#FlashbackFriday – Chelsea at Home

Part two of a look back at Chelsea’s visits to Arsenal down the years



#FlashbackFriday – Chelsea at Home

Ready or not? Thierry Henry’s cheeky free-kick in December 2004


(Flashbacks for Chelsea away can be found here and here. While yesterday’s edition on Chelsea at home can be found here).

Chelsea would come straight back up as second tier champions in 1988/89, beating runners up and fellow present day oligarch side Man City by seventeen points, as well as winning 3-2 at Maine Road. Chelsea also thumped Walsall 7-0 away, with five goals for Gordon Durie. On returning to the top flight, Chelsea visited Highbury in mid-March. Narrator Jim Rosenthal remarks that Chelsea were having a ‘really good season’ in sixth position. After inflicting a 0-1 defeat on Arsenal at Highbury (the Gunners first home defeat of the season), they would move just one point off of Arsenal in third place though Arsenal would have a game in hand. The Gunners however would finish the season in fourth place, two points ahead of Chelsea in fifth.

A revitalised Arsenal in 1990/91 however would meet Chelsea at Highbury again six months later and enact their revenge in the form of a 4-1 win with goals from a Lee Dixon penalty, Anders Limpar, Paul Merson and David Rocastle. As Arsenal stormed to the title in 1990/91, Chelsea would be the only side to beat the Gunners that season away at Stamford Bridge. On visiting Highbury the following season in early October 1991, the Blues raced into a two goal lead. Arsenal however clawed the game back with a Lee Dixon penalty, Ian Wright’s first goal at Highbury and a winner from Kevin Campbell, as the Gunners secured a 3-2 win.

Exactly twelve months on brought the first meeting between Arsenal and Chelsea during the Premiership era. Arsenal opened the scoring with an excellent chip from Paul Merson. Dennis Wise equalised for Chelsea, however Anders Limpar on as substitute set up a winner from Ian Wright to give Arsenal a 2-1 victory. Ian Wright would also be the difference the following season, as Arsenal picked up a 1-0 win over Chelsea at Highbury in April 1994. Six months later, Dennis Wise would give Chelsea a first half lead at Highbury. However the Gunners came back in the second half with two goals from Ian Wright and one from Kevin Campbell in a 3-1 victory.

The previous season, Glenn Hoddle’s Chelsea reached the FA Cup Final though lost 0-4 to Double winners Man United. By virtue of this, the Blues qualified for the European Cup Winners Cup and came within a goal of facing Arsenal in the 1994/95 Final, beating Real Zaragoza 3-1 at Stamford Bridge, however a 0-3 defeat away in the first leg meant that Chelsea would be eliminated 3-4 on aggregate. The Blues’ last visit to Highbury during the Glenn Hoddle era came a week before Christmas 1995. John Spencer gave Chelsea the lead, however an excellent twenty yard drive from Lee Dixon meant honours even as the two sides played out a 1-1 draw.

Hoddle became England manager in the summer of 1996, with the biggest star signing of the Hoddle era - Ruud Gullit – taking over the reins as Chelsea manager. Chelsea allowed Gullit to invest in star names such as Gianluca Vialli and Mark Hughes, as well as upcoming talent in Franck Leboeuf and Roberto Di Matteo. In early September 1996, an Arsenal side awaiting the arrival of Arsene Wenger played host to Chelsea. The Blues took a two goal lead through a Franck Leboeuf penalty and a goal from Gianluca Vialli from a John Lukic mistake. Arsenal pulled the game back through goals from Paul Merson and Martin Keown and substitute Ian Wright giving Arsenal the lead. Dennis Wise however equalised late on, with the game finishing in a 3-3 draw.

Chelsea had been trophy-less for twenty seven years by 1996/97, however started an excellent FA Cup run by defeating Liverpool at home 4-2 in January and securing the FA Cup with a 2-0 win over Middlesbrough in May with Roberto Di Matteo scoring the opening goal after thirteen seconds. The following season Chelsea were heading to Wembley again in the lesser domestic tournament, but would face Arsenal in the League Cup Semi Final in January 1998. Arsenal triumphed in the first leg 2-1 with goals from Marc Overmars and Stephen Hughes. A lot happened however between the first and second legs, firstly Arsenal met Chelsea again at Highbury in the league, winning again 2-0 with both goals scored by Stephen Hughes (taking his tally to three goals in two games against the Blues).

