Euro Exit Confirmed

Online Ed: Arsenal suffer anticipated defeat in Barcelona



Euro Exit Confirmed


So Arsenal’s season continues to collapse in instalments. A Premier League title looking, on current form, a mountain too high to climb, the FA Cup no longer a salvation for a disappointing campaign on other fronts, and last night, confirmation of another exit at the last 16 stage of the Champions League.

In fairness, there was no disgrace in Arsenal’s performance at the Camp Nou last night. They created as many chances as their hosts, and on another day, the result might have been 3-1 in their favour, which would have seen them go through instead of the Catalan side. However, 2-0 up from the first leg, there is an argument that Luis Enrique’s side played with a bit less intensity than they might have, were it needed.

Certainly Barcelona’s defence did not look particularly strong. There were some interesting selections in Alex Iwobi and Mathieu Flamini ahead of Joel Campbell and Francis Coquelin, and certainly the former performed well. Ultimately though, this was a case of Arsenal being unable to convert their chances, a familiar tale of late. The simple fact of the matter is that Barcelona’s forward line of Messi, Suarez and Neymar were more clinical than Arsenal’s would be scorers, and that can’t really be a surprise to anyone. Arsenal’s decision not to test Liverpool’s resolve with a more substantial bid than £40,000,001 back in the summer of 2013 is one that has haunted the club more than once in the times since, both with a lack of finishing touch in key matches, and last night, in direct opposition to the Uruguayan. The club’s bank balance certainly benefitted, but that was of little consolation to the rain soaked travelling fans last night.

It was a very open game, certainly entertaining to the neutral. Just under 40 attempts on goal between the two sides and some excellent goalkeeping when the two sides did get their finishing sorted. However, Arsenal were ultimately punished harder for their defensive errors, and in a sense this was nothing like a textbook European away performance. Naturally, the Gunners had to go for it, had to take chances. They gambled and paid the price, but there was nothing to lose.

In the bigger picture, this was not significant. The elimination was expected as soon as the draw was made back in December. There was a thought then that this could actually help Arsenal’s season by allowing them to focus on domestic concerns, at a time when they looked very much like title contenders. The form since the Boxing Day defeat at Southampton though has been very, very patchy. And there is a justified belief that defeat on Saturday at Goodison Park will mean that all the side have left to focus on is to ensure their habitual top four finish.

For a club of Arsenal’s resources, status and history, the level of achievement since the stadium move is well below what might have reasonably been expected, especially in a season where the sides that have carved up the title between them since the Gunners’ last have fallen away so spectacularly. I am not really certain what the manager can take away from this tie. Does he himself still believe he can win the Champions League? His failure to do so, with some of the excellent teams he has built in the past, must make the prospect of his doing so with the current options he has a real pipe dream.

If Arsenal are to compete with Europe’s top teams on the pitch as well as in the Deloitte’s Money League, change is needed. However, the fact that they are doing just nicely when it comes to book value probably means it won’t. Majority owner Stan Kroenke: “For me, being an individual owner, I have to have some sort of reality involved. If you want to win championships then you would never get involved.” See you all back here for a piece on the next inevitable Euro exit, same time next year…

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  1. mbg

    Mar 18, 2016, 13:23 #86600

    We aren't in bad shape (no doubt typed with a straight face)is it any wonder there's no hope for us. You couldn't make it up.

  2. jeff wright

    Mar 18, 2016, 9:48 #86577

    JWE ,what are smoking,it's obviously not Lambert & Butler. But you can always reappear if proven wrong calling yourself Mystic Wally. I agree with you Jimmy about the spuds any side that gets beat 5-1 on agg in Europe must be sh*te.

  3. JWE

    Mar 18, 2016, 9:20 #86573

    Jeff - I think we will win comfortably at Everton. 2-0 or 3-1.

  4. Made Up Stat

    Mar 18, 2016, 7:36 #86562

    Jimgooner: It's because at the moment the Prem League is made up of very, very ordinary teams. I'm quite convinced that given the 'quality' we've seen this season, the top 5 clubs would be in the lower - possibly even relegation - places of la Liga. And even amongst all this mediocrity, Wenger can only manage at best 3rd place.

  5. mbg

    Mar 18, 2016, 0:43 #86560

    Did you read that ? It's not right laughing.

  6. mbg

    Mar 18, 2016, 0:33 #86559

    Mark from Aylesbury, good post and good point, it's something I've been saying for years ref the protests in the ground (but according to some we're to nice for that and we now see the out come) what I said then and have kept advocating over and over is exactly what your saying the Kronke's, the Ivan's and all the other fat cats will not want to hear their names chanted, we want Kronke out, we want Gazidis out etc, etc, etc, at the Emirates, and heard all around the world, that's one thing that they would hate and would grab their attention fast, very bad for business that, and future investment, and future positions and even worse for the reputation and ego, like I suggested would happen way back, and you've brought it up again they would not want to be associated with that or anything like it and would start to look after their own arses very sharpish indeed, and lets hope that's what's happening now, and can at last see the writing on the wall for TOF, and start disentangling themselves and distancing themselves from him and make him the scape goat (which of course he is, as there's no body else to blame for the regression of this once proud club) and hang him out to dry and quite rightly so.

