A Lot More Like It

Online Ed: Arsenal put in quality display at Goodison Park



A Lot More Like It


Yesterday’s convincing win at Everton saw the kind of Arsenal performance that would win them this season’s Premier League had they been able to produce it more often. And if they put a run of games like this together between now and the end of the season, they will certainly run the teams above them close and in all likelihood overtake Spurs. However, the gap to leaders Leicester might be too big. The Gunners would need them to have something of a collapse to make up the 11 point margin between the two sides, even though Claudio Ranieri’s side have played a game more. Winning every remaining match would give Arsenal 79 points. Leicester have 66, and 21 still to play for. They would need to lose three of their remaining seven matches (of which four are at home).

Perhaps it was a case of the pressure being off and Arsenal putting in a decent performance, with the consensus being that they have blown their chance. It wouldn’t be the first time. Still, let’s at least be glad that they have finally re-found their mojo in the Premier League. They’d won just two of their previous nine fixtures in a competition they were leading after Christmas. It should be borne in mind that Everton have had a very questionable record themselves at home of late, losing many of their recent matches. On paper, this looked like a difficult away fixture, in reality, it proved anything but.

Arsenal started Iwobi as they had at the Nou Camp, and Francis Coquelin replaced the injured Flamini in the starting eleven. The combination of Elneny and Coquelin worked well, providing a more disciplined base to the midfield. Not least because Elneny is less wasteful with the ball, less prone to get caught in possession (and out of position) as Aaron Ramsey has proven. His finishing needs a bit of work, but that debut goal at Barcelona will have done him no harm in that respect. He seems to dovetail fairly well with the attacking players and adds balance to the side. Danny Welbeck was the only UK born player to start yesterday. Remember when the club announced the deals of five UK born players signing long term contracts and the idea that the future was British (Wilshere, Ramsey, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Gibbs and Jenkinson). Theo at that time was holding out for a better deal. The club need a certain number of homegrown players, but after yesterday’s performance, there is an argument that only Welbeck might start with any regularity when all of the above are fit (and in Jenkinson’s case, even back at the club).

Alex Iwobi was given the Man of the Match award, and there is no question his performances at both the Nou Camp and Goodison were a breath of fresh air. Prepared to take players on, work to find space and link up. Compare with Theo, who often does not find positions to receive the ball. Iwobi also works hard for the team. One very noticeable aspect of the match yesterday was how hard the Gunners worked to press their opponents. It was refreshing to see, and forced Everton into making errors and ceding possession. With the ball, there was a zip to their play, with more forward balls, more creative play, seemingly greater understanding in spite of the relative unfamiliarity on paper. They took apart a team that were inferior to them, something they have struggled to do far too often this season. It was as if they had been given a rocket up the arse. Frustrating on one level to see they are capable of playing to this level when they so often do not. And inconsistency is a byword for the Gunners’ season. There have been some very good performances, alongside the rank ones.

Perhaps it is personnel. Perhaps the mix of players has not been right. That is the manager’s job. Arsene Wenger decided that he did not need to buy another holding midfielder last summer, but with Elneny playing with such discipline yesterday, one might wonder whether Arsenal would have been better served by buying someone like Schneiderlin last summer. The defence looked far better, far less exposed. Mertesacker remained on the bench and Gabriel had an excellent game. The decision to leave a patently injured David Ospina on the field for the last quarter of the match mystified me. Sure, Macey’s the third choice keeper, but the Colombian’s reluctance to get involved in the physical stuff after taking his knock was a real gamble. Fortunately, the players in front of him generally cut out the danger before he had to get involved. Everton hit the post early on, but for the most part, were fairly nullified.

Perhaps, rather strangely, the defeat against Barcelona helped the team. Aside from giving Iwobi, Welbeck (who was excellent yesterday) and Elneny more game time, the opposition allowed them the space to create and demonstrate how well they can play against a quality side. Granted, the finishing did not happen, but there were no shortage of chances. That continued against Everton, although this time, two of the opportunities went in. We can wonder what difference Danny Welbeck might have made to the team were he fit all season, but critically, the club knew he was out for a long period before last summer’s transfer window closed, and chose to rely on Giroud and Walcott as their centre forwards. The development of Iwobi, the form of Welbeck and the impressive contributions of Joel Campbell must raise questions over Theo’s future at the club. He is starting to look surplus to requirements. Iwobi, after only a handful of appearances, already looks a far better player.

So Arsenal’s season is not yet officially dead. There is the slim hope that Leicester might suffer a Devon Loch style collapse and that Spurs will drop the points that ensure it is not they who capitalise. All three teams have no other competitions to distract them now. Whether Arsenal can play the kind of game they did at Everton when they are back on home turf facing a side that are more interested in parking the bus remains to be seen. Looking at the table, glory looks a long shot, but at least the flame on the candle of hope flickers a while longer.

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  1. mbg

    Mar 22, 2016, 14:31 #86880

    Far far away fan, but there lye's the problem mate, it doesn't matter who we sign, it will make no difference whatsoever with TOF in charge. wenger out.

  2. jjetplane

    Mar 22, 2016, 12:53 #86865

    Looks like it's GOONErON coming down with The Spaffs! Night Nurseeeee ....me tell yer! lol! can I just say I have (bit like an AKB I suppose) total faith in Barkley and remain faithful to the reality (oncoming) that Everton and an assortment of 8 other teams will finish above Arsene FC. I am shall we say indifferent to the Spuds but in Kane and Alii they have two truly awesome players who understand economy, movement, temperament, precision .... 'look at all the leaves bursting through the sunlit lane/....' Seriously though - is Gooneron actually Westie? Similar frustrations lol!

  3. Lionel Grey

    Mar 22, 2016, 9:44 #86828

    jeff-Are you the famous'jeff wright storyteller'It would be amazing if you were as I've seen him live twice.

  4. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    Mar 22, 2016, 9:23 #86827

    Far Far Away Fan; my friend, do you also believe in Father Christmas and the fairies at the bottom of the garden. We've been hearing all this for many many years now.

  5. Far far away fan

    Mar 22, 2016, 9:16 #86826

    'Leicester are like the Arsenal of old' says a pundit or somewhat.. I think I concur

  6. Lionel Grey

    Mar 22, 2016, 9:10 #86825

    jeff,Are you in real life the famous 'jeff wright storyteller'It would be amazing if you were as I have seen him perform twice.

  7. Far far away fan

    Mar 22, 2016, 8:53 #86824

    The Sun has an article about how the board has demanded Arsene to spend this summer. The article mentions all the usual big names. Significantly, Ozil has threatened to quit the club if Arsene stays. Looks like the board will want to retain its superstars to keep Brand Arsenal untarnished. We might not be able to get rid of Wenger just yet, but we might see some new signings at least

  8. Patrick Atkinson

    Mar 22, 2016, 8:43 #86823

    Good article very refreshing, however I am not too sure of our back four. it's good to here they are supporting the keeper with his frailities'. Welbeck,Sancheze have played great with discipline and effort, this could be a basis of a new side for the coming season.

  9. Bard

    Mar 22, 2016, 8:19 #86822

    CT:agree mate. They will all be strengthening and we know from experience we don't like to compete even in the transfer market so more of the same with a bit of tweaking.

  10. CT Gooner

    Mar 22, 2016, 1:30 #86821

    I read some interesting points, though the one I'm most interested in is how will we strengthen this summer? We all understand the war chests available at city,United and Chelsea will be huge. I think Liverpool will give Koop some money, and we have to assume Spurs will finally allow Poch to spend some coin, and Everton with our old board member. So we can assume crazy prices, and we know how our old fraud does with high transfer prices! I also think we'll be looking for a new RB, with Bellerin returning to Barca. So all in all, I really don't see us moving forward in the summer, except losing the over 30 dead weight. I really hope we can be sure we're done with him this time next year, I'm sick of this being all to predictable.

  11. jeff wright

    Mar 21, 2016, 23:50 #86820

    Some Roses are red some are yellow and this fake Badarse is a silly fellow. "Your heads gone..." Really how many did I have then > ? Heads is plural dummy ,head is singular...it should read , your head has gone.... the real Brian Badarse knows how to spell something that simple...even if he does plagiarize poetry with all the dexterity of a mad bull in a china shop. You couldn't make it up.

  12. mbg

    Mar 21, 2016, 23:45 #86819

    jw, yes mate, we can just see when the time comes when it's mathematically impossible (and it's not far away now) all we'll be hearing is excuse after fooking excuse, that's if we hear anything at all, my guess is we'll hear nothing, and the silence will be deafening, (especially from the wengerites as it is more or less already anyway) and when the final whistle goes they'll not be able to get out of dodge quick enough (probably heading to the airport straight from the stadium with TOF leading the charge) leaving the proper fans to pick up the pieces.

