arsenal as M&s and the Tesco Totts. Palace and the Hammers would be more Lidl and Asdi with plans for the sneakiest of coups. It's all changing and it's happening across the river. Wait til Stoke get revved up then watch the tattoos and the big fly! WOBS love Football/AKBs love 'Grandad' ...

  133. Far far away fan

    Aug 31, 2015, 14:29 #75029

    United are paying 36 mill for an U20 player whose only scored 11 goals last season....at that rate Cavani at 50 mill will look really good. At least we'll sell more shirts!!!

  134. Made Up Stat

    Aug 31, 2015, 14:27 #75028

    Giroud has been quoted as saying that it is 'Obvious' that Arsenal need several good attackers and that it would have been good if the club had signed Benzema. Clockender -sorry, I mean Jamieson - does this mean Olivier's a WOB?

  135. Ron

    Aug 31, 2015, 13:57 #75027

    Hi Cyril - yr post makes a very good point. It sort of re inforces my own belief that the supporters of the Clubs that you speak of and JJ mentions take far more satisfaction and enjoyment from following their Clubs, than do those of the so called established top 4 cartel now. Football here, speaking as one whos more now a football fan than a Clubs fan,it needs that cartel breaking up and bringing down by these emergent Clubs. They shd be celebrated. its not now the Utds Chelsea s Citys and Arsenals that make football, its the Clubs who challenge and rail against them right down from the top of the PL to the bottom of the lowliest non league Club. Those Clubs and yes, their fans have in may ways become a pariah on football.

  136. Far far away fan

    Aug 31, 2015, 13:41 #75026

    I'm not a Wenger sympathizer, but poor old Wenger!!! It's like watching your dad getting knocked out. You're urging him to get up and put up a fight, but deep inside you know he is out. The dad thing is because I grew up watching Wenger's glorious Arsenal (feel like an old man looking back only 15 years) and I haven't known Arsenal under any other manager. I'm not an AKB (stopped being one since the 8-2). But let's suffer through another year and a half and let him leave with a little dignity. A more naive person would wish that the old boy can find one last hurrah before it all ends.... Sorry for not contributing to the transfer discussion

  137. danny

    Aug 31, 2015, 13:30 #75025

    If we dont sign anyone in the same bracket as Alexis or Ozil despite what people think of Ozil he is class,and if he doesn't have striker who is world class to work with then he cant do what he does best which is assist goals in which case I think he will leave next summer as Alexis will soon after leaving us short of world class players and too much rebuilding to win the PL anytime soon and by then the Mancs, City or Chelsea will have broken the 100m braket for a player making it almost impossible to compete for the best players let alone winning the league. The frustrating thing is that we're not too far off now that we've got rid of most of the deadwood, the board and Wenger should have gone for the players that we all know we need.

  138. clockender

    Aug 31, 2015, 13:26 #75024

    I agree with you on the support front jjetplane.The ones always griping are a sad bunch of fans at the best of times,yet they've always been there and even though few of them venture to the Emirates when they do they just embarrass us all with their booing boasting and eternally coveting over their neighbours fence.I know a lot of akb's don't attend as well yet if a man is 100% behind the club and supports when he can and doesn't slag the team or manager off at every opportunity he's alright by me.You obviously have a small club mentality with your love of tadpole teams with their plucky lump it attitude and their grizzly Frankenstein supporters..Personally I don't think Wenger wanted to sign Ozil or Cech yet sometimes you have to to keep the simple who believe everything they hear happy..

  139. goonercolesyboy

    Aug 31, 2015, 12:42 #75023

    The transfer debate can run and run and plenty of what ifs or why nots involved in adding to the squad. I agree that the wages paid to previous fringe players was a factor and hindered adding players. But players have been signed, whether you think they were last minute panic buys or not and recently in the main are still with us. The window should be closed on the first game of the season and be done with this sky sports circus. I hope we buy someone but wouldn't have a punt one way or the other.

  140. jjetplane

    Aug 31, 2015, 12:32 #75022

    CYRIL excellent post and I caught a bit of a gooner phoning in last evening saying the middle tier teams are just getting better but could have gone further and talked of the stagnation of Man Utd and Arsenal and it looks like these kind of teams are going to be leaving scars on the more smug self satisfied clubs with their questionable gate receipts. I could not give a toss who Arsene does/does not sign 'cause while he is half asleep at the wheel even a goalscorer will not help a club that has lost it's forward motion. Hoping Southampton, Leicester, Stoke, Everton, Swansea, Palace and Bournemouth keep gate crashing for the season and showing up the Chelskis of this world for what they are. Brands period with little to separate them - a bit like the starbuck variations supplying overpriced sugary rubbish to the masses. Sounds familiar. At least those teams mentioned are still playing football and keeping their fans in song. We won't mention Citeh because they only they will lose the PL is if they get silly again. Their support deserves more. As for arsenal's support - well just look at it .....

  141. Moscow Gooner

    Aug 31, 2015, 12:31 #75021

    'there was too much of what used to be called ‘fannying around the area’ and not enough taking the bull by the horns and testing the keeper from range with the possibility of someone taking advantage of any rebound.' The same against Liverpool but that hardly requires a new striker - just a different set of tactics: withdraw Giroud back behind the front three midfielders and pull defenders out with him. In contrast, what we're trying to do at the moment is thread the ball through to him when he's playing with his back to goal and has two or three defenders sitting on him.

  142. WeAReBuildingATeamToDominate

    Aug 31, 2015, 12:18 #75020

    The time is right for Harry Kane to "cross the house". Now wouldn't that be something.

  143. Westlower

    Aug 31, 2015, 12:07 #75019

    @Hiccup, Where did these 18 current squad members Alexis, Debuchy, Ozil, Welbeck, Monreal, Cech, Mertesacker, Koscielny, Rosicky, Arteta, Giroud, Ospina, Walcott, Ox, Ramsey, Cazorla, Chambers & Gabriel come from if it wasn't via transfer windows?

  144. Ozzie

    Aug 31, 2015, 11:53 #75018

    Well, I am glad I don't fork out good money to watch that tripe. What a boring spectacle!

  145. Hiccup

    Aug 31, 2015, 11:41 #75017

    Westie, the weather makes me miserable, but whether arsenal Wenger does or doesn't sign anyone, I really couldn't care less. You see, over the years, arsenal's transfer activity (or lack of it), is totally down to Wenger. The fact that we have been unable to offload dross that's remained on the books, isn't due to UN intervention, but down to our policy of paying them too much. The fact that we don't sign players is totally down to Wenger. We have the funds and we have the pulling power of a big club. If we choose to penny pinch then so be it. If Wenger thinks the squad is already good enough and doesn't need additions, then so be it. That's all down to Wenger, and to be honest, I am totally fine with that. However, when you start making excuses up for the guy, like it's impossible to buy anyone until we are assured of CL qualification, etc, then I think you need pulling up on it. While listening to genuine fans on here asking for players to be bought, as all football fans do, then listening to some of the garbage excuses you AKB's defend Wenger with is pathetic. For years you have used the same excuses every transfer window. Just like Wenger trying the same thing year after year and hoping one day it will work, you say the same thing every year, hoping one day it will be right. Well you've been proved to sound daft every year. At least Jamie realises this so changes his name from time to time to save face. Even baddie tried changing his name but that made him look dafter than normal. I tell you what, let me know what the odds of you saying something sensible are, and I'll look at making a bet.

