#FlashbackFriday – Everton Away

Part two of a look back at the history Arsenal’s trips to Goodison Park



#FlashbackFriday – Everton Away


(Flashbacks for Everton at home can be found here and here, while yesterday’s edition can be found here.

Everton’s opening fixture of the 1985/86 season would be an avenging of their FA Cup Final defeat, with a a 2-0 win over Ron Atkinson’s Man United. This however would be the last piece of league football coverage on British television for the next five months due to Football League’s dispute with the TV companies. One piece of footage that we’re forever thankful would never be in the archives would be Arsenal’s visit to Goodison Park in November that season, as Everton inflicted a 1-6 defeat on the Gunners with goals for Graeme Sharp, Trevor Steven and two apiece for Gary Lineker and Adrian Heath (to make matters worse Everton were considered to be ‘injury hit’ and at the time were even level on points with Arsenal in sixth place).

After a run of eighteen games without loss, Everton returned to the top of the old First Division (a run which included winning at Anfield by two clear goals – the last team to do that until you know who!). A 0-2 defeat to relegation candidates Oxford United at the end of April however meant that Everton were relying on Chelsea to defeat Liverpool in their final fixture at Stamford Bridge to effectively set up a title showdown with surprise title challengers West Ham at Goodison forty eight hours later. Despite a thumping 6-1 win over Southampton on the last day of the season, Everton would be pipped to the title by their Merseyside neighbours, as well as the FA Cup a week later.

The other side of the coin to the 1-6 drubbing of November 1985 with regard to the lack of TV coverage for top flight games during the mid to late 1980s, are that many important turning points during the modern game went uncaptured and Arsenal’s visit to Goodison in early October 1986 is one such moment. After accruing just two wins from their first eight games, George Graham’s Arsenal faced a daunting away trip to Everton laying fifteenth in the table, while Everton would be four points off of the top in third. As described by Jon Spurling in ‘All Guns Blazing’: ‘after four games without a win, he (George Graham) called for greater commitment and effort. He got a frantic, rabid defensive display, with an apoplectic Steve Williams bollocking all and sundry for 90 minutes. To be frank we were pulverized by an Everton team who did everything but score; John Lukic denied the furious scousers with some daring point blank stops’.

The Gunners pulled off their first significant win under George Graham with a thirty yard drive from Steve Williams and, as Spurling states: ‘outplayed, seemingly outclassed but winning 1-0; George was starting to get what he wanted’ (if only there were footage of this game to show you!). Within three weeks, three straight wins for Arsenal and three straight losses for Everton put the two sides on level points. By the end of October Arsenal were two points from the top of the table. By Christmas, Arsenal were five points clear at the top and six clear of Everton in fourth. A post-Christmas collapse for Arsenal however saw the 1986/87 League title back at Goodison, along the way with a 4-0 win over a West Ham, which were a shadow of the side that challenged Everton for the title a year earlier.

Everton secured the League title on Mayday bank holiday Monday with a 1-0 away win over Norwich and finished the season sixteen points clear of Arsenal in fourth place. There were suggestions in some quarters, refuted in this article, that Everton were the best of a bad bunch in 1986/87. The Toffees however have not scaled such heights again since, with Howard Kendall leaving to manage in Spain in the summer of 1987, with his assistant Colin Harvey taking over with much less success. Their trajectory seemingly the opposite of an Arsenal side on the rise. Two games of note for their novelty value involving Everton in 1987/88 are the Mercantile Centenary Challenge match against German champions Bayern Munich and the ‘British Championship’ tie with Scots Champions Glasgow Rangers in Dubai.

The former included Mark Hughes on loan from Barcelona, as well as German Italia ’90 stars Lothar Matthaus and Andreas Brehme, with the same result as their Cup Winners Cup Semi Final second leg tie of two and a half years earlier (minus the atmosphere) a 3-1 win for Everton. The British Championship tie however, against a club who would in the coming years raid Goodison for Gary Stevens and Trevor Steven in the gradual break up of the ‘Class of ‘85’, saw the Toffees defeated on penalties to Rangers. One tie however which signified the differing directions of Arsenal and Everton had been the League Cup Semi Final in February 1988, with the first leg at Goodison Park. Arsenal took the lead through a Perry Groves strike after ten minutes.