  13. jeff wright

    Mar 21, 2016, 23:35 #86818

    leek fc ,quotation marks should only be used to quote something that someone actually wrote or said. I never made those comments that you have attributed to me about Herr Klopp. So can you refrain from posting comments with quotation marks claiming that these were made by myself. I realize of course that you are desperate to try and score points in your tedious attacks on me .Why not instead just answer the question of whom it was that you tipped for the title>? cluck cluck cluck...

  14. mbg

    Mar 21, 2016, 23:24 #86817

    Leggo, yes other managers and clubs will learn (and have learned) a hell of a lot of us and our old fraud of a manager, (but not the way wengerites might think) like you say how to build a stadium with proper seating, with proper sections, how to employ a proper manager with ambition, how to buy proper players, who can coach them properly, tactics, defend properly, etc, etc, how to be honest, humble, etc, etc, and most importantly of all not to outstay his fooking welcome by five or six years, maybe we've something to be thankful to wenger for after all.

  15. Mark from Aylesbury

    Mar 21, 2016, 23:21 #86816

    Leekey - who did you tip then for the premiership go on tell us? I would also consider going onto Untold however it appears unlike the Gooner that allows free views Untold his heavily censored. Why don't you go on Le Grove or other sites? I think I know why

  16. Leek fc

    Mar 21, 2016, 22:17 #86815

    And it goes without saying "klopp is the answer to all of liverpools dreams". Quoted Jeff Wright. And there lies the problem with online gooner. Far, far , too many outsiders who have no heart in the club. Untold Arsenal anyone ??!?!??

  17. GoonerGoal!

    Mar 21, 2016, 22:14 #86814

    No, it's not "deja vu." We HAVE all been here before. Ladies and gentlemen, for the 12th season in row I give you... "Too Little, Too Late!" starring Arsene Wenger, Ivan Gazidis, and the occasional special appearance by Stan Kroenke! It's the longest running show in world football... Don't worry if you missed it, there's always next season! KROENKE/GAZIDIS/WENGER OUT! VIVE LA REVOLUTION!

  18. jeff wright

    Mar 21, 2016, 20:41 #86813

    Too true mbg ,Wenger wants nothing better than for everyone to forget this latest disastrous season , when the league was there for the taking but it was mighty Leicester and the spuds who grasped the opportunity and not himself. The reality of the alleged title challenge will soon be exposed when it becomes mathematically impossible to win the title,it is in reality highly unlikely anyway .Wenger of course can't admit this so he just wants everyone to keep quiet and back him up.We have been here many, yawn, times before and know how the story ends. You couldn't make it up.

  19. leek fc

    Mar 21, 2016, 20:38 #86812

    well ok then jeff. so far this season you have tipped the 'unbeatable Man City' then its onto 'possible winners' spuds and last week the 'champions' Leicester. you are so repetitive it stinks. i am all for debate concerning the ARSENAL but your contribution smacks of HATRED....... and for the record this is not an AKB, AAA, AMG post.

  20. mbg

    Mar 21, 2016, 20:13 #86811

    goonersol, I stand corrected, obviously I read to much into your original post, it's just some come on and never tire of making excuses for, and trying to divert attention from their messiah failings, some good honest follow ups also, I certainly don't want to see the spuds winning it either, but you know something it could be the best thing ever happened to shake us out of what we're in, I agree with Red Member but now is the time to keep the pressure on when the seasons still up and running when they're all still here to hear and see it, not when it's over and everything's closed down and TOF and the rest of the wasters are scattered around the beaches of the world.

  21. jeff wright

    Mar 21, 2016, 19:55 #86810

    Alsace ,a nice analogy of Madame Kroenke's boudoir with Wenger's stadium of illusions . The reality of the stadium itself and the services provided there are of a more pragmatic sort with comparisons more suited to that of a rip-off seedy Soho clip joint where the Champagne tastes just like Coca Cola . Good old Arsene.

  22. alsace

    Mar 21, 2016, 19:00 #86809

    Absolument magnifiqu even. Really enjoyed those.

  23. Arseneknewbest

    Mar 21, 2016, 18:48 #86808

    Bard and the Alsatian - Nice. Plenty of stimulating imagery there. Linking Arsenal and fornicatin' these days is so inappropriate that it has oodles of comedy value. Used to be a time though when for me ladeez, Arsenal and mind-bending drugs formed my unshakeable holy trinity of desires. It's all changed now sadly and the fabled scottish sex method seems most apt, i.e. in, out, repeat if necessary. Now, where's me viagra...

  24. Bard

    Mar 21, 2016, 18:11 #86807

    Alsace; terrific post mate, very funny. I tend to think its all foreplay and no end product. Sometimes you have to go straight up the middle or get round the back. Either way we have to stop all this obsession with possession. There is no point holding onto someone if youre not going to follow through. As Helen once said to me 'I like it infrequently' to which I replied is that one word or two ?

  25. Leggo

    Mar 21, 2016, 17:31 #86806

    Red Pig- So true about the lack of intimacy at The Emirates. The lower tier is so shallow it only takes the person in front to raise his eyebrow to necessitate you standing up to see anything at all. What's the point of all that legroom when the view is shocking? And I could have almost forgiven them the lack of a big one-tier end (like the lot up the road will eventually have) if the club had made a serious effort to embrace and encourage traditional fan culture in other ways, but dumping the Red Section by the corner flag as far away from the opposition fans as possible told you all you needed to know about where the club was headed. Why weren't these fans who wanted to create an atmosphere and do what match-going fans are actually supposed to do given pride of place behind the goal? I'd love someone at the club to answer that one.

  26. Alsace

    Mar 21, 2016, 17:22 #86805

    Jeffrey Wright, or simply Jeffrey (shouted and in deprecating tones as if your mother were shouting it). Mr Wenger's Arsenal is NOT like sex without the orgasm. Sex without Orgasm can be very agreeable indeed. Wenger's Arsenal is much more like being in a relationship with a woman who promises that one day, when the time (and indeed the price) is right, you will be admitted into her elegant and sophisticated boudoir where all of your hopes and dreams will be realised. You are admitted into the house, you take tea with the lady concerned. There are even Belgian chocolates and fine wines deployed a la swiss toni, but you never quite make it up the stairs and into the bedroom. This is mainly because although it is normal to have stairs and a bedroom, the lady in question doesn't think it strictly necessary to have them, or has convinced herself that that is the case. When you protest, you are accused of having not worked one day in the (notional) Boudoir. There are tears and hurt resentment. You stalk out and go to the pub. ( Repeat ad nauseam).

  27. goonersol

    Mar 21, 2016, 17:09 #86804

    mbg : Read my views, I agree its time for Wenger to go, change is needed with fresh ideas. So take your AKB rant elsewhere. Im all for change, but I would not like to see the Muppets from the lane above us, so we can say "I told you so, Wenger out"...lets win our last few games, then carry on with the Wenger Out campaign, after all finishing 2,3 or 4th wont change anything on how we feel , just don't want the spuds to finish above us. COYG.

  28. mbg

    Mar 21, 2016, 17:08 #86803

    1971 Gooner, shuuuuuus, don't let the AKB's hear you saying/talking like that, don't you know arsene knows best. But yes indeed there's seems plenty of money to spend, throw away, and waste on carthorses and second raters and their fat contracts, not to mention the biggest waste of all £8,000,000 a season, which with bonuses would no doubt be more like £10,000,000 for an old fraud of a manager, yes there's plenty of money for all that alright. wenger out.

  29. Exeter Gunner

    Mar 21, 2016, 17:07 #86802

    So no balls, stomach or spine if you're not behind Wenger? That's quite a large amount of the body apparently missing. Still, better than having no brain.

  30. anthony walters

    Mar 21, 2016, 17:02 #86801

    mark i like cahill and william both.dont think signing either from chelsea this season realistic however cahill should have been here before chelsea but we insulted bolton with that derisory offer. bard i do believe wenger would spend the money he spent on ozil and sanchez and a couple of years ago spent a fair bit pre season i think he believed in the squad he has.i fancied us this year i thought we had the best squad not necessarily the besy team but with wilshire and welbeck out for so long we ahould have at least got loanees in those positions. some say we haven't scored enough that may be true but i think its defensively we probably lost it if we do.we were a mess at manu scored 1 ,spurs 1 up swansea 1 up .leicester have been winning one nil last few games as chelsea did second half of last season.swansea at home sums up the whole scenario players and manager contriving to toss the season away.playing well one nil up ball goes to ozil he was fouled but lost the ball anyway ramsey was looking to push on in a defensive position got rolled instead of being a yard or so behind the payer didn't bring the player down exactly why he isn't suited to that role .ball gets played behind mertesacker he just ambled after it not enough desire they score.a game i am convinced we would have scored a couple in and we looked like it had we kept it 1 nil for longer.the manager took our scorer campbell off to boos .they score their second.simply put ramsey being played defensive midfield is an accident waiting to happen too many back heels ,wrong decisions on the ball and positional indiscipline the managers culpable for keep playing him there.mertesacker has criticised the forwards for not scoring but concentrate on your job mate. people criticise his lack of pace yet his lack of organisation ,positioning ,desire and focus proved costly v barca, watford ,spurs and swansea whats wrong with winning one nil?leicester are doing it.league ain't over yet that said.