  146. Ron

    Aug 31, 2015, 11:22 #75015

    Hiccup - youve forgotten the oldest and best one - that of needing to wait until the CL qualifiers are out of the way. Its been used this year by at least 1 AKB that we needed to wait until Utds qualifier was out of the way.

  147. Westlower

    Aug 31, 2015, 11:06 #75014

    How about some interesting bets for you to ponder on a wet miserable bank holiday. Miserable Les Hiccup may want to bet on Arsenal not signing a player on deadline day at 4/5. It's 10/11 that we will. Gary Neville to be next England boss at 7/1. Sepp Blatter to be imprisoned by Jan 1st 2016 at 6/1. Arsenal to win any major trophy at 11/8. Theo to be Arsenal's top leading scorer in PL at 4/1. Charlie Austin to join Man U at 5/4. Next Chelsea manager - Pep Guardiola at 4/1. Cavani to join Arsenal at 5/1, to stay at PSG 1/40. Higuain to join Arsenal at 2/1. Benzema to stay at RM 1/100. Lewandowski to join Arsenal at 5/1.

  148. Torbay gooner

    Aug 31, 2015, 10:21 #75013

    Clockender, well done for slipping your restraints and of course we are in a two horse race with City. We are bound to win the Champions League as well.

  149. Hiccup

    Aug 31, 2015, 10:18 #75012

    I for one love the transfer window. Not the Sky News bollox, but the posts on here kill me. The season finishes, and someone posts we need to buy a striker. He is then shot down that the transfer window isn't even open yet, even though United and Chelsea are going about their transfer business. In June, anyone still asking for signings is told to shut up, as we can't possibly do anything until the World Cup/Euros/Copa/Olympics/General Election (delete as applicable) are finished. In July, we can't do anything until we have sorted out existing players contracts. We have to wait to see if Djourou wants to stay or go, or if there are any mugs willing to take Bendtner on. But all the while, we are still told there is plenty of time left. As we go in to August, it is then brought to our attention the problems due to the home grown quota rule. And now, here we are at the eleventh hour, and we are now being explained the time zone differences across Europe! But don't worry, there is still plenty of time, as Arsenal have asked if the clocks can go back tonight instead of October to give us extra time. Why bother doing things nice and early, eh? I'm just waiting for Phil Dowd to be blamed for Arsenal signing no one.

  150. Exeter Gunner

    Aug 31, 2015, 9:58 #75011

    clockender, Wenger doesn't tinker during games. The forward players have the freedom to interchange during matches. Wenger believes in the players working it out for themselves, this is long known and established. Strange view you have from the clock end. Are you sure you're facing the right way?

  151. Ron

    Aug 31, 2015, 9:48 #75010

    Unless yr 50 odd youve never seen 'total football'. Youve certainly never seen it at AFC. Henry went to Barca with a bad back and as a squad player. Squad players do limited roles. In that Barca team he joined, there wasnt a 'Henry role' available to him. Ive heard his comments on his time there too. He seems to like to create the revisonary impression he was bought to enhance and improve what they already had. He wasnt and im sure he knows it. Interchanging roles by fwds and middle men calls for skilled and intelligent footballers. You cant make silk purses out of sows ears as Wenger keeps trying to do. Run of the mill players like Giroud, Wally et al need defined roles. Without them, they look and are hapless non performers.

  152. clockender

    Aug 31, 2015, 9:36 #75009

    Henry did ok at Barca he had a 1 in 2 game scoring ratio yet from his own mouth he said he was told to stay on the wing as even Pep limited his play wanting him in a more rigid formation.Wenger is the only real exponent of the attractive total freedom style of play,a couple of classes ahead of all his opponents in my opinion.Note how the three forwards were always changing position from the left to the right and through the center against Newcastle.Yet all we hear from some quarters is about Wengers substitutions too dull to notice all the brilliant tinkering the man does during a game.If some of you took the time like Westlower does to look into the facts maybe you wouldn't all be so blinkered.It can't just be Badarse,West,Colsey,myself and a few randoms who see this surely..

  153. Westlower

    Aug 31, 2015, 9:35 #75008

    Correction: The French transfer window ends at midnight Monday, not Sunday. The Bank Holiday got me in a mucking fuddle. Also closes today in Spain, Italy, Holland & Germany, but I believe the German window closes a few hours before the rest.

  154. Barnaby

    Aug 31, 2015, 9:33 #75007

    One day left to buy a dm or a striker, I really thought we would have got one of these with cech, if we did then we could have won the league, but it looks like another complete waste of a season coming up

  155. Hiccup

    Aug 31, 2015, 9:31 #75006

    You realise that when arsenal blow a 4-0 lead with just 20 minutes of the game left, and the referee is to be blamed for such a capitulation, then any disastrous performance can be exonerated. I even recall the 8-2 being blamed on RVP missing a penalty, a game which we would have gone on to win had he scored? And people have the temerity to mention Father Christmas and tooth fairies on here? You couldn't make it up.

  156. Ron

    Aug 31, 2015, 9:26 #75005

    Far Far away ...its right i think to say that AFCs best players historically have emerged and not been bought for big money. We ve a history of dud buying as you say throughout our time, not just AW. Now is one of those times that a short terms decent striker and center back is needed. There have been these times before such as a few yrs back when Defoe wd have been handy to come in at a decent price for eg when he was still a really good player. Even a player like Lescott would at this stage have been an option. This i think is why some are suggesting Austin as an eg. A guy to do a job and if it doesnt quite happen no harm done. Im not of the view that many of us who criticize Wenger do 'clamour for big names'. Agree with you re Cavani - is he really that good? Was Higuain? Im not convinced either. What is a given is that what we re laboring with now isnt an option. Some times, some wheeler dealing is reqd. Wenger shuns both that and big name buys while sticking to his mission of loyalty to too many players with long histories of not performing to a decent consistent level. This is the nub for many of the knock Wenger fans. We re stuck in the mud as a Club and the Club is perceived as content just to make sure it has leak free, dry wellington boots on. The show v the Toon just again underlined it for me.

  157. Ron

    Aug 31, 2015, 9:10 #75004

    Hi Westie - true re that 4-4 for sure. The other day was just nondescript. A non event really. 3 pts for it though so AFC wont be conducting many post mortems on that. Glad i never traveled there and back in one day just for that. Many Geordies non too enamoured with Schteeeve!