In the second half, a penalty awarded against Arsenal sent several Gunners players apoplectic with the referee. The resulting penalty however was skied by Everton’s Trevor Steven, leaving Arsenal players having to hold back the normally mild mannered Niall Quinn from goading the referee in celebration. This match also saw the emergence of Michael Thomas in the Arsenal midfield, ousting Steve Williams who would move on from Highbury during the summer. Arsenal held out to take a 1-0 lead back to Highbury and would triumph in the second leg, 4-1 on aggregate, but lose the final 2-3 to Luton Town.

Arsenal returned to Goodison Park on the final day of the season. Everton had been languishing in fourth place and ten points off of their Merseyside neighbours who had won the League title at a cantor. Arsenal meanwhile finished a relatively low sixth place. With no European places to play for due to the Post-Heysel ban, the final fixture at Goodison would be a relatively meaningless one but for the final appearances in an Arsenal shirt for former captains Graham Rix and Kenny Sansom. Meanwhile making his first team debut had been the star of the 1988 FA Youth Cup winning side Kevin Campbell. The 1987/88 season would wrap up with a 2-1 win for Arsenal, with goals from Martin Hayes and Michael Thomas, while Everton’s goal came from Dave Watson.

The other noteworthy thing about this game is that, as I am unable to find any clips from this game on any video sharing sites and it is not listed as appearing on either Match of the Day or the Big Match, this game must have been Arsenal’s last League match where footage of which was never captured by the TV cameras. Over the close season of 1988, as both Arsenal and Everton finished trophy-less, both looked to bolster their squad with new additions and were in the running to sign West Ham’s Tony Cottee. Arsenal looked odds on land him, however at the last minute Cottee chose to head north to Merseyside for a record breaking £2.2 Million fee, topping the previous record set by Spurs signing Gazza from Newcastle just weeks earlier.

The Toffees also added Chelsea’s Pat Nevin and Gazza’s old team mate at Newcastle, Neil McDonald, with expectations high at Goodison. It would be against Newcastle where Cottee would mark his debut with a hat-trick in a 4-0 win for the Toffees. In late October, Everton would also appear on the first edition of ITV’s ‘The Match’ (rebranded from ‘The Big Match’), which in 1988/89 would be the first regular weekly run of live games exclusive to one channel (and almost exclusively involving one of the ‘big five’ of Arsenal, Everton, Liverpool, Spurs and Man United – the Toffees playing the latter here), which ended in a 1-1 draw.

Cottee however would not significantly improve Everton’s fortunes in the League, as at the time of Arsenal’s visit to Goodison Park in mid-January the Toffees would be languishing in sixth place, while Arsenal were two points clear at the top of the table over second place Norwich with a game in hand. Arsenal’s performance at Goodison that season would be one of ‘shock and awe’, the opening goal from Paul Merson resulting from a ten second burst from one penalty area to the other, looking not too dissimilar to Michael Thomas’s winner at Anfield just a few months later. A brave header from Alan Smith on the end of a David Rocastle cross made it two, while former Toffee Kevin Richardson would put Arsenal into a three goal lead.

Dave Watson would pull one back for Everton (which barely at all looks as if it crossed the goal line), but Arsenal secured the points with a 3-1 win. In 1988/89, Everton would finish even further down in the table in eighth place, though reached two Cup Finals, losing the Simod Cup to Nottingham Forest 3-4 and another FA Cup Final against Liverpool, which however ended in another defeat. After the first six games of the 1989/90 season, bolstered by new signings such as Arsenal legend Martin Keown, Mike Newell and Norman Whiteside, Everton would top the old First Division.

By the time of Arsenal’s visit to Goodison in mid-October, fourth placed Everton would be one point behind Arsenal in second. After being rocked by a 1-2 defeat to Spurs in the week, the Gunners would crash to a 0-3 defeat with goals for Neil McDonald and two for Pat Nevin, which would put Everton back to the top of the table, with Arsenal slipping to fifth. The Everton renaissance however would not last, as just two weeks on the Toffees suffered a 2-6 hammering away at Aston Villa live on ITV, though finished slightly higher in sixth position.

Everton’s opening game of the 1990/91 season resulted in a 2-3 loss to newly promoted Leeds United, with a bizarre half time protest from goalkeeper Neville Southall sitting out half time on his goal line after Everton went three nil down. Everton’s next home game would be against Arsenal where they would fare better, gaining a 1-1 draw with Perry Groves on target for the Gunners, while Mike Newell would score for Everton. The Toffees finished the season in ninth position, but reached the ZDS Cup Final (increasingly meaningless after English clubs’ readmission to European competition that season) after beating Leeds United 3-1 in the Northern final, though lost the final itself 1-4 to Crystal Palace at Wembley.