  7. Jimgooner

    Mar 17, 2016, 23:03 #86558

    How are the spuds second they look an absolute pile of sh-ite whenever I watch them play,midtable at best.

  8. jeff wright

    Mar 17, 2016, 22:16 #86557

    JWE, can you tell us tomorrow night's Euro Millions Numbers using your psychic vision >? If you can see what is going to happen to Leicester in their games then how come you don't know what our result will be against Everton>? Something is not adding up here... How about West Brom at home...Watford at home WHU away... Sunderland AND City away... come to think with Leicester having an 11 point lead over us and only 8 games left to play, I think they will beat Palace who are struggling to score goals ...I think I will desist from having a bet at 7-1 on us winning the league... we would have to win 8 games out of our 9 to play and rely on Leicester losing 3 we had more chance of beating Barcelona than of this scenario happening .So anyway give us you prediction for the Everton game saying 'if we beat them' is no prediction at all ... is it sunbeam >?

  9. JWE

    Mar 17, 2016, 21:53 #86556

    Taking a closer look at the remaining fixtures I can foresee Leicester falling apart and only winning one or two more matches between now and the end of the season. If we can pull off a win at Everton this weekend I can see us going very close as Spurs are not a side to rely on either. Don't give up the hope - WENGER TO WIN THE PREMIER LEAGUE TITLE THIS SEASON!

  10. CT Gooner

    Mar 17, 2016, 21:44 #86555

    I understand why you won't give up your ticket KC, if I was in your shoes I'd think twice. I don't get back to London as much as I'd like, so I can do just as well with red membership. Once the fat lady has technically sung on the title, the fanbase need to vocalize our disgust inside the stadium, at least then the board can't deny the fans are pi$$ed

  11. Lee Bedford

    Mar 17, 2016, 20:16 #86554

    Absolutely right Kev, I knew we were out when the drawer was made in December which is why I flatly refused to part with more of my money and decided against it (apart from going back to Orlando in July for 17nts LOL). It is simple, one team has a forward line of Messi, Neymar and Suarez, whilst the other has Giroud, Welbeck, and Walcott (and still no no. 9!). Although we did have a go last night but had to in reality, again though the damage was done in the first leg, like the previous five years but WENGER KNOWS!??? pfff There used to be a club over there........

  12. anthony walters

    Mar 17, 2016, 20:07 #86553

    kc i agree .i honestly believe wenger loves the club and lets be honest we aren't in bad shape 3rd in the league compared to most but as i have said on previous posts the players simply aren't performing as a unit or individually how they should be .i see no real pattern of play are we a passing side?not really how can we be with sanchez and ramsey 2 stars for example who give the ball unecessarily away so much.are we a strong defensive side of course not with our lack of degensive organisation and vulnerability at set plays.attacking corners we have little idea and poor execution of the corner.welbeck and giroud are good in the air yet unless ozil floats an inswinger free kick or in open play then our crossing is hopeless.can we play a pressing game ?not with ozil ?yet i still think we have a really strong squad look at all they have won for clubs and country.iwobi and young bellerin coming through the future with a couple of signings could be excellent under a new hungry capable younger manager stronger with drive and better organisation.in the stadium the last few home games will be interesting if things get worse how we the crowd react.

  13. CORNISH GOONER

    Mar 17, 2016, 19:51 #86552

    Well as usual with little or no pressure the team performed quite well. Looks like the Egyptian good be better than the squad player we thought him to be. I get the constant complaining about Ozil (the match commentator constantly had a go at him) but he is pure class, makes things look easy, always has that extra bit of time as do all great sportsmen. No-one complains about MSN not tracking back do they? Trouble is, apart from Sanchez he has nothing but journeymen around him. However, the thing that made me really angry was the total arrogance & constant smirking shown by Barca. Some of their playing out from the back was just suicidal - why? Because you could just sense their total lack of respect for the opposition. For me, this just showed, yet again, how far we have fallen away from the elite clubs of Europe. Humiliating! I think Arthur's media performances this week - pre & post match, achieved new levels of lunacy. Where are the men in white coats when you need them?

  14. KC

    Mar 17, 2016, 19:35 #86551

    Wenger could not handle the fans calling for him to leave. I believe the only way he will walk before his contract ends is if there is loud chanting at the Emirates calling for him to step down. If this does not happen he will stay for another year.