  158. Far far away fan

    Aug 31, 2015, 8:56 #75003

    I haven't been able to shake this thought from my head. I feel like even if we go and spend big and get Cavani, he might turn out to be a dud. Even Henry when he was bought by Barcelona, didn't actually play like "Henry". I know we've been clamouring for a big name striker (or any player), but with the Arshavin and Ozil experiences (both immensely talented), I feel like we'd have a better chance with some underrated player whom the media hasn't made a star already. Look at Mahrez. We all saw the goals he scored last season. The media didn't go gaga over him last season and now they are scratching their head and wondering how he's scored 4 in 4. Same with Monteiro. He ran Chambers ragged last season but nobody paid much attention until he did it to Ivanovic. Fergie had a knack of gambling well on underrated players (not kids). I'm not saying we don't need a signing. I'm just saying that I won't mind if we signed some pacy starlet who has the hunger to make a name for himself over someone who is already a star.

  159. Tony Evans

    Aug 31, 2015, 8:51 #75002

    My mis-placed optimism after the cup win is fast evaporating with every game. Why did I even think Wenger would do the necessary in the summer transfer market and we would start this season at last looking like the real deal? We have the money but not the ambition it seems - very disappointing.

  160. Westlower

    Aug 31, 2015, 8:41 #75001

    One transfer that won't happen is Cavani to Arsenal. He played & scored 2 goals for PSG in their 3-0 win over Monaco yesterday. He also missed several gilt edged chances, along with others this week including Rooney, Benteke, Alexis, Giroud & Theo . It's hard to imagine any CL team selling on of their prize assets on the last day of the transfer window. It closes at midnight Sunday in France. It smacks of yet a another fanciful media story. Austin to Arsenal, unlikely, for Austin read Jeffers. I think the last day drama of the transfer window is mainly in the heads of the SKY presenters. It's a bit like still believing in Father Christmas, wondering if he'll bring us a special new toy! @Badarse, Did you pull yourself a beautiful MOD chick on your visit to Brighton? I know the wife was with you but why take a sandwich to a banquet? Bell boy, keep my lip buttoned down....always running at someones bleeding heel!

  161. Westlower

    Aug 31, 2015, 8:11 #75000

    @Ron, Apart from getting the penalty decision wrong I thought it was a much improved display from Martin Atkinson. The Geordies were on his back the whole game but he stuck to his guns. Contrast that with Phil Dowd's performance during the 4-4 draw when he practically donned a black/white shirt for the 2nd half. He let Joey Baton commit whatever misdemeanours took his fancy, one of which saw Diaby sent off after 50 minutes. Dowd awarded Newcastle 2 penalties as well as allowing an offside goal to stand. Dowd had morphed into a magpie for 45 minutes.

  162. Ron

    Aug 31, 2015, 0:52 #74999

    So in other words Badarse and upon the assumption that our Coach is wise to Walcott s fallibilities - even if opponents arent and lets put aside the fact that hes been playing PL football for 10 years (lets also put aside the award to him of perhaps the highest salary in the team for a few moments), you're saying that Wenger picks him to capitalise on how poor a player he actually is and in doing so hopes that the opponent on any given day doesn't know, to the point that they dedicate their entire tactical plan to deal with it? Hmmm. An interesting theory, provided that you believe in faires being at the bottom of your garden. Many do and ive long thought that you do - i bet yr a Corbynite arent you? Go on, admit it chum. Anyway we digress in this 'debate'. You see, if yr theory holds water ( note the nod to physics here to keep you up), why then did nothing change when Walcott wasn't there? Was our Coach capitalizing on Girouds limitations hoping that the opponent didn't know them either? I think youve got some thing here. Wengers plan is clearly then not to pick players with any positive intent to win games by their ability to perform, but instead to win titles based on how bad a player or collective players might be by kidology of the opponents Coach/team? The worse then that a player is, the better his use to the team? This is a radical departure from mainstream AKB philosophy for sure and its certainly a departure from yr usual florid utterances. Its good to see you trying new ventures, ill grant you that. It just needs a bit of the work on the logic though especially as its premise is flawed from the outset. As a physician though im sure you ll develop the experiment. Cant wait for the next lecture on this theory. is there anything in our next reading lists to look at on this topic?

  163. Badarse

    Aug 30, 2015, 23:15 #74998

    Walcott is limited. We all know his likely value as an impact sub, but a little more sub-tle is his ability to put fear into a defence despite his limitations. No defender can play the odds as westlower does. They cannot think that he will probably foul up, just in case he doesn't so they have to respect him as they would a lethal finisher. That helps us in forcing a defence backwards. This aids the team. His worth to the club is quite a separate item to his value. He is English, is a Prem experienced player and has a wealth of personal experience. That makes him very marketable and this is his worth. This may not make sense to some but to others it is a sound financial investment. Sadly today basic football talent and fitting into a squad has to consider adjacent requirements.

  164. Paulo75

    Aug 30, 2015, 22:18 #74997

    Wanyama and Austin wouldn't cost the earth and would give us what we are lacking. I like Welbecks work rate but he is wasteful in front of goal. Giroud has been out of form for a while now and as fir Walcott - he must have some agent ... £140k a week for what exactly? Overrated because he's English. That miss in the first half was almost unbelievable. Come on Arsene, 99% of the public know what's required. Sort it out.

  165. Dartford gooner

    Aug 30, 2015, 22:13 #74996

    Anyone noticed Merson is morphing into Ray Winston.I thought Gabriel looked good and should keep his place.Can we stop knocking Coquelin and his passing ,I can remember only one stray pass at Newcastle. Count how many passes Ozil makes and how many go astray, watch the Liverpool game again and see what I mean.Will he buy a striker, who knows but we need something more up front. There must be someone better than we have in Europe or South America, I can't understand why we always leave it to the last hour of the window. 2200 Draxler sold, another one we missed out on.

  166. Mark from Aylesbury

    Aug 30, 2015, 22:01 #74995

    AKB's , AMG's , WOB's all saying if we can't have Higuin or Cavani lets have Austin.... Oh sorry them comes Clockender to tell us different.

  167. Badarse

    Aug 30, 2015, 21:59 #74994

    Here's another for you Cornish. The landlord at the Black Horse in Brighton centre is a Neecastle fan. I chatted to him outside and he was still trying to live off the 4-4 draw. I understood of course and empathised with his plight-that of being a Toon fan. We found another place The King and Queen and my wife didn't want me to return to call in and say hi to him after the game, or any time we passed. I asked why she thought it was in my mind and said I kept gravitating back to that road so it had to be. That's the trouble with gravity, it gets you down. Hiccup no swearing or giving oaths please, so that means no cuspedness of any sort just yet. Difficult journey to PAlace out of the way too.

