#FlashbackFriday – West Ham Away

Part two of a look back at the history of the Gunners’ trips to Upton Park, on the eve of their final visit



#FlashbackFriday – West Ham Away


(Previous flashbacks for West Ham at home can be found here and here, while yesterday’s edition can be found here.

After West Ham dropped into the second tier in 1978, they would spend three seasons outside of the top tier. The Hammers dished out a 5-0 hammering to Newcastle in late March 1979 and finished fifth in the second tier at the end of 1978/79. West Ham would finish seventh in 1979/80, though the Hammers of course secured the FA Cup that season with a 0-1 defeat of Arsenal, a game which also saw a professional foul from Willie Young on a seventeen year old Paul Allen, while the latter was in on goal.

West Ham would secure promotion back to the top flight in 1980/81 through winning the second tier title, as well as meeting Liverpool in the League Cup Final, drawing 1-1 at Wembley, though losing the replay 1-2 at Villa Park. Arsenal’s first fixture back at the Boleyn Ground on West Ham’s return to the top flight saw a debut for seventeen year old Essex-born childhood West Ham fan, Stewart Robson. Goals from Chris Whyte and a John Hollins penalty gave Arsenal a two-goal lead, while Stuart Pearson pulled one back for the Hammers Arsenal took the points with a 2-1 win.

The following season Arsenal would make it back to back away wins at the Boleyn Ground in the penultimate fixture of the 1982/83 season. Goals from Brian McDermott, a Vladimir Petrovic on his way out of Arsenal at the end of the season and another against West Ham for Chris Whyte gave the Gunners a 3-1 victory. Exactly seven months on, Arsenal visited a West Ham side surprisingly in contention for a title in second position, four points behind Liverpool. The Gunners in stark contrast were languishing in fifteenth position after losing four games out of five, as well as exiting the League Cup after an embarrassing home defeat to Walsall. The Hammers would increase Arsenal’s misery by inflicting a 1-3 defeat, while Chris Whyte would be on target against the Hammers again he would also put the ball into his own net.

Goals also from Trevor Brooking in his final season of playing and Geoff Pike gave the Hammers their first home win over the Gunners for eight years. This defeat would lead to Terry Neill’s sacking as Arsenal manager six days later. Ten months on under Don Howe and Arsenal would find themselves in a very different position, being four points clear at the top after five straight wins. Arsenal’s lead however would be halved after another 1-3 defeat at the Boleyn Ground after Tony Cottee, Paul Goddard and Geoff Pike would be on target for the Hammers, meanwhile Ian Allinson would be on the scoresheet for the Gunners. West Ham’s first three seasons back in the top flight would see top half finishes for the Hammers, however in 1984/85 they would slip to finishing just two points off of relegation in sixteenth place.

It’s fair to say therefore that West Ham’s hopes were not particularly high going into the 1985/86 season, however the Hammers managed a 2-2 draw with Liverpool at Upton Park at the end of August. Also, despite an early season goal spree from Frank McAvennie upon his arrival from St. Mirren, a TV black out and dismally low attendances in the wake of Heysel meant that the Scotsman had to appear on Wogan in order to get recognised in the street. During the blackout, Arsenal’s visit to the Boleyn Ground in early October ended in a 0-0 draw. When Football returned to the screens in early January with the FA Cup, West Ham were the first side to appear live against a Charlton side forced to play their home games at Selhurst Park due to the closure of the Valley in September. West Ham won 1-0 with a goal from Tony Cottee.

West Ham’s title hopes were boosted in early February with a 2-1 win over early pacesetters Man United live on ITV’s ‘The Big Match’. The Hammers would also knock Man United out of the FA Cup with a 2-0 win at Old Trafford. There followed a 4-0 thrashing of Chelsea at Stamford Bridge on Easter Saturday, as well as an 8-1 thumping of Newcastle at Upton Park in late April. Five straight wins over eleven days in late April took the Hammers within four points off the top of the table with a game in hand. West Ham went into the last Saturday with a chance of winning the title, though they achieved a 3-2 win over relegated West Brom a victory for Liverpool at Stamford Bridge denied a championship showdown with Everton two days later, which West Ham lost 1-3 meaning a third placed finish.