Reigning champions Arsenal would visit Goodison Park for the second league fixture of 1991/92 and endured their first League defeat since February with Everton inflicting a 1-3 loss on the Gunners, with West Ham old boys Tony Cottee and Mark Ward (twice) on the score sheet, making it three straight defeats at Goodison for the Arsenal. The only bright spot for the Gunners being an excellent strike by Nigel Winterburn, though it was little more than a consolation goal. Arsenal’s winless streak at Goodison would actually stretch to six straight games, with a 0-0 draw on Mayday 1993, as well as back to back 1-1 draws with Paul Merson and Tony Cottee on the score sheet in February 1994, as well as David Unsworth and Stefan Schwarz the following October.

Arsenal finally got their first victory at Goodison Park during the 1990s in what was also Arsenal’s first win during the Bruce Rioch era, with a first goal for new signing David Platt as well as Ian Wright on the score sheet in a 2-0 win in August 1995. It would be back to back 2-0 wins at Goodison as Arsenal, now under Arsene Wenger’s stewardship, took all three points in March 1997, with goals from Dennis Bergkamp and Ian Wright. The following September, early on in Wenger’s first Double season, Arsenal took a 2-0 lead again with first half goals from Ian Wright and Marc Overmars. However second half goals from Michael Ball and Danny Cadamarteri gave Everton a 2-2 draw.

In March 1999, in Arsenal’s last visit to Goodison during the twentieth century, goals for Ray Parlour and Dennis Bergkamp gave the Gunners a 2-0 win. This victory kept Arsenal in the title race four points behind Man United, a key moment in this game however would be the sending off of Emmanuel Petit for two bookable offences by referee Uriah Rennie, which saw him suspended for the FA Cup Semi Final tie with Man United after just returning from injury. Manu stated that: ‘I tried to see Mr Rennie after the game at Goodison last Saturday because I wanted to hand him my shirt. It wasn't intended as a sarcastic gesture - I meant it’.

In the aftermath of this game Petit started to make threats about leaving the English game, quoted in the Daily Mirror as claiming that ‘referees seemed to be treating star players as a kind of trophy, and that they go home to their wives and say `Guess what - I sent off that Emmanuel Petit today’. Manu also stated that he was ‘fed up’ and that he was: ‘not even sure that winning the Double again this season can make me change my mind about leaving’. Petit’s threats would actually be followed through around eighteen months later, moving on to Barcelona with Arsenal team mate Marc Overmars whose goal against Everton in late April 2000 gave the Gunners a 1-0 win and a sixth straight season unbeaten at Goodison Park for Arsenal.

Seven months on, Everton managed to achieve their first win over Arsenal at Goodison in nine years with goals from Danny Cadamarteri and former Gunners striker Kevin Campbell that inflicted a 0-2 defeat on Arsenal and allowed Man United to open up a five point gap at the top of the Premiership. Arsenal however would be back to winning ways at Goodison in early February 2002, as a Sylvain Wiltord goal secured a 1-0 win as Arsenal would be on their way to a third League and FA Cup Double.

The Gunners next visit to Goodison Park eight months on would be the first of the David Moyes era. Arsenal had remained unbeaten in domestic football during the interim period and took the lead again through a Freddie Ljungberg goal. Everton equalised with a goal from Tomasz Radzinski. Going into the last minute of the game, Arsenal’s unbeaten run looked to be extended for one further game until sixteen year old substitute Wayne Rooney hit a thirty yard shot from out of the blue to steal all three points for Everton to inflict a 1-2 defeat on the Gunners. ‘Remember the name’ screeched excitable commentator Clive Tyldesley (if only we could have forgotten it in the years since!).


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  1. exiled&dangerous

    Mar 20, 2016, 0:29 #86690

    ^ Looks. Looks and attitude. Fingers have been outrunning the ale over the keyboard. K?