  168. Cyril

    Aug 30, 2015, 21:52 #74993

    Ron, how are you mate, love your posts as usual? The latest results show that the increase in money to the league is leaving no hiding place anymore to the elite clubs. It's a leveller. Arsenal are sleepwalking themselves into mediocrity. Its's not just about the 'marquee' signings anymore. The young bucks can now source the players to make their squads really competitive. The young bucks, Gary Monk, Koeman and excellent tacticians like Pardew are binding squads relatively quickly. There are no excuses. Dare I say it but it reminds me of playing football manager on the zx spectrum when this game first came out around 1983. Let me tell you, there wasn't too much that I had to do to make a competitive team. I am not that remiss to assume that this is real life footy but I am merely making the point that we should be able to employ the right people to get the excellent back ups that a squad needs. It's not going to be just about '6 pointers' with the usual suspects anymore and hence why we need the strongest squad available who will do the bleeding business. One straight example , edu bought in 2001 and Gilberto in 2002. Come on Wenger, wake the chuff up!

  169. mbg

    Aug 30, 2015, 21:51 #74992

    MARCUS, spot on, he's never took the final step, (and never ever will) ie try and win the league 100% he's always been two or three short, (and always will be) he'd much rather stick to his long failed philosophy/philosophy's even if it's detrimental to the team and club, than give in and be proved wrong, his own interests come first and always have and always will of trying to prove everybody wrong and win it on the cheap.

  170. goonercolesyboy

    Aug 30, 2015, 20:52 #74991

    Wanyama and either Hernandez or Austin.

  171. John F

    Aug 30, 2015, 20:42 #74990

    A Wally in the box and a Wally with a brolly not often do get that at a game.Ron ,as you mentioned you are up there with relatives i was just wondering how the toon fans are taking to McLaren.If they disliked fat Sam's style of play what are they going to make of the side being turned into a team of cloggers .I thought for once we handled the aggressive style of play well .

  172. Hiccup

    Aug 30, 2015, 20:38 #74989

    So, this time last year, the spin was we were one of only two teams still unbeaten. Remember that and all the guff about being on the cusp? This year, get this, the spin is we have got the long journey to Newcastle out of the way? Come on, we can do better than that. Next, please...

  173. mbg

    Aug 30, 2015, 20:19 #74988

    Hiccup, yes they must be on double time (it's a pity the cart horse and wally weren't they might score) Google and Wikipedia must be in melt down.

  174. mbg

    Aug 30, 2015, 20:01 #74987

    dave, spot on, and/but it will also prove wenger got it wrong, now that would/will be a major factor because as we know the Lord and master doesn't like to be proved wrong, it would be completely unacceptable, even for the good of the team/club.

  175. DW Thomas

    Aug 30, 2015, 19:57 #74986

    Don't post much on here anymore as its all become rather boring, myself included! Saying the same things year after year, week after week! We need at least 2 top players, but hey that's every year! Walcott just got a huge raise to an already too high salary and we get that? I got 3 guys on my Sunday league team that can finish better than him! F...ing humiliating that over hyped never achieved his potential prima donna. Giroud was poor as well, but he had much less time at least. That was perhaps the most boring game I've seen in years! It's a bad state when watching West Ham play is more thrilling! City are miles in front of us and will demolish teams more when Aguero starts playing better. Lucky for us Chelsea, Man U and Liverpool are struggling. A 1-0 win is a win, yet vs 10 men shouldn't we be expecting more? Once again our transfers are a joke, nonexistent. Wenger is too old in his ideas, plain and simple. The possession style only works when eventually a goal is scored! Otherwise it's sooooo boring. If Ramsey is our creative engine we're done for! Gabriel at least was solid. But where is Debuchey? Did anyone notice Joel Campbell on the bench? Groundhog season awaits!

  176. Ron

    Aug 30, 2015, 19:55 #74985

    Insipid match yet cd and probably shd have been at least 3-0 t the Arse v arguably the poorest Ton side ive ever seen. We ve said so often that despite the obvious limitations of Mr Giroud, when hes not there the team looks shorn of shape and threat. Walcott was abysmal and like many of us have said for so many years, he has no natural predatory instinct, no power, cant fashion his own chances, cant play off or turn a defenders shoulder, cant head a football, little ability to read a game and hes so limited positionally. At best hes ok for a 15 minute blast out wide v a tired team, but only then provided the team, any team he plays for, is prepared to poke balls fwd of him to run at and onto. Whoever has lead him to think he can front up an attack needs their head examining.

  177. clockender

    Aug 30, 2015, 19:22 #74984

    At least everybody seems to be in agreement that attacking football is the only way,looks like the gung-ho akb's were right all along.Funny how before everybody wanted Chelsea pragmatism.You just can't please some folk!How's the picture of Pellegrini looking in the 'Dark Room'at Wob Towers?I've got some great candles if anybody's interested..

  178. mbg

    Aug 30, 2015, 19:19 #74983

    Glocken, we're already had TEN years on the training pitch with this excuse for a manager mate, and it hasn't worked what makes you think even more time is going to make any difference now.

  179. Badarse

    Aug 30, 2015, 19:17 #74982

    Oh to be in a party of one, as opposed to a clique that doesn't quit click-but often clucks,(those damn chickens again). "People try to put us down!" Off for a Ruby again, RAj Pavilion-excellent. 24601 remember-'You are never alone with a Strand!' Am always nearby, watching eagle-eyed, ready to pounce-I tell you the stuffed parathas never stand a chance. So only 3 unbeaten 7 points on the board and a long journey to Newcastle done. Bard released from hospital in a bent straight jacket, Jeff absent, few insults abound so Ron must be away, just jj relieving himself in that rank old phone box. 'To the Tardis mgb and Hiccup, let's regroup.' Good old Arsenal shall remain 'Good old Arsenal' with a new top gun or the current guns, get used to the idea. Hush Puppies and red socks.

  180. David

    Aug 30, 2015, 19:08 #74981

    Turgid football. Even if he does buy a centre forward, it's probably too late - it needed to be sorted out before the season started. PL title has Citeh's name all over it. It could've been Arsenal had they been prepared to pay the price.

  181. Jason B

    Aug 30, 2015, 18:39 #74980

    Perfect game for Giroud to get amongst the goals as he has a good scoring record against Newcastle so very surprised not to see him start. We are not going to win the league this season, it's already Man City's and this is before the first international break of the season.We have been awful and very slow. A change in formation to 442 would suit us.

  182. smithy

    Aug 30, 2015, 18:36 #74979

    Good to see that United have the same illness that we have. Duncan good hewitis.- nothing up top! If it's a case of money- we could share a striker with them on an alternate months basis ?

  183. Hiccup

    Aug 30, 2015, 18:28 #74978

    Martin Tyler mentioned the words 'Manchester United' 127 times during today's game, compared to 'Swansea' being mentioned just 94 times. I've lost count as to how many times Gary Neville has mentioned 'Manchester United'. Further proof to the love in towards United. I wouldn't be surprised in the least if this result was overturned in favour of United with so much bias for them running through the country.