That 1985/86 season was West Ham’s highest ever League finish, though would be the peak of the Hammers achievements in the 1980s, managing only bottom half finishes until relegation at the close of the decade. In October 1986 the Hammers managed a 5-3 win over Chelsea at Upton Park, as well as a televised 1-0 win over Everton at the start of November. West Ham also had two former Arsenal players added to their squad in 1986/87, with Stewart Robson leaving Highbury in January after a bust up with new manager George Graham and in March Liam Brady returning from Italy after a seven year spell there following his Highbury exit in 1980.

Brady’s first game against Arsenal came in early April just days after Arsenal secured their first trophy since Liam was a part of the side in 1979, winning the 1986/87 League Cup against Liverpool at Wembley. Brady marked the occasion by scoring after a run from the half way line. In the modern era, former legends scoring against old clubs tend to mark the occasion by not celebrating. Here however, Brady actually gets booked by the referee for over celebrating his goal with the West Ham fans. Two goals for Tony Cottee and a Martin Hayes penalty meant that West Ham inflicted a 1-3 defeat on a Gunners side who had not secured a win in the League since early January.

Twelve months later, Arsenal returned to the Boleyn Ground in the League to take all three points with a 1-0 win secured by a goal from Michael Thomas. By the time of the late eighties, West Ham’s aging side were in rapid decline as shown by Arsenal’s 4-1 hammering of the Hammers at the Boleyn Ground with goals from Michael Thomas, David Rocastle and two for Alan Smith. West Ham however were still capable of pulling off a Cup upset and disposed of League Champions Liverpool in the League Cup that season with a 4-1 win at Upton Park and an excellent opening goal for young prospect Paul Ince.

The Hammers drew Arsenal in the third round of the FA Cup in January 1989, which had been a top verses bottom affair with Arsenal leading the old First Division while the Hammers were anchored to the foot of the table. West Ham raced into a two goal lead in the first half with both strikes from Alan Dickens. Two goals from Paul Merson however drew the Gunners level with the match ending in a 2-2 draw. West Ham however won the replay back at Highbury meaning that the Gunners only had the League left to concentrate on, which was duly delivered on the last game the following May. West Ham however dropped down to the second tier after finishing second from bottom.

While in the second tier, Liam Brady scored a superb goal in the final game of his career ahead of retirement against Wolves in May 1990 and mobbed by Hammers fans invading the pitch. In 1990/91 West Ham were going well in the old Second Division as well as the FA Cup. Their Cup run started with Aldershot Town, covered here on BSB Sport with Richard Keys and Martin Tyler just prior to the network’s merger with Rupert Murdoch’s Sky Television and rebranding as Sky Sports. Also, Arsenal’s David O’Leary on punditry duty. The highlight of West Ham’s 1990/91 FA Cup run had been a 2-1 win over Everton in the Quarter Final, however they were to lose to Brian Clough’s Nottingham Forest in the Semi Final.

West Ham’s return to the top flight in 1991/92 would be disappointing fare for the Hammers, who were rock bottom at the time of Arsenal’s visit to the Boleyn Ground in mid-March. The Gunners left with all three points after two goals from Ian Wright secured a 2-0 win for Arsenal. At the time both Arsenal and West Ham were planning to introduce their unpopular bond schemes and both sets of fans carried out a protest in tandem with hundreds of balloons being released above Upton Park during the game, as well as a pitch invasion in protest by a lone Hammers fan. Unlike Arsenal, the West Ham board actually did cave in to fan pressure and cancelled their loathed Bond scheme as less than a thousand were sold.

The Hammers poor form continued, however one bright spot would be a 1-0 defeat of title chasing Man United at Upton Park, which would be the second of three straight defeats during the title run in which would see the Reds lose pole position to Leeds United and Old Trafford’s long wait for a League title extend to twenty six seasons. For West Ham however it would only delay the inevitable, as three days later relegation would be secured after a 0-1 defeat away at Coventry, meaning that the Hammers would miss out on the inaugural season of the Premiership. West Ham’s spell outside of the top tier lasted just one season, coming back up the following term to secure promotion on goal difference with a 2-0 win over Cambridge on the final Saturday of the season.