  31. GoonerSambo

    Mar 21, 2016, 16:58 #86800

    Wenger was 100% correct when he said earlier today that he doesn't believe that the disgruntled Arsenal fans have the balls to see us through to the title.He stated that most the fans were behind him yet he questioned the stomach and lack of spine of certain so called fans,which I have to agree with.

  32. Ron

    Mar 21, 2016, 16:11 #86799

    Red Pig - succinct, sharp, neat and oh so very, very sadly true. AFC just isnt a football Club. The new intake of fans post 2006 though have no datum or reference from which to judge the modern Arsenal hence they ll never agree with you.

  33. mbg

    Mar 21, 2016, 15:59 #86798

    goonerSol, get behind the team, right from the AKB wengerite handbook eh, (do you think we don't)you and the rest of the AKB's would just love that, anything to lift the pressure and divert attention from your failed messiah, well not a fooking chance. go now you old fraud.

  34. Augustus Flair

    Mar 21, 2016, 15:56 #86797

    RedPig puts the case perfectly. What profited it Arsenal Football Club when it gained a bowl but lost its soul? The place reminds me of a grim, three-quarters empty Stadio delle Alpi in late 1993 when we ground out a dour 0-0 on a freezing Piedmont night in the old Cup Winners' Cup. Italian police had stolen all us Gooners' cigarette lighters for some reason, so we couldn't even spark up for consolation. Still, that was a Caribbean carnival compared to the passionless vacuum we get at the Emirates now. What a shame!

  35. Red Member

    Mar 21, 2016, 15:46 #86796

    goonersol - ok see what you mean about Spurs. im ok with them finishing above us though as long as they dont win the league. That really is the stuff of nightmares but we will have to hope good old Leicester City help us out with that. Onyourknees - you think you are so clever dont you commenting on another team. well you are not, you are coming across as pathetic.

  36. RedPig

    Mar 21, 2016, 15:26 #86795

    On your knees Post No. 91789 - I think you might find that we left a world class stadium ... and as its replacement we built a generic, soulless monstrosity with no unique features, no distinguishable home end and no intimacy - something which has always been a key feature of English football stadiums. The Emirates is everything that is wrong with modern football. A corporate, plastic multi-purpose arena fit for the corporate customers the club deliberately targetted to replace what they saw as riff raff. Leaving Highbury remains the worst thing the club ever did - closely followed by allowing a leech like Stan Kroenke to become the majority owner. Which is itself closely followed by elevating an arrogant Frenchman to a status his achievements can never justify. This childish hero worship of one man ensured that his ever expanding ego has remained totally out of control and has allowed him to take root at a club he should have left years ago.

  37. mbg

    Mar 21, 2016, 15:05 #86794

    Ozzie, this defending his record is something the old has been has saved as a last resort, and he's in over drive with it, no handbrake there, (a pity he wasn't as goon at being a manager) and so are his AKB wengerites also, their in top gear and just like their messiah conveniently forget about the last eleven years, and you'll not get them to buy into anything else. you couldn't make it up, wenger out.

  38. jeff wright

    Mar 21, 2016, 15:00 #86793

    on your knees , Wenger's 4th place every season and making up the numbers in Europe is like sex with out an orgasm. Champagne football... you're having a laugh surely... it's more like half a bitter and a bottle of light ale.Good old Arsene .

  39. On your knees

    Mar 21, 2016, 14:54 #86792

    Arsenal must have the most massochistic fans in the league. I really dont get it. Waa poor Arsenal making top 4 every season qualifying for the top tier of football season after season! Oh the torture. Would you lot complain if you kept winning the lottery? So boring right?? World class stadium. Champagne football. Season after season. Bonkers. Wenger please stay

  40. mbg

    Mar 21, 2016, 14:39 #86791

    As if TOF would sign (even try to)a real top top qualitee player anyway, especially from the spuds, but wait not even Campbell ? yes indeed things can be spun to suit an agenda alright. You couldn't make it up. wenger out.

  41. mbg

    Mar 21, 2016, 14:22 #86790

    Here was me expecting another circular or rose tinted effort on how we've looked into the whites of they're eyes and told them we want it we're making it ours, to give us a laugh on a depressing Monday. wenger out.

  42. Nick

    Mar 21, 2016, 14:19 #86789

    On your knees, we were NOTHING before Wenger.? Really ? We were the most successful London.club ever the third most successful English team ever, we were legendary all over the world , the first team to.install floodlight the first team to have a train station named after them.the first team to provide 7 internationals for an England line.up, the first team in decades to gp a whole season losing only ONE game in the league, but we were nothing , yeah right and you sir are no gooner but an Arsenite to the core, iys Arsene FC as far as your concerned , yes we were going through a humdrum period a rebuilding period, but to say we were Nothing isn't just wrong its bloody defamatory!!

  43. Ron

    Mar 21, 2016, 14:14 #86788

    Agree that the Man City re build wont be easy. I think Guardiola might have made his first career mistake going there to be honest. So many players who arent up to getting to the place where MC want to be. Perhaps we can sell the Wally to them? PG is supposed to like him. He needs a new challenge and there could be some daft money there for his 'potential' cough, cough!? Leave it too long and he ll be a 8 - 10 Mill man before we know it. Hard to call how Chelsea will re structure. Missing the title this time isnt so bad. If Leics dont win it now, whoever does will be unpopular title winners. Spurs are suited to that, though credit to them, theyve had an excellent season and if they win it, they ll be worthy champs however much we wont like it.

  44. goonersol

    Mar 21, 2016, 14:11 #86787

    Red Member : You make a fair point and I fully agree with you, its just the thought of the Spuds finishing above us that gives me nightmares. If getting rid of Wenger helps the club im 100% behind it, after all its our club not his, but with Kroenke & Gazidis still there, would much change??

  45. Nick

    Mar 21, 2016, 14:07 #86786

    When was the last time that there was no top flight league football over Easter ? I cant remember a time myself, its usually the period that makes or breaks title challenges and gives a clear view of who is going to go down , there are no international qualifying games as far as I'm aware so why the break with tradition? I know Easter gets earlier every year for some strange reason but I can honestly not recall a blank Easter program before, so is the Christians period next to be changed ? International friendlies serve no real purpose at this time of year and are as boring to watch as grass beginning to grow, no doubt we will suffer yet more injuries in pointless fixtures all round the globe !

  46. Red Member

    Mar 21, 2016, 14:01 #86785

    goonersol - yes you are right that we should get behind the team. However the pressure must be kept up on Wenger too. If that has a derimental effect on the team then so be it.What is the point of finishing 4th EVERY SEASON!You could argue that Chelsea and Liverpool by not qualifying for europe next season will be in a stronger position to go for the league. Would Arsenal supporters be questioning Wenger so much if over the last 12 years he had managed 1 title and a few poor seasons? The answer to that is no.In fact we have not even managed a 2nd place finish! We are consistently mediocre. What has 20 years of being in the Champions League got us? Nothing. We have a manager who does not spend the money that qualifying for the Champions League gives us.....yet suggests we all support the team no matter what. He can't expect to have it both ways.

  47. Bard

    Mar 21, 2016, 13:52 #86784

    Anthony w; that maybe true but you can bet they will throw shedloads of money at it. City are hardly going to bring in Pep and not provide him with the tools. Chelsea have never baulked at paying what it takes. As far as I can see the knock on effect will mean we wont be bringing in world class replacements any time soon. I would think Weng's main job will focus on trying to tie down Sanchez and Ozil on longer term contracts. And then tell us we dont need anyone. Have you heard that one before ?

  48. jeff wright

    Mar 21, 2016, 13:24 #86783

    GR, euphoric is probably the wrong choice of word.More like relief actually,but these sort of results against Hull and Everton do tend to be used by some to try and imply that the ones against United,Swansea and Watford are not the real Wenger team ones.The reality is however that they are part of the package and not unusual at all. We saw a few shocking shows during the two EA Cup winning runs over the past two seasons. Wenger got lucky in some games but luck is a transient thing and it runs out eventually for everyone. Wenger will need plenty of luck to win 8 games in a row,last season we saw a similar scenario required to beat City to second place - we failed to do it though -winning 5 out of the 8 and drawing 3 . 18 points from a poss 24. If we repeat that again we would end up with 73 points .I think it will be less than that though we had some easy games last season whereas the ones this time look tougher and we are not scoring goals like we did in that run of 8 games last term when we finished 3rd .

  49. Mark from Aylesbury

    Mar 21, 2016, 13:12 #86782

    Anthony Walters - a further reasoned piece from you, what I would say though is that Willan is the most dynamic player I have seen in the premiership or at least comparable to Sanchez. I cannot understand after all the disruption Chelsea caused us and their stupid gloating why we didn't heavily target Willan and Cahill. Both could have been turned in my opinion but that somes is up plodding at Management / corporate level and we have been plodding since Dein was booted.