  184. Red mist

    Aug 30, 2015, 18:10 #74977

    Most boring arsenal side ever, tippy tappy side wards passing boring boring boring

  185. Bard

    Aug 30, 2015, 18:07 #74976

    I've just been let out thankfully although I'm not sure about the medication but I did see yesterday's game in a pub run by a bent referee. Apparently he is a gooner. Dave @ clockender is Jamie,Jameson,Pete and a ton of other names ignore him. Good point we are creating 20 chances a game and so far have converted 1 with 2 ogs. Of course there are strikers out there, you just have to pay the right price. Anyway it doesn't really matter as we're bang on course for another 4th place finish so why bother to invest.

  186. 1971 Gooner

    Aug 30, 2015, 18:06 #74975

    I think it goes something like this: Stanley has told Arsene he is not prepared to spend the money required to challenge the alternate steady-state dominance of Chelsea and Man City. Stanley reasons he can make a tidy profit each year as well as watching his asset - the football club we love - appreciate in value as a result of the Sky vs. BT broadcasting rights arms race. Arsene accepts this on the basis of his loyalty to the club/enjoyment of total control over football matters/trousering £8,000,000 per year (delete where applicable). Conclusion: it's the owner, not the manager that's the problem.

  187. goonercolesyboy

    Aug 30, 2015, 18:06 #74974

    You see jeffjunior you just can't help yourself, sly anti Arsenal digs on every posting ad nauseum. Ninth tier remember is your level. Eastbourne deserves you.

  188. jjetplane

    Aug 30, 2015, 18:00 #74973

    GG is top man now. Lol! great day in the PL for Swansea and the Saints. Swansea are boss with a great young manager, great GK (oops), great fans and in the top 4 with the Foxes and the Eagles. If that remained for the season it would be like a dream. Funny how Fabianski is such a safe GK with a tactically aware unit in front of him. Some managers just do not know hoe to work with players.

  189. Westlower

    Aug 30, 2015, 17:28 #74972

    @Nick, Things to consider. Was Walcott's presence on the field a factor in keeping Newcastle defenders deep in their own half? By them staying deep Arsenal had all the room needed to play keep ball. I agree with you there was no open field for Theo to run into after the sending off but he still could & should have scored after the GK parried Alexis's shot. We were previously heavily criticised for playing gung ho football, so we can't have it both ways. Nothing wrong with a 1-0 win, GG was famous for it.

  190. jjetplane

    Aug 30, 2015, 16:39 #74971

    Self catering for a week in Turkey 250 and train and Newcastle match should set you back the same. Of course with a whole week in Turkey you can also go and see RVP score regularly for Fenerbahce. It appears he has quite forgotten anything Wenger might have said to him. I can of course do both cheaper as I have friends in both destinations .... Why are you on here Colesy 'cause you are clearly not enjoying the experience. Cheer up - it's the bank holiday ....

  191. jjetplane

    Aug 30, 2015, 16:19 #74970

    I wonder if the powers that run the English game could help engineer his sacking for crimes against competitive football. It really needs to be stopped in it's tracks. It won't catch on anyway as he is generally ignored in most football circles now. The subject has exhausted the football nation and all have moved on. Except for two or three on here and the multiple posters and arseblog.

  192. goonercolesyboy

    Aug 30, 2015, 16:17 #74969

    You really are a clown jeffjunior when you equate going to Turkey the same price as watching a game of football. What, are you on, benefits? Why comment on here when you no longer support the club? Just to be annoying? You have found your level in the ninth tier.

  193. Peter Wain

    Aug 30, 2015, 16:11 #74968

    Whislt we clearly need at least three players make no mistake OGL will buy no one. We laboured badly against a very physical team and it is no coincidence that two of our three goals were own goals. Never ready to take the market by storm Wenger's timidity has cost us dear in the last five years. This time we ignored Schnidlering which will been seen as a big mistake. We have no plan in the transfer market and I do not believe we have any intention of buying anyone else. If this is so then Wenger should be sacked as it is total incompentence not to strenghten a very average small squad.

  194. jjetplane

    Aug 30, 2015, 15:49 #74967

    Ha Ha HIccup yeah those excuses of English quotas, never winning anything, parking Wenger's Citroen on the pitch at away games and now we are the best anti-attacking side with a six pack in a tight shirt in Europe. Is it the shirts that restrict the team going forward and Per and Arteta moving instead of pretending they are cones. Right bunch of cones. Saints are back - scoring, going forward, winning with conviction. Arsene's awayday casuals will apparently win the PL without resorting to such outdated ideas. Better be careful or it could be that Wenger and the spuds will end up the forgotten ones in London .....

  195. Hiccup

    Aug 30, 2015, 15:36 #74966

    The AKB Office for Statistics dept is going in to overdrive today! As usual, the seasonally adjusted figures which take in to account calendar years and bent referees, once again prove that arsenal are in fact the best team in the country. I await the reissued statement as to why it is legally impossible to sign a striker that all the fools on here are crying about, without first deporting 3 home grown players or loaning out 2 youth players or whatever the boring excuse is.

  196. Exeter Gunner

    Aug 30, 2015, 15:24 #74965

    So Arsenal have a great defensive strategy, play the best football and don't need a goalscorer. Can someone else square this with the actual performances and results, because I can't.

  197. 80s Gooner

    Aug 30, 2015, 15:23 #74964

    Was Ozil really injured yesterday or is he about to join Bayern or Juventus?

  198. Nick

    Aug 30, 2015, 15:22 #74963

    Westflower what was there to change? Fit for a start put on Giroud as there was no space for Walcott to get in behind, but no Wengers waited until his usual time to do that , personally as we had a man advantage id have taken off Le Coq and kept Walcott on out wide while moving Ramsey back and putting the Ox in the middle ,but Wenger did nothing that game was there to be won at a canter as well as improving our gd , but the lack of any tactics proactive action ensured we merely scraped home in as boring a game as I have ever seen, yes we won comfortably in the end but it was poor fare, Newcastle's only tactic was to foul and try to hit us on the break, a very poor team , I realize we are better than we've shown so far but sometimes you have to try something a little different when things clearly aren't working for you, as for possession, for all the 700 odd passes we completed one error or shot out of the blue could have seen us lose two points, we used to play exiting football but since 2006 we have steadily become a team of sideways and backwards movement, it is NOT exciting.football !