  15. anthony walters

    Mar 17, 2016, 19:16 #86548

    highbury boy i'm not old enough for the billy wright era but was there for the end of the terry neill era which got bad.to be honest the billy wright era and the end of the terry neill era we were far worse placed in the league than now.as for walking away or taking a seat upstairs possibly i hope he sees staying on when most fans want change or someone in the club is string enough to at least tell him to quit.8 million a year he's loaded and i don't think that would make his mind up but his pride and stubborness may be more likely him want to carry on.i hope not for the clubs sake and his own reputations sake.

  16. Highbury Boy

    Mar 17, 2016, 18:49 #86547

    Anthony Walters;why at £8m pa plus a bonus for coming Top 4 would he leave willingly without a pay-off? Would you? Also the atmosphere at the stadium is fine until the end when there is some slight booing after a draw or loss. Against Leicester it was great. I have been at Highbury when it was really bad. Last days of Billy Wright were really bad. This is very mild stuff. He and Stan can live with this very easily.

  17. Mark from Aylesbury

    Mar 17, 2016, 18:38 #86546

    A little while back I had a chat with someone who is a little in with the club. His words to me "we've got him to 2017" the look portrayed mores the pity. Anyway I think the board are letting him decide and as a case of respect ( in reality abject failure to manage) are slowly disentangling themselves probably so we don't shout Kronke out , Ivan out along with Wenger out. 2017 is the plan but one big problem 80/20 now want shot of him. The collapse continues. We could be staring at the loss of 4th place trophy in weeks. I have the feeling that things are going to naturally blow. A loss against Everton and I think he has lost the aways. Staying into 2017 as a lame duck not only embarrasses the club but will cause rage to boil over when we hit the inevitable bad run. The arch Wengerites are scattering the journos are ready. It's time for action

  18. mbg

    Mar 17, 2016, 18:30 #86545

    Kenny, yes indeed mate, where have the all gone ? no more of this quoting egg on face to others after rolling over some relegation threatened outfit, but don't be surprised to see them crawling out from under their stone after a draw against Everton. You couldn't make it up.

  19. mbg

    Mar 17, 2016, 18:08 #86544

    In half a dozen years or less TOF will be checking into some Hotel, most likely French eyes glazed with one or two young blondes on his arm and the porter will ask him arsene where did it all go wrong ? and no doubt he'll answer it wasn't my fault.

  20. anthony walters

    Mar 17, 2016, 18:07 #86543

    though i want a change of managet not a chance on earth am i giving up my season ticket someone else will just take my place and i follow arsenal through thick and thin.the negativity within the stadium is not helping the players .if we lose at everton it will get worse or don't win the league which is highly unlikely now i can't imagine arsene wenger being so thick skinned he will want to continue to field teams in that atmosphere.i sense most fans want change now whereas it was a large minority and many very vocal fans on phone ins in the past.most arsenal fans respect what arsene has done but feel he cannot take us forward .

  21. mbg

    Mar 17, 2016, 17:22 #86542

    And if Leicester manage to grab defeat from the jaws of victory you can just imagine the AKB's back on in they're droves squawking and crowing and gloating in defence of they're messiah very conveniently forgetting of course that that's their lord and masters forte, his speciality. You couldn't make it up.

  22. Bard

    Mar 17, 2016, 17:10 #86541

    The silence from the board is deafening at the moment. I doubt whether they have a plan at all and probably didnt envisage such a fall from grace. They will be praying that we get that coveted 4th spot so the ship can be stabilised and then throw a bit of money at it in the summer rather like they did when we bought Ozil. The spin will be that every club has a dip and after all the seasons of success one bad season is no reason to get rid of the manager, so more of the same. The only factor that will influence change will be the fans at the ground.

  23. Kenny

    Mar 17, 2016, 16:59 #86540

    Kev you comment about "Barcelona’s defence did not look particularly strong" thats because they dont need to be strong.You always got the feeling last night that they had another 3 gears to go up.Messi Suarez and Neymar make are so called world class players Ozil and Sanchez look like selling platers.We will never progress under the Wenger.This has been a week from Hell for the AKB's who have been blown out of the water but a vindication for all those who have send for many years now WENGER MUST GO NOW

  24. mbg

    Mar 17, 2016, 16:35 #86539

    Leicester must be TOF's worst nightmare, on two fronts 1, if they win it (and it's theirs to lose) it blows the arse out of all his (and his apologists)excuses about money (even if it already has anyway) and 2, they'll have done something he's been trying to do for years and/to prove everybody wrong (and failed miserably) win it on the cheap. you have to laugh. wenger out.