Arsenal’s first visit to Upton Park during the Premiership era came in late November 1993, which ended in a 0-0 draw with David Seaman sent off for a professional foul on Trevor Morley. By the time of Arsenal’s next visit to the Boleyn Ground in September 1994, as shown by the Sky Sports build up, the Gunners had made one of their worst ever starts to a season, failing to a win a game since the opening match, over a month prior. Arsenal however got back to winning ways with a 2-0 victory with goals from Tony Adams and Ian Wright. This would be Arsenal’s last visit to Upton Park during the George Graham era

The only visit to the Boleyn Ground during Bruce Rioch’s reign as Arsenal boss came seventeen months later, as Arsenal secured a 1-0 win from a goal scored by future Hammer John Hartson. The first meeting of the Wenger era came in late January 1997, with Ray Parlour giving Arsenal the lead after eight minutes. West Ham equalised with an own goal from Arsenal’s Matthew Rose in his fifth and final appearance for the Gunners before moving to join former coach Stewart Houston at QPR. Four minutes later, Arsenal took all three points with a goal from Ian Wright securing a 2-1 win. In Wenger’s first double season, Arsenal would visit the Boleyn Ground on three separate occasions, firstly after being drawn away to West Ham in the Quarter Final of the League Cup.

Goals from Ian Wright and Marc Overmars gave the Gunners a two goal lead. West Ham pulled one back with a goal for Samassi Abou, however the Gunners progressed to the Semi Final with a 2-1 win. The two sides played out a 0-0 draw in the League at the start of March, though a week later were to meet too in the FA Cup Quarter Final. After a 1-1 draw at Highbury, the replay at Upton Park nine days later saw Dennis Bergkamp sent off for retaliation in the first half, though Nicolas Anelka put the Gunners ahead on the stroke of half time. Former Gunner John Hartson pulled one back with six minutes to go in normal time and the scores remained level at the end of extra time, meaning the tie went to penalties. Arsenal’s stand in keeper, the Austrian twenty year old Alex Manninger, would be the hero as the Gunners progressed 4-3 on penalties.

In 1998/99 under Harry Redknapp, West Ham would secure their second highest ever finish in the top tier through coming fifth. They would however suffer a 0-4 hammering to Arsenal at Upton Park in early February with goals from Dennis Bergkamp, Marc Overmars, Nicolas Anelka and Ray Parlour. After twelve games without defeat at the Boleyn Ground for the Gunners, West Ham would finally bag their first win over Arsenal on their home ground in over a dozen years. Two strikes for Paolo Di Canio gave West Ham a two goal lead and though Davor Suker would pull one back, the Hammers would inflict a 1-2 defeat on Arsenal.

There would be a heated finish to the game however as six minutes from time Patrick Vieira would be sent off for a second bookable offence, followed by a fracas with West Ham’s Neil Ruddock where Vieira appeared to spit at ‘Razor’, while the latter was claiming he could ‘smell garlic’ (which tells you a lot about Ruddock’s mentality). Vieira ended up with a six game suspension and a £45,000 fine, though cited xenophobic provocation received from Ruddock throughout the game. Arsenal however would be back to winning ways again at Upton Park twelve months on with a 2-1 win with goals from Robert Pires pouncing on defensive mistake from Trevor Sinclair and an own goal from Rio Ferdinand, while Stuart Pearce would pull one back for the Hammers.

In Wenger’s second double season, just ahead of Christmas 2001 Freddie Kanoute would give West Ham the lead ten minutes before half-time, however three minutes later east-end born Ashley Cole would equalise for a 1-1 draw. By the time of Arsenal’s next visit to Upton Park in August 2002, the side had been unbeaten in domestic football throughout the whole of that calendar year. The Gunners however went two down to the Hammers, with goals from Joe Cole and Freddie Kanoute. Thierry Henry had pulled one back into the second half, though David Seaman prevented Arsenal from falling further behind by saving a penalty from Freddie Kanoute. Arsenal however prevented defeat with Sylvan Wiltord equalising with two minutes to go, with the final score a 2-2 draw.


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  1. Nick

    Apr 10, 2016, 10:51 #87598

    Wenger said after yesterdays bottle job that we have been weak in the air all season ! Well Mr Wenger as our" manager" that is a situation you should have resolved either by internal promotion, coaching or the transfer market, instead you do BUGGER ALL ! Trouble is its not just a weakness in the air its a weakness of mentality ! 2-0 up with many minutes to go to half time and we CAPITULATE TWICE marking poor tracking back non existent, a player who is no where near top draw gets a hat trick when after getting a deserved early yellow he should have been shackled, and ear marked for special treatment to either nullify his one dimensional threat or see leave the field, but that sort of tactical thinking is beneath our glorious leader, this game summed up all that is wrong and lacking with this side , all things a coach worth his salt would rectify! Any impossible dreams of the title are now completely scuppered, all that remains is to try to catch the scum, but surely now the evidence for Wenger to go is now overwhelming, his mistakes in selection and lack of tactical nous in failing to beat a very good but still not top echelon West Ham, were there for all to see yesterday, too many times this season and in the past we have conspired to and been instrumental in our own downfall in plucking defeat or what seems like it from the jaws of certain victory ! This is serial offending with only one common denominator Wenger himself! If he does not go his fading legacy will be in tatters and the end ignominious and sad ! Please go now Wenger while you still have some dignity left and before you irreparably damage this club !!

