Three vital points at Watford

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Three vital points at Watford


It was the kind of fixture that Arsenal had to take three points from if their aspirations to challenge for the title this season were to be proved genuine, and for the first 45 minutes, it looked as if they might be frustrated.

Watford’s defensive record at home before this game, one goal conceded in four matches, did not augur well. However, they had also only scored once in that time. In the first half, you could see why, as their forwards demonstrated their lack of quality, the most guilty culprit Anya missing a gilt-edged chance. The Gunners, during the opening 45 minutes, were far from convincing in defence. After shutting out Manchester United, one hoped for better. Cech and Mertersacker almost conspired to gift the home side a goal to aid the chances of Quique Flores’ side. Arsenal also had plenty of attacks, amidst their domination of possession, Aaron Ramsey missing their best chance by firing over from close range. Overall though, there appeared a lack of pace in the Gunners’ game, except for Theo Walcott falling for the offside trap. The new first choice centre forward had a relatively ineffectual game.

The second half was a tale of the visiting team gradually wear Watford down, and the chances were more at one end. Ozil had been relatively quiet for much of the game up to the first goal, but was key in the build up to Alexis’ conversion when it came. Would it have been a penalty had the Chilean not converted after Ozil was bundled over in the box? It saved the ref a tricky decision, but I suspect he might not have given it, arguing the defender had touched the ball first.

After that, it really did look like there was only going to be one result, and more good play from Ozil set up sub Giroud for the second. A third duly followed, with excellent attacking by Hector Bellerin to set up Ramsey. Going forward, there is no question the Spaniard is a real threat. If he could improve his defensive work, I suspect it won’t be long before the Spanish national side come calling (or worse still Barcelona).

So, a comprehensive victory after some early wobbles. Defensive focus needs to be worked on, and there is a definite argument that Gabriel and Koscielny are a more effective pair than Mertesacker and the Frenchman. When the high line does not produce an offside call, if the ball is played in behind Mertesacker, danger is almost inevitable, and Koscielny bailed his partner out on one notable occasion in the first half with a key interception. It will be interesting to see who is selected on Tuesday evening against Bayern.

With that fixture, I think we will see, allowing for a change at centre-back, a similar line-up to yesterday’s. Wenger will want to progress from the group stage if he can, and a win against the German champions, however difficult, would give them some hope. If the team fail to win, I think then we would see a lesser line-up for the return game in Munich. Realistically, Arsenal’s chances of winning the Premier League are always going to be better than winning the Champions League, at least until they find themselves in the last four, which hasn’t happened since 2009.

For now, domestic ambitions depend on picking up the points to stay in the mix and await the key fixtures against the main challengers. The attack is producing goals, but the defence needs to present less opportunities. Better forwards will take advantage. And sad to say it, that really means the BFG may have to take a place on the bench before the next time he is badly exposed leads to a goal.

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  1. mbg

    Oct 20, 2015, 14:31 #77649

    Cornish, indeed, i'm sure there's a reason, and not to hard to guess, like all AKB's he's always found out and shows his true colours in the end, but i'm sure he'll pop up again in some guise like most wengerites do after a break or a bit of worshiping at Central command after he has served his penance talking his usual martian and blather.

  2. jeff wright

    Oct 20, 2015, 11:36 #77638

    Your views on the Benzema saga Colesy are just what fits into the claims that Wenger was working night and day to sign him. It was all just a scam to help keep the punters at the Emirates quiet regarding the obvious lack of money that Stan was spending .Talk is cheap ,none>? We have seen this scenario regarding alleged signings being imminent numerous times since the snake oil salesman has been CEO at the club during transfer windows..... Regarding cars I have always gone for the big ones my first motor was a second hand MK10 Jag I have had various cars the years including an Opal Berliner with a fantastic Blaupunkt stereo system in it . Parking was a big problem years back though I lived at the Angel there were no private parking spaces in our street and after 6 at night you didn't need a parking permit this just conveniently suited the the Ballet/ opera crowd arriving for an evening at Sadler's Wells around the corner.So you had to be sure to get home in time to park outside your own house otherwise it could be miles away where you left your motor. I can't recall the powers that be were so accommodating to football supporters though parking their cars near stadia.Birmingham was a nightmare with young kids advising that you should pay them to look after your car because other kids around there would damage it otherwise !

  3. Paulo75

    Oct 20, 2015, 11:32 #77637

    Have a feeling we might pull this off tonight - would go with Chamberlain wide right, Ozil wide left and Sanchez through the middle. Not the sort of game we can afford Walcott or Giroud to take 3-4 chances to find the net. 16/5 the Arsenal or 221/ for 2-0 ... I'll keep taking the Prozac!

  4. Ron

    Oct 20, 2015, 10:56 #77636

    Westie - as it stands for them in that group, they can go and play that game tonight and actually enjoy it, no pressure. Will Wenger imbue that sense of freedom in them though? Not sure. I still think 1-1 but that 3-2 certainly isn't beyond the realms of possibility mate.

  5. Ron

    Oct 20, 2015, 10:41 #77635

    R/K - good little motor, the Dolomite. I had a Stag in early 80s. Do you recall them? A mechanical disaster but i loved it. When it was functioning, what a shifter it was. Shame it was like a 4 wheeled Diaby though!

  6. goonercolesyboy

    Oct 20, 2015, 10:08 #77634

    Thought we were done with the Benzema issue but seeing as jeff wants to regurgitate. As if he is going to now say he wanted to leave. The inside source from Madrid said the deal was more or less done, the president was happy for him to leave provided they found a replacement. They didn't. He stayed. Of course he can say he laughs with his family and friends when every transfer window comes around. I imagine most players do the same. Shame to see Jamerson leave but I feel he will return under another guise. His close to or over the edge posts were always worth a read. On that note, maybe jeff doesn't drive due to his beliefs, I am sure he will reveal all.

  7. Made Up Stat

    Oct 20, 2015, 9:26 #77633

    Bye.

  8. Westlower

    Oct 20, 2015, 8:37 #77632

    Different thought of the day: Players lose matches, not managers. It's about time the Bavarians lost a football match. Fire up the Quattro! AFC 3 Bavarians 2 at Odds of 28/1.