Five days later, Chelsea parted company with boss Ruud Gullitt, despite him winning their first trophy in over a quarter of a century just a few months prior. The Blues appointed Gianluca Vialli in his place and overturned the deficit in the second leg to eliminate the Gunners, as well as beating Middlesbrough 2-0 in the League Cup Final and winning the penultimate European Cup Winners Cup Final in May (beating VFB Stuttgart 1-0 with a Gianfranco Zola goal) and like Arsenal achieving a double of sorts in 1997/98. Arsenal and Chelsea met again in the fourth round of the League Cup the following season, which would show Arsene Wenger’s future intentions with regard to the tournament. Wenger fielded a second string eleven (although both Bergkamp and a young Freddie Ljungberg were in the starting line-up). Chelsea however would hammer Arsenal 0-5 at Highbury.

In the Premiership though, Chelsea were unable to secure a win over Arsenal during this period, either home or away. At the end of January 1999, a Dennis Bergkamp goal gave Arsenal all three points with a 1-0 win at Highbury. The following season, the first post-millennium visit of Chelsea to Highbury ended in a 2-1 win for the Gunners with two goals for Thierry Henry. In 2000/01, Chelsea visited Highbury in January with Robert Pires giving Arsenal the lead after just three minutes. John Terry however equalised for Chelsea just past the hour to earn the Blues a 1-1 draw.

The two sides met again around a month later in the fifth round of the FA Cup, taking the lead through a Thierry Henry penalty. Chelsea equalised with a great twenty yard strike from Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink. Arsenal however secured their passage to the Quarter Finals (and beyond) with two goals from Sylvain Wiltord which gave the Gunners a 3-1 win. The following season, Chelsea’s visit to Highbury came on Boxing Day of 2001 and brought the return of Emmanuel Petit to Highbury, lining up for Chelsea after a failed season at Barcelona. The Blues took the lead with a goal from Frank Lampard, however Arsenal took all three points with goals from Sol Campbell and Sylvain Wiltord in a 2-1 win for the Gunners.

Arsenal won the Double in 2001/02, the first leg of which was secured by defeating Chelsea in the FA Cup Final at the Millennium Stadium in Cardiff. In defending their League title in 2002/03, Arsenal would meet Chelsea on New Years’ Day at Highbury in which Arsenal took the lead through a Marcel Desailly own goal. It would be the last ten minutes however that would bring a goal rush with Arsenal going three goals up through a goal by Giovanni Van Bronckhorst in the eighty first minute and Thierry Henry a minute later. In the last five minutes however Chelsea would pull two goals back through Mario Stanic on eighty five minutes and Emmanuel Petit capitalising on a Stuart Taylor mistake on eighty seven minutes. The result however ended 3-2 to the Gunners.

For the third season running Chelsea would meet Arsenal in the FA Cup, this time – as in 2000/01 - at Highbury and in the Quarter Finals. John Terry would give Chelsea the lead on three minutes, however Arsenal would equalise through a Francis Jeffers goal and take the lead through Thierry Henry. Chelsea however would force a replay with an equaliser from Frank Lampard six minutes from time, with the game ending in a 2-2 draw. Arsenal would however win the replay at Stamford Bridge, knocking Chelsea of the FA Cup for the third year running. This Cup tie however would be the final time that Arsenal would meet Chelsea in the Pre-Abramovich era.

The Russian oligarch bought Chelsea from Ken Bates in the summer of 2003. As bad as it was that Chelsea acquired Roman’s Roubles, it could have been far worse had Sven Goran Eriksson not advised him to buy Chelsea instead of Tottenham. How Abramovich acquired so much money so quickly is explained here in a BBC documentary called ‘How Roman Abramovich Made His Billions’. Over the summer close season of 2003, Chelsea spent £111 million on new signings, such as Wayne Bridge, Damien Duff, Joe Cole, Juan Sebastian Veron, Adrian Mutu, Hernan Crespo and Claude Makelele.

Arsenal met Post-Abramovich Chelsea in mid-October, with both sides unbeaten and joint top of the table. Arsenal took the lead with a goal from a free kick by Edu after five minutes. Hernan Crespo however equalised with a great twenty yard strike three minutes later. Arsenal however took all three points courtesy of an error by Chelsea goalkeeper Carlo Cudicini which fell to Thierry Henry who put the ball into the net to give the Gunners a 2-1 victory. Arsenal would of course remain unbeaten and secure the League title in 2003/04. For the fourth season in a row, Arsenal and Chelsea would meet in the FA Cup – this time in the fifth round - and for the third season out of four the tie would be at Highbury.