  2. Smithy

    Apr 10, 2016, 9:16 #87597

    Watched MOTD - we deserved nothing more than a draw - possibly lucky to get that. It will be the same again next season.

  3. Arseneknewbest

    Apr 10, 2016, 9:04 #87596

    Jamee son - you're not singing any more - what a surprise. You're a typical cowardly blowhard who folds the minute he gets it back. "Black cockney accents" - what could that mean you racist buffoon? You won't explain because you're a bottler. People like you give chelsea a bad name cos you are not a gooner. Web editor - drain the swamp and stop this stuff.

  4. Ron

    Apr 10, 2016, 8:45 #87595

    In the Luton end .. wasnt that melt down at Bolton in 2003 and not 2001? If its the one im thinking, i went to that game and it was a 2-2 draw as i recall? Im sure it was 2003. It was the first of Wengers meltdowns as i recall. As for yesterday, what a game. Lousy for Arsenal but their title challenge was shot anyway. Bullied again by a powerful forward of limited ability really, though his heading work on his day in quite some thing. Great to see a team getting behind another and feeding a forward from the bye line like that. Bilic s change of tactics when going 2-0 down was impressive. JJ is right. West Ham in the early stages of the game showed far too much respect to Arsenal. Watching those chronically bad efforts to suppress Carroll was alarming. Arsenal were s--t scared of him. Cant believe some body earlier suggested Mertersacher ought to have been used. The guy is 6 feet 5 but cant jump. Im betting Carroll was disaapointed Merter'r didnt start! Koschielny is a bit of a coward at the best of times but he does at least impede forwards occasionally. The defence was a collective joke and Monreal had perhaps his worst game of the season.

  5. Jamerson

    Apr 10, 2016, 8:33 #87594

    Most of the folk I've seen interviewed who want Wenger out seem like spotty young rogues who think they're hard because they are covered in tatts and speak in black cockney accents,who offer little when asked why they want a change.Those who are pro-Wenger always seem more sober minded and give more thoughtful answers why they want him to stay.If all you have in your locker is abuse for a manager and a board who have taken us forward as a club,better you keep quiet or go support one of these other London clubs you seem so fascinated with.

  6. mbg

    Apr 10, 2016, 1:01 #87593

    In the Luton end, good post, and your right, and his name is hardly dry on his managerial contract, but he's still way way to good for our old past it fraud of a manager, like all the rest he had/has him in his pocket, sad times for our once great club. wenger out now.

  7. Mark from Aylesbury

    Apr 10, 2016, 0:19 #87592

    Jamerson - you seem very upset for a man who claims that he doesn't let results affect him, apparently unlike us who always wobble after a poor result. The thing is we are very consistent we simply do not believe in Wenger and we believe that sooner rather than later he will be consigned to history. I would like to see Kronke go with him but we can't have everything. As I've mentioned before I have successfully diverted a would be pool supporter over to us and am currently indoctrinating my young lad into the ways of Arsenal. Sorry that your dreadful parenting has turned your children against you but there you go. You wallow in the the mire with little moral worth you are a charlatan my friend. Soon Wenger will be gone and I expect you to follow.

  8. In The Luton End When Caesar Fell

    Apr 10, 2016, 0:13 #87591

    Correction - the chucking of points through shabby defending at Bolton was in 2003. 2001 was the year of the Stepanovs Incident in West Manchester, I got my defensive disasters the wrong way round....

  9. In The Luton End When Caesar Fell

    Apr 10, 2016, 0:02 #87590

    Slaven Bilic is an astute tactician, but not yet a master. He's a good but not yet great manager, that much is clear. Still, it only took for him to adapt to the tried and trusted flat back four / knock it long to the big lad plan straight out of the handbook co written by Warnock, Pulis and Allardyce to unravel our team's illusion of a defence. This latest fiasco reminded me of the two goal lead thrown away at the Reebok in the spring of 2001, the difference being that in 2001 the team was in the thick of a real and not imagined title challenge.