  9. Mark from Aylesbury

    Oct 20, 2015, 8:37 #77631

    Badarse - get your point and have to be careful mocking others believes. Reason think there may be a bit of an issue is the build up of grandiosity I.e he is already saved. His message was basically he could do whatever he wants as he is an annointed one or some such stuff. I think there may be a hotch potch of stuff or more likely an episode. Reason I always have a word with him is he wanders off into homophobia and racism which cannot be allowed on an inclusive site

  10. Radfordkennedy

    Oct 20, 2015, 8:30 #77630

    Hello badarse hope you doing well mate, I'm very much still alive but haven't had the time to post, I took the deliberate decision three years ago not to go on anyone's full time wage list even on a seasonal basis in France I do a job and command a fee giving me a bit of freedom, trouble is when you get to a certain age people know you are reliable and the phone doesn't stop ringing I've never been so busy and I'm the sort of bloke who won't leave anyone I like in a spot, thank god the winters coming I can off over to Burford or near go walking and not have to talk to anyone for hours bliss!

  11. Badarse

    Oct 20, 2015, 8:22 #77629

    Firstly CGO that Jensen was a beautifully shaped motor, So good for you. Here is another bone I'd like to toss into the ring though. I drove the 'Sweeney' Gold Ford Granada.

  12. Badarse

    Oct 20, 2015, 8:10 #77628

    Good morning radfordkennedy. I was thinking of you yesterday-not an erotic fantasy I might add. I got to thinking if a regular poster 'pops his clogs', as C/G's grandmother might say, how would we ever know? Just intriguing. @Mark from Aylesbury the passage of change you talk of was much more muddied than you state. I think you have missed a trick. I believe Jamerson is a Jehovah's, and has always presented that image to me, or something quite similar. That is his business and his personality changes are part of his act. All acceptable as long as that line isn't overstepped. He isn't alone in doing that though. In 'real' life a bloke who fronts you off may not be the most pleasant of individuals but is up front in his actions. The person who whispers to another, (makes the bullets for others to fire) and scurries away, the one who resorts to name calling, those that steam in mob-handed when they think an opponent is down, the sniper hiding in the bushes, are all reprehensible, as well as the homophobe, the fascist, and the chauvinist. Check out the sequence of posts regarding the jam jar.

  13. Charlie George Orwell

    Oct 20, 2015, 7:59 #77627

    In the late 70s and early 80s, a friend of a friend ran a one man garage in Torrens Street, at the back of the old Angel tube station. One day, he let me - a spotty teenage nerk without a driving licence - drive a Jensen Interceptor on my own. Admittedly, it was only for about 50 yards - but Wow!

  14. Radfordkennedy

    Oct 20, 2015, 7:34 #77626

    Morning all....all this talk of classic cars made me think do you all remember that day when you were informed by your beloved that your beautiful car had to go and you had to get something sensible instead for the forthcoming new arrival, which in my case meant losing my much loved Dolomite sprint for a bloody Escort estate.....good luck to the boys tonight up the gunners

  15. A Cornish Gooner

    Oct 19, 2015, 22:13 #77625

    Mark. Strange that all his old posts have gone from this thread and no new ones today. Ron/Baddie My Grandmother back home in Yorkshire was an amateur wrestler/weightlifter. She had a 1962 Teflon Classic frying pan.

  16. Badarse

    Oct 19, 2015, 19:38 #77624

    Always happy to concede ground when required Ron, but not this time I am afraid. The car was a Capri-7 years before the name was 'apprehended' and placed on the hatchback 'Capris'. In 62-63 they were referred to as Capris and Classics, bought and sold accordingly. My gripe was not over nomenclature but the antagonistic post which followed. Anyway...'Taxi!'

  17. jeff wright

    Oct 19, 2015, 19:33 #77623

    Real Madrid striker Karim Benzema has admitted that rumours linking him with a move to Arsenal were laughable, as the player confirms he is extremely happy at the Santiago Bernabeu. The French international was the talk of intense speculation through out the summer transfer window, with various reports ( Ivan the spin doctor at work )to Premier League giants Arsenal before the close of the transfer deadline on September 1st. Benzema and his pals laughed at the claims of him joining "Despite Gunners supporters waiting for any sort of news regarding a deadline day move, the transfer did not materialise, and the 27-year-old has confirmed that a deal to North London was never on the cards." Oh ! Now who would ever have thought that then ... Well some on here did,right Colesyboy,and you call others mugs! You couldn't make it up.

  18. Ron

    Oct 19, 2015, 19:32 #77622

    Yes. Westie lad and we all know how you maximized the benefits of those bench seats in that Westminster dont we, you devilish blighter. I bet there was no gear lever to interfere either, unless of course you were a back seat man? Column change was it mare? Im onto you and i bet the Farmer was! ha

  19. A Cornish Gooner

    Oct 19, 2015, 19:07 #77621

    Not sure if it's identity theft on my pc or the work of the Lord, but Jamerson seems to have disappeared from these posts. Any ideas?

  20. mbg

    Oct 19, 2015, 18:27 #77620

    I see the welsh pope (to some anyway)has been elevated to OGL's side kick for tomorrows pre match shindig, it's surprising what a lucky goal does for you, he can still talk a good game (can't they all) but certainly not in wally's class, more schooling needed.

  21. jeff wright

    Oct 19, 2015, 18:20 #77619

    Badarse I suggest you stick to posting unintelligibly gibberish about football because your attempts at appearing to be knowledgeable on old cars are like an old banger with a flat tyre lurching along in a cloud of burning rubber, hopeless. I liked Colesyboy's reminiscences of his old car best - it would have had two stickers on the windscreen with Mike on his side and Sharon on the the other and fake leopard skin on the seats with a pair of claret and blue fluffy dice dangling from the inside mirror - and a ,Come On You Irons ! sticker in the back window. The car's horn played I'm forever blowing bubbles when tooted. He is still driving it.

  22. Westlower

    Oct 19, 2015, 18:11 #77618

    No one has picked up on a free scoring, raiding FB named Carl Jenkinson. The lad is scoring for fun. Just to get my tuppence worth in about cars. My first car was a 1952 850cc side valve Morris Minor, more a lawn mower than a car. No heater or any mod cons, known by my mates as the 'ice box.' Passed my test in a Hillman Imp. The first flash car I drove was an Austin Westminster belonging to a girlfriends father (rich farmer). First time I clocked a ton, at midnight with the lights turned off, coming home half pissed from the Saturday night dance.

  23. Ron

    Oct 19, 2015, 17:47 #77616

    Baddie . im re naming you 'Teflon Badarse'. you slid through on a technicality in yr dispute with AKB really. You did say it was the 'Capri' built for just 2 yrs way back when and didnt say 'Consul Capri' or 'Classic Capri' or whatever bud ha ha. AKB s apology was arguably premature. A stickler for detail shd have been more precise and then AKB would nt have resorted to Roy Keane vernacular towards you, though that was funny!! All over a flippin car argument. Oh look, heres Gooner colesy bringing his Hillman Imp now. Helmets on! It gets worse on here Baddie. The other day we were all up in arms tearing each others throats out over Irish history and we all got red carded by the web site man didn't we. That was only JJ winding up the temperature. Have to laugh where some of the exchanges take us on here don't you. We are a rum lot has to be said.