  25. KC

    Mar 17, 2016, 16:15 #86538

    The match was another example that when a team play open football, defensively we are not good enough. Offensively we get chances because Barca attack but our forwards are not clinical enough. Our play in both 18 yard boxes is not good enough, same story for quite a few years. Admittedly it was Barca but these weakness’s get exposed against many lesser teams. In response to season ticket renewal, I cannot control who owns the club, I support Arsenal full stop. I disliked the old Etonian board as much as I dislike Kronke, in fact I found Hill-Woods comments in the past far more offensive than anything Kronke has said. I want Wenger, Kronke, Keswick out. If I give up my season ticket because I do not agree with everything the board do I will never go again, added to this if I give it up someone else buys it and if and when a decent owner arrives the waiting list will be even longer. The fact remains that voices, protest (if they happen in the stadium) will always be far more powerful than any sentence written on a website where there is no guarantee the individual really supports the club or has ever been to the ground as many trolls have shown.

  26. AJH

    Mar 17, 2016, 14:31 #86534

    Agree with Mark 11.02 post91483, all the time season tickets are being renewed then Stan, Ivan & Arsene have no reason to change their attitude the money is still going in to their pockets. But hey ho !

  27. mbg

    Mar 17, 2016, 14:24 #86533

    Yes did you hear TOF rambling on embarrassing himself with excuses for his failures/failure with we have again been beaten by the winners or runners up, not mentioning why though, Pathetic old man, go now.

  28. Alsace

    Mar 17, 2016, 14:24 #86532

    There has been much talk on this website over the years but very little action. Do we want to form a campaign for the retirement of Arsene Wenger from the Managers role or not? CRETWENG or CRAW ? The purpose of such a campaign would be one of Mohandas Ghandi Style peaceful change. Pointing out that Mr Wenger will increasingly be a commercial as well as a spiritual liability as players of quality become more and more reluctant to sign and the Club's profile diminishes further into a second or third rate power domestically and internationally. Persuading the commercial wing of the organisation that his time has come. Maintaining throughout that however well intentioned Mr Wenger may be, his period of oppressive occupation of our football club must come to an end. We must be free ? All of this must be done extraordinarily carefully and with politeness, but with relentless and unremitting argument. Mr Wenger gets very upset even at polite questioning. We must persuade journalists and ex-players to be bold and to create the expectation that his time has come. I think that we will all be surprised how really sick people in the media are of him.

  29. mbg

    Mar 17, 2016, 14:13 #86531

    There's one thing the fans can take away from it, or rather two, it's another nail in TOF's coffin, and another kick up the arse for his massive ego, now for the biggest kick in his arse to his ego of the lot, the ropey cup. go now you failure.

  30. mbg

    Mar 17, 2016, 14:01 #86530

    The fact we don't expect to go any further every year says it all, and even lucky to get this far on many occasions, we probably done ourselves a huge favour by not scoring first, sad times for a once proud club, and all thanks to an old failed manager and his failed philosophies. go now you old failure.

  31. jjetplane

    Mar 17, 2016, 13:53 #86529

    Could not help noticing how Barca bench, team and fans were just laughing in that casual way as though at the end of the season with all trophies secured. Arsenal were relatively absent from the night and Bellerin is about the only decent player at the club now and he will be gone sooner than later. Wenger would like to keep him for another year so he could possibly go out on a high by selling him and securing another ranch for Stan. Contrast with BM coming back, Leicester's goal and all the other little things that make football a joy. Wenger has managed to shut the door on the club when it comes to joining in. No place at the table now for a practice most fraudulent .... ****ing shameful.

  32. CT Gooner

    Mar 17, 2016, 13:52 #86528

    I liked the effort put in last night, though for the most part we were chasing shadows, it was just too easy for Barca to play out from the back. I really think Gomez was onto something about the space we give, and Vermalen also pointed out the fact we don't practice pressing, it shows. I thought our top two put in good shifts last night, Sanchez was up for it (though is firm is low) and Ozil passed well and even had a shot! I wasn't as impressed by iwobi though. Why not score rather than look for a penalty, and God forbid you actually come back and make a tackle. Anyway, on to Goodison, let's see what happens. As a card carrying WOB since 2012, I'm torn about how to support my club? Should it be full on protest inside the ground, or should we be more respectful to the players?? I'll also be interested to see if my numbers come up on the ticket list again? They put me to the back of the list in '12 after refusing to take a pair, how low is the list now???

  33. Tony Evans

    Mar 17, 2016, 13:42 #86526

    mbg - much as I would like to think otherwise I don't see Wenger departing until at least the end of next season, when his contract is up. He sure as hell will not resign, the board will not sack him and vocal 'Wenger Out' supporter pressure is not there in sufficient numbers. The only possible chance of a parting of the ways is us finishing out of the top four, and do we really want that to happen, as there is no guarantee it would do the trick - and it would immediately hamstring any new manager that wished to delve into the transfer market. I fear we are stuck with him for now.