  10. Arseneknewbest

    Apr 10, 2016, 0:01 #87589

    Jamee - you're calling me self-righteous? That's a bit ironic considering your weakness for biblical rantings on here (in amidst the casual racism of course). You're the scrotum on this site that's anti-arsenal because of your enduring and embarrassing love affair with the board and weng, you clown. By the way, I do attend games - where's your evidence for suggesting that I don't? You won't have seen me at the bridge though which is where you go of course. Nothing personal Jamee (yeah right!), but don't get annoyed just because you're thick and always wrong - it's not entirely your fault. And what's the opposite of having morals? Being immoral which describes you to a tee. Now get to bed you numpty and prepare for your sermon tomorrow - you must be exhausted after your trip to Swansea today.

  11. Jamerson

    Apr 09, 2016, 23:35 #87588

    Shut up Arseneknewbest you self righteous little twerp,nobody with any sense believes that you or mark the nark are proper gooners anyway always bigging up the opposition plus you're far too sensitive with all these crappy made up morals you have. picking people up for nothing while excusing far worse by your deviant buddies. Lefty worldlings like you never even attend games,why don't you be quiet go get your nails done or get another tattoo of Guevara or Stalin.

  12. Mark from Aylesbury

    Apr 09, 2016, 22:31 #87587

    Well the pantomime is done for another season. Failing to hold onto a 2 nil lead an ultimate sin only worsened by failing to hold onto a 4 nil lead (what imbecile of a manager would let that happen) The freaks need to get honest. Do they value entertainment above everything, do they want to lose in an aesthetically pleasing way rather than win ugly. I think we know the answer to that. Jamnerson I actually felt momentarily upset for you recently when I heard what a lonely experience supporting Arsenal was for you ( your kids having rejected your pastime) . However you also mentioned you could take a bad result well sorry you give it away . Nasty little comments all because your messiah fouls up again. We'll never win anything with this tactically incompetent buffoon. Up the Arsenal, down with Arsene.

  13. mbg

    Apr 09, 2016, 21:26 #87586

    I wonder what they're chanting in AKB central command tonight ? wouldn't it be funny to know ? there again maybe we do. wenger out.

  14. mbg

    Apr 09, 2016, 20:27 #87585

    Remember the last game the hammers played at Highbury ? and the first one they played at the Emirates ? and the tee shirts they had produced ? I wonder what's the betting for something similar again, and another tee shirt, especially if this old past it manager is still in charge (god forbid) odds on i'd say, sad, do the decent thing tonight wenger and resign.

  15. Arseneknewbest

    Apr 09, 2016, 20:11 #87584

    Jamee son - In a week when an England rubgy player faces censure for uttering something similar, your comment about carroll proves two things. First, that you are a racist and should have no place on this site. And second that you're abusing someone who scored three goals against your beloved Arsene. Oooh, how humiliating is it for you and weng to be turned over by someone like that? You are lower than pond life. Web editor - do your job and get this racist idiot banned from this site. It makes us all look bad and suggests that you have no problem with what he writes.

  16. mbg

    Apr 09, 2016, 20:04 #87583

    Roy, your short and sweet post just says it all mate, Andy Carroll, another f*****g donkey, cart horse scores a hat trick against TOF's little nice boy technicians, go now wenger your not fit for purpose and take your bottlers with you. wenger out now.

  17. jeff wright

    Apr 09, 2016, 19:53 #87582

    Any manager with half a clue would shut up shop once ahead but not our Inspector Clueless - he actually likes these sort of school play-ground - let's see who can score the most goals then shindigs! He was just loving it, to paraphrase his biggest fan King Klueless Kev and was well made up when he had replaced every player with any idea of making a tackle with gung-ho have a go Joe types, such as Wally and big Olly. It all made for great TV entertainment with our non-existent defence and midfield opened up time and again like a tin of Sardines with an electric can opener and Keystone Kos and co showing that their fragility on crosses means they will never be top class as long as they have holes in their arses . In the end though a good point won to help Arsene out in the fight for 4th place by helping to keep the Irons out of the fire . City look set now to hoover up 3rd place with us having to play them at Poundlands not the title decider that Amos and co no doubt expected it to be though with us in and United in reality squabbling like two rabid dogs over a bone for the lowly 4th place qualifier tie. Good old Arsene.( yawn)

  18. MBG

    Apr 09, 2016, 19:52 #87581

    Did you see TOF skulking off down the tunnel after the customary hand tap ? Dead man walking. wenger out now.