  2. exiled&dangerous

    Mar 20, 2016, 0:16 #86689

    Everton away - it was always one of the highlights of the season for me, back when you could actually afford to go to the games on the train without selling at least one vital organ. Great ground, great atmosphere, and you could go in the pubs before and after the game without getting any loos or attitude. Hope they win the Cup this year, and that's got nothing to do with my two EFC supporting cousins. One question about today's game. Why didn't he take Ospina off? He was clearly fecked - hip or dead leg - and it could easily have cost us half of our lead, and we all know what happens then....... overall, 8/10. And a bit of 'too little, too late'.

  3. Badarse

    Mar 19, 2016, 23:52 #86688

    Round, like a circle in a spiral, like a wheel within a wheel, never ending or beginning on an ever spinning reel,like a foolish jeffy wrighty or a bafooning Arseneknewbestie. Like a snowball down a mountain, or a carnival balloon. Like a carousel that's turning or a titty called mark the nark, running rings around the moon. Like a clock whose hands are sweeping past the minutes of it's face; and the world is like an apple whirling silently around Exeter's empty space head. Like the circles around Ron's eyes when he thinks he's talking sense that you find-in the windmills of your mind. Where's me cornflakes?

  4. jeff wright

    Mar 19, 2016, 22:18 #86687

    leek fc ,my neck of the woods...banners...could be champions ... cluck cluck cluck...you couldn't make it up

  5. leek fc

    Mar 19, 2016, 21:38 #86686

    Yes jeff. And it remains to be seen that we actually could be champions. Are your sure it wasn't you with the banner, after all it is your neck of the woods.

  6. Billthered

    Mar 19, 2016, 21:19 #86685

    look boys I am older than 99 per cent of you and been following our great club since 1961 so please don't fight amongst yourselves. We had that with other fans in the seventies and early eighties and believe it or not we were a force. The one thing we had was solidarity standing side by side. If OGL leaves we will still be AFC standing side by side forget about all those Johnny come lately's we will always be here long after they go back to where they belong. We are the Arsenal and we are the best we are the arsenal 8 so f**k all the rest.

  7. Mark From Aylesbury

    Mar 19, 2016, 21:11 #86684

    Gooner Ron - Good question in answer I'd go for a yes they would be caught. Simply because they (Leicester) have never really been put under sustained pressure by the chasing pack

  8. GoonerRon

    Mar 19, 2016, 20:45 #86683

    A (very) hypothetical question for everyone - if we win all of our remaining games (and I know there are plenty of caveats about that statement) do you think we would be champions?

  9. A Cornish Gooner

    Mar 19, 2016, 20:38 #86682

    Good win today. Saddest post so far from Sid/Saddo. Doesn't it make you proud to be a Gooner. Wenger's legacy. Well done Arsene.

  10. mbg

    Mar 19, 2016, 20:32 #86681

    Mark from Aylesbury, yes, and I wonder were they children again, wenger out now.

  11. jeff wright

    Mar 19, 2016, 20:21 #86680

    lee kfc, it remains to be seen if we finish in front of City yet sunbeam... don't get too carried away now ... we have to play them at Poundland... second last game so then let's hope the result is better than our one at United was ...if City beat United tomorrow we will be in a 3 way fight with them and WHU for 3rd and 4th place... we have to play the hHammers who beat us 2-0 at home away as well shortly ... nothing settled yet other than us not finishing first or second again ... good old Arsene... mbg... yes lee kfc who is to self awareness what Russell Brand is to comedy and Colseyboy are like two farmyard chickens clucking away to one another... first bad result and they will go off again in a flap ... cluck cluck cluck...

  12. Mark from Aylesbury

    Mar 19, 2016, 19:36 #86679

    Sid / Jammeesooon whoever you are not another they got beaten up for holding up a poster carpola again. Where the lot who shouted Kronke out similarly beaten by your Hitler mob. Total tosh

  13. Tony Evans

    Mar 19, 2016, 19:23 #86677

    Looks like it could be the start of the usual winning streak when it's too bloody late to matter - apart from the 4th place trophy battle.

  14. Barnaby

    Mar 19, 2016, 19:19 #86676

    4th place is up for grabs now!!!!!!!! Lolololololol

  15. mbg

    Mar 19, 2016, 19:03 #86675

    jw, firm friend ? don't you mean Farm fed.