Chelsea took the lead just prior to half time with a strike from Adrian Mutu, however two strikes from Arsenal’s new signing Jose Antonio Reyes – the first an absolute belter – secured a 2-1 win for Arsenal and their passage to the Quarter Final. The two sides would meet again in the European Champions League Quarter Final second leg later on that season, with the first game a 1-1 draw at Stamford Bridge. Reyes would be on target again to give Arsenal the lead, though Frank Lampard would equalise. Wayne Bridge however would secure Arsenal’s elimination from the Champions League and inflict a 1-2 defeat on the Gunners – the first time in which Chelsea would beat Arsenal at Highbury outside of the League Cup since 1990.

Chelsea would however lose in the Semi Final to Monaco, but would finish as runners up in the Premiership. Over the summer of 2004, Chelsea would sack manager Claudio Raneri and replace him with the manager of that year’s European Cup winners, FC Porto – Jose Mourinho – who on arrival proclaimed himself as ‘the Special one’ (although if you were called that at my school, it was never something to boast about, Jose!). Mourinho’s first of only two visits to Highbury came in December 2004. Thierry Henry opened the scoring with an excellent strike after just two minutes. John Terry equalised with a header from a corner on seventeen minutes. Henry would put Arsenal back in the lead again with a quickly taken free kick on the half hour, though Chelsea would equalise just after half time with a goal from Eidur Gudjohnsen with the game finishing in a 2-2 draw.

Though unable to equal the feat of Arsenal’s invincibles of a year earlier, Chelsea in 2004/05 would lose only one game all season and secure the title with a 2-0 win away at Bolton’s Reebok Stadium. The following December, Chelsea would triumph in their final visit to Highbury. The Blues inflicted a 0-2 defeat on Arsenal with goals from Arjen Robben and Joe Cole as the Blues marched toward back to back League titles in 2005/06. The following season Arsenal and Chelsea played out the last major final played away from Wembley at Cardiff in Late February 2007. Though Theo Walcott’s first goal for Arsenal gave the Gunners the lead, two Didier Drogba goals gave Chelsea the League Cup by inflicting a 1-2 defeat on Arsenal.

Chelsea’s first visit to our new ground also coincided with Jose Mourinho’s away game at Arsenal during his first term in charge at Stamford Bridge. The Blues required a win to keep their League title hopes alive, but fell behind just before half time to a penalty by Gilberto Silva, which he cooly spotted past future Arsenal goalkeeper Petr Cech. Chelsea avoided defeat with an equaliser by Michael Essien on seventy minutes, however 1-1 draw handed the title back to Old Trafford for the first time in four years. Jose Mourinho left Chelsea in September 2007, with the then unknown Israeli Avram Grant taking over for the rest of the 2007/08 season.

The first Post-Mourinho meeting between Arsenal and Chelsea took place a week before Christmas. Arsenal were top of the table and three points above Chelsea in third place, however lost their first League game of the season a week earlier away at Middlesbrough. This would also be Ashley Cole’s first visit to Arsenal since his controversial move across London in 2006. It would however be the player going the other direction that would make the difference with a William Gallas header at the end of the first half, giving Arsenal all three points with a 1-0 win. Arsenal however would finish the season two points behind runners up Chelsea in third place. Chelsea would also reach the only ever all English Champions League final, though lose to Man United on penalties.

In 2008/09, Chelsea would win their first ever game at Ashburton Grove in May by inflicting a 1-4 defeat on Arsenal with goals for Alex, former Gunner Nicolas Anelka, Florent Malouda and an own goal from Kolo Toure. Six months later, Chelsea would again triumph away at Arsenal by three clear goals. Two goals for Didier Drogba and a Thomas Vermaelen own goal inflicted a 0-3 defeat on the Gunners. Chelsea would win back the Premiership title in 2009/10 and become only the seventh separate English club to complete the League and FA Cup double by beating Portsmouth in the 2010 FA Cup Final. Arsenal however would get their revenge two days after Christmas 2010 with a 3-1 win with goals from Alex Song, Cesc Fabregas and Theo Walcott for the Gunners and Branislav Ivanovic pulling one back for Chelsea.


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  1. Mathew

    Jan 24, 2016, 16:33 #82281

    Mayday...mayday

  2. Westlower

    Jan 23, 2016, 14:04 #82250

    Hallelujah - Lee Mason awarded Norwich a penalty at the earliest opportunity in the 2nd half.

  3. mbg

    Jan 23, 2016, 13:58 #82249

    SKG, post of the day, and an old fraud of a manager the richest of them all.

  4. Westlower

    Jan 23, 2016, 13:52 #82248

    If you turn up the volume on your TV you should be able to hear Lee Mason singing 'you'll never walk alone' as he runs alongside his scouser hero's. Denied Norwich a stonewall penalty with a smile on his face.