  199. WENGER MUST GO ASAP(MARCUS)

    Aug 30, 2015, 15:21 #74962

    We won't be winning the pl just forget that already!! The folks who got all kiddy because we bought cech and thought that would be enough to win the pl are starting to get a reality check very quickly. Walcott the 140k man was a joke and to think he had the gull to demand that type of money when he has proven to be just an average player is beyond anyone!! Andy Cole and Ian wright both said it's to late to try and make Walcott a striker he just has not got it. Again this team has a soft underbelly and finally martin Keweon the Wenger lover admitted it on motd!! Also clearly the main ambition of this football club is to get top 4 anything after that is a bonus. The main is to not win the pl 100%, if it was Wenger would have gone out and bought the necessary players by now! Man city have done it and so did chelsea last season. Yes they have a lot of money, so do we! The money is there. We are a big club. Yet as I have said since 2008, we will never win the pl again under Wenger. We a striker a wc one yes I know they are hard to come by, but why did Wenger not start bidding early in transfer window?? Last year he panicked bought welbeck smh. I fear another panic buy!!

  200. Westlower

    Aug 30, 2015, 15:19 #74961

    Arsenal's last 8 PL away games resulted in 7 wins, 1 draw, 0 loses. Not bad for a team with a 'soft under belly', lacking an inspirational captain & a clueless coach.

  201. Torbay gooner

    Aug 30, 2015, 15:14 #74960

    Is anyone willing to break out of the confines of their straitjacket and state that they believe this current team can genuinely compete for the title this season and more importantly why? I would love to know!

  202. jjetplane

    Aug 30, 2015, 15:04 #74959

    Must be dizzy with all that spin. bet your 'research assistant' must be on a minimum wage like Thadderson's 'barmaid in a shed.' Pl is presently awash with some truly exciting teams like Southampton, Palace, West Ham, Swansea, Leicester, Bournemouth and even Citeh are not bad. No room for Arsene's boring keepball in the league of good teams to watch. Can't score, can't get into the area, can't entertain. Welcome to the most boring Squad in the history of Arsenal FC.

  203. Westlower

    Aug 30, 2015, 14:46 #74958

    PL Goals conceded in 2015. 2, 0, 0, 0, 2, 1, 1, 0, 1, 0, 1, 1, 0, 0, 1, 1, 1, 0, 1, 2, 1, 0 , 0. That equates to 0.7 goals per game. That's the advantage 'Tippy Tappy' can give a side capable to ball retention. Historically, us Brits have been reared on get in their faces, smack 'em, then lump the ball upfield. Thankfully life has moved on, whatever Gary Neville thinks.

  204. dave

    Aug 30, 2015, 14:42 #74956

    Is clockender son of Westlower? We have had over sixty shots in 4 games and an Arsenal player has scored one goal.But dont worry when prolific Welbeck returns the goals will flow.Give me strength.For the last 10 years we have always been two players short.The problem is Wenger wont buy a striker because it will kill his love child Giroud.Walcott is a myth built up by the English media.Giroud and Walcott cost the club £270k a week in wages

  205. jjetplane

    Aug 30, 2015, 14:34 #74955

    Coldsore did you go Saturday for the price of a week in Turkey .... Turkey ...... Flabregas was a suprise buy but glad they did because he failed at Barca like Sanchez and is failing now - like Sanchez. Whatever good football they have is taken out of them By a economics prof with a dodgy certificate. Arundel are a pretty handy side so to get a draw with them was quite satisfactory though to win in the replay is another matter but we can dream. There is a lot more to football than your shallow perceptions of others being glory hunters. You just cannot stomach the idea that is life beyond Wenger's two bob keepball. Oh when the Saints/go marching in ..... Howabout you sticking to your moaning about others which only goes to show how insecure you feel about the lack of direction over a daecade and 3 Days! lol! Missing Jeff already are we? .....

  206. Glocken

    Aug 30, 2015, 14:32 #74954

    Aside from the well documented defiences of Walcott and Giroud, I generally feel if we played with width and pace a lot of attacking problems would be solved. Our play at the moment is too focused on slow build up and procession based. Too frequently we play in front of teams are get swallowed up in the middle. Would I love a Lukaku or Morata? Of course, but realistically with two days left of the window it's going to be hard to pull off a big signing. More time is needed on the training pitch is needed to practice and enhance our attacking play. BTW - I would like Wanyama as well, Arteta and Flamini are not good enough.

  207. mbg

    Aug 30, 2015, 13:58 #74953

    RED FRED, you sound very like man yoo's mascot, but ref what you say, are you only realising that now. Mark from Aylesbury, there you are then, spoken like a true AKB.

  208. mbg

    Aug 30, 2015, 13:44 #74952

    Warning Kev? we all know this old past it manager doesn't do warnings, never did or never will and he's not going to start now, you can't teach an old dog new tricks, the list of clichés is endless. Too much fannying about alright and we certainly have the right players for that, the usual tippy tappy going nowhere, i'd love to know where this great football we keep hearing about and the best in the prem at is, I suppose when people are told something often enough they'll believe it. Three precious points so everythings rosy in the arsene garden again, (for now anyway) we're up and running fourth place is on.

  209. goonercolesyboy

    Aug 30, 2015, 13:31 #74951

    1-0 to the Arsenal, 1-0 to the Arsenal. Why don't you give us a match report of your famous Eastbourne' s match with Arundel, jeffjunior, as that is your level or maybe find another ex Arsenal player you can deride even though he now longer plays for us and blame our manager for his current form?

  210. clockender

    Aug 30, 2015, 13:20 #74950

    So true Westlower,what is it with so many of our fans that they cannot see beyond the end of their noses.We completely dominated that game against a team who were terrified to venture out of their own half.We were being told last week that we kept giving the ball away,so this week we just retained possession,if Newcastle had opened up we could have hit them for six.I think with a lot of our disgruntled fans they have poor footballing brains which seem to leap on whatever the latest 'Arsenal negative' is being preached.I'm sure in real life they can't be this bone and most of what they say is either a wind up or just letting off steam....

  211. KC

    Aug 30, 2015, 13:16 #74949

    @peter Hughes sensible post but you are avoiding the issue of Wenger not addressing the striker problem earlier, why is a club our size having to hunt around in the last three transfer days for players. This is the issue, we behave like a small club in regard transfers to often.

  212. Exeter Gunner

    Aug 30, 2015, 13:11 #74948

    So the keystone cops defending we've often been subject to over the years is actually 'sophisticated'. Problem with keepball is you have to keep it for the entire match. Some can't seem to grasp the simple fact that AFC have been dominating matches but losing them on one or two counterattacks for years. As you cannot have the ball 100% of a match what you do when you don't have it is also important. There often looks to be no plan.

  213. Wear Your Colours

    Aug 30, 2015, 13:10 #74947

    We were not fluent but I thought it was a really controlled performance. We didn't give them a sniff at our end and we took one of about five really good chances. To be honset I am less concerned about signing a new forward than another DM. Theo, Giroud and Alexis will all start scoring soon and when Danny if fit I think we have enough firepower in this squad, especially if we can continue to keep clean sheets at the back. To me another player to partner/cover for Coquelin should be our priority over the next three days.