  24. Hiccup

    Oct 19, 2015, 17:26 #77615

    Baddie, the sky blue colour wasn't introduced to the Capri until '64. Are you sure it wasn't British Racing Green?

  25. Badarse

    Oct 19, 2015, 17:15 #77614

    Sorry to disappoint Ron, but perhaps that day will dawn, eh? Thanks to Cornish and Mark for the input, it's good to have another step in and defuse. My Dad had a left hand drive Nash Rambler Estate which he encouraged me to drive under 'L' plates to Maidstone and back through the London traffic in the 'rush hour'. It was a column change, and the handbrake was a footbrake, which had to be released by lifting the catch with your toecap, or in your case jeff, with your sandals. Happy days. Blimey I sound like the 'Fonz'.

  26. Badarse

    Oct 19, 2015, 16:51 #77613

    Sometimes we take a step forward by moving backwards. Hang on that's 'Back to the Future' stuff. Perhaps from here we can move a little more in step ArseneKnewBest. Our own event horizon-without the wormholes. Apology accepted. No shame in being proven wrong I didn't appreciate the suggestion I was incorrect with accompanying digs. Respect now, eh? My Capri was a sky blue and white motor, virtually all were two-tone. It was a pillarless coupe. Both windows wound down and it just made for a huge aperture. It was around 1300cc and the body was too heavy for the engine size, but it looked cool. They are collector's items now. I climbed off my red Lambretta 150cc, with red and black horizontal striped side panels and about a dozen lights on the front frame. Hung up my Parka and slipped into my Capri. 'A time it was, and what a time it was. It was a time of innocence. A time of confidences.'

  27. jeff wright

    Oct 19, 2015, 16:41 #77612

    Some rather revealing comments from Arsene made after the euphoria of beating Watford regarding the two embarrassing defeats in the opening two champions league games.He admitted to underestimating our opponents saying perhaps we did think 'oh we can beat them'.What he really means is t that he thought they were going to be easy to beat and he did not need a first team to do this. Jesus wept this clown gets paid 8m a year to get these calls right and yet never learns but goes on making the same mistakes every season. City spent 100m on two new players who both made a big impact in their win on Saturday with keys players such as Aguero and Silva out. If Wenger loses Sanchez or le Coq or even both he is in trouble.Never mind there is 200m in the club accounts helping to make Stan's business plan work. It's the important things that count.

  28. goonercolesyboy

    Oct 19, 2015, 16:16 #77611

    I had a Hillman imp with the engine in the rear, aluminium head. Noisiest car I ever owned. Then a mini which my then girlfriend's brother in law had an unusual bonnet that lifted up and folded back with clips rather than a bonnet lid. Did enjoy those days of proper small cars. Let's hope we start the game tomorrow like Napoli last year or Utd this season. Must win and hope Olympiacos and Zagreb draw both their games. Not beyond the realms but it really shouldn't be like this, although when did we do anything easy?

  29. mbg

    Oct 19, 2015, 16:14 #77610

    Lets get back on topic folks, one has being allowed to divert attention from an old past it manager for long enough, as westie correctly points out players win games not managers, is our old fraud actually needed at all ?wenger out.

  30. Ron

    Oct 19, 2015, 15:49 #77609

    Late Bro in law used to have one of those Anglias. Needed your wellingtons on and cape round you when it rained. It was drier outside! Then he bought a Triumph Herald.Even worse once the floor rotted through! Weren't cars wonderful back then lads. The shed used to be permanently full of tins of ISOPON (i think it was) running repairs on the sills. Any Allegro drivers out there or are have they all met their maker! Happy days though.

  31. Arseneknewbest

    Oct 19, 2015, 15:30 #77608

    Badarse - I apologise. Just checked it out and you're right and I'm wrong on the Capri issue. Sorry.

  32. Mark from Aylesbury

    Oct 19, 2015, 15:30 #77607

    Right here with my 2 penneth worth. A ford consul Capri wth rear fins was produced in 62 - note it is a 2 door ford consul. In 69 the Ford Mustang designer created a euro version and they grabbed the name Capri so a mk1 Capri with hatchback was from 69. Seen this sort of thing with watches I.e an Omega cosmic was a moon phase watch in the 50's or reused as a name for a stainless steel sports watch in the 70's. Hope that helps

  33. Arseneknewbest

    Oct 19, 2015, 15:19 #77606

    We wait with bated breath. I reckon badarse now wishes instead that he had a grey cortina, whiplash aerial racing trim... My old man (who actually was a west ham fan!) had a zodiac and the back doors used to open round corners. Pretty hairy.

  34. A Cornish Gooner

    Oct 19, 2015, 15:18 #77605

    Ron. Not today I'm afraid. I think Baddie is correct. The Classic Capri (with wings) was only made for a couple of years 62-63 I believe. Re. Jackie Pallo (real name Jack Ernest Gutteridge, cousin of Reg Gutteridge) I once met him on holiday on Capri.

  35. Mark from Aylesbury

    Oct 19, 2015, 15:13 #77604

    My dad had a Vauxhall Viscount absolute boat of a car. Based on the Chevi Impala I believe. Brought cheap during the oil crisis. Those were the days!

  36. Ron

    Oct 19, 2015, 15:01 #77603

    PS Ford Capri s never had 'rear wings'either. Hatched backs. You should admit that youre wrong to AKB Badarse for being totally and completely misinformed. Go on, the whole site will throw up a collective cheer as history is made.

  37. Ron

    Oct 19, 2015, 14:32 #77602

    I bought a 1979 18 month old 1.6 CC Capri in 1980, if that helps? Silver grey, red interior. Great motor. Brilliant for handbrake stops in the wet weather and ice on the housing estates near to where we lived. One of the best motors i ever had. An hour and 40. Warwick to Torquay on a good day! Racing my mates who had Hillman Hunters, Cortinas (great motors too) and Triumph Spitfires (not so great!!) Great times though im not so sure Torquay wanted us to stay for too much longer than we did!!

  38. Ron

    Oct 19, 2015, 14:21 #77601

    Westie - So funny hearing that name 'Billy Two Rivers! I used to pretend i was him play fighting with my Dad. He used to nickname me 'Two Rivers'. Ha. Great childhood memories pretending to do forearm smashes and getting 'submissions' off my Dad. Thanks mate.