  5. Seven Kings Gooner

    Jan 23, 2016, 13:47 #82247

    Cyril : I am slowly realizing that my dissatisfaction with Arsenal is not AW (although I find him so frustrating) it is leaving Highbury, I am an "ole geezer" so I reminisce too much but if I could repeat some days of my life it would be standing as 12 year old with my father in the West Lower. It was such a beautiful ground and when the floodlights were on, pure theatre. Talking of which, you never hear of famous West End theatres moving to maximize profits!

  6. mbg

    Jan 23, 2016, 13:41 #82246

    Cyril, good post, it's all any of us wanted/want, and what we've been saying for years and years (and what we were promised (spun) remember) but all these years we've been held back.

  7. Cyril

    Jan 23, 2016, 13:21 #82245

    SKG: spot on mate! I used to work at Ashburton grove for Islington council and they moved us to build the stadium. Heartbreaking. My building was roughly where the singing section is now. I used to work on the top floor and gaze over at Highbury into the east stand amongst the terraced housing. Nothing in the world could be more English than that. It's a real opening credits of 'Corrie' moment. All I have is the memory of that. My job was moved, my stadium was moved and it hasn't been the same ever since.

  8. Seven Kings Gooner

    Jan 23, 2016, 12:27 #82241

    Ron : I think the move from Highbury will, in years to come, be viewed as a bad thing for Arsenal Football club but a great thing for Arsenal PLC. As far I was concerned Highbury was better than any ground in the world and better than any ground yet to be built. If Chelsea and the Spuds built new stadia with a 100,000 capacity each it would never be Highbury, I miss the place more with each passing year and guys look at those old photos and tell me which other club would have given up such a tradition, such beautiful stands and history to move into a baseball ground where the bloody roof leaks! Being at Highbury not only made us elite, it made us different to every other club on the planet. We could have redesigned Highbury and kept everything we loved about the place prominent and purposeful and used the Em*rates site for the training facilities. All we have done is made a few people very rich at the expense of a 100 years + of history.

  9. Badarse

    Jan 23, 2016, 11:53 #82238

    Such an obvious fact is westlower's attendance/support of the Arsenal; without knowing details I could have vouched for it, yet so easily missed by some-I question their patRonage, though.

  10. Westlower

    Jan 23, 2016, 11:44 #82237

    @Ron I hate to shatter your illusion of me but truth be told I watched more matches at Highbury than you ever did! From 1961 until it closed. I was a season ticket holder during the GG era until the move away from Highbury which coincided with my retirement. I went to far fewer away matches than your good self but still went to many games at OT, Anfield, Goodison, Forest, Coventry, Villa, Ipswich, Norwich, Fulham, TH, Palace, Wimbledon, CFC, WHam. Yourself?

  11. Westlower

    Jan 23, 2016, 11:33 #82235

    @Cyril , You are correct in saying that Arsenal had won more titles than any other club until Liverpool equalled our 7 wins in 65/66, Man U in 66/67 & Everton in 69/70. We regained the lead again in 70/71 with 8 titles won but Liverpool then went on to leave us behind winning their 8th & 9th titles in 72/73 & 75/76 eventually winning 18 titles but have been unable to win the PL.

  12. Ron

    Jan 23, 2016, 11:23 #82234

    Hi Fonz - i used to love your TV prog. Gaz and Cyril - you make great points there. Its often been said that had it have been the case of us having had a few less than stellar league seasons and a few mid table finishes interspersed with a title or two and maybe a CL that Wengers reign in this last decade would have been looked upon more favorably and the fans enjoyment would have been much greater. As it is the top 4 goal met each season plus the Clubs happy acceptance of its own glass ceiling has for many of us become tedious. My own point earlier about a few close shaves with the lower end of the table from time to time, perhaps generating some passion here and there was aimed at the same view as yours really. Note though, we have Goonercolseys erudite intervention distorting the point. Its the cash that counts though at Arsenal, the playing field events are a distant second.

  13. Cyril

    Jan 23, 2016, 11:18 #82233

    WL: I stand corrected. However, I was not intending to include 74 due to the finishing position. By the same token, I didn't go back 3 years earlier when we won the double. My point was really that we can choose dates and periods to satisfy our agenda and viewpoint. Ofcourse Wenger is the main contributor to my stat analysis, however flawed it was. And I am truly grateful to that man for all he has done for the club. Could you confirm that we until the late sixties or so, held the record for title wins. A great club we have always been and the period of Wengerism adds to our history just like a great leader in politics. Love her or hate her, the Thatcherism period was a popular/divided/unpopular time for people. Nixon, another leader who divided the masses. Do I think we should move on now? Heavy heart says yes. My analysis and comments are sadly 60/40 for a new era now. And when it does happen, I dearly hope we get a frost/Nixon interview for Wenger to pay him the utmost respect that we can.