  19. Hiccup

    Apr 09, 2016, 19:37 #87580

    jj, while it's all very exciting being in this title race, my main concern is that we have taken our eye off those behind us. City are just two points behind, and although 4th is what we all strive for, I think we need to prioritise a 3rd place finish. That gives us straight qualification for the CL group games. Those days when we finished 4th hindered Wenger's transfer objectives as no one wanted to come to us unless we could guarantee CL football,which was a well known AKB directive. Just at look what finishing 3rd did for us last season. This allowed Wenger to sweep up all his targets nice and early. Let's just consolidate 3rd, and who knows, we have an easy run of games coming up and we could be on Leicester's tails. To quote the AKB Tenth Commandment, let's see where we are in May.

  20. Leek fc

    Apr 09, 2016, 19:34 #87579

    Nice post jjetplain. Negative as always. Gooner. My Arse.

  21. Jamerson

    Apr 09, 2016, 19:30 #87578

    This was always going to be a tough one against West Hampty the Stoke of the south,especially after they decided to quit playing football in preference to hoofing balls across to the gypsy horse seller after they'd failed to create a worthwile chance.We should have dealt with it better yet there was also an argument he shouldn't have even been on the pitch after his assault on Kos. Their twelve toed crowd screamed for every decision like they do against the big boys and our own walking tattoo banner boy got his piece of art out at the end which drew a cheer from the junior gunners.

  22. Martyn

    Apr 09, 2016, 18:12 #87577

    Will never understand why the BFG was not brought on at half time to neutralise the threat of Caroll. As written on many occasions its the perceived lack of tactical awareness that Wenger fails on all the time. For forty minutes I thought we played really well but once we allowed the Hammers back in the game there was a palpable lack of belief and I have to say Alexis was shocking. Where has his desire, energy and passion gone?

  23. jjetplane

    Apr 09, 2016, 18:00 #87576

    Believe the Hammers are oversubscribed for reasonable season tickets next year and know a few hard core who are very keen on the move. They will make that place rock whereas Arsenal have never been known for over use of terrace vocals and with an accountant and ranch franchise specialist in charge I can only see the menus becoming more elaborate at the Emirates while the exhibition soccer program (esp) becomes the norm and trophies a vulgar word. Despite anything I am with HICCuP and still think Arsene FC look dangerous with Iwobi who is now seen as the best midfield player in the world and Payet according to Wenger is inconsistent and over the hill. They really are his words as are post match that Carroll should have been sent off for crimes of humiliation against the Art of Arsene. Basically if the hammers had a bit more confidence they would have wiped Arsene FC off the face of the east end. Next season they will. Arsene also added that the result does makes things leeetle difficult but the three year extension only needs pen to and we are good to go for four more years and then Remi Garde will be ready .....

  24. Augustus Flair

    Apr 09, 2016, 17:26 #87575

    Great game for neutrals but an all too typical one for Gooners cue all the predictable but perfectly understandable moaning from the usual suspects. On another note, however, I'll miss the Boleyn Ground as West Ham Utd become the latest club to move into a soulless bowl with no atmosphere and no specific section where the hardcore can gather. Remember the Chicken Run? Their North Bank was a cauldron of noise and passion too on a good day. All gone now, you Irons.

  25. Hiccup

    Apr 09, 2016, 17:12 #87574

    By the way, did anyone else see that BT Sports cameraman positioned behind the goal handing out those 'Wenger out' banners to our fans at full time and then filming them? BT Sport clearly has an agenda against Wenger!

  26. Hiccup

    Apr 09, 2016, 16:55 #87573

    I ain't giving up on the dream just yet. As Amos will tell us when he next posts, ten points behind with 6 to play constitutes a title challenge. By the way, does anyone still have a link to that title predictor site?

  27. Nick

    Apr 09, 2016, 16:51 #87572

    We saw all that was good and all that was bad about Arsenal today, again we threw away a two goal lead after weathering an early West Ham storm., but having rode our luck we were looking good for the points, but then it happened as it has so often under Wenger we rolled over and showed our soft underbelly and were lucky not to get really mauled, before as usual with the stable door open and the horse miles away Wenger decided to take action , we clawed our way back but never looked like getting the win we needed , deja vue.once more, time to go.old man.!

  28. Roy

    Apr 09, 2016, 16:19 #87571

    Andy Carroll hat - trick ?!!? Wenger out now.

  29. mbg

    Apr 09, 2016, 15:54 #87570

    Does this mean we brush ourselves off and go again ? wenger out now.