  39. Badarse

    Oct 19, 2015, 14:15 #77600

    The Ford Capri, only made in '62 and '63 was the sister car of the Ford Classic. Both made for just a couple of years. The Ford Classic had an inverted rear window as did the Ford Anglia-my brother had a Classic. The Capri, styled on The Chevrolet Impala's rear sweeping wings was arguably England's answer to the Ford Thunderbird in the States. The Capri became a collector's item and is a classic. The classic didn't and certainly isn't a capri. Quit the name calling AKBest, I am embarrassed for you.

  40. Arseneknewbest

    Oct 19, 2015, 13:55 #77599

    As Roy Keane said to Mick McCarthy, Stick it up yer bollix badarse. You're wrong. Look up the Ford Capri's history on wikipedia you numpty. We're getting bored of this now...let's have something new - perhaps a piece about your 18th dishwasher...

  41. mbg

    Oct 19, 2015, 13:54 #77598

    Anyone considering visiting Ireland anytime soon please reconsider as serious rioting and disorder taking place after Daniel is voted of strictly.

  42. Badarse

    Oct 19, 2015, 13:33 #77597

    Tried to side step the '62 Capri didn't you AKBest? Embarrassing to be proved incorrect, isn't it? As for banging of heads together it would make for an interesting attempt. Stick to football, at least you coming up short on that subject is pretty sterile.

  43. chris dee

    Oct 19, 2015, 13:24 #77596

    Ramsey is played out wide on the right because both Walcott and Oxlade who have played there many times,do absolutely zilch when it comes to helping out the defence or our right full back. They both play the position as if they were still in their school team. Oh, for another Geordie Armstrong or Freddie.

  44. Arseneknewbest

    Oct 19, 2015, 13:08 #77595

    Ron - wrestling reminiscences seem much more fun than fretting about tomorrow, or banging westarse's and badlower's heads together. I possibly got into it a little later than you, but watching wrestling on TV from some dank, smoke-filled hall was the perfect time filler before the results started coming in on a Saturday. Apart from the two fatties who were ubiquitous, and Kendo N, I fondly remember Tally Ho Kaye (who dressed up like Harvey Smith?), and Jim Breaks whose schtick involved making clicking noises in his mouth in lieu of actually breaking his opponents' fingers. And Mark "Rollerball" Rocco, the Leeds-based Italian with a mean hand-on-head headbutt. My mum would feed me raw carrots in front of the box to keep me quiet til the shepherd's pie was ready. Now where's me '62 Capri....

  45. GoonerRon

    Oct 19, 2015, 13:04 #77594

    @ west lower - Robben not in the squad for tomorrow night. Good news and one less thing for us to worry about.

  46. Tony. Evans

    Oct 19, 2015, 12:59 #77593

    A good result but to be honest was more interested in the rugby at the weekend. Really felt for Scotland after some appalling refereeing cost them the victory. Liked the wrestling memories and remember the football score updates appearing at the bottom of the TV screen whilst my dad was engrossed with the likes of Catweasel and Tally Ho Kaye.

  47. Westlower

    Oct 19, 2015, 12:43 #77592

    @GoonerRon, Bellerin & Monreal will need to be on top of their game to keep Robben quiet as he drifts from wing to wing. No one better at diving in or around the box. Young Bellerin will learn much tomorrow.

  48. GoonerRon

    Oct 19, 2015, 12:06 #77591

    Good win and continues the momentum we've built up in the league of late. Bellerin is rightly getting plenty of praise but I also think Monreal is playing incredibly consistently and has been for months.

  49. Badarse

    Oct 19, 2015, 11:59 #77590

    Oh goodness me, here is another bone for AKBest to 'catch'. My Dad back home in Yorkshire was an amateur wrestler/weightlifter-he also practised 'catch as catch can' wrestling. Drove past, (not into), Jackie Pallo's house a number of years ago. In his large spacious garden/drive he had quite a few Saab cars-half a dozen maybe. He perhaps had an obsession, who knows-perhaps Watts does. They were still there a while after his death, possibly still there now.

  50. Bard

    Oct 19, 2015, 11:59 #77589

    Westie I always enjoy the match day experience. Whatever the result I comforted that we have a terrific business model and have a few hundred mill in the bank

  51. Westlower

    Oct 19, 2015, 11:48 #77588

    @Ron, Greg Dyke in his time at ITV got rid of Kent Walton because he presented the wrong image to advertisers & viewers. We all know now what a good judge of character Greg Dyke is? Yes I do remember all the tag team matches. We all knew it was bent but it was good entertainment, much like dog racing in that era. Billy Two Rivers, there's a name to stir a memory or two. For the positive minded, Sanchez to score first & Arsenal win pays 32/1. For the fence sitters Lewandowski to score first and the game ends in a draw pays 20/1. For the negative hoards, Robben to score first & BM win, pays 11/1. @Bard, Enjoy a game being played at the highest level, Arsenal v Swindon, Luton, Birmingham it isn't.

  52. mbg

    Oct 19, 2015, 11:38 #77587

    ArseneKnewBest, and it's not hard to do whenever we can be bothered.

  53. mbg

    Oct 19, 2015, 11:08 #77586

    ArseneKnewBest, no doubt he's been there, done that too.

  54. Born Gooner

    Oct 19, 2015, 10:16 #77585

    Not forgetting the odd granny who used to give the baddie a few whacks with her handbag...

  55. Ron

    Oct 19, 2015, 10:04 #77584

    Westie - ha ha. Kent Walton was the commentator! I was raised on Vic Faulkner and Bert Royal. Dad loved it and im sure he thought it was all genuine bless him. Do you recall the tag bouts with Logan and Mc Manus. I used to love it as a kid. The good guys v the bad. What with wall to wall Westerns on the TV, Joe Baker on a Sat aft, what more did we need!!

  56. Badarse

    Oct 19, 2015, 10:03 #77583

    Bard, if we score and go ahead in the match tomorrow how will you react? Spreading your cape and hissing through fanged teeth is not enough. Me? Well I always kiss my wife, (or for AKBest, anyone else's nearby), and jump about a bit. When my grandson's team went in front yesterday near the end of the game I roared and threw my arms in the air-don't worry I did catch them as they came down. Just wondering that's all. Are you ever lost in the moment? I know mbg gets lost in Penneys and jj has lost his way permanently, but how about yourself? I cannot imagine an Arsenal fan sitting on his hands as we lead and then using the, 'I told you so' attitude if they equalise. It seems a little cowardly to me.

  57. Bard

    Oct 19, 2015, 9:47 #77582

    Westie I am hoping tomorrow will be a terrific match day experience becoming of a well run club the result is immaterial really.

  58. Westlower

    Oct 19, 2015, 9:37 #77581

    Thought of the day: Players win matches, not managers. Just ask Maureen?