  50. goonersol

    Mar 21, 2016, 12:54 #86781

    Red Member : your point makes no sense...all im saying is, lets get behind the team, nothing to do with Wenger in or out. lets give them our support to overcome the spuds, then and only then should we resume the Wenger out campaign. I want Wenger out and a fresh start, but would rather we finish above the spuds first, then we can resume. Are you Red or just a Member??

  51. anthony walters

    Mar 21, 2016, 12:46 #86780

    dw agree its time for change as wenger has taken us as far has he can.depressing 2 fa cups in a row most clubs would be happy with that its more bloody frustrating than depressing in reality.morinou i would have loved a couple of years ago but has he lost his mojo? he sold lakaku left chelsea in a mess no quality young players coming through .he won the league last season but lets not forget he threw the league away the season before with his antics and little horse rubbish keep talking his team down.

  52. On your knees

    Mar 21, 2016, 12:40 #86779

    Wenger is right - Arsenal were nothing without him. Fans complaining is weakening the team FFS! Get off his back you miserable gits. Extend his contract please. I'd honestly make him prime minister he'd be better than Dodgy Dave

  53. DW Thomas

    Mar 21, 2016, 12:34 #86778

    Blaming fans, saying he built the club, all delusional things. The snake oil salesmen convince the easily duped that we were ever going to challenge for the title. Several years ago we beat a strong Chelsea side I think like 3-1, if I remember correctly. We were all saying that was the blueprint for winning the league and beating better teams. We pressed hard that whole game and movement off the ball combined with good defending. Sadly, it was and has so rarely been repeated. More often we get spanked or lose to much weaker, more motivated teams. Sure, the competition is tight, there are many good teams that can win the league. You'd think our boys would have learned by now how to do it. It's not a tournament. It's consistent motivated performances, a desire. We couldn't even beat Hull at home!! Time has already come, long ago for change. Wenger's ego has long been too big to take any real responsibility. Not saying Mourinho would be my choice, but you can't deny he and others win things at their clubs. Big things, in the last 12 years. Think about that. 12 years since the league Invincibles. He hasn't even come close to that magical season. Now think about why. It's mystifying till you remember he rules all at the club and profits takes priority over winning. Bendtner, Almunia, Denilson, Eboue, Walcott, etc. names that are now synonymous with the groundhog seasons of the past 12 years. How depressing.

  54. 1971 Gooner

    Mar 21, 2016, 12:24 #86777

    Really enjoyed the first half performance, a good reminder that we should be talking about the football rather than matters off the field. Elneny is looking a real buy having played a few games now. What I'd like to know is what does the future hold for Theo; for a club like The Arsenal which prides itself on financial prudence, how does it square burning through £140K a week wages for an unused sub?

  55. anthony walters

    Mar 21, 2016, 12:21 #86776

    firstly i dont buy into how strong chelsea and man city will be under new managers next season .their squads have little in the way of athleticism dynamism and pace yes they will invest heavily but buying quality now is harder than ever all english teams in the premier will be awash with cash so buying from them difficult.china has money so too psg bayern real m and barca.our squad are at good ages good young players coming through any mew manager at arsenal or should wenger stay has only to invest in two or three real quality players a centre back and forward at least.rosicky arteta and flamini are out of the door assuming no contract renewals .decisions to be made on ox and walcott .chambers a decision needs to made either goes up the pecking order at centre back or loaned out.stronger game management from players and that starts with the managers team selection and substitutions it's doubtful he can provide that given his record in recent years to win when push comes to shove in the league and champions league.arsenes level of consistency is brilliant he is not an idiot or incompetent the club and the team is in good shape but we could say that the last few years time after time year after year.we should get behind the team until seasons end as anything could happen and any arsenal fan should be enjoying victories.our team is a good one just not quite good enough nor set up well enough and arsene has to take responsibility for that.protests against arsene should wait i feel until we are mathematically out of the title race as far as i am concerned performing in a negative atmosphere isn't helping the team though of course the players and manager have played their part in that with what happened at manu and swansea at home in particular.

  56. Mark from Aylesbury

    Mar 21, 2016, 12:02 #86775

    If Wenger was to pop his clogs tomorrow his last words would be "are they building my statue yet to acclaim my greatness" if the statue had been built I reckon it would be "why did they only build it 10ft high? Surely 50ft and gilded would be more suitable" The man has a mega ego. That's why he won't let go Far Far away fan - you've got me chuckling! Can you imagine. I'd give it a go. The players would be ****ting themselves

  57. Far far away fan

    Mar 21, 2016, 11:57 #86774

    There are rumours circulating that Jose Mourinho has been targeted as a replacement for Wenger. Does anyone have more information? Does this hold water or is it more internet BS?

  58. Nick

    Mar 21, 2016, 11:41 #86773

    Ok I give up, just what does the abbreviation SMH mean ? So its as we were after the weekends results, we are still in a position where only the collapse of the two sides above us will give us a chance and only then if we win every game we have left,we lost this title with appalling showings against mid table to lower half teams five games in which we dropped thirteen points, the reason for that is not bad luck, biased refereeing or divine intervention! The reason is lack of motivation! Motivation a manager is supposed to imbue his side with, in ALL those games the players went through the motions and that is all they did , after ONE performance like that the brown stuff should have hit the fan, players should have been dropped, and stinging reprimands administered, but that is not Wengers way, he instead blames anything and everything but himself and his players, this does not have the effect of making the team want to play harder for their manager this simply shows them he is a soft touch ! There is a time for commiseration and understanding and there is a time to light bloody fires under some players backsides'!! The games I mention were ALL games we would expect to win if we were at our best or even a bit below par, the fact injuries have blighted us yet again is no excuse, a wise man INSURES against bad luck like that a wise man would have looked at our squad and said to himself that it needed strengthening in case of injury and to add competition for places but Wenger is NOT a wise man he is an EGOTISTICAL man ,an ARROGANT man and a STUBBORN man ! He has yet again sacrificed our league season on the altars of HUBRIS and PARSIMONY ! He bears the responsibility for our abject failure to make a better fist of this season , but I'm sure you Arsenites will fete him as a conquering hero when the mythical fourth place " trophy" has been secured, saying ah but if not for injury we could have won the league, our luck was just bad , you really couldn't make this stuff up !!

  59. Moscow Gooner

    Mar 21, 2016, 11:40 #86772

    I love the AW comments yesterday about how 'he built this club over 19 years' etc etc and the fans are so ungrateful etc etc, . I must have dreamt about the likes of Chapman, Whittaker, Mee, Graham.... Arsenal Football Club - complete with plastic wrong-facing cannon - was only called into existence in 1997.

  60. Red Member

    Mar 21, 2016, 11:30 #86771

    goonersol - ah yes I see you have taken Wengers comments on board. Yes you shut up now and support the team until the end of the season like a good little boy.

  61. GoonerRon

    Mar 21, 2016, 11:15 #86770

    @ Jeff - where's the euphoric celebration on here about the win? That's the problem when you are clinically unable to give any credit whatsoever, a single sign of encouragement or positivity looks to you like euphoria. Not every single person in this world assesses each current happening with the backdrop of what's gone on 10 years before.

  62. Ron

    Mar 21, 2016, 11:12 #86769

    Good performance. Evtn fans were very complimentary afterwards too. They missed Barry, kicking all and sundry as he does, but the crowd there is well on Martinez back now. I think the FAC is on their minds too but credit due, AFC played well. Awobi looks a strong lad and skilled with it.Enjoyed seeing him 'live' for the first time. Agree with whoever said Barclay isnt what he s made out to be. A lot of Evertonians agree!

  63. jeff wright

    Mar 21, 2016, 10:58 #86768

    It was only a couple of weeks ago that we saw the same euphoric scenario that we now have with the hard on Akb'S after we beat Championship side Hull ( a really awful team) in a replay due to them getting a 0-0 draw at the Emirates. How Colseyboy and the other AKB's such as poetic plagiarizing Brian Badarse ,lee chicken brain kfc cluck cluck cluck... gloated on here only for everything to promptly go disastrously tits up again. But just like Aunt Sally's on a Fun Fair they pop inanely grinning and gloating dishing out sermons and advice advice to get behind the team this of course really means Arsene with the usual let's wait and see how it ends in May mantra. I doubt myself though that we will have to wait that long .Wenger is walking on a tightrope and one slip will see him exposed again for being the specialist in failure that he in reality is.With no FA Cup to distract from his failure in the league and in Europe (yet again six first round KO stage defeats in a row ) and the no money to compete with the top sides claims blown out the water by Leicester and the spuds - he will now need to crank up the 4th place trophy in an effort to divert attention away from the ever growing numbers of supporters who are disenchanted with his arrogant ways and inept management.He has run out of excuses now and is only one bad result away from personal disaster. There is no where left to hide .Good old Arsene.