  16. leek fc

    Mar 19, 2016, 18:56 #86674

    yes but jeff. you haven't mentioned the price available for your wonders that are Man City. the team whom you have ejaculated over all season especially after the first 5 games or so and even 6 weeks ago were predicting to finish miles above us. Your record player is always stuck and you pint glass always half empty. See ya at the Watford game but i think not. Anyway Colesy, excellent win, this club of ours is in very safe hands. oo to be a gooonnna

  17. anthony walters

    Mar 19, 2016, 18:54 #86673

    everton not everyone in my last post !mistype

  18. mbg

    Mar 19, 2016, 18:48 #86672

    Oh dear that moistening didn't last long, Leicester well done and thanks, you've done us all a great service, I suppose we'll not hear from the AKB's for a fortnight, it was good while it lasted though the party was in full swing too. wenger out.

  19. jeff wright

    Mar 19, 2016, 18:46 #86671

    Latest title odds. Leicester 8/15 odds on ... the bookies wil be paying out early at this rate on the Foxes... spuds are 7/2 second best ...AFC 11/2... no hopers don't panic though we are odds on to finish 4th! Stan is as happy as Larry with that and Sanchez looks likely to force a move in the summer bring in even more dosh for the greedy syrupy one ..in the meantime lee kfc cluck cluck cluck... and his firm friend Colesyboy are back posting after a win natch at least that is until we get another bad result when once again they will vanish from sight .You couldn't make it up.

  20. anthony walters

    Mar 19, 2016, 18:40 #86670

    excellent performance though everyone were poor to say the least.the defence apart from the first 5 minutes were solid .coquelin and elneny played the best the 2 deep lying midfielders have played together all season .elneny is proving an excellent signing getting better each match cazorla and ramsey really shouldn't play in that position again in fact chambers plays it far better who did well the little time he was on .iwobi continues to progress well though still plenty of room for improvement.ozil and sanchez played their part and but both played within themselves ozil though played a part in his own injury turning his back in the challenge if he would have faced up he could have avoided it.welbeck continues to impress a player i have always rated through his all round game though he sometimes needs to kick on and score 2 or 3 and be a bit more ruthless though his work for the team is brilliant.whichever side of the wenger out in or in debate could easily say this match proves their arguement to me. to me a simple one is elneny coquelin chambers and if fit wilshire should be the ones to play the two deep lying midfielders role as they will protect the back four and give us a platform for attacking players to perform.ie arsene stop playing too mant attacking midfielders to accomodate them .

  21. mbg

    Mar 19, 2016, 18:27 #86668

    What was that excellent prediction again ? pray tell, wenger out.

  22. jjetplane

    Mar 19, 2016, 18:23 #86666

    IWOBi sounds like a Wenger out with that name but great to see Colsey back and Leek and if we can just get the new numbers from Westie we are good to go .... Wenger is apparently stalling on a contract renewal having obliterated Everton. Barcelona can laugh all they want - same time, next season, same result.

  23. jeff wright

    Mar 19, 2016, 17:57 #86664

    We all make typos Leek Fc . We are not doing a grammar exam on here .When I need advice from someone posting on here using another club's name for an handle then I will ask for it. You have to laugh though how you and your pal Colesyboy always pop up AFTER a win! Don't you have any self awareness at all>? You couldn't make it up.

  24. mbg

    Mar 19, 2016, 17:55 #86663

    BigGoonerDave, that's always been the way mate,(and to think we used to laugh at the man u fans for just coming out after a win) and yes why have they not been on crowing for the last three four days ? and anyway as I said earlier what exactly have they to crow about and remind us off ? i'd love to know, certainly not the humiliations and embarrassments, we're well aware of those. wenger out.

  25. Exeter Gunner

    Mar 19, 2016, 17:53 #86662

    Pressure off, we can 'play our game' again. Leicester win, West Ham draw, even less pressure for the next fixture. Expect a thumping win over Watford. And back the AKBs crawl. Have they any idea what laughably predictable characters they are? Where was your defence of dear old Arsene when he really needed you?

  26. leek fc

    Mar 19, 2016, 17:43 #86661

    jeff. its IWOBI. call yourself a fan ??????

  27. Oda

    Mar 19, 2016, 17:35 #86660

    They won today to make sure of top four. Otherwise it will hurt the club and the players pockets so the pressure was ON but for that reason only. Also Everton have been terrible at home this season. WENGER OUT. Pease everyone don't loose focus on reality of the situation. We need to change things ASAP. Please if you are true goners you know what I'm talking about. Good job to the away fans holding the signs again. We need to do that at home as well.