  59. Badarse

    Oct 19, 2015, 9:36 #77580

    Am going to enjoy this AKBest. I pull legs but make it obvious, the truth is that too-obvious. I had a 1962 two-tone Ford Capri Coupe, the 2 plus 2 version of the Ford Classic-the other Ford with the inverted rear window. I will throw you a bone though as I never drove into or through a wall-as my 'Rainman' persona might say, 'Whos on first base, Watts on second? and my driving is excellent, Charlie Babbage.' Stick with it 24601, second in the league, coming off the back of 5 wins out of 6 and two consecutive 3-0 wins and still they whine. Uriah Heeps!

  60. Westlower

    Oct 19, 2015, 9:14 #77579

    @AKB, It's so difficult to tell you negative posters apart. After 3 successive wins and 11 goals, you'd think the gloom & doom brigade would be bit more cheery. Perhaps the odds for tomorrow will brighten your day: AFC 3/1, Draw 3/1, BM 10/11. First goalscorer: Lewandowski 4/1, Sanchez 7/1. Enjoy!

  61. Arseneknewbest

    Oct 19, 2015, 9:00 #77578

    Err west-man, I think you might be the be-fuddled/mentally menstruating one. 82161 was written by an alias (surely you could tell that) I'd have taken some of your shaky odds that you knew it was a p*ss-poor badarsian offering. And why offer appy poppy loggies to someone who has more double standards than Phil the Power has double tops?

  62. Westlower

    Oct 19, 2015, 8:39 #77577

    @AKB Apology accepted. I think you may be at that time of the month when you're suffering from PMS or in your case CL tension. Maybe you'll get some relief tomorrow. Bring on the Bavarians. I hear that Weiner Schnitzel is a bit tasty but a bit on the thin side, so our defenders should handle him ok. @Ron, I'm ashamed to admit that I saw Pallo & McManus in their pomp. Can't remember if Kent Walton was there or not.

  63. DW Thomas

    Oct 19, 2015, 0:31 #77576

    Agree about Ramsey. Works hard, mostly, but tries stupid backheels and his shooting is awful!! We need Jack and Welbeck to go the full season. Ozil when he wants is brilliant, but lets see how he does vs BM. Great players play great in the big games. As for the win, dont we always beat the minnows only to lose to the bigger fish? And we fall short for the same reasons again!

  64. Arseneknewbest

    Oct 18, 2015, 23:05 #77575

    ...Imitation is the greatest form of flattery. Mug the muggers is what I say.

  65. Arseneknewbest

    Oct 18, 2015, 22:06 #77574

    Badarsio - I know how keen you are keen on pedantry - at least when judging other people's contributions - so I know you won't mind me offering you some automotive re-education. The only way you could have owned a 1962 Capri would be if you had appeared as the UK's answer to Marty McFly in some delorean-inspired version of Back to the Future. Given that that was a film in which the young protagonist had to fight off the amorous advances of his own mother (gulp!), it's not difficult to see an interesting picture developing of your life, further evidenced of course by that recent, delectable vignette about how you lost your badarsian cherry to an, ahem, older lady. I cannot wait for your autobiography comrade. It'll take pride of place on my bookshelves with the ones by Jordan and Peter Andre. Westie - you old hypodermic. You're the king of non-sequiturs, prattling on about gambling odds when we're on here discussing the travails of a poorly run football team.

  66. Badarse

    Oct 18, 2015, 20:56 #77573

    Watford. What Ford? My Dad had a Ford V8 Pilot, I had a Ford Angular, well it was after I drove through a wall. Also had a two-tone Ford Capri Coupe 1962 vintage, and had lots of Dinky toys. Now, please get back on subject, and that includes you mbg, here this vocabulary might help. Just put the words in a bag, shake it up, then randomly drop them into a post-no one will notice the ruse. Fraud, old, pansies, messiah, disciples, TOF, old, dwarfs, tippy tappy, god, wellies, old, gnomes, To Do is to Dare, little technicians, old, couldn't agree more, saviour, BBQ invites, sly grin, old, smirk, lightweight, bobble hats, old, Brylcreem and of course-past it. Enjoy. Oh, one question, where do you crawl off to?

  67. Mark from Aylesbury

    Oct 18, 2015, 20:44 #77572

    Jamerson - previously I have suggested that you may be a member of the illuminati , a grand poobar annointed one and a shape shifting lizard, courtesy of the ex Coventry city goalkeeper David Icke. Looks like we agree. Have to say though that Westlower is right let's talk Watford Arsenal. Well dreadful Arsenal defending mixed with impressive forward play. Err have we not seen this occasionally before?

  68. Westlower

    Oct 18, 2015, 20:29 #77571

    Girls, girls, we're drifting a long way off discussing the Watford game. Concentrate!!

  69. Arseneknewbest

    Oct 18, 2015, 19:50 #77570

    Liked the wrestling allusion Ron, but Jamie son is the spit and image of Adrian Street. MBG - fair enough, but I was thinking about my own needs a bit there. I can barely watch the CL disappointments so seeing Arsenal lose away to Trachia (Sp) Plovdiv, Dukla Prague or Locomotive Leipzig might make me think about shuffling off this mortal coil...I agree though that Weng deserves a few trips to exotic places like Donetsk and, er, totting-ham. Bard - thanks for the tip mate - I'm henceforth self-censoring the bigoted musings of the execrable Jamee son. My missus invited me to watch Dahntahn abbey ce soir. I laughed in her face and made some scathing comments about it how it reinforces the class system in modern Britain. That told her! So not all WOBs are under the thumb (and sorry to disappoint you Jamie about being straight you terrible homophobe).

  70. Hiccup

    Oct 18, 2015, 19:47 #77569

    Well spotted mags. Santi's trying to get hold of giroud's hand to complete the circle. The formation and movement looks good, but the timing needs working on. I'm sure with more practice, the routine will be working perfectly for Tuesday.

  71. mbg

    Oct 18, 2015, 19:25 #77568

    Hiccup, you just have to look at the accompanying photo five nice boys preened to the last, smelling like a boots aftershave counter, one even making sure the others hair is sitting right, playing ring a ring of rosies we all fall down, it says it all about this old fraud of a manager and his bunch of pansies.

  72. Jude

    Oct 18, 2015, 19:22 #77567

    Our esteemed manager's inclusion of Ramsey out wide is still a case of round pegs in square holes, but even a broken clock is right twice a day. I'm afraid bundling in a goal doesn't validate the decision to persist with the boy. His finishing is woeful. He should consider himself lucky that Jack, Danny, and Tomas are injured because he's not good enough to be in the team. There is and always will be more to football than running your socks off in my opinion.