  64. Exeter Gunner

    Mar 21, 2016, 10:42 #86767

    Bard - think he's being disingenuous. The 'financial doping' excuse isn't there so he's got to work with what he has. So he'll blame the fans, knowing some are so dim witted they cannot understand cause and effect or the law of consequences, whilst hoping others will be guilt tripped into silence. Look at him trying to put that Spurs game in isolation and pretending the 'sceptical environment' started after that. He's a politician who wants to keep his position of power.

  65. WENGER MUST GO ASAP(MARCUS)

    Mar 21, 2016, 10:02 #86766

    Well, well a result expected as top 4 is in jeopardy you could not make it up!! Wengers comments get more and more ludicrous! The man is way out of touch with the fans and the mood!! He is wondering why fans are questioning him and the team smacks as a man who is plain delusional! What plant does he live on?? He seems oblivious as to why fans are questioning him smh! In his mind he must think he is doing well lool. Well me wenger let me tell you why this season MOST fans have finally realised what a joke of a manager he is!! The main reason being the fact he can't win the league when Leicester City and Tottenham are the main rivals! Even players who always used to defend wenger have come out and said wenger should go if Leicester City or Tottenham win the league like petit, Alan Smith etc! The excuses are over for wenger!! He can't use the oil money excuse anymore. Chelsea, man City and Manu will all change their managers yet our one thinks he deserves to stay smh!! When is he culpable?? ITS OVER MR WENGER

  66. King Jeremy

    Mar 21, 2016, 9:57 #86765

    Well whod'a thunk it! No real chance of winning the league, pressure off, and the Ashburton Globe Trotters turn on the style. Shortly followed by the AKBs lauding their idol. Overjoyed with both the result and the manner of the win, but I'm not buying any more of it. Change needs to happens. It remains unforgivable that in a season when every single one of the "rivals" that one would justifiably name at the start of the season are imploding, we are 11 points behind Leicester City and 6 behind Tottenham Hotspur. Leicester City and Tottenham Hotspur. With his "best ever squad" and £200m in the bank we cannot out-perform Leicester City and Tottenham Hotspur. Realistically, with managerial changes at our rivals to come and accompanied by a willingness to, where necessary, spend over the market rate, this remains the last time we are likely to have any realistic chance at winning the league for a good while. And for the want of honest (and painful if necessary) appraisal of the playing team and investment of the available funds in betterment of the same, we could, and probably would be going at least toe-to-toe with Leicester City. Unforgivable.

  67. goonersol

    Mar 21, 2016, 9:04 #86764

    Good result and performance at Everton, its time to see out the season and get behind the team to help them finish as high as possible ( above the spuds would be a start) Lets put the Wenger Out situation to one side for now, support the team till the end of the season and see where it take us. COYG

  68. Bard

    Mar 21, 2016, 8:55 #86763

    Interesting quote from Weng saying he can fathom why there are protesting fans. Therein lies the source of the problem. How cut off from reality can you be ? He might not agree with them but surely he could understand why. Bu apparently not.

  69. Peter Wain

    Mar 21, 2016, 8:16 #86762

    typical of Arsenal when they appear out of it they show that they can play. Still nee a new manager and 5 or 6 players.

  70. Charlie George Orwell

    Mar 21, 2016, 8:09 #86761

    It was a good performance for sure - but wouldn't it be nice to be saying ANOTHER good performance. 3 good points, however the heat is off and bear in mind we beat a team that are joint 12th in the league. If only Wenger could consistently motivate and adopt a semblance of tactical nous, we'd be looking forward to the double now. Everton's crest bears the motto 'nils satis nisi optimum'(nothing but the best is good enough). I reckon it's not only the toffees who are thinking that sentiment rings a little hollow.

  71. Wear Your Colours

    Mar 21, 2016, 7:57 #86760

    I agree Kev, I thought it was a very good win and a very solid team performance. We just have to focus on accumulating as many points as we can for the remainder of the season. COYG!

  72. Far far away fan

    Mar 21, 2016, 6:49 #86759

    Besides, if Leicester collapse, it will only allow Spurs to win the title. We'd best hope for the Foxes to win the title and rejoice in their fairy tale. Let us not be the sour grapes that bring down the blossoming romance. Lets leave that to the rabble down the road.

  73. Far far away fan

    Mar 21, 2016, 6:21 #86758

    Why do you raise our hopes again? Haven't we suffered enough

  74. Ozzie

    Mar 21, 2016, 3:19 #86757

    "Arsene Wenger defends his record..." How long does this has- been continue to justify his position with long forgotten history? What, Mr Wenger, is your record over the past 10 years? Football is all about success on the field which is reward to the loyal supporters that ARE the club. Field success also equates to financial rewards - BOTH should be achieved. As for the Everton game, the horse has already long bolted. WENGER & KROENKE OUT!

  75. GoonerRon

    Mar 20, 2016, 23:55 #86756

    @ mbg - yet more spin and bull**** from you. On Kane Wenger said “He has top qualities and I think he will make a great career. Once a player is at Spurs you do not even consider him anymore to be on your radar because you do not historically have many transfers from one club to the other.” And you come on here as if Wenger does think he's any good and wouldn't sign him on that basis. You accuse AKB's of being deluded yet you make up this nonsense - if anyone is a fraud, it's you mbg.

  76. anthony walters

    Mar 20, 2016, 23:50 #86755

    people can twist things to suit their own agenda wenger said he ruled out signing kane when asked because historically there was very virtually no big transfers from spurs to arsenal anyone who reads it otherwise has a pea for a brain or just spouting nonsense!

  77. Sambo

    Mar 20, 2016, 23:17 #86754

    Kane is at an advantage playing for the spuds just like Vardy is at Leicester because the opposition think they're sh-ite and play a far more open game than against Arsenal which is why the spuds get a lot of cheap goals on counterattacks and set plays,also the media love pouring praise on the crappy teams when they have a good season.Both those teams will get found out when the heat rises in the last two months.

  78. mbg

    Mar 20, 2016, 23:02 #86753

    Exeter, just watched Kane on motd oh to have a proper striker/player like him, and TOF said he'd never sign him, tells us all we need to know about the old fraud, but what makes him think Kane would want to play under him in the first place, what an old fraud.

  79. mbg

    Mar 20, 2016, 22:29 #86752

    jj, you could be right, Leister and the spuds will fade/implode next week instead, on the good Friday bank holiday or maybe they'll leave it until Easter Sunday (to many Easter eggs)that's a good one for the AKB's to hang on to and be optimistic about, if that fails there's always the week after that, apparently Scully has been seen entering AKB central.

  80. GoonerRon

    Mar 20, 2016, 22:21 #86751

    @ Exeter - yes I am so jealous to be proved wrong, what with Kane scoring loads of goals that have delivered nothing for his club whereas Ramsey and Theo have both scored key goals in winning cup finals. Look, I'm not saying either are better than Kane but just proving that sweeping statements aren't often too accurate.

  81. anthony walters

    Mar 20, 2016, 20:35 #86750

    kc if wenger puts ramsey back in deep midfield position again other than when we are chasing a game ahead of those two then he has lost it completely .chambers should play there before him.

  82. CORNISH GOONER

    Mar 20, 2016, 20:18 #86749

    "I beeleeve in ziz team" said the man from Alsace. But do they believe in you, matey? Don't think so. Reasonable first half but Everton unbelievably awful & I predict Martinez will be sent to the recycling bin by the new owners at the end of the season. Never mind eh - the season is back on track for another 12 months of Groundhog Day. However, John Cross was a leetl bit less positive about Arthur's future than usual on the Sunday Supplement which is worrying!

  83. Alsace

    Mar 20, 2016, 20:15 #86748

    Pleased that Iwobi scored. An obvious and real talent. Distraught that with the pressure now off, the team have decided to play. The only thing that matters is getting rid of Wenger, and that means finishing 5th or worse. Cost Stan 20 million quid ans watch him turn nasty. We live in hope.

  84. KC

    Mar 20, 2016, 20:08 #86747

    Nice report. I believe it was out best away performance of the season, but just adds weight to why Wenger cannot get more of these performances out of the players. I also feel that we look better against teams that do not sit and break on us. This is the issue at the Emirates. Iwobi looks the real deal and looks to play ahead of him which is refreshing. We have been ordinary in so many games this season it does make yesterday's game although great to watch so frustrating as the talent is there, if only Wenger appreciated the importance of the two deep midfield players, they really played well, but I'm sure Ramsey will be straight back into the team when fit.

  85. Exeter Gunner

    Mar 20, 2016, 20:01 #86746

    GR, what Kane has done in his two seasons is what strikers are supposed to do - score lots of goals. 'blimp tongue' - that's very childish, and shows typical AKB jealousy and anger at being proved wrong. You should be getting used to it by now.

  86. mbg

    Mar 20, 2016, 19:27 #86745

    Exeter, yes all the moistening didn't last long. It's not right laughing.