  34. Ron

    Mar 17, 2016, 13:28 #86524

    Can never gtee results of a footie match but that one over 2 legs was as close to a gteed Arsenal loss when the draw was made wasnt it. They made a fist of it last night v a team playing at less than full intensity in my view. The cash is in the bank! What a horrible tournament it is. That was a decent game last night so far as it went, but most are bloody awful.We cant win that. Thank heaven the CL charade is over for another season. I actually think they ll do OK and get a point or 3 at Goodison Park. Everton have been poor all season at home and i reckon their emphasis is now on the FAC which i think they ll win. Obviously AFC could just f--k it up there, hand Everton a much needed win and implode in the depths of misery that will befall the corridors of the Grove after losing to Barcelona. They never handle losses too well do they!. Ill go 1-1 anyway and the final nail will then be in the title 'challenge'. AFC are a bit of a bogey team to Everton though we must remember. Nothings changing at Arsenal unless Wengers professional pride takes a severe dent. I pity any new Coach going to Arsenal really. He ll have the same regime to work under plus AW drifting around the corridors. Then again, its likely to be Henry as soon as he and Wenger have manipulated the hand over situation and the whole thing that we have now continues on...and on. I have to say that ill be there on the week end, but not totally fussed about the outcome. Its the dying embers of an indifferent season now. Go claim that title Leicester and let this season end on a high that you (and football generally) deserves.

  35. Bob

    Mar 17, 2016, 13:23 #86523

    The most depressing aspect of last night was not the predictable illusion of an honourable exit against a Barcelona team clearly coasting, nor the inflated assessment of performances from the likes of Elneny and Iwobi in such a game. No, the most depressing news was that because Juventus went out England will have four representatives in the Champions' League again, thus lowering the bar to a level Kronke is happy with. Until the standard of entry to this competition is raised there is a risk Wenger will be allowed to coast along on an endless tide of mediocrity.

  36. mbg

    Mar 17, 2016, 13:09 #86522

    Yes it's been confirmed Failed again but we all knew that already, how many years of failure is that now ? no doubt the AKB's in their desperation will try and make it look like a record but we all know what kind of record it really is, Failure. go now you old failure.

  37. Mark

    Mar 17, 2016, 13:00 #86521

    Toni Kroos to Arsenal ?? Pull the other one the guy is too smart and too good to want to come to us now. We are no longer going to be a ''go to'' Club given what is currently going on (exhausted clapped out old Manager, fans finally seeing the light of day about the Club). I think Man Utd's prospects are better than ours right now and thats saying something...

  38. Wenger Must Go

    Mar 17, 2016, 12:50 #86520

    Keown as defensive coach or Arsenal will never win the European Cup. As for winning the league this season you're dreaming Kev.

  39. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    Mar 17, 2016, 12:46 #86519

    John Abrehart; don't know what you've been smoking my friend but even with Pires, Henry, Vieira et al, we never ever looked like winning the CL. Even in 2004 when with the highway wide open, no Barca, Real, Juve etc still found a way to bottle it. Hmmm doesn't it sound familiar to this season - and countless others.

  40. John Gage

    Mar 17, 2016, 12:36 #86518

    "Hello fourth place, my old friend. I’ve come to fight for you again"

  41. Made Up Stat

    Mar 17, 2016, 12:32 #86517

    On the plus side: Wenger has earned another £22,000 since yesterday and Kroenke has trousered a further £3,000 in consultancy fees. (The same as the annual salary of a senior nurse)

  42. Robb1971

    Mar 17, 2016, 12:25 #86516

    Time we laid off the players and focus solely on getting Wenger Out! Further, no EPL team can beat Barca at the Camp Nou at the moment.

  43. jeff wright

    Mar 17, 2016, 12:20 #86515

    If you look at Mascherano's tackle on Danny Boy when he was about to shoot at goal you could see the difference between the two defences . Our defenders were weak and nervy . Messi strolled through them to chip Ospina without any one making a serious attempt a'la Mashcerano style on him. 3-1 one by the way is a hammering at that level. 5-1 on agg a massacre. So let's not get carried away by our players putting in an effort to try and win the game. For me though Messi and co were playing Ali v Foreman rope a dope rumble in the jungle absorbing the wild attacks then when the chances arouse picking us off with well aimed shots. I can't see any positives to be drawn from that defeat,or is our players showing a bit of fight supposed to be one> ? Surely that's what we should expect in every game but unfortunately do not see .Wenger is to blame for this and there were further signs judging by the body language of some players that all is not what it should be in the camp. And that is not just the Nou one. Everton will be a different game all together our players were not expected to win last night so there was no real pressure on them and Barcelona were happy to let them run around all night using up energy .However,they will be expected to beat Everton, who are not likely to want to see that happen. So let's see how things transpire against The Toffees on Saturday with the pressure back on Arsene and on the players who bottle it so often when this is the case. Good old Arsene.