  14. Ron

    Jan 23, 2016, 11:05 #82232

    ...and there are very few others on here who are in yr bracket goonercsey when it comes to spouting junk and rubbish as many before tell you. Westlower - For once take yr blinkers off. Yr point is redundant once more. The likes of Liverpool were once an elite club. To be eliote the whole package has to be there ie resources, players, stadium and domestic plus european wide pedigree. Try yr best and see which facets arent there at Arsenal. Take yr time and you ll manage it im sure. You are at times just like we all were once as 10 yr olds schoolboy arguing that that 'my teams better than yrs'. Ive tended to the view many, many times reading yr posts that youve long been a student of the Club, probably since you were a kid but actually didnt find match going and actually supporting the Club until later in life, probably not until this stadium was built. Its quite typical of many fans from the provinces. Im not being too unkind i hope, but its explains the ultra defensive stance on every little point the more hard bitten Gunners fans make that doesn't quite sit in with yr rosy view of AW and the Club. AFC arent elite though and never have been. They are a great domestic football institution though but one thats struggling still to make the transition from its Old Etonian basis to sporting modernity. Only you could claim elite status for the Club with no Euro CL s to its name. Youre wrong and you know it really dont you. Our Euro record is poor. Theres no other sensible way of arguing to the contrary.

  15. Cyril

    Jan 23, 2016, 10:50 #82230

    Gaz, I'm hearing you on that one. I want to throw this one out there- if there wasn't the comfort of the top 4 positions in Europe, would we have been more successful in the past twenty years in the league?. My answer is Yes. But ofcourse, we do just enough don't we. I think we would have been in for more excitement, drama and achievement if this comfort zone was taken away. Dare I as a fan expect more?Why the hell not I say...

  16. Westlower

    Jan 23, 2016, 10:48 #82229

    @Cyril, Without doubt Arsenal were the greatest team around in the 30's. Sadly the 2nd World War disrupted our period of dominance. Post WW2 we managed to win two further titles but after 52/52 that was it until 70/71. Your assertion that AFC only finished outside the top 7 on three occasions after 1974 (when we finished 10th) is incorrect as it happened on six occasions. 1974/75 16th; 75/76 17th; 76/77 8th; 82/83 10th; 92/93 10th; 94/95 12th + finishing 7th three times. From 1930/31 to 38/39 Arsenal's average finishing position was 2.3. From 96/97 to 2003/04 Arsenal's finishing position averaged 1.8. Numerically the later period was the best in Arsenal's history, which included two doubles + an unbeaten league campaign. @Gaz, Wenger was the architect of our period of luxury by always being in the top 4. Arsenal reaped the financial reward for league consistency.

  17. Lord Froth

    Jan 23, 2016, 10:26 #82228

    Wearebuildingateamtodominate - post 87097. Bore off mate.

  18. The Fonz

    Jan 23, 2016, 10:13 #82227

    This guy Ron is a character isn't he? Just been reading a few of the last articles on here after taking an extended hiatus and it's interesting to read many of the comments but I particularly enjoy Ron the most. Not sure if you have coached or played at a high level but I assume you have based on the content of many of your comments? You speak with such absolutes whilst at the same time displaying a sharp disdain for anyone with a differing opinon so I can only assume you are either more of an expert than everyone else or you are the most arrogant & concieted contribtor to this board? (Although I'm you strike me as an avid DM reader) You seem an articulate chap yet you clearly relish slapping down many others who hold a different opinion? You could almost be Myles Palmer in disguise but I think that's almost to insulting a comparison for anyone. I look forward to reading more of your retorts, I'm sure you have had to replace your keyboard more than once with the heavy pounding it must take. Keep up the good work old boy!

  19. Gaz

    Jan 23, 2016, 9:08 #82222

    Great post Cyril. It should never be forgotten too that Wenger's the only manager in our history who's had the luxury of a top four finish gaining entry into the cash cow that is the ECL. And whilst it's always seen as a 'great' thing that we achieve par by being in it every season I'd rather have been in it half as many times and won the darn thing!...

  20. Cyril

    Jan 23, 2016, 8:54 #82221

    Until the late 60's Arsenal had won the league more than any other club in all four divisions. This club has and and always will be a giant. As I have stated before, since 74, Arsenal had only finished outside the top 7 on three occasions and had won a cup double on one of those occasions. The club generate more money than any other sporting entity on match day. I can vouch for that as I am one of those people with a Season Ticket. Many of our frustrations are that we don't drive forward where it matters on the pitch. It' s one of the great business success stories in this country in the past 50 years. We do our bit. Arsenal, go and do yours. Go and catch Man Utd and Liverpool in title wins. It's that level I expect, you know!