  73. Hiccup

    Oct 18, 2015, 19:19 #77566

    Guys, as you've twigged on I don't wear the trousers in my household. Unfortunately, X Factor takes precedent over Strictly on a Sunday, so I'll be watching it later on catch-up. Would greatly appreciate it if you wouldn't let on who gets voted off tonight. Cheers, and thanks in advance.

  74. Ron

    Oct 18, 2015, 19:04 #77565

    Ha ha, Good one Hiccup. Westie as Kent Walton,Jamie as Dickie Davies. Gooner Colesey as Jackie Pallo and Baddie as Mick McManus. On the feigming and conning mate, the give away is how the players on both sides accept it. They even laugh together about a quality con or swallow dive and pat the player on the head who gets red as he walks off jovially muttering 'ill get you when its my turn next time' except for the naive ones like Coquelin who still havent learned its all fair game to get pens and players sent off. Its a total joke now, even the refs enjoy it!

  75. jeff wright

    Oct 18, 2015, 17:58 #77563

    Arseneknewbest,Wenger's put himself in the current position in Europe that he is because of his arrogance and also due to the weak squad he has put together . I suggested weeks back that he would play his best sides in the league and use second string players in Europe last night we saw that again he clearly overrated players like Ospina based on Prem form.The man is an accountant obsessed with making money , not least for himself. His decisions are based on what is best financially for the club and himself and ensuring Champions League football for next season is always the priority for him over trying to actually win the tournament in the current one. He even admitted this himself so there can be no doubt about it when he said, fourth place is the first trophy to be won. So no big surprise really that domestic league results are getting talked up by him . He claims now though that winning the Prem is what he is trying to do ,just looks like deja vu past seasons to me with us being an injury or loss of form to Sanchez away from a struggle to make top the 4 .Wenger's only just managed that on more than one occasion by the odd point .

  76. A Cornish Gooner

    Oct 18, 2015, 17:55 #77562

    Bard. Sound advice. You may have noticed it's worked for me.

  77. Bard

    Oct 18, 2015, 17:22 #77561

    Colseyboysetc; You have got a bee in your bonnet about mbg. Youre always moaning about his posts. It seems like a case of 'he who doth protest too much'. Here is a little trick I have used on this site. If you dont like a particular poster dont read their contributions. It works a treat

  78. Hiccup

    Oct 18, 2015, 17:00 #77560

    Hi Ron. I'm beginning to wonder if all this play acting and feigning injury is just as preplanned as in wrestling, and by all parties concerned. On 20 minutes the full back will deliberately flick his mitten glove in the vicinity of someone's six pack. The player hits the deck. All the crowd have seen it, but the ref is conveniently preoccupied ensuring the coaches don't encroach from their technical areas. The crowd go wild as they realise the ref has missed it. To make it the complete spectacle, it would be great if the excitable AKB's came on to the pitch in their headscarves and started hitting the perpetuator with their handbags. Just like the great days with wrestling on World Of Sport.

  79. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    Oct 18, 2015, 16:41 #77559

    Jamerson; keep taking the tablets son. Meanwhile AFC chalk up a good solid 3-0 win away to eager but ulitmately limited opposition. Won't be like that on Tuesday though.

  80. Mark from Aylesbury

    Oct 18, 2015, 16:40 #77558

    Jameeson - the problem is you are living in the modern world using modern methods of communication. Therefore you have to play by modern rules. I'm not sure where this old time religionist has come from , it appears to be a new personality, as previously you have admitted carousing and hard drinking with your brother, pretty sure you mentioned woman. So along with the odd slave stuff you came out with,. It does make me wonder if you have s multi personality thing going on. Anyway you'll just get yourself banned again so I'll leave it up to you Not

  81. mbg

    Oct 18, 2015, 15:55 #77557

    ArseneKnewBest, I couldn't agree more, but you what ? it would be proper justice and comeuppance for wenger and all the AKB's and wengerites who supported him and sang his name after all the embarrassments and humiliations over the last eight, nine years, what a come down for them and him, the ropey cup what a blow for and to his massive ego it will/would be worth it to see.

  82. goonercolesyboy

    Oct 18, 2015, 15:22 #77556

    Have you ever played a game of football Muguiresbridge? Are you bald? Don't shower? Always have a scowl on your face? Shave every day? What else have you got in your locker of negativity about the players or management at Arsenal?

  83. mbg

    Oct 18, 2015, 15:18 #77555

    Badarse, I'm quite sure it was just a figure of speech but crawl across a minefield to just to catch a glimpse of a game ? even or especially an Arsenal one, would you really ? I certainly wouldn't and I doubt very much anyone on here would no matter what they say, but I know of real men that have many years ago and know real men that still do, (and we all will again in the coming weeks) and they've all suffered the consequences, just so we all can watch football matches, God only knows what we'd be watching now if they hadn't, or weren't still doing.

  84. Arseneknewbest

    Oct 18, 2015, 15:00 #77554

    Jeff - If Arsenal don't win against BM, and I doubt they will, then they need ensure that they finish fourth in their group. Thursday nights will like a kiss of death for players and fans. You'd also want the club to use their financial nous and conclude that they'd be better trying to have a successful domestic campaign than arseing around with the Europa. And I cannot imagine OGL in his dotage thinking that the Thursday night cup is worth winning. Thursdays and Sundays will slaughter the squad and it'll come to nought.

  85. mbg

    Oct 18, 2015, 14:33 #77553

    Hiccup the power of hair gel.

  86. jeff wright

    Oct 18, 2015, 14:25 #77552

    One of those horses for courses wins last night Watford has been an happy hunting ground for us over the years and we have played worse than last night and won against them. It didn't tell us much really other than what we already knew anyway,but in the greater scheme of things it was 3 points to help keep Arsene in the mix for a Champions League spot next season. If he is still with us then that is. A glance at the league table shows that City are still top and that their not so noisy neighbours these days United - who according to some are only and average side - are despite this level with us on points with just a narrow G/D between us due to our 3-0 win against them. WHU who beat us 2-0 at home are just 2 points behind us with Leicester - who some find it convenient to big-up - as they were doing Palace at one time as well ,you couldn't make it up, are just 3 points adrift of us. You need a pair of binoculars to spot Chelsea labouring away down field in 11th place on 11 points albeit they beat us when we played them. So all in all not much to get excited about really in what has been so far a topsy turvy sort of a season that just proves how average the Prem really is. Things look a bit clearer though in Europe where we languish in bottom place in our group and have Bayern Munich up next on Tuesday night - they look as though they are playing football on another planet to us - but football often throws up surprises at times.I will be surprised though if there is a shock result on Tuesday night considering our defensive woes because it was obvious that a better side than Watford would have taken advantage of some of the chances that they had and Pep is unlikely to make the tactical mistakes that LVG did. He helped to make sure of that by selling him Swinesteiger ! As others have said fingers crossed that plodding Per is left out and also that Wenger plays Cech in goal - he had a bit of a panicky erratic moment at one point last last night and if Wenger goes gung-ho leaving us open to quick counter-attacks will have to be on his toes to deal with this.At least if we do suffer an embarrassing early exit from the Champions League we have the man in charge who can come up with an explanation for it . After all he has had donkey's years of practice at doing so.