  44. John Abrehart

    Mar 17, 2016, 12:20 #86514

    There are about eight teams that can win this trophy and this has been the same for the last few seasons, 3 from Spain, 2 from Germany, 1 from Italy, 1 from France and one from our own Premier League every decade or so. We used to be that one in the days when Viera, Henry, Pires and company would go rampaging all over the Bernabau and come away with a result in front of a full house. Lately our results prove that we are not that team and we have lost over two legs to all the other Premier League clubs we have played in the competition. These facts do not represent progress Arsene and when he repeated the word 'quality' about 6 times in his post match interview last night I don't know what he was talking about. In fact the competition has become so boring that these 8 teams may just as well fight it out over three rounds to show us what 'quality' really means.

  45. Highbury Boy

    Mar 17, 2016, 12:19 #86513

    Just waiting for Iwobi to be talked up to be great prospect who will play much more next season alongside Wilshere. Then when Ramsey Cazorla and the Ox return plus a fully fit Welbeck we will make a real challenge to Leicester and Spurs. Also I mustn't forget the returning Jenkinson and Sanogo. With the contracts of Arteta Rosicky and Flamini coming to an end this will free up places for real quality and no doubt the PR Dept will highlight the transfer cash available. And so we go on..................

  46. jjetplane

    Mar 17, 2016, 12:13 #86512

    '... the undersigned agrees to the terms of the CL contract as stated though we wish to bring to your attention that this is a competition and we have had complaints that your club is incapable of performing at the required standard or indeed actually competing. We do hope you can look to revise your position and we strongly suggest you tear the club up and start again. See you again next year though it has been muted that a number of teams may refuse to play your club as they consider it an insult to their standing in the game. We concur with such a move and are in the process of petitioning the affected clubs and Leicester!'

  47. Tony Evans

    Mar 17, 2016, 12:07 #86511

    The 5-1 aggregate score rather flattered Barca, as over the two legs we actually created at least six or seven decent chances. The fact that we only converted one showed our complete lack of quality in the final third - our first touch and decision making in and around the box was dreadful. Wenger's excuses get more and more feeble by the day and I am just waiting for him to use the Leicester story now as proof that you don't need to spend big to win titles, after years of saying the exact opposite. Or has he already come out with that one!

  48. Absolute Shower

    Mar 17, 2016, 12:04 #86510

    Why has this season been such a shock to so many ? If you wanted a blue print of how not to win anything just go back to the opening game of this season against West Ham. Out fought in midfield, weak in defence and absolutely no chance of scoring a goal. That one game confirmed we had no chance unless we got lucky in a domestic cup competition.

  49. Nick

    Mar 17, 2016, 11:21 #86509

    Barcelona are good very good but the way we rolled over and exposed our bellies to them for all three of their goals shows all that's wrong with this side, that and the fact that our forwards would have difficulty in scoring in a brothel with a buy one get one free deal, we looked good going forward untill it was time for a final decision and or shot, we still look for one more pass we appear not to have any instinctive finishers no striker who WANTS to score a goal, some of the technique shown when shooting is woeful , leaning back head up, things that you are taught as a schoolboy NOT to do, then we have the passes from around ten yards going astray as if our player's deem all but Hollywood passes beneath them so do not practice bog standards ones that I could do better with standing with my crutches , then needing goals we take off one of our brightest performers to accommodate a player in Walcott who has completely lost any direction he may have had, Giroud came on fired one shot straight at the keeper then proceeded to run round aimlessly giving away free kicks, this performance while not dire in any way apart from in end product in attack and defense summed up our team and manager just not good enough! Wenger must go for us to move forward!

  50. goonersol

    Mar 17, 2016, 11:16 #86508

    No shame in losing to Barca, its the other results that have left us in a mess. Wenger, Kroenke et al are the problem and its a shame that they wont change, giving most fans the only option of revolt to try and get something to happen, wallowing in 4th spot glory seems to be enough for them. They cant say we have not been patient. 10years and counting.

  51. Charles

    Mar 17, 2016, 11:04 #86507

    Last year's defeat to Monaco showed that we weren't good enough and the gross negligence of not buying players in the summer transfer window showed we had no ambition of winning the trophy and were just in it for the cash, therefore I have had no problem ignoring this boring competition until our predictable exit at this stage.