  21. mbg

    Jan 22, 2016, 23:21 #82220

    jw, 87117, but just wait and see all the complaints and conspiracy stories that will surface then.

  22. mbg

    Jan 22, 2016, 23:10 #82219

    jw, indeed, we haven't heard many complaints from the wengerites of conspiracies against they're lord and master and Arsenal when it comes to the FA Cup. I can see a petition coming from the AKB's to get the same people to make the CL draws.

  23. Alsace

    Jan 22, 2016, 20:48 #82218

    Can I explain, ahead of Sunday, to some of our more antagonistic brethren, that hurling abuse at Cesc Fabregas will NOT be a good idea on Sunday. Notwithstanding that such abuse is unfair and unconscionable, it will make him TRY HARDER. Leave the coffee merchant alone as well. He is on the Flanimals " list of enemies" and will be dealt with on the pitch. The song about John Terry's relations is not worthy of us. We should suggest instead that.... But I digress. My point is, we need the points, so no counterproductive venting of the amoeba's inner impulses. In other news Ashley Young is apparently poorly. I wonder if he was involved I a diving accident?

  24. jeff wright

    Jan 22, 2016, 20:12 #82216

    Westie however you dress it up a lack of a European Cup win is a glaring omission on our CV and on Wenger's as well. Wenger will be 70 in 2019 if this story is true it only demonstrates the complete lack of ambition at the club under the current regime .Stan should be making Pep an offer that he can't refuse -instead of hanging on to the accountant that we currently have and who is taking us nowhere that we have not already been before.I predict even more complacency awaits us from our players living in Wenger's comfort zone .

  25. goonercolesyboy

    Jan 22, 2016, 19:14 #82215

    87105 Bard. Looks as if there is talk of the manager extending his contract again until 2019. Yagunnersya.

  26. Westlower

    Jan 22, 2016, 18:45 #82214

    @Ron You put too much credibility on being a CL winner to be classed elite. Does that mean Liverpool x4 & Forest x2 are elite clubs and above AFC in the pecking order? Not to mention other EC winners, Benfica x2, Marseille, Hamburg, Steala Bucuresti, Porto, Celtic, Feyenoord, PSV Eindhoven, Red Star Belgrade, etc. Are all these clubs ahead of AFC in the elite league table? If so, AFC really are a small town team from N. London.

  27. jeff wright

    Jan 22, 2016, 18:16 #82213

    The league game at the weekend before the home leg v Barca is United away and Everton away before the second leg to Barca away... as Bowie sang with Queen,Under Pressure ....Pressure pushing down on me.... Just as well that Arsene handles pressure well !

  28. Bard

    Jan 22, 2016, 18:15 #82212

    Agreed Westie but when are we going to try and win something rather than being a perennial also ran ? Colseyboysetc even by your standards that an obscure post. I have some news for that might tickle the fancy of all those who want to know what a proper gooner constitutes. I have just come back from the tattoo shop. Helen insisted I have 'Arsene knows best' tattooed on my todger. Her argument was that it would make her feel as though the 'great one' was 'hers' if you get my drift. The tattoo artist barely blinked but asked if there was anything else I wanted to add as there was a lot of room left. I share this intimacy mainly because you aint a proper gooner unless you give your body and soul to the Great One. There is of course a silver lining to this story. Helen like most AKBs isnt the sharpest knife in the draw so I asked the artist to change it to Arsene knew best. Will she notice ? I doubt it. 0-0 Sunday is my prediction, although for Amos I would add I hope we win.

  29. jeff wright

    Jan 22, 2016, 18:01 #82211

    Just as nonsensical as the claims that we have challenged for the title in some seasons since last winning it in 2004.When in reality we have never even managed to finish second. As I have said before I will wait until April the first before deciding whether or not we are in one. As it happens Wenger himself agrees with this when he said in November that he would see where we were with 7 games left to play.I can see the tie with Barcelona impacting on our league results with Arsene certain to make this affair his priority over the league games that we play at that time.It's all very familiar and Arsene got lucky in the FAC with yet another home tie ,how many is that now over the past two seasons,I can only recall United away and the two semi's were against modest Championship sides and Hull and Villa in the finals ! You couldn't make it up.If only the European Cup was as easy! 6 FA Cups in 20 years for Arsene - no European ones in 20 years though for him says it all. Elite >? I don't think so.