  30. Barnaby

    Apr 09, 2016, 14:44 #87569

    As the title is gone now,kroenke out and Wenger would follow as soon as you get a new owner

  31. mbg

    Apr 09, 2016, 14:43 #87568

    Well there you are then AKB's (as if any confirmation was needed) it's just as well there has been a conspiracy against West ham with these recent penalties given against them or they'd be in front of us too. Go now wenger.

  32. mbg

    Apr 09, 2016, 12:43 #87567

    Apparently smoking Jack is showing glimpses of class in the reserves (who wouldn't) no not because of his nice new hair cut and parting, hurray we're saved, there's a new signing, until he breaks down and becomes crocked again. You couldn't make it up.wenger out.

  33. west facing cannon

    Apr 08, 2016, 21:34 #87566

    You beat me to it Bunting 14. I was at that game at Upton Park as well in 1983 and that still remains in my memory as one of the most complete performances I've ever seen from a player in an Arsenal shirt ( that horrible green one as well ! ). A lot of Arsenal fans including myself were sad to see Petrovic leave the club as he had undoubted ability but didn't really fit the profile of the English game at the time. The thing I recall most about going to West Ham in those days was the amount of fans that were always ' escorted ' out of the ground by the OB. It always seemed to be a constant flow along the touchline. Always needed your wits about you going there but nobody can deny that West Ham and their fans deserve respect.

  34. Bunting 14

    Apr 08, 2016, 19:54 #87565

    Vladmir Petrovic totally ran that game in 1983. Should have given him another season.

  35. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    Apr 08, 2016, 18:12 #87564

    Ron I hear what you say about the 2001 final but don't forget that Henchoz handball on the goal line - ref/lino spot that and they're down to 10 men and probably 1-0 down with 70 minutes left. Agreed about Owen - always struck me as the typical mercenary footballer - got a move whenever it looked like he'd be in the England squad. Oh how I laughed when in the 2002 4th round he missed an absolute sitter against our 9 men that would have taken the game to a replay. But I'm sure he'd tell you it wasn't his fault. Up the Gunners.

  36. Bard

    Apr 08, 2016, 17:19 #87563

    As usual excellent pieces. Who knows what will happen on Sat. Depends on which Arsenal turn up. Still short of goals unless Alex continues his good form. What it will be is one hell of a fight. I have it down as a 1-1 draw. Razor Ruddock what a plonker.

  37. John F

    Apr 08, 2016, 17:15 #87562

    Great piece again Rob.I remember going to Upton park when a group of Arsenal fans invaded the pitch from the stand.I was in their North bank at the time keeping very quiet and thinking they must be suicidal. West ham do like taking on our ex players and they are now being linked to the ox who could do well there.I always liked John Hartson and thought he was not only good in the air but could play a bit with the ball on the floor and thought at the time it was a mistake to let him go. CGO, any horse with links to Arsenal is bound to finish 4th and I have to agree about Ruddock.I did hear that Vin Diesel turned up on set 24st overweight for the first day of filming once only to be greeted by a raging director "I said you are playing Riddick not Ruddock you dipstick".

  38. Ron

    Apr 08, 2016, 16:51 #87561

    AKB - Ha. Roberts, theres a blast from the past mate. Another donkey but a better class donkey than the razor i reckon. I always detested Clive Allen in Spurs teams. Hear him now and i understand why i did. Shortarsed gobs---e. Owen ... why do BT keep him on? Staggering. His accent is like hearing a razor blade scraped down a blackboard. He was speaking of a wet pitch. It comes out as a 'wat' pitch. Hes BTs worst feature, though their entire coverage is rubbish isnt it. The media love his boy next door image. Im thinking im too much influenced by the FAC Final though in 2001 in fairness, the day he robbed us and Henry showed us the green shoots of his big game bottling propensity.

  39. mbg

    Apr 08, 2016, 16:49 #87560

    Give me sport reckon Arsenal are about to make big changes, and all because of the spuds, and lets hope it's the proper and only change we need as the fantastic picture of a banner being held by fans suggests.

  40. Ron

    Apr 08, 2016, 16:36 #87559

    Roy - yes another one Wengs 'nearly' signed. How many is that? Must be about 50 good ones hes nearly signed. The blokes full of s--t. Barely worth listening to these days. On Hammers, i went there with a Hammers fans mate back in 81 ish when they played Coventry in a League Cup Semi. Talk about fights and spiteful atmosphere. Awful. A fan was stabbed that night. Coventrys 'firm' was always a bit tasty back in the day as i recall and they certainly got stuck in that night. Night games there were always the worst. Ok by day i always found. Ive not been there since 2001/2 ish when Henry pulled us a draw out of the fire. 1 all i think or 2-2. Cant recall.