  87. mbg

    Mar 20, 2016, 19:17 #86744

    Leggo, excellent post, indeed all these wengerites now coming round (eventually) to the fact change is required, but implicating Kronke and insisting he has to go too, they just can't bring themselves to say and believe their messiah is the main cause and has failed, no matter how bad, (sad or what) completely forgetting as you say (and very conveniently of course) Kronke wasn't the one who failed to properly strengthen in the proper positions, he doesn't scout the players, buy proper players not cart horses, he doesn't coach them (term used very lightly) prepare them, (again used lightly) train them, give team talks, makes thousands of subs, etc, etc, etc, etc, some of them just can't let go and never will. Sad. go now wenger.

  88. Exeter Gunner

    Mar 20, 2016, 18:54 #86743

    For all that earlier optimism from certain quarters, now all the weekend's results are in Arsenal are even less likely to win the league as Spurs and Leicester have one less game in which to mess it up. However 4th does look more secure, hooray! Very boring and repetitive as someone said, however a timeworn excuse has been exploded and an interesting new truth has been revealed this season that it makes no difference who the other teams up there are, it's not due to them being bigger / richer, Wenger's teams simply cannot handle it.

  89. GoonerRon

    Mar 20, 2016, 18:47 #86742

    @ DW Thomas - what exactly has Kane done for Spuds in his two seasons? Led them to a title? Led them to CL? Led them to a trophy? Err no thought not. Theo and Ramsey rightly have their detractors but they've both scored key goals in cup finals which is more than blimp tongue has done. And for Schneiderlin see Elneny, for Rashford see Iwobi. Stop spaffing yourself over our rivals and chill out.

  90. mbg

    Mar 20, 2016, 18:45 #86741

    You have to laugh at all the AKB's as usual been optimistic and taking heart from a routine win against what is inferior opposition yet again, have they really learned nothing in eleven years of failure ? You really couldn't make it up.

  91. A Cornish Gooner

    Mar 20, 2016, 18:30 #86740

    ak(no)b til i die. In what way?

  92. mbg

    Mar 20, 2016, 18:24 #86739

    So the spuds haven't chipped yet, but we can keep on being optimistic and believing (well some anyway) was that a UFO Fox (Mulder)? pun intended, you couldn't make it up. wenger out.

  93. DW Thomas

    Mar 20, 2016, 18:18 #86738

    Man I win, now City needs to remedy their season to get top 4 for Pep. Kane et all blow away Bournemouth and are hit on the heels of steady Leicester. If it ain't us, you must be rooting for Leicester. What an incredible feat if they win it, and a big blow to old Wengers theory you can't compete with bigger clubs and their bankrolls. Both Leicester and Spurs look like real contenders. Kane is in top form. Compare him to just Walcott. In just two seasons he has done way more for Spurs than Theo ever has for us. Ramsey too. Wenger, sadly, has never been far off from a complete squad. Schneiderlin again today helped United get a clean sheet at City. A huge game for them, with another young player scoring when they need it. Even our veterans are choking now. Giroud, Walcott, and Sanchez. All these guys so full of themselves. Yet, they all have had poor seasons. For Arsene to get so close and fail, especially this year, so many times, is undeniably due to his penny pinching and poor tactics. Each year we gear up, get pumped for the season, only to watch the wheels come off. Who is next out the door? Watched Fab hit a beauty of a free kick vs. West Ham. Payert had one last week. So many times this club has given a big middle finger to us fans and decided to sell us a ham sandwich for caviar prices. We are promised the moon, but get some old cheese. Season after season. Let's be honest. We all know, even if we somehow were to win this year, it would only be because two teams implode. We only have West Ham and City to concern us. Yet, can we avoid losing other points to lesser sides? History says no way!

  94. jjetplane

    Mar 20, 2016, 17:51 #86737

    Do the Totts and Foxes not understand that Arsene FC really want this/it. It's like they hardly notice how Arsene have rolled up to the main party having crashed out earlier. Good old Untold Arsene FC and looking forward to Ranch Monthly .... Anyone notice how hard AKBs are - me neither ...

  95. Ian Ure's Son

    Mar 20, 2016, 17:49 #86736

    Fourth place starting to look as if it's under threat and lo and behold everyone starts performing. Of course, fourth place is the management's most important trophy because it represents maximum return for minimal financial outlay, so OGL really starts to sweat when that is under threat. Bilic in, Wenger out!

  96. Bard

    Mar 20, 2016, 17:45 #86735

    Yesterday feels like too little too late. Where have we been this last 9 games. Its hard not to feel that now the pressure is off we can start playing. Iwobi ooks like he might have ended Theo's career at Arsenal.

  97. Leggo

    Mar 20, 2016, 17:40 #86734

    Nice but transparent attempt by Wenger's disciples at trying to deflect attention away from their deity and towards Wiggy with their chant yesterday. Just 2 questions. Was Kroenke the reason we failed to buy a single outfield player last Summer? And does an £8m a year football manager actually need to be told to win trophies? Answers on a postcard to the soulless bowl N7 please. Big respect again to banner boys though, proper Arsenal fans clearly desperate for the club they love to move forward. Keep up the good work lads.

  98. Hiccup

    Mar 20, 2016, 17:11 #86733

    The main question for me, is now that Spring is here, surely Sanchez and Ozil won't require gloves anymore? Ok, I know the British weather isn't like being in Barbados, but it's hardly like the North Pole out there either. It just seems a shame that when Alexis obviously puts a lot of effort in to get rippling muscles, the black pair of mitts he wears does rather poncify the sterling work he's done in the gym.

  99. jjetplane

    Mar 20, 2016, 16:24 #86732

    Foxes and Totts will fade next week but Arsene FC still want IT! That Kane bloke wot AKBs said was a one goal wonder and not in Olly's league .... hahahahahahahah!

  100. mbg

    Mar 20, 2016, 15:49 #86731

    Well done yet again to the lads with the banner (not children either) and putting it up after another win too, you couldn't buy publicity like that, what a statement. Go now old man.

  101. jjetplane

    Mar 20, 2016, 15:43 #86730

    Sorry - forgot about the Saints and great fun with Koeman taking pee out of Klopp and after unlike with surly, money obsessed Wenger they shake and have a nervous laugh. Thjese two guys will be raring to go next season while Wenger will struggle to unzip for the summer .... Oh when the Saints ..... Who's up next now that Arsene want IT! haha Yaya Gunners .... ps still think Pardew would have done better with Walcott ..... then again ....

  102. Prisoners of Wenga

    Mar 20, 2016, 15:41 #86729

    Now that all those distractions like putting in a proper challenge for the League and the European Cup are out of the way at last, the manager and his likeable team can finally get down to achieving 4th place. Can't see what all the recent fuss has been about.

  103. jjetplane

    Mar 20, 2016, 15:04 #86728

    So how will it end. Leicester, Totties, West Ham, Liverpool, Man City, Man Utd, Arsenal. Like the sound of lucky 7 and then it will give Arsene FC something to be humble about as Stan's wagon/gravy train calls a halt in Montana and says 'we're going home folks'...... Arsene FC to consolidate 10th next season. Not joking here pal! No AKB central after the biggest win since ..... & Leicester!

  104. Torbay gooner

    Mar 20, 2016, 14:47 #86727

    Not many comments on here after this win. Possibly, because most people on here bored to death on the annual race for 3rd/4th place. Will this the team do just enough to secure those placings? Thrilling is n't it! Meanwhile those folk in Leicester are marvelling at the consistency of their team and wondering how many points they need to secure the title. A better performance yesterday against a woeful Everton side but hard to get too thrilled about it, considering the season we have had.

  105. mbg

    Mar 20, 2016, 14:46 #86726

    jw, yes indeed, the chokers will show they're true colours yet again you can be sure of that, funny how that is very conveniently forgotten and not brought into all these AKB equations. You couldn't make it up. wenger out.

  106. mbg

    Mar 20, 2016, 14:20 #86725

    Merses love child, some of his disciples already have.

  107. mbg

    Mar 20, 2016, 14:07 #86724

    Gary, the title was never ever on in the first place mate, but a lot of us knew that. wenger out.

  108. mbg

    Mar 20, 2016, 13:57 #86723

    Funny how they always seem to find they're mojo (for one game anyway)when it's to late, but lets not get carried away and start getting moist(as others do) like some one said yesterday Everton are/were no big shake they were awful, allowing the nice boys to tippy tappy them to death, although there are plenty of times that makes no difference. wenger out.

  109. mbg

    Mar 20, 2016, 13:46 #86722

    Obviously fourth place was in jeopardy and it's not exactly what you'd call pressure, it's just a pity there was nothing else to play for, but i'm sure there are still a few AKB believers (if they've shown up today) even though the last ten years should be telling them and registering something on their brain but maybe not (like they're messiah they'll never learn now) I bet they used to worship Fox Mulder too. wenger out.