  30. Westlower

    Jan 22, 2016, 17:51 #82210

    @Exeter, Without being in the 'financial elite' how will our football ambitions be achieved? If we had stayed at Highbury, in time we would have become Everton or Aston Villa. Even West Ham & TH have realised it's a case of move & grow or die. Evolution has dictated that we would have become a relatively small club had we remained at a ground with a limited capacity. AFC now employ 550 staff and have an annual wage bill of £200m. It's a massive world wide business and has evolved from being a local shop in N5. It will continue to grow as the game goes global & make no mistake AFC are in the vanguard of this ever changing world. Only the biggest clubs will attract the richest sponsors and whether you find it unpalatable or not, that's how it is! AFC are in safe hands.

  31. goonercolesyboy

    Jan 22, 2016, 17:40 #82209

    " I wish we had been involved in more relegation fights. It would have been more interesting". That just about sums up the nonsense written on here. Yagunnersya.

  32. Ron

    Jan 22, 2016, 17:09 #82208

    We arent 'an elite Club' Westie. We re a long way from it. We re an elite Club within the parameters of the EPL. Not beyond that. Real Madrid and Barc and Manch Utd are elite Clubs. Arsenal are a top EPL Club. No CL titles. A Club cant and wont be classed as elite without them and i mean the plural. 2 CL are the basic requirement in my view to knock on the door of elitism. You ll never see it under Wenger and this regime. Have a great week end guys.

  33. Exeter Gunner

    Jan 22, 2016, 16:45 #82207

    Westlower, AFC are in the financial elite for sure, but the footballing elite is teams that win leagues and European cups. The other day you were saying the game's about glory, now you seem to be back to espousing consistent top 4 finishes above all once again. Do you really not see the point about character and substance? Do you think the Emirates has the character of Highbury? Do you think it's a good thing that so many of the original core support have been priced out of the ground, and indeed the area? As someone who rarely attends themselves these days, why is it you think modern football and this incarnation of AFC within it are so wonderful?

  34. mbg

    Jan 22, 2016, 16:23 #82205

    CGO, It would have been very interesting to see what would have happened with/to OGL if it had been Arsenal he Chelski rocked up at, where he (and his followers)wouldn't have had the excuse of no Money, and an owner with real ambition who demanded success and didn't and still doesn't suffer failure/failures. We'd really have found out all about wenger and if he's as good as the wengerites think he is the messiah of managers and not just an old fraud.

  35. Westlower

    Jan 22, 2016, 16:16 #82204

    @Ron To the tune of We Can Work It Out - Beatles: Think of what you're saying. You can get it wrong and still you think that it's all right. Think of what I'm saying, we can work it out and get it straight or say goodnight. Life is very short and there's no time for fussing and fighting , my friend. I have always thought that it's a crime, so I will ask you once again. Try to see it my way. Only time will tell if I am right or I am wrong. We can work it out....It's a different game today where the technical foreign player dictates. Back in time, we watched an attritional type of game played by Brits, so it's impossible to compare like for like. The past 20 years have seen Arsenal eliminate the peaks & troughs in their fortune. We are now firmly established as one of the elite clubs. This is the first time it's happened over such a protracted period in my lifetime. I've never known an Arsenal team going for the title have so many in house knockers. How are these people going to cope should we slide back down the table?

  36. Bard

    Jan 22, 2016, 16:01 #82203

    Hard to feel anything much for the recent Chelsea. Functional , tough and not easy on the eye. So much of their success was down to Drogba. He was their TH. A wonderful centre forward. I dont know how many goals he scored against us but I remember too many games when he bullied us. Not sure he gets the credit he deserves. If he had played for us trophies would have come for sure.

  37. mbg

    Jan 22, 2016, 15:52 #82202

    Another good read Robert, WABATTD, good post and quite right, lets hope some players/player does (if they're capable)what Rooney supposedly did against Liverpool on Sunday and took charge of the dressing room at half time.

  38. Ron

    Jan 22, 2016, 15:35 #82201

    Poor teams yes Westie. Of course. Many of them too as you say and many losses indeed. Many if not most have similar records, but it doesn't make a team/Club flaky. Moreover, AFC have won more games in their history than all bar Utd and Liverpool. The Wenger yrs, particularly the last 10 have seen us become brittle indeed. We ve lost many key matches due to that brittleness which my contention is a unique brittleness than many, many experts on the game have commented upon. Most of those yrs you speak of, poor results followed the fact of AFC being a poor to average team, not through lack of fight, nerve or confidence. Even in the faec of that, its an arguable point as to whether the modern Arsenal is 'as good'. It depens on yr perspective. Mine is that Arsenal Football Club under this regime lacks character and substance. I think you know it too, but are loathe to look it in the face and admit it. There have been a few seasons in the last decade where a relegation fight involvement would have been a welcome break and in itself would have created more animation and excitement for the fans. Frankly, a lot of this stuff that you say is so good, has been just the opposite. Im not nostalgic at all, over football but i like to think im realistic. Stats like those you've produced miss the point entirely in my view. A deliberate deflection from the point in fact.