  41. Arseneknewbest

    Apr 08, 2016, 16:31 #87558

    Ron - Say what you REAL think about ruddock! Ha ha - I greatly enjoyed your "pen picture" of the overrated pseudo-cockney chas and dave lookalike. One of my least favourite players of the era too. Mcmanmanamanamanaman also gets on one's thrupennies but it is nought compared to the former boy blunder Michael Owen who I enjoy hearing on BT about as much as I enjoy reading jamee son's outpourings. Put razorrudd in the same category as graham roberts for me - dirty badger-fondlers the pair of 'em.

  42. Roy

    Apr 08, 2016, 16:27 #87557

    Jamerson, it's a good job you're not into sweeping generalisations, isn't it ? Never had a problem with the 'appy 'Ammers myself, though did feel a bit intimidated as a youngster when I went there. Best memory is Rocky Rocastle taking them to the cleaners one time. Interesting to hear Wenger say that he'd been aware of Payet for "some time". So why didn't he buy him then ? We need to give him the respect he deserves tomorrow, he's a wonderful player. To be fair West Ham have been a breath of fresh air this season, and people would be talking about them even more if it wasn't for Leicesters heroics. And I could certainly think of many worse choices for our next manager than Slaven Bilic. Wenger out.

  43. Jamerson

    Apr 08, 2016, 16:18 #87556

    I saw Razor Ruddock in a programme about bailiffs,his wife seemed like the wife from hell swearing at everybody and looked like a right Jezebel,I must admit I felt sorry for the man.If she was my wife I'd put a scold's bridal on her and make her sleep in the garden till she repented.

  44. Jamerson

    Apr 08, 2016, 15:59 #87555

    Always enjoyed the games against West Hampty Dumpty.Though I could never take to their supporters as they always seem to look the same and have a deviant look about them with their cropped hair,dragon tattoos and what looks like bolts through their necks,every time they talk to you they seemed to drench you in phlegm,something to do with their lazy put on Essex dialect, plus the media has always been in love with them for some reason or other.Still everybody's different and Wenger has won seven out of his last eight visits to Upton Park,so more of the same please.

  45. Ron

    Apr 08, 2016, 14:45 #87554

    CGO - Yes, the 'great' Razor Ruddock. Not! He wouldnt have lasted 5 games when football was a tough game. Saw him on something the other week. You should see the state of the fat toad now. Looks like hes slept under a hedge for 10 yrs while being fed pies 20 times a day. Fat ignorant b-----d. I always see him as the indicator of Liverpool decline. Can you imagine them signing him in the sald days yet he ended up there didnt he. Along with that lazy scally, horrible, pimple faced urchin MacManaman who now talks on BT as if he was a top, hard grafting, committed player. Do they think we all have acute memory loss?

  46. mbg

    Apr 08, 2016, 13:01 #87553

    Peter Wain, yes their rife aren't they ? but i'm afraid there's still a lot of gullible AKB wengerites out there who still haven't learned after all this time.

  47. Charlie George Orwell

    Apr 08, 2016, 12:33 #87552

    Thanks Robert, the usual superb standard. Really enjoy these pieces in our footy history and strolls down memory lane. Willie Young! Remember a bloke who stood near to me in the North Bank (before I became a Clock Ender) always shouting ‘Just get rid, Willie!’ whenever the ball was at his feet. Ruddock – what an overblown div. Hated the bloke. Also: Sorry if you already know, but a horse running in tomorrow’s National is called ‘The Romford Pele’. Got to worth a punt!

  48. Happy Hammer

    Apr 08, 2016, 11:32 #87551

    Robert, well written and an entertaining read..good work fella !!

  49. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    Apr 08, 2016, 11:10 #87550

    Went to the league games in 1987/88 and 88/89 and the FAC game in 1989. One vivid memory was Old Bill threatening to set the dogs on us as we were waiting to get in through those metal detectors they use to have outside at games. Can't say it was my favourite away trip. Nice to see our old mate Alan Pardew doing his annual long winless run schtick again this season.

  50. Peter Wain

    Apr 08, 2016, 9:54 #87549

    nice to see the transfer rumours. Mind you we are in the run up to season ticket renewal time. Just don't expect any players to be signed.