  28. Roy

    Mar 19, 2016, 17:32 #86659

    He should step aside this Summer whatever happens from here on in, but he won't which means we still have at least one more Groundhog Day season to endure. Should have won the title, we know it, and so must he. Even a miracle occurring to give us the title wouldn't convince me that change is not needed, the same mistakes have been repeated far too many times. Even if it means taking a small step backwards in order to go forward again, then so be it. Wenger and Stan out.

  29. jeff wright

    Mar 19, 2016, 17:25 #86658

    Typical result once the title was gone with us 3rd favs at 7-1 and Leicster odds on .When we were 6-4 favs going into the United away and Swansea at home games we couldn't hack it. Wenger was bricking it along with our players.All the sin in the world is not going to change that.Soon talking up the 4th place trophy will begin with with no hope of us winning the league again with Leicester now having just 7 to play and a 11 point lead over us their games to play away to United and Chelsea do not look as daunting as they would have done in times past so it should be a straight forward job to wrap up the title for the well organized Foxes . Wenger should resign at the end of the season whether or not he gets 4th place or not he f*cked it up big time again the arrogant old fool. Iowba scored a good goal but his overall game still needs improving on he looks a better option than Wally..Good old Arsene. You couldn't make it up.

  30. Hiccup

    Mar 19, 2016, 17:23 #86657

    An excellent day. Three points; West Ham drop points; and we 'can' perform when we are under pressure (as explained by the above). I reckon we are on the cusp of being good to go for next season. Oh yes, and the AKB's are safe and well it seems. Don't be strangers.

  31. BigGoonerDave

    Mar 19, 2016, 17:19 #86656

    Funny how when we get a win all the Wengerites come crawling out of the woodwork to remind us of the result. Haven't seen too many during our abject failure to mount a serious title challenge!!!!

  32. mbg

    Mar 19, 2016, 16:40 #86655

    Tee hee.

  33. goonercolesyboy

    Mar 19, 2016, 16:38 #86654

    Don't listen to that mug uiresbridge, clueless like most of the anti brigade on here, spouting drivel as per usual. Good win today. Proper player Iwobi. Where is that other mug Mark from yesterday predicting a loss? Crawled back under his rock like the others on here.

  34. BigDavethevGooner

    Mar 19, 2016, 16:37 #86653

    GoonerRon,just to put you right, the pressure is on to win the title,not to finish fourth........again. Remember the deluded one said "judge me in May". It' doesn't apply when Leicester are 11 points in front and the Totts are in contention for the title.If we had been properly managed we could have had the title sewn up within the next couple of weeks.

  35. GoonerRon

    Mar 19, 2016, 15:36 #86651

    @ mbg - no pressure? Going out of two cup competitions earlier in the week and facing a must win game to stay remotely in the title race and with other teams breathing down our necks for top 4. Yeah, no pressure at all.

  36. Big Raddy

    Mar 19, 2016, 15:03 #86650

    Surely today's game was the most pressure we've had all season are you a spuddy mgb.

  37. mbg

    Mar 19, 2016, 14:51 #86649

    No pressure and the little fast track bullies do it again who'd have thought it ? now all's left is some one to come out and talk a good game and tell us all how we've been wrong about them, who ? it's hard to know in the absence of the welsh Jesus danny boy ? or wally maybe ? he has to earn his money somewhere, maybe we'll just have to wait for TOF himself and his great mental sperritt crap. wenger out now.

  38. leek fc

    Mar 19, 2016, 14:46 #86648

    Excellent win and an excellent prediction from JWE

  39. mbg

    Mar 19, 2016, 12:56 #86646

    As someone has already said there's no pressure now, and that's just the way the little dwarfs and snow white like it.

  40. John F

    Mar 19, 2016, 10:59 #86643

    Mark I think Wenger is trying to get us to refocus on the top four battle,so if we do finish in the top four we can all celebrate and the players can take selfies and airbrush our title challenge out of history.It's the same spin as I heard from a rather posh lady friend of Ian Duncan Smith this morning "Ian only got into politics to help the poor" I nearly fell off my bike.Tell your father in law frost does not really affect roses.

  41. Stuart

    Mar 19, 2016, 9:37 #86640

    Everton and Arsenal. Two of the old great names. I've always had a soft-spot for them and have always wished them well. Any news on whether Wenger built them too?