  39. Westlower

    Jan 22, 2016, 14:38 #82200

    @Ron You've fallen into the nostalgia trap, remembering the gold nuggets among the dross. From 1953/54 to, and including 1970/71, Arsenal lost 244 league matches in 18 seasons, that's an average of 13.5 loses per season or 32% in a 42 game season. From 1971/72, to and including 1988/89, Arsenal lost 213 league games, that's an average of 11.8 loses per season or 28% as 87/88 was 40 games & 88/89 38 games. From 1996/97 to 2014/15, Arsenal lost 125 matches, that's an average of 6.6 loses per season or 17%. Arsenal in the 50's/60's, later part of 70's & early 80's Arsenal were particularly flaky. Don't underestimate the consistency AW has introduced into AFC. We've lived through the crap times when we were mediocre through large chunks of time and I despair of Gooners who knock the current regime. Yes by all means revere the good times but it wasn't always as good as today, far from it.

  40. Torbay gooner

    Jan 22, 2016, 12:43 #82199

    Thanks Robert, some fantastic memories as always. Pity about Stephen Hughes, showed some great potential that was never fulfilled. Eight hours without a goal against Chelski, what an awful record. Expect us to put that right and sneak a 2-1 win.

  41. Ron

    Jan 22, 2016, 12:41 #82198

    Westie - i cant speak of 1952 or whatever but back in those other yrs the mentality of the Club, the temperament of the players and Coaches was far different, however narrow the margins of those title wins. You love to liken the past team/Club to the present, but in doing so, you sound like yr doing it to bolster yr own fragile faith in todays Arsenal plus you like to bracket the present regime and Wenger as being of the same ilk as those of yesteryear. Youre badly kidding yself. There was no flaky traits within the Club till Wenger rocked up. Hold the nerve? ffs. When did Wenger last do that?

  42. Charlie George Orwell

    Jan 22, 2016, 12:36 #82197

    Great effort again Robert - really look forward to these pieces. As for Abramovich: I'm told that Chelsea was about the fourth or fifth club he looked at before the owners were ready to sell (Man Utd and Liverpool being the first and second choice)? Apparently the deciding factor was the London property portfolio that went with Stamford Bridge. Does anyone know if this is true?

  43. Westlower

    Jan 22, 2016, 11:40 #82195

    @WEAREBUILDING, It's not terminal if we fail to win on Sunday. Of our remaining 16 fixtures, we need to win a minimum of 11, draw 3 and lose 2 or win 12 and lose 4, to achieve 80 points, which maybe enough to be champions. Of course, to soothe anxiety it'll be great to win on Sunday but ultimately it doesn't matter where the points come from, as long as we get them. For sure, if we don't win on Sunday some sections of the media will overreact by predicting armageddon. It really is a time for Gooners to hold their nerve, as we did in 52/53 & 88/89 when we won the old 1st Division on goal difference & by one point in 70/71. In all 3 seasons it went down to the last game. It's known as squeaky bum time!!! How ridiculous that you can't credit Wenger if we win but can only ridicule him.

  44. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    Jan 22, 2016, 10:47 #82193

    We need to win Sunday; we MUST win Sunday if any realistic title hopes are to be carried forward. But if we do win, it'll be despite of, not because of OGL.

  45. Arseneknewbest

    Jan 22, 2016, 10:07 #82192

    Thanks Robert - No cock brothers today I see, but how's about John Terry, Dennis Wise and Diego Costa as three complete prix? Oh, and the game - much as I'd like a victory I cannot see it happening. 0-0 all day.

  46. Radfordkennedy

    Jan 22, 2016, 9:56 #82191

    Morning all I got a feeling we will beat Chelsea this time if for no other reason than the law of averages,but I do hope that AW has the sense to play Gabriel,Costa hates him and with any luck it just might take his focus away from scoring his usual goal against us.On a previous thread our title credentials were discussed and I happen to agree with a few posters that if City find a gear it's going to be difficult for us to overcome that,I only base that opinion on having seen us in periods of our history were we successful we always looked like we had plenty under the bonnet if needs be,but I have to say whilst we are by and large getting good results and are in the mix,I do feel that this team are running flat out at the very ceiling of their capability and I'm unsure how long we keep going like that.Giroud looks like he's lost a little edge recently and the Ox looks like a kid on a trial but hopefully the footballing Gods will smile on us on Sunday.