  87. mbg

    Oct 18, 2015, 14:16 #77551

    Very vital three points for us indeed in our pursuit of third place made a hell of a lot easier by poor relegation fodder Watford, who didn't help their cause by standing back and admiring and showing to much respect while we tickled their bellies with tippy tappy through spaces you could drive the team coach through. Even at that we were making hard work of it (what's new) until TOF's saviour this season (he has always one) popped up to save his and our blushes (yet again) by leaving it even more open for our little technicians, even so still not one of our best performances, maybe as usual we thought we just had to turn up beards and hair groomed and looking and smelling nice and just go out and play at least it didn't backfire this time thanks to the opposition. Three points for us to celebrate, and indeed done so by the players what was all the high fiveing and back slapping at the end ? and the sly smirk and grin from TOF ? did we win something ? all we needed was the bouncing to start did the players and OGL think that was the last game of the season ? that would explain it.

  88. Bard

    Oct 18, 2015, 13:11 #77550

    Comfortable win considering we played the first 60 mins without a centre forward. Does anyone seriously believe that Theo is anything more than a super sub? I really like the look of Bellerin, he could be some player. BFG needs to be put out of his misery, my god he was slow yesterday. Maybe Gabriel will start on Tuesday when we have a proper test.

  89. goonercolesyboy

    Oct 18, 2015, 13:04 #77549

    This Theo bashing is all unfair. As a player with one of the biggest assets, his pace, the defenders are unsure of whether to keep a high line and press the ball or drop a little deeper and cover the runs. Initially they tried the former and caught him offside a couple of times very tight calls, but eventually the mental fatigue and physicality of their runs up and back taken their toll. Then the spaces open up and offers Sanchez for example even more room to work his magic. After the first goal, on came Giroud and he took advantage of their tiring legs as the game stretched and nicked a goal. Plus offered something different by holding the ball up and bringing others into play. As someone wrote, a combination of the two would be ideal but not sure who that is on the world stage right now, Lewondoski perhaps?

  90. jjetplane

    Oct 18, 2015, 12:46 #77548

    Website admin re 82107 see penultimate line - highly inflammatory language which I am suprised is still standing but as this club is not a million miles from the Chelski model there is no suprise. Ugly.

  91. Westlower

    Oct 18, 2015, 12:07 #77546

    As I pointed out last week, AFC have had a poor record playing away at Watford, winning once from 6 attempts back in the 80's. Since then Wenger teams have won 3/3 + an FA Cup win. Some posters suggested we were lucky, but 6 shots on target to Watford's one tells a different story. If you want a definition of lucky, how about Chelsea's 2 sh*tty goals? How did Ramsey not score in the 30th minute? Thankfully he scored late on & now he's off the mark there's no reason why the goals shouldn't flow again for him. As already stated Theo was the disappointment. A player with the combined strengths of Giroud & Theo is ideally what we need but until that happens I believe giving them both time on the pitch is the right solution. Theo gets more practice how to counter defenders who play deep & Giroud looks sharper played in short bursts. Now for the science: we've won 19 from 28 games in 2015 which equates to a 68% win ratio. Chelsea won the PL with exactly that same % last season. If we can sustain this run we'll be bang in the mix. The goals have started to flow, 11 from the last 3 games, but it'll cause visiting teams at the Emirates to be even more determined to park the bus. Finally a word of praise for Alexis, who travelled 17,500 miles last week, didn't return home until Thursday & still put in a shift. Some of the great race horses have been found to have a larger heart & lungs than the norm, I wonder if Alexis is the same? Updated PL best odds: Citeh 10/11, AFC 5/2, Man U 6/1, CFC 20/1, L'pool 66/1.

  92. Badarse

    Oct 18, 2015, 11:28 #77544

    Thank you Kevin. Didn't watch the game, did the ironing, had a bath, stood at my garden gate staring at the sky with eyes and mouth wide open, then changed my socks. Not funny? You bet. If you are an Arsenal fan don't you crawl across a minefield to catch a glimpse of a game? There perhaps is the crux I guess, some would and some wouldn't; it is the main divisiveness that governs many in the fan base, not the manager's tactics-that is just for others. Then again so is the size boots a player may wear. All extremely odd. The inconsistency is that those griping about lack of passion and so on in the team, display very little themselves. Yes quite bizarre. Per was exposed and have to agree with AKBest that, (hopefully), Gabriel will become-albeit slowly-the main pairing with Kos, who I thought was excellent. Sad to report that Theo's performance against MU was a flash in the pan. He was anonymous throughout, no ability to put a snap into that header, lacking positional sense and making runs which would ask questions of a defence. It also took away the option of a big target man. They had some big boys and played a boisterous game, never actually stepping over the line, but always buffeting and making life difficult. I think they were out on their feet-despite our game being somewhat 'ineffective'(?)-they were gone when that first goal went in. The passing was the key, and on occasions I was purring at the absolute artistry of the passages of play. Santi must have two of the fastest feet I have ever seen. Well done fellas, a good win. My pre season tips of runners up and a League Cup tickle are still alive; I added a negative as a throwaway that Timmy would go pretty soon too...watch this space.

  93. Ron

    Oct 18, 2015, 11:13 #77543

    Hi Nick - they ll get a creditable draw v BM i reckon. The title is on. Wdt write Red Mancs off tho or even Chelsea. Thats league is bad enough for any of the normal candidates to put a run together and take it. The best thing for them other than City is that City are actually harbouring genuine ideas of making a real mark in the CL. It cd take a bit away from them. If Arsenal are to win the title they need BM to see them off at this stage which is highly likely.