  42. Mark from Aylesbury

    Mar 19, 2016, 9:05 #86638

    Sorry terrible typo should have been Weather not Whether (schoolboy error)

  43. Mark from Aylesbury

    Mar 19, 2016, 9:01 #86637

    Well on we stumble forward with Wenger apparently worried about falling out of the top 4. He sounds like my father-in-law worried about a frost hurting his roses. My father-in-law can't control the whether whereas last time I looked Wenger does have some control over team affairs. Of course the players might try and pull one out of the bag ad ultimately falling out of top 4 hurts their own commercial value but we will see. A strange state of affairs whereby the social media battle is being won hands down by the Wenger outs. The media is turning. The board is silent in his defense yet on he stumbles not gauging that one minute he is claiming responsibility for the whole rebuilding of Arsenal yet can't control a downward plunge out of the top 4? What a greedy little control freak, ruining a part of our lives cos he can't think of any other way to fill his life (post media sacking from French TV) Up the Arsenal down with Arsene

  44. Kockney Gooner in New York

    Mar 19, 2016, 3:38 #86634

    Thanks Robert I love these flashback/throwback write ups! Again I'll say it that, unfortunately, these great reminisient write ups seem to be only enjoyable thing about my beloved Arsenal these days. No wonder I'm bald pulling my hair out since '07 with the groundhog bolloxs year after year. Anyway I'm Arsenal through and through and because Im obsessed by The Arsenal I'll be in local NYC bar again tmrw watching them play Everton while screaming at anyone mot putting effort in, zonal marking bollox, and usualtactical misdemeanors. Why do I put myself through it?! Aaaaaaarghhh!!!!!!!!!! Sorry had to let that out!!!!!!!

  45. mbg

    Mar 19, 2016, 0:01 #86632

    ArseneKnewBest, unfortunately every team fancy their chances against us mate (and more than just fancy too and have done for years) thanks to a clueless manager.

  46. Patrick

    Mar 18, 2016, 22:20 #86631

    Ha ha ha ha!!! Sorry, Yes I meant Graeme! Too many Friday sherbets. Saying that, the twins from the funhouse left a mark on my memory!

  47. Arseneknewbest

    Mar 18, 2016, 22:13 #86630

    Patrick - Nice one. I really enjoyed reading that. I used to write nasty stuff about Chelsea in all my blues-supporting brother's books when I was a kid. I think it put him off reading - shame it didn't stop him liking the pensioners too! When you say Pat Sharpe though, do you actually mean Graeme Sharp? Pat Sharpe was an 80s icon of a slightly different kind - a be-mulleted dj and child's entertainer if memory serves me right. I used to like Trevor Steven and Sheedy from that team. I don't suppose the anti-Liverpool posters you made still exist - they'd probably be a very good read. I took my kid to the Villa away game this year - he loved it. Still, we were top of the table then.

  48. Patrick

    Mar 18, 2016, 20:11 #86629

    I grew up in the eighties and had an irrational hatred of Liverpool. I remember being 9 when Wimbledon beat them and I made posters of support for Wimbledon which I stuck in my mum and dads front window of the flat. It was three stories up but I thought people would see! I remember being so confused watching Tottenham Liverpool fixtures and not knowing what to hope for. Because of this hatred towards Liverpool growing in inside my primary school age head, I grew and affinity to Everton. I loved pat sharpe, Neville southall, pat van den Howe etc. What a solid team. And those cup finals when they were toe to toe with Liverpool. That is where my love of football came from. Men who played the game the raw, meaningful way. I remember hopefully yearning for The Arsenal to be in cup finals pushing for honours, but then I would watch from the west upper, nial quinn cocking up and craning my neck to see pat Jennings' kicks re enter the atmosphere. Whilst the quality was not quite there, the connection i felt with the team was so obvious to me. They waved, fought and cared. Any Everton fixtures take me back to these days when I fell in love with football and fell in love with those red and white shirts. I'm planning now on taking my five year old for his first game. Will he have the same connection? Will he think Arsenal represent him?

  49. Arseneknewbest

    Mar 18, 2016, 20:09 #86628

    Rob - many thanks. Everton will fancy their chances of breaking the semi-jinx that we hold over them tomorrow I suspect. I'm expecting a high-paced game where they try to pressure us at every opportunity. I hold no hope that we'll come through or that a victory would matter in any case. Your final para is typically well put.