  214. jjetplane

    Aug 30, 2015, 13:01 #74946

    Along with further demented posts like that. Interesting to see that Arsene keepball Inc are so far down the match reports online that you have to go through the links to find saturday's. They really have become like GG's later efforts and this is the result of a decade's preparation. Boring Boring Arsene. That Chelski match will be a laugh but it also seems that Flabregas is still a Wenger player in his ruvvish midfield displays. Pardew - wot a manager! Bournemouth - what a club.

  215. Westlower

    Aug 30, 2015, 12:32 #74945

    @Nick, What was there to change? Have you ever seen an Arsenal side with such control over a game away from home? Newcastle got a 0-0 result at OT in their previous game. We had practically total domination of the ball & didn't give Newcastle a look in. They were sh*t scared to venture into our half. Some of our fans can't seem to grasp the simple fact that retaining the ball is a more sophisticated way of defending than rotating the serial fouler's to break up play. The opposition can't hurt you if they can't get hold of the ball. McClaren thought he could rough us up but it didn't work. Spot the ex-England coach or was it The Headless Woman pub team coach? We have conceded less PL goals than anyone in 2015. Maybe the team who concedes least goals will win the PL. Chelsea are leaking goals wholesale at the moment with the 'best' defensive coach in the Universe. On another day we would have won 5-0 yesterday. The goals will come.

  216. Peter Hughes

    Aug 30, 2015, 12:31 #74944

    No doubt we need a a top class striker, but one needs to become available & that is doubtful at present.No point in getting one just for the sake of it who does not improve the team.We have had Liverpool gambling on using 90 minutes energy in 45 minutes & after that we were denied being one up at half time anyway. Newcastle decided to kick us & failed . Chelsea won plenty of ugly games on the way to the title & some fans bemoaned we could not do the same.The goals will come but the lack of them will damage confidence the longer it goes on. Clean sheets & wins will however give us plenty of resolve. A top class striker is something we all agree we need & despite what some say Wenger will buy if he can get one.If not we do not want second best.

  217. Torbay gooner

    Aug 30, 2015, 12:24 #74943

    Nick, you have mirrored my thoughts more or less. We are obviously not the only team struggling to score goals e.g Manure and you think sooner or later we will catch fire, however by that time our title 'challenge'(don't laugh) will be over for yet another season!

  218. Nick

    Aug 30, 2015, 11:57 #74942

    We did not change our style at all to take advantage of the man advantage, it was the same old tip, tap , tip, tap, on one occasion Sanchez won the ball in defence released Ramsey and was bombing forward in hope a run and pass from the Welshman but as is his wont , Ramsey stopped to turn around instead of running forward and lost the ball, attack turned to defence in one circular movement, our forwards dont look to have a goal in them, yes we should have had a pen and Newcastle were in fact lucky not to lose more than one player to a Red card or second yellow, if the team struggled so did our manager, his one " tactical" change was to so it seemed swop the ox and Wallys position's for a time ! A win is a win but unless our form improves exponentially from what it is at present a season of frustration beckons. We must in my opinion buy a striker and probably a goal scoring winger , as well again just my view proper back up for Le Coq, our only other hope is that Sanchez can find his goal touch again and that the emergence of a young talent from the reserved or youth team can come to our rescue, if Wenger relies on that then he is a damm fool, to say there are NO players out there available that can improve our side is an outright bloody LIE !! but i will not be holding my breath on deadline day, signings should be identified, and brought in before or at least in time for pre season ,its not impossible it can be done but not at Arsenal or so it would seem, report for yesterdays match a pass but only just can and MUST do better !

  219. clockender

    Aug 30, 2015, 11:54 #74941

    None of the top strikers in the Premiership including Aguero has scored more than one goal.The top three goalscorers with 4,4, and 3 are playing for Leicester,Bournmouth and Swansea,far too early for all this annual jelly fan panic buying.

  220. jjetplane

    Aug 30, 2015, 11:43 #74940

    Excellent stuff DAN and that is the crux. Everyone and his dog is bored by the Arsenal 'pass it around the cones and repeat' and surely their greedy aims to go fully global will be hit by having such an ordinary team who this season were to be built around Ozil who they have now found out would rather walk his dog and top up on his trainer collection than do anything as base as play football. Ozil represents Wenger's work over the last decade - a softly softly ballet boy who is nothing more than a football diva. How anyone can talk about Arsene Inc as standing firm against a 10 man team who struggled with relegation last season is beyond me. Looks like Le Coq is gaining a reputation for playing to get the opposition booked. Rolling around is hardly Viera material so apart from Sanchez who will be feeling quite distracted if this Wenger-fuelled ennui is to carry on seemingly forever. Wrong on Newcastle who are bedding in and will have a better season and if Le Prof carries on snoozing the door is open for a Palace type side to disrupt the 'top six.' Glad to see Westie has studied the DVD in order to do his armchair manager bit. Wenger does a lot of that DVD watching malarkey though what he has been watching over the last decade is anyone guess. Pink Panther on blue ray ..... What a delight it has become to watch Bournemouth and Palace though of the big money boys Citeh are irresistible presently and with decent fans and an extended ground they are a joy to watch. What is the stat I wonder now for Arsenal appearances on MOTD? They must rank along with Sunderland. Black cats and yellow dogs .....

  221. Hiccup

    Aug 30, 2015, 11:33 #74939

    Disappointing headline to the article. Was hoping to read something like 'Back in business again' or 'Back on track'. As for three days to sort the season out? Come on, we all knew with Wenger that this squad was practically sorted and ready to go back in May. Didn't we?

  222. Dan

    Aug 30, 2015, 11:10 #74937

    Stop indulging clockender, he's obvious either an AKB zombie or a troll, I'm not sure which is worse!. We needed at least 2 top class additions to the squad this summer, so far we have failed to get even 1, Wenger has already started coming out with the excuses about the market and how FFP not working it the problem (again), getting pretty bored of Kroenke & Wenger's dull as dishwater vision for Arsenal. If this carries on our history booked will look thus: 4th 4th 4th 4th 4th 4th 4th 4th 3rd 4th 4th 4th 4th 4th 4th 4th 4th 4th 4th 4th 4th 3rd 4th 4th 4th 4th 4th 4th 4th 3rd

  223. radfordkennedy

    Aug 30, 2015, 11:08 #74936

    Sometimes you have to think short term in football,and for me that time is now.someone mentioned Charlie Austin which for me is a very sensible shout,if were not carefull the pack leaders will be over the hill and far away,we must keep up so getting someone in who knows where the goal is even he doesnt quite fit AW's idea of an AFC player is a must,surely staying in the mix untill maybe the next window must be the clubs priority,i think someone will come but we all know he will be a bits n pieces player who plays anywhere hes told

  224. Know Man

    Aug 30, 2015, 10:44 #74935

    I have an idea, let's buy another number 29, whose 17, foreign, and may come good in a few years!