  52. Mark

    Mar 17, 2016, 11:02 #86506

    ST holders when you renew you are giving Wenger and Kroenke a vote of confindence

  53. WENGER HAS TO GO ASAP(MARCUS)

    Mar 17, 2016, 11:00 #86505

    Well that was a surprise?? Not!! Again Kroeke was at the nou camp probably being told the footballing rules smh!! This club is a joke!! They are taking the piss out of us fans big time!! It's a disgrace!!! If you notice they always leak the war chest clap trap in February and March during our usual collapse and when season tickets are up for renewa!! We need to force this clown out who apparently built arsenal loool!! His team selection yesterday was a joke!! So I take it Walcott is definitely finished if iwobi is starting ahead of you loool!! So he rested them for Everton a game I believe we will lose if they score first I have no doubt about it!! We are fighting for top 4 smh. I just don't get how any reasonable person cans still defend wenger?? He can't win the league when Leicester City and Tottenham are the main rivals!! He has to go his job is untenable. Thank god most arsenal fans have realised this now as most polls have a 70-30 ratio wanting wenger gone like the metro, mirror and the sun sites

  54. Bard

    Mar 17, 2016, 10:55 #86504

    No big surprise last night. They always had a couple of extra gears but we at least gave it a go. I thought Iwobi did well and Elnenys goal was a cracker.The real issue was our abject performances in the qualifying group stage. While much of the frustration is rightly aimed at the Weng, its difficult to see a way forward with or without him if the owner doesnt change or change his philosophy. The side needs a clear out and to buy 4 or 5 players and that costs serious money.

  55. Far far away fan

    Mar 17, 2016, 10:50 #86503

    Fair assessment. Wenger's post match masturbation over Barca's genius made me want to kick my dog. But I refrained as I'm saving that kick for Wenger if ever I get to meet him. I thought Ozil actually setup a couple of decent chances. I wouldn't criticize him as that is his natural game, the minimal physical exertion, that is. Wenger should have known that when he signed him. But what I noticed was his disgust in the dying minutes of the game where he refused to go and take the corner. Disgusted at his teammates for not taking the chances and disgusted at the mediocrity of his manager. It is Sanchez that truly worries me. His effort on field has dropped and without his goals to cover it up, he looks like a major liability. Has Wenger finally stripped all the sheen of Sanchez? I must add that being fed all this mediocrity is making me mediocre throughout the week. It is reflecting in my work where I really can't be bothered anymore. Wenger has pulled me down to mid table standards.

  56. Phil

    Mar 17, 2016, 10:33 #86502

    With all the talk of needing a centre half and a 'world class striker ' I think we all missed what should have been the obvious point that without Santi or Jack we have no playmaker in the central two. Mesut doesn't really dictate the game and Ramsey is a box to box player, not a controller.If you don't run the game it is hard to win. This is why the 'I don't need Fabregas, I've got Ozil' stuff was nonsense. They would have played together.

  57. anthony walters

    Mar 17, 2016, 10:32 #86501

    decent performance fro. everyone bar walcott who's confidence is shot but same failings give the ball away in the defensive third too often as great as barca are in attack we shouldn't look vulnerable atvcornets against them which we did almost every time.in attack we aren't ruthless enough.positives iwobi and elneny was superb.the squad is still an excellent one splattered with 2 or 3 good signings and better defensive organisation under a new manager they could be so much better.though i would have loved suarez i cannot see any way liverpool would have sold him to arsenal even if we offered 70 million

  58. RJ

    Mar 17, 2016, 10:25 #86500

    Did anyone else get the fixture update from the club yesterday with the wonderfully optimistic line “With regards to the Arsenal v Norwich City fixture, currently scheduled to be played on Saturday 30th April, this game could yet switch to Sunday 1st May (possible 4.00pm kick off). Confirmation of the date and kick off time is subject to the progress of English Clubs in European competitions. It is likely that that there will be more clarity around this fixture by mid-April.” Well, read that as "clarity in mid-March" or perhaps "at the start of the season" as far as Arsenal are concerned...

  59. Wear Your Colours

    Mar 17, 2016, 10:23 #86499

    I was very disappointed we didn’t get the result we needed last night. We certainly created plenty of opportunities; unfortunately we were not as clinical in our finishing as they were. On the whole I thought we played quite well; we were diligent in getting back behind the ball when they had it and in spells we were really fluent in moving the ball from our defence into attack. I thought the spine of Gabriel, Elneny and Welbeck played well. They certainly gave the team more fluidity and flexibility; they still have some rough edges to smooth out but as the likely replacements for the Mertesacker, Arteta, Giroud spine of two seasons ago I was encouraged to see Arsenal will have a lot more pace and physical presence in its central core in the near future. I guess the one positive in that defeat is that it de-clutters the fixture list for the remaining months allowing us to focus exclusively on reviving our title challenge. Let’s hope we can grind out a victory on Merseyside on Saturday morning. COYG!

  60. chris dee

    Mar 17, 2016, 10:18 #86498

    What's really upsetting is Arsene emphasising that in 5 out of the last 6 seasons we were knocked out by Bayern or Barca as if this acceptable and we shouldn't be questioning our Champions League record.No mention of course of the pathetic losses in the group stages which mean we finish runners up and always have a chance of being drawn against the top teams. What he's also saying is that his team never really had a chance of winning the Champions League anyway,just confirming that in terms of Europe we are the equivalent of Bournemouth of Norwich (no disrespect meant) in the Premiership.It's just not frigging good enough for our club.As for our annual demonstration to the world of the meaning of the word 'chokers' in Premiership........... A word on Theo Woolcott,he has now fallen behind a 19 year old with a handful of games (Iwobi,played well last night) and a player who was not deemed good enough and has been on loan for the last 3 years (Campbell) who both demonstrate an understanding of the game that Theo has never shown.