  94. Nick

    Oct 18, 2015, 11:03 #77542

    Hiccup, call yourself a gooner ? Watching first rugby then bloody ballroom dancing by amateurs? Firstly a better win than were being given credit for considering Watfords defensive mind set and record, much as the Leicester result has been derided as " only" Leicester, they showed again yesterday what a driven side they are , all in all a good away win in Hertfordshire, of course there were negatives, the BFGs lack of pace being one, Ramseys, penchant for turning with the ball and slowing play down another, his profligacy in front of goal one more, I also saw no evidence of the type of barnstorming start and high pressing game that the players said should be the norm after the stunning result against manure, in mitigation the pitch was dry which doesn't help with a zippy passing game and our players almost to a man had all been away on national teams duty, thankfully we won so tiredness did not have to used as ( in my opinion) a specious excuse. On Tuesday night we shall see if the team has truly progressed and actually LEARNED the ubiquitous" lesson" from past debacles', I personally am more concerned with us playing well against Bayern than with qualification from the group, our chances of winning the CL are remote indeed, I would be far more satisfied with a premier league title, said title is there for the taking this season, only manure blue stand in the way, they I am sure will have dropped more points to surprise results by the time we play them , if we are still breathing down their neck come the Christmas period our chances will be looking good, providing that in January we bring in at least one outfield player in the window, and before that keep Alexis fit

  95. Torbay gooner

    Oct 18, 2015, 11:01 #77541

    Good overall performance, as you say Kevin, Bellerin looked particularly impressive. The minus points being Mertesacker's haphazard defending and Walcott's continued lack of penetration against a side defending deep. Did not understand the media lovein with Walcott's performance after the manure game! The guy's got 2 premiership goals this season for gawdsakes!

  96. Wear Your Colours

    Oct 18, 2015, 10:45 #77540

    It was important to take the three points to keep our momentum in the League, especially after the win against United. We found Watford difficult to break down early on but after scoring the opening goal we did kill the game off very effectively. I thought Bellerin and Coquelin both handled the physical challenge from Watford very well. It was good to keep another clean sheet. For me our best central partnership is Mertesacker and Gabriel; the calmness, aerial dominance and ball playing skills of Mertesacker are well complimented by Gabriel's physical aggression and pace. They are the pair I would start with in most matches. It was also good to see Ramsey get off the mark for this season. Let's hope Cazorla can join him (and Ozil) on the scoresheet soon. COYG!

  97. Ron

    Oct 18, 2015, 10:18 #77539

    Hiccup - Funny as usual and so true mate. Only saw parts of SA v Wales but saw the whole of the Blacks v Fr.Simply awesome. Team sport with skill sets,physical peaks and demands at its ultimate level against which PL footie shades into insignificance. Some of the diving and feigned pain in what was an ordinary low level PL game at Watford was just disgraceful as you rightly say.

  98. goonercolesyboy

    Oct 18, 2015, 10:03 #77538

    I am not sure what makes people post a comment after a victory where every sentence has a negative tone to it. Can't be easy to satisfy some, maybe jeffjunior and Muguiresbridge are rubbing off on them. As I said in a previous thread, Watford just ran out of legs chasing the ball every which way and our class eventually told. Let's hope we can continue this run of form and stay consistent, keep the good habits and the confidence of winning football matches.

  99. Hiccup

    Oct 18, 2015, 9:54 #77537

    Missed the start of the game as the rugby seemed a better alternative with both Wales and South Africa going at it hell for leather. Turned over at about 30 minutes gone to see the Watford right back taking a throw in... with gloves on! FFS. What a come down. Two minutes later, a Watford player brushed his little finger against Alexis' hair, which to my surprise, was enough to bring him down to his knees? It left me wondering how he would cope at the hairdresser's with the full force of a comb going through his fringe? I guess it would knock him flying backwards from the chair? Five minutes later, controversy of an unprecedented level. Ramsey went down feigning injury ( I thought only Chelsea did that?). The ref failed to blow up, and the Watford players refused to put the ball out. The pantomime continued as the arsenal fans booed Watford, and called for Eva Carneiro to come on to the pitch to halt the Watford attack. I feared a Watford goal from this would have sparked another petition to blacklist referee Mike Jones from officiating further arsenal games. Thankfully they didn't. Maybe the FA should introduce a new directive that the ref should blow up if a player goes down and gets mud in his beard? Just a thought. Anyway, I persevered up to half time, anticipating an outbreak of testosterone on the pitch, but to no avail. At the break I opted to view Strictly Come Dancing, as there seemed more balls from Kirsty Gallacher doing the cha cha. Even Craig Revel Horwood looked masculine to what I'd seen! Anyway, looks like we manned up for the second half, and thank god we won't have to listen to the international fixture travelling being the reason for a poor result, which had already been pre prenned on here.

  100. Mathew

    Oct 18, 2015, 9:41 #77536

    Tough or tricky, name it at your convenience. For me, the international break was a gift otherwise we would've thought of a rollover against Watford. It gave us an opportunity to plan rather than just going gung-ho against a promoted team, which would've happened after the ManU win. Media speculations about Real Madrid looming over Alexis is a worry as he can be mentally disrupted. If ManU can pay 300,000 for Rooney, Alexis certainly deserves more than 130,000 although his contract is long term. Spot on Kev about Bellerin, soon Barca will come calling for him too. He has been our bright spot since last season and all the hard work will be soon in vain, unless we win the league this year. Good to see Stan in the stands, looking forward to some Bavarian bashing.

  101. Ron

    Oct 18, 2015, 9:18 #77535

    Decent win Kev. I saw it as one of those games where they set out to do just enough with Wengers CL holy grail in the back of their minds and enough proved to be enough. Watford just ran out of puff didnt they. The words 'Walcott' and 'Centre Forward' are rather like Chalk and Cheese. It really is now a long running comic sketch that nobody can laugh at how Wenger tries to keep the bearded wonder pacified. Hes truly clueless there and sombody really ought to put him out of his misery and tell him. Yesterday was ironically one of those games where his only real use could have been brought to bear i.e off the bench at the 70 minute mark to see off a tired, lower level opponent. Finally, as you say re Merter, it was a game that showed that Cech doesn't trust him either. It beggars belief as to what must Cech think at times behind those two stooges in front of him! Luckily it was only Watfords honest plodders out there.

  102. Website Editor

    Oct 18, 2015, 9:15 #77534

    Arseneknewbest - Thanks. Meant to type conspired. Not sure what happened there. Changed now.

  103. Arseneknewbest

    Oct 18, 2015, 9:05 #77533

    Thanks Kevin - I agree with most of that. I like the BFG, but he looked like a weak link yesterday. I suspect that the wenger-loyalty syndrome plus the fact that he's often captain means he will continue to feature in games like these for a while. WTF-ord offered no real threat but we continued to gift them score-able chances. I think we looked much fitter than them in the last quarter. Good that Giroud found the net but he looked a slow and rigid while he was on. The Bayern dual duel looks well beyond us, however. Just one point: "construed" - really?

  104. Paulo75

    Oct 18, 2015, 8:59 #77532

    Great result but took a while to finally get there. Not convinced by Ramsay out wide and Walcott almost anonymous when given little space in behind - as will often be the case.