  225. Nozzer

    Aug 30, 2015, 10:36 #74934

    Its always Jam tomorrow for us. We are always a couple of players short. I cannot see Wenger signing anyone in the next couple of days and besides the squad should be in place prior to the first game. We are now linked with Mahrez from Leicester according to some reports on line. Another ball playing number 10/wide player who we don't need.

  226. Know Man

    Aug 30, 2015, 10:29 #74933

    Kev, Wenger once again demonstrated his ability to adapt tactics and game plan. They went down to 10 men, it meant they were going to defend deep. Theo could not get in behind, what did Wenger do, nothing. To be fair, he only has a lamppost on the bench. Did we miss Ozil, answer no. Ramsey, effected the match. Made runs, had shots, created chances and tackled. Yes, we're a striker short. It was always going to be a tough afternoon once they went down to 10 men, our failure is that Wally does not have the skill or strength to beat his defender or score. Wally, Giroud & Ozil are all inconsistent, they won't win us the league, they play well one game in 4. It's that one game that everyone remembers, especially Wenger!

  227. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    Aug 30, 2015, 10:26 #74932

    The side with the best striker will win the league this season, it is that black and white. Trouble is, who they gonna buy? I can honestly see this being one of the lowest scoring leagues in history. Look at WBA - they played against 9 men and still needed a goal from a corner!!

  228. KC

    Aug 30, 2015, 10:01 #74931

    Clockender, it's not simple knee jerk reaction it's simple football reality. The top sides have a top striker someone that can be the difference in games, we had them when we won the league, they are super important hence their transfer fees. Can all the pundits be wrong and why is Wenger trying to buy one if we don't require one, the sad thing about this is Wengers continued Scrooge like behaviour in the transfer market and his obsession of saving a million or two. Wenger and Levy both think their being smart but the reality is that they hurt their teams. Jackson Martinez was a great option and achievable but no move. We can not win the league with this squad still a striker and def midfielder short. Same story season after season it's very frustrating.

  229. Westlower

    Aug 30, 2015, 9:53 #74930

    For a team that is universally labelled as soft I thought they stood up well to intimidation & serial fouling. It shows how important it is to have a ref who is brave enough to give cards when deserved & not ignore rash tackles because it's early in the game. Is this clampdown on serial foulers part of Maureens problems? Coq looks better with every game and I prefer Ramsey to play alongside him with Cazorla & Theo on the bench. Play Ox on the right, Alexis on the left with Ozil given a free role behind the striker. Wellbeck & Jack are getting close to a return, so as Wenger repeatedly says unless a top quality player can be bought there's little point buying for the sake of it.

  230. goonercolesyboy

    Aug 30, 2015, 9:43 #74929

    This was an important win in light of the results of others and a welcome three points in a tough environment and a hugely partisan crowd. Nice confidence booster before the break even though the finishing left a lot to be desired. It appears that winning away from home is a lot easier so far this season, only 9 home wins this season in the premiership. Teams are set up even better and the quality divide is nowhere near as big, the results bear that out. Buying that top quality striker is of paramount importance for us, yet look at Liverpool who bought Benteke and have scored 2 goals in four games. So maybe he isn't that top quality but was bought for £32m!! The market is completely too high and valueless and as Westlower said in a previous article this is complete madness, wages etc completely out of control. We do have the money for that one marquee signing, but who is it? Benzema, Higuain, the Dortmund striker? I would take a punt on Charlie Austin, who I think would love the chance to play at a top club, is English, has proven top level goal scoring credentials and only £15m or so....Man City look ominously strong so far and it appears Chelsea are like the Aussies, Dads army, Terry, Ivanovic over the hill and the master tactician Mourinho struggling. Just seen that Hernandez at Man U is available too, and maybe he could be an addition, another proven goal scorer. So the international break is here and hopefully Welbeck and Wilshire will be back from their injuries and that goal scorer is signed in time for Stoke.

  231. Exeter Gunner

    Aug 30, 2015, 9:42 #74928

    Of course we don't need a goalscorer. This Welsh kid Owen Ghoal has knocked in 2 already. Yet another successful graduate from the youth academy.

  232. Smithy

    Aug 30, 2015, 9:38 #74927

    I agree with Kevin's comment as we are the kings of fannying about and lack any ruthless streak. Cavanni is the player who is available who could make a difference. Kos and Gabriel should be our first choice centres - per is too slow.hopefully we will sign a holding back up like tiote and cavanni. But I am sure sky won't have anything to report .

  233. clockender

    Aug 30, 2015, 9:35 #74926

    It's very simple mark from Aylesbury,there's not really any better options on the market.We have Giroud,Walcott,Sanchez and Welbeck to come back so it won't be long before the goals start going in,plus we have other younger options in the squad.Stop knee-jerking after every performance and have a mind that can see more than stupid headlines..Wenger doesn't want to sign anybody at the moment the same way he wasn't fussed about signing Ozil.Yet he knows he has to every now and again to keep the simple happy.

  234. RED FRED

    Aug 30, 2015, 9:27 #74925

    Wenger needs to decide soon who plays up front if we dont get a new striker because he is sapping the confidence out of both Giroud and Wally.It looks like he cant make up his mind which one to play. Giroud is the better player over a season and needs to play regular and Wally needs to go back on the right and also play regular if only to justify his huge salary. We still have no leader in the team and haven't had a decent captain since Vieira but on a lighter note Gabriel looks a quality centre back.

  235. deejay1952

    Aug 30, 2015, 9:24 #74924

    Hernandez would be a good buy and it would give him a chance to sample life in the capitol rather than a sh*****e

  236. Willard

    Aug 30, 2015, 9:17 #74923

    It's very obvious that we need an upgrade on Giroud/Walcott and have the money available, but the question is who is there that would be a genuine and obvious upgrade that would come? Benzema is not going to happen and I don't think he is the answer anyway. After that? I struggle to think of anyone. Is Mandzukic much better than Giroud? A little bit but not worth £30/£40 mill to upgrade slightly. Morata at Juve is about the only sensible name I can come up with.If Berahino is worth £25 million and is no better than Walcott, it will be very hard to get someone worthwhile.

  237. mark from Aylesbury

    Aug 30, 2015, 9:11 #74922

    Clockender - please name those players (plenty of them you say) who can come in and score 20 goals plus from our reserves because I don't see them. Either you believe in Giroud who is most likely but seems to be lacking confidence or not. Only a Spud would not want Arsenal to improve. Even Wenger is looking so why aren't you happy for us to go to the market. I say it again you are happy with perpetually failing. What a sorry world you live in.

  238. clockender

    Aug 30, 2015, 9:04 #74921

    This is the same thing we used to hear even when we had Henry playing,fans moaning so we bought Jeffers.Maybe we can get someone like Rooney who hasn't scored in his last ten league games or Harry Kane who's a complete donkey.Waste of time buying anybody as we have plenty of players who can't get a game at the moment.