  61. Redshirtswhitesleeves

    Mar 17, 2016, 10:15 #86497

    And so this spineless gutless rabble go on to Goodison for the final nail to be banged into this seasons coffin....I can't tell you how much I'm looking forward to repeating the exact same process next year for the umpteenth year running, complete with the same mistakes, same lack of investment in 'top top quality', same lack of basic tactics, same lies to the supporters etc.......please do the decent thing and go Msr Wenger, kroenke, gazidis, there's one or two of us who would love to have 'OUR' Arsenal back

  62. Monster Munch

    Mar 17, 2016, 10:03 #86496

    How does Ozil get away any critiscm? He was our most ineffective forward player last night, rarely turns up in the big matches. Loses the ball constantly and shows no desire to win it back. Wenger allows this to continue and you can then begin to understand why the whole team do not work hard off the ball.

  63. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    Mar 17, 2016, 9:53 #86495

    With any luck, in 12 months time Kevin, we won't be here discussing the inevitable last-16 exit, because CL qualification didn't happen. Sad, but it's the only way to change anything at the broken record which is our great club right now.

  64. Mac

    Mar 17, 2016, 9:47 #86494

    It was an entertaining match yesterday and one with little stress as there was no expectation. Ultimately we can see how far behind our team is behind the top European clubs that we were meant to be competing with. Even more so if you saw the end of the Bayern/Juventus match. We simply don't have enough high quality players. Every team can cause an upset in football but the fact that we have never done this in Europe is due to the manager.

  65. Petit

    Mar 17, 2016, 9:35 #86493

    How can we all fail to realise that the problem is no longer about the players but the manager? His tactics are all wrong, not even an MSN attack at Arsenal can change that. Anybody who comes to the club, no matter how brilliant he is, football would be coached out of him. Wake up, he is not walking away, we have at least another miserable season ahead of us.

  66. bromley boy

    Mar 17, 2016, 9:28 #86492

    i tuned into 5 live after the game to hear the views of Arsenal fans and there was still a fan backing wenger . of course every fan has a right to there own opinion but what more will it take to convince the remaining 15%-20% that under the Wenger/Kronke regime Arsenal football club has gone stale and needs a new direction.

  67. Augustus Flair

    Mar 17, 2016, 9:20 #86491

    "Confirmed" in the headline says it all, Kev. We're not even contenders in a much-devalued cup competition now, let alone making a meaningful challenge to Europe's finest. Yep, the lads played pretty well, missed chances, weren't disgraced etc. ... but we're down and out, with a key game to come on Saturday. I'm not hopeful.

  68. Rob

    Mar 17, 2016, 9:16 #86490

    As you say no surprise. Apparently the Barca public stayed away in droves, such is the lure of seeing us ! Defeat or a draw at Goodison will finish any lingering pretence about the Title. I would be more than happy to see us out of the top four if this finally got some changes. But even that would be ignored by Kronke. I see even Ian Wright made the point that we need to aim our fire at Krone as much as Wenger but how we do that when he couldn't give a stuff is anyone's guess.

  69. Nick T

    Mar 17, 2016, 9:14 #86489

    'Arsene Wenger and the transfer window....will it all end in tears?' from November 2015 in the articles archive section.....Shane take a bow son!!!

  70. It's up for grabs now

    Mar 17, 2016, 9:13 #86488

    Well who would have thought it, an Arsenal side managed by Wenger gets knocked out at the last 16 stage in the CL! We all knew even before a ball had been kicked in earnest in the first group stage game, that this was where it would end yet again, regardless of who we were paired against! On its own it’s no great shame losing to the best club side in the world these last few years, but the futility of even being in this competition has been highlighted once more. That’s now six years on the bounce we have been eliminated at this stage. As we all know though, and have all stated a thousand times, it’s not about winning it though is it, it’s purely for the money it generates and nothing more. Still Wenger and the players can now fully concentrate on our only yearly target - Finishing fourth in the league. I really detest what our club has now become - A business and nothing more. I can’t wait to celebrate the day Wenger leaves, preferably with the Kroenke and Gazidis in tow, primarily so that hope can at least return, rather than this predictably extremely boring groundhog feeling year after year after year.

  71. Mark

    Mar 17, 2016, 9:07 #86486

    I go with Roy Keane's comments. he at least respected that previous side we had full of warriors + Talent. This current lot could get turned over by a Pub Team from Hackney Marshes on a wet and windy day. The Club is frail from top to bottom. The Heart has finally gone out of the Club. Will the last fan to leave please turn off the lights so we can save more Money....