  110. DW Thomas

    Mar 20, 2016, 13:36 #86721

    The problems have been obvious. Pampered favorites that Wenger always plays no matter the performance, combined with poor tactics and no so called "spirit". Walcott benched, Ramsey injured. Losing these two and putting Iwobi and Elneney in has been a revelation. If we could get Jack and Santi back and playing healthy, we'd have a solid bench. Ramsey and Walcott are two great examples of Wenger sticking with two key players in key positions that aren't good enough. Just like Almunia and many others of the past. The fight and drive yesterday was magnificent. Look how,happy Wenger was at the first goal. Shame he is so clueless about how to make success a regularity. That is his biggest failure. He has no clue how to be consistent enough, yet he knows that's the key to winning the league. It will take huge luck and a perfect end to win. When's the last time any Arsenal team went on a 9 game unbeaten run???

  111. jjetplane

    Mar 20, 2016, 13:18 #86720

    Ha ha! for some reason Everton are very very poor at home but overall I reckon they will finish above Arsene FC next season. Leicester will have an odd one due to the exertions of this season and the mighty Hammers will get mightier and those Totts will not go away any time soon. Have enjoyed watching Barkley more than most players in the PL and he will be a greater player than let us say Wally - Wenger's absolute creation .... Back to Arsene FC who won an easy game and the likes of the new boys who appear to be fine when it comes to winning an easy one but they will NEVer win a PL and certainly won't be at the Emirates for as long as Theo who will still be there making it a half century between him and Wenger and no PLs or CLs. Enjoy 4th spot - it won't get better lol! Think we can assume Arsene FC 'chastened' themselves before beating Everton er 5-0 I mean 2 ..... Sideways and all over the shop and now Gooner Online is sounding like Arseblog on some good gear I am impatient for my circulat top-up ....

  112. jeff wright

    Mar 20, 2016, 13:16 #86719

    RG, the mathematical differentials with us being 11 points adrift of Leicester and them only having 7 to play make us winning the title very unlikely.So we are in fairy tale land here believing in us doing so. Tbh, this All looks RATHER FAMILIAR to me just the usual excuses to order everyone to get behind Arsene again and forget the awful embarrassing defeats that we have just suffered based on one win against Everton,who after their win in the cup against Chelsea reverted back yesterday to being the lack lustre over passing the ball Martinez plonkers. If it were Chelsea or City instead of Leicester 11 ahead of us with 7 to go Wenger would have conceded the title ,he's done that from similar positions for donkeys years with the top sides having only half the points ahead of us that the Foxes have .He can't do this though because it's Leicester and worse still the spuds who are the two sides fighting it out for the title. Wenger had his chance and blew it again and no amount of spin and old codswallop served up to try and prove otherwise is going to change that.4th place at best for us is my prediction and even that will be close ,with us having to play WHU and City away . Good old Arsene.

  113. GoonerRon

    Mar 20, 2016, 13:00 #86718

    @ Jeff - us winning it is definitely a long shot but IF we can perform like we did yesterday the fixture list shouldn't leave us with any fear. I definitely feel like there will be a few twists and turns yet, little details like us playing in earlier KO's / earlier days than Spuds in the next 6 and Leicester in 5 of the next 6 could help ramp up a bit of pressure (IF we keep winning our games). I agree that our form in title defining games hasn't been great but perhaps the chasing pack keeping us on our toes for top 4 might mean we keep looking over our shoulder and all of sudden we realise we've won it. #thesunisoutandimfeelingoptimistic

  114. jeff wright

    Mar 20, 2016, 12:26 #86717

    Everley,if what you say that is true then it doesn't say much for Wenger 's management .According to him last summer he had the squad to win the league and he did not require any new signings.You couldn't make it up.

  115. Augustus Flair

    Mar 20, 2016, 12:17 #86716

    Job done against an atrocious team (I was working with an Everton fan yesterday and he was calling them a lot worse than that), and we look set for our customary league finish (that is, not top). So, another groundhog season draws to a close with everything on the pitch the same as ever and all of us making the same old comments, pleas, praises, gripes, defences, etc, agreeing with each other here and falling out there. Personally, I would like the terms of the debate to change entirely but though I hate what the AKBs say I would defend to the death their right to say it. On we go, then, no standing on top, destination Fourth Bridge, you'll know the driver though please don't talk to him on the road.

  116. divingrooney

    Mar 20, 2016, 12:08 #86715

    So many rants in disguise of a favourable article. Bravo

  117. Exeter Gunner

    Mar 20, 2016, 12:04 #86714

    It was a good strategic move of Wenger's to mention the chasing pack for top 4 before yesterday's game. We will the focus increasingly move to this as the games tick down, until by the end of the season it will be hailed as a triumph that the threat of West Ham was seen off. As we've seen from Wenger's teams for a decade now, pressure to claim a top 4 spot is something they can cope with, pressure to claim the top spot they cannot.

  118. jeff wright

    Mar 20, 2016, 11:44 #86713

    GR,I think that Leicester will win the league with 2 games to spare.Even if they do collapse we still need the tiny totts to do so as well. Poch thinks though that they are unlikely to catch the Foxes although closer to them than we are. Anyway,the moment we have a chance of winning the title in the unlikely event that this transpires we will choke again .These are the same players who bottled it when the heat was on at United away and at home to Swansea and Watford in the cup and got stuffed 5-1 on agg by Barcelona. We have tough games ahead against sides with things to play for no one is going to do us any favors .Wenger with his claims of being in the title race is just trying to cover up his inept management if we are in the title race then City must be as well if they beat United today .Because mathematically they would have a chance if they win all their games and Leicester and the spuds suffer a massive melt down. As Brian Badarse once observed, fairy tales can come true, if you wish upon a star .Points on the board though tend to be a better option non >? Good old Arsene.

  119. Nick

    Mar 20, 2016, 11:42 #86712

    We have been here before, in fact we've been here again, and again and again adnauseum! Out of everything ee suddenly start to perform, the fact the real pressure of winning important games has gone has everything to do with it, we have thrown the title away with rank bad showings against teams like West Brom, Swansea, Stoke, Southampton and Norwich, THIRTEEN points! Points that would see us two points clear at the top with a game in hand, also seven clear of the scummers, three of those games we held winning positions but threw them away, it's the same story EVERY season for the last ten seasons, the one common denominator is Wenger oh two , injury list's, Wengers refusal or I inability to LEARN from past mistakes however regularly made is damming! Yes yesterdays result was good a win is ALWAYS welcome especially after a barren period, but amongst all the euphoria the same old problems kept resurfacing, we still managed to provide the opposition with hope by not taking advantage of our superior play and punishing them with more goals, we still routinely give away possession from OUR throw ins, We STILL leave opposition players full backs the freedom of the pitch to put in crosses we STILL give the ball away with rank bad passing over short distances, Wenger Still hesitates to use subs even when in Ospinas case he should have been pulled straight away, we as it happened defended well after his injury but it was still a stupid chance to take, Macy must feel super confident now in the managers faith in him, ( why has he not recalled Szerney or Martinez from loan clubs) Still we will now in all probability overhaul the scum and finish second, but that is a massive FAILURE, an avoidable failure too, the reasons for which have been well documented, but no doubt the Arsenites will hail it as a triumph,and fete their deity with praise, in the same way the religious praise god for saving a few lives from an earthquake that killed by thousands, when by their own beliefs that same god CAUSED the quake in the first place !! Yes the Arsenites are as deluded as the religiously lunatics have ever been !

  120. Lee Bedford

    Mar 20, 2016, 11:40 #86711

    Great performance but too late (for the umpteenth year!). Amazing isnt it, how when we start looking over our shoulder and the fabled 4th place trophy becomes under threat, we start to turn it on!!!! This lot make me ill at times!

  121. Jude

    Mar 20, 2016, 11:30 #86710

    What a performance by our midfield, namely Elneny, Coquelin, and Iwobi. The Egyptian is a younger, quicker, metronomic upgrade to Arteta. Both he and Coquelin were disciplined, and did exactly what the team needed. What a breath of fresh air and a welcome change from the massive gaps caused by our Big Time Charlie, who runs around the pitch in search of glory for himself. Iwobi was bright and positive, and took his chance well. It's plainly obvious that the Welshman doesn't fit in this team. When it's not happening for him, it's always his midfield partner's fault or something/someone else is to blame (i.e. Shawcross broke his leg 6 years ago, the manager isn't playing him in his preferred position, etc.). If he does manage to regain fitness for the run in, he shouldn't be anywhere near the team. We need Santi, but have no room for Big Time Charlie.

  122. GoonerRon

    Mar 20, 2016, 11:20 #86709

    Really good performance - the first 45 was our best half for I can't remember how long. Every player was 7.5+/10. It might be too little too late but I don't buy the 'pressure was off' argument - we had just gone out of 2 competitions and this was must win to either keep alive our slim chances of winning it or keeping ahead of the chasing pack to maintain our place in the top 4 - either way it was a vital fixture. I think Everton suffered from what we've been seeing at the Emirates - a crowd who is clearly frustrated and it undoubtedly permeated to their players who completely lacked confidence on the ball (our pressing game contributed to that too). We've had really strong finishes before and wouldn't completely put it past us to win all of our games but to do that we will need fast starts to get early footholds / goals in games to get the home crowd onside. If we were to win all of our games Leicester could win 3, draw 4, lose 0 and we could sneak it on GD. Just saying!

  123. Twenty is Plenty

    Mar 20, 2016, 10:42 #86708

    Arsene: Thanks for the memories, but it's time to say goodbye.

  124. Mark From Aylesbury

    Mar 20, 2016, 10:11 #86707

    Well the tempo of the team has definitely improved with Welbeck and Iwobi and it means it takes some of the pressure from the human dynamo Sanchez. This comes down to one thing the failure to add adequate reinforcements in key positions. Remember the failure to buy a forward and then the Welbeck injury announcement and the frankly bizarre decision to not buy a holding midfield player pre season particularly when we are now playing two holding midfielders. Wenger's indecision and parsimony blew this season. I wonder if his ego ever cracks and he looks in the mirror and realises what cock-ups he continues to make. I would go so far to say that Willan and Cahill particularly Cahill cold have been prized away from Chelsea for starters.

  125. Jed

    Mar 20, 2016, 9:53 #86706

    We should have won the league this season,spurs and Leicester are complete pony yet seem to get favours we don't.Giroud disallowed goal was a joke as was the no pen for Sanchez.

  126. Arseneknewbest

    Mar 20, 2016, 9:45 #86705

    JWE - Jamee what do the "W" and "E" in your latest nom-de-plume stand for? I leave others to answer that cos you've probably forgotten. Out trolling already - shouldn't you be in the pulpit by now? You talk about Arsenal using the first person plural, "We...""our..." etc. But you're fooling no-one. Stick your blue flag where the sun don't shine. Lucky draw for your idols against the hammers yesterday.

  127. Nozzer

    Mar 20, 2016, 9:37 #86704

    Well you could have predicted yesterday. Title out of reach and they put in a good performance away from home. The two proper holding midfielders provided the protection the back four has been crying out for. Danny Welbeck provided pace and menace up front and Iwobi was superb. Apparently is on £750 a week compare that to Giroud who was dire when he came on. We have too many players who are overpaid. I xant imagine any club will pay Theo what we are paying him so we are stuck with him. In relation to Kroenke he will not sell up. He is currently moving the Rams from St Louis to LA and he is getting a load of stick but it doesn't bother him. Significantly the media who are pro Wenger are turning on him. What is irritating is the criticism that the supporters are getting for protests and banners. Arsenal see us as customers, well have they heard of the adage the customer is always right. If Wenger were to announce that he was standing down the remaining games would have a much better atmosphere in the sense that we would get behind him and celebrate his time here as opposed to it being like a messy divorce.

  128. JWE

    Mar 20, 2016, 9:34 #86703

    Can understand the frustration in some when that banner got exposed. How ungrateful can some be? Arsene has given us his best 20 years of his managerial career and has worked tirelessly throughout that period to make us a bigger, financially sound club. Arsenal will go close to winning the title this season and will finish a minimum of second. You just have to look at the last couple of performances and the remaining fixture lists to work that one out. Every other club in the country would be delighted to take Arsene of our hands. Even Pep at City next season will struggle to finish above us as we have a much more solid base to work from in my opinion. We are top of the so called top four this season and if you throw in Klopps Liverpool top of the so called top five. You can't really legislate for a team like Leicester improving so radically which does not normally happen. That is a once in a 25 year random pop up that has hindered us this season. Lay off Arsene as he is our leader and will continue on way past his current contract expiring. I have it on good word that he does not intend retiring for a minimum of five seasons.

  129. Kenny

    Mar 20, 2016, 9:31 #86702

    If Leicester blow up Spurs will win the title simple as that.And we dont want that do we?I wish you were right about Wally but he is Wenger's lovechild and as long as Wenger stays Wally will continue to pick up £140k a week.If it was me i would clear out Wally the Ox Wilshere and Giroud in the summer.On yesterdays game Everton had the cup on their minds(at least they have a trophy to play for) while we had no pressure on us.This season has been a total blown opportunity.But if you dont improve the outfield squad like we didnt last summer what did anyone expect.On Iwobi what happens when Cazorla and Ramsey come back?You know Wenger will pick his pets before the youngster dont you?.At least Kroenke Wenger and Gazidis will be happy with top 4.

  130. Arseneknewbest

    Mar 20, 2016, 9:25 #86701

    A decent win but Everton were well below the level I expected. The Arsenal benefited from playing a team that did not put two rows of destroyers across their penalty area, a la WTF-ord (who looked awful yesterday). Martinez is an aesthete, as opposed to many PL managers who want not to lose at any cost. We should be grateful there are still some of those left in the league cos they generally bring us points in the way we do for Chelsea twice a year. Martinez is a bit of a watered down AW to my mind - certainly not a potential suitor. Moreover, I doubt he'd fit that anorak...In any case this signifies nothing of importance, and should not impede the preparation of Weng's P45,

  131. Merses love child

    Mar 20, 2016, 9:23 #86700

    How long before Mr wenger tells us the emergence of iwobi is "like a new signing" A good reason not to spend in the summer??!!

  132. It's up for grabs now

    Mar 20, 2016, 9:19 #86699

    Predictably once the pressure is off to win the league, we start winning again! How many times have we been here before? At least some supporters are beginning to put up banners telling the club/Wenger we have had enough of this repetitive scenario. Our infamous fourth placed trophy is in touching distance again, so we will be told how unlucky we were due to injuries/refs/oil clubs/non oil clubs that we have X to spend this summer, so just be good nodding dogs and renew your season tickets and groundhog season number eleven can commence in August. An additional trophy will become available in September for all good Gooners to purchase in our store, so pre order now £99.99 - Wengers 20th year in charge! Hail the messiah one and all, for giving us consistent fourth placed and CL failure!

  133. Snowbiggee

    Mar 20, 2016, 9:02 #86698

    Wenger has made a career out of beating weaker sides who give us too much space in midfield. Don't get sucked in now the pressures off. Both sides uniting for Kroenke out is a positive but it's probably futile as he's 5000 miles away.Hitting him in his pocket is the only thing he'll understand.Still think Gazidis may go before Wenger.

  134. Gary

    Mar 20, 2016, 8:57 #86697

    Surprised you have fallen for it Kev. Typical Arsenal once the pressure is off they start playing.It happens every season.The title is over it has been over since Liverpool.Leicester are not bottlers like us.We need a new manager to even dream of ever winning the title again

  135. anthony walters

    Mar 20, 2016, 8:55 #86696

    super performance which shows the frustration of arsenal fans and with arsene wenger.he can still spot a player iwobi coming through bellerins emergence and elneny looks superb past few games .apart from when we are chasing games the only players considered for the deep midfield positions should be yesterdays two elneny coquelin chambers and a fit wilshire.it gives the side balance and allows the attacking players more freedom.it's been so obvious to so many that the team has been inbalanced with too many attacking midfielders.ramsey should only considered on the right or as a more robust alternative to ozil in tough away matches ie west ham.ozil though did plenty of good stuff his habit of ducking out of challenges turning away cost him his injury watch it again he could have moved his foot out of the way had he been looking.too little too late for the title almost certainly .one worry as kevin said with wengers lack of being decisive was leaving a clearly injured ospina on we got away with that had jagielka scored all the previous hard work in the previous two thirds of the match may have been undone.

  136. Mikeymike2711

    Mar 20, 2016, 8:40 #86695

    Yesterday, we were a joy to watch, especially first half. Which has not happened enough this season. I think Leicester have gone, but live in hope them lot will drop points, starting today, against Bournemouth.

  137. Jed

    Mar 20, 2016, 8:38 #86694

    Disrespectful and rather childish the banner at the end,makes us real fans look like spoilt brats.Well done to those who put them in their place afterwards.

  138. Dan P

    Mar 20, 2016, 8:14 #86693

    Sorry but not falling for this one again! We always raise our game when the title has been needlessly thrown away. If it does get close you can be sure we'll turn up half asleep for a crunch game or just fall to bits defensively or AW will bring back one of his favourites and destroy the shape The increased focus is about nailing 4th and whatever contractual payments this releases to Wenger Everton were appalling as well it has to be said, as was Clattenburg

  139. george gunner

    Mar 20, 2016, 8:13 #86692

    Its a bit too late. Wenger says the gunners passed the mental test. Why didnt they do it muchc,much earlier. This win wont placte the fans who still want the fm to leave asap. I agree with the fans on this. Too much time has been wasted unless the fm gives aguarantee he will change his philosophy.

  140. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    Mar 20, 2016, 7:59 #86691

    All the doomsayers on here giving it loud that Everton would be well up for it, they have the game to do us etc. Everton are p**s poor and anyone who thinks Martinez would be doing a good job at AFC had better think twice. As for Ross Barkley, someone tell him that he's not quite up to Pele's standard just yet. We know our great club has it's issues but can we stop bigging up every side we play from now on please. Ta.