#FlashbackFriday – Crystal Palace at home

Part two of a look back at the history of the Eagles’ visits to Arsenal



#FlashbackFriday – Crystal Palace at home


Previous flashbacks for Palace away can be found here and here, while yesterday’s edition can be found here.

Bert Head fell out of favour with the Palace board for failing to raise the South London side from their perennial position of teetering above the relegation zone. His successor Malcolm Allison however would oversee two relegations on the bounce at Palace, as the South London side (who around this time were re-branded from the Glaziers to their current nickname of the Eagles) finished in twentieth position, that season losing to runaway Second tier champions Middlesbrough 2-3 at Selhurst Park in September 1973.

While in the third tier in 1975/76 however, the Eagles embarked on an FA Cup run and one week ahead of a Fifth Round away trip to Chelsea, their 3-3 draw with Swindon Town in the old Third Division would feature on LWT’s ‘The Big Match’. Palace spent three seasons in the old third tier before achieving promotion under Allison’s successor Terry Venables, in his the first season in his first managerial role with an exciting young team with players such as Vince Hilare, followed here by a Thames Television documentary at the time.

Around this period, Crystal Palace would also develop an enduring rivalry with a side which plays at the other end of the M23 – Brighton and Hove Albion. Two seasons later, Palace would be promoted to the top tier again, enjoying a 3-1 win over their rivals Brighton, as well as a 1-0 win away at Orient on the final Saturday of the season, which the following Friday they pipped rivals Brighton to the Second tier title in 1978/79 by just one point. Palace were unbeaten for their first nine games back in the top flight, the highlight of which had been topping the table at the end of September after three wins on the bounce – a 2-0 home win over Aston Villa, a 2-1 away win at Stoke and an impressive 4-1 home win over Bobby Robson’s Ipswich Town at Selhurst Park.

The run finally ended in early October with a 1-4 defeat to Southampton at the Dell, however Palace were back to winning ways with a 2-0 win over a Manchester City side which had Malcolm Allison back at the helm. In December came a 1-0 win to reigning European Champions Brian Clough’s Nottingham Forest, which meant that Palace went to Anfield in December in third place just three points behind League leaders Liverpool. The Scousers however inflicted a 0-3 defeat on Palace. However by the time of Palace’s first visit to Highbury in seven years, the Eagles had sunk to eighth position. The two sides played out a 1-1 draw, with Liam Brady on the scoresheet for Arsenal. Palace finished their first season back in in the old First Division in thirteenth position.

Crystal Palace had a much less enjoyable season in 1980/81, with Terry Venables leaving Selhurst Park in October with Palace sitting at the foot of the table. West Brom left Selhurst Park that month inflicting a 0-1 defeat on Palace, with Ron Atkinson here building his second career in the media by incredibly summarizing for LWT’s ‘The Big Match’ from the touchline as the game goes on. Palace were still bottom when fifth placed Man United visited Selhurst Park at the start of November. A stunning curl however from future Arsenal signing Peter Nicholas gave Palace a much needed 1-0 win, though by the end of that month, Palace played out a 2-3 defeat with the blue half of Manchester at Selhurst Park.

City had sacked Malcolm Allison earlier on in the season and with the managerial seat vacant at Selhurst Park, Palace moved to install Big Malc as their new boss. His first game ended in Palace’s biggest win of the season, a 4-1 victory over Norwich at Selhurst Park. By Christmas time however, Palace would lose 2-3 away to rivals Brighton and Hove Albion. Palace spent most of 1980/81 at the foot of the table and a 0-1 defeat to Man United away at Old Trafford in early April saw the Eagles relegated to the Second tier with five games left to play, one of which would be a visit to Highbury two weeks later.

On the stroke of half time, Palace took the lead through a goal from former Arsenal midfielder David Price, returning for his first game at Highbury since the Gunners sold him to Palace a month earlier in exchange for Peter Nicholas. The Gunners however equalised through a Brian Talbot goal. A goal from former Chelsea star Tommy Langley put Palace back in the lead again, however goals for Paul Davis and Willie Young gave Arsenal their first win over Palace for eight years. Palace finished the season rock bottom of the table and sixteen points adrift of safety and would spend the next eight seasons outside of the top tier – the first four of which in the bottom half of the old Second Division, with a 3-4 defeat to Wolves in November 1982 caught by the Match of the Day cameras.

Crystal Palace would be managed around the time by their former nemesis at Brighton, Alan Mullery. In a piece for Thames News during the 1983/84 season however on an in form Vince Hilare would be an eye opener for race relations at the time, in which Mullery would actually describe Vince as ‘a lovely lad’ with a ‘nice suntan’ and the Thames reporter asking him if he ‘felt responsible for other blacks’ coming through at the time (words which may not be overly offensive on the face of it, but certainly cringe-inducingly clumsy in their use!). Fortunes for Palace however changed on the appointment of former Man United winger Steve Coppell at the age of just 28 years and 10 months in June 1984.

Coppell had been forced to quit the game just eight months earlier due to a knee injury which kept him out of the 1983 FA Cup Final with Man United. Palace spent four seasons in the top half of the old Second Division with impressive results such as a 3-1 win against Leeds United away at Elland Road in November 1985 and a 6-0 win away at St. Andrews against Birmingham City. Palace came up via the play offs in 1988/89, along the way beating their old rivals Brighton 2-1 at Selhurst Park – a game which includes a cracker from Ian Wright @02.05 and the incredible awarding of five penalties, four which of which were for Palace and three of them missed!

In their first season back in the top flight Palace would face South London rivals Millwall in Late October. Millwall, in their second season in the top flight, actually topped the table a month earlier as they were unbeaten in their first five games, of which they won three. Palace however pulled off a 4-3 win over the Lions at Selhurst Park. Palace’s first visit to Highbury in nine years came on New Years’ Day 1990. The Gunners had lost their previous two games over Christmas away at Southampton on Boxing Day and Aston Villa two days prior. Arsenal however took all three points with a 4-1 win over Palace with goals from Lee Dixon, Tony Adams and two for Alan Smith, while on target for Palace would be the familiar name of Alan Pardew.

Crystal Palace finished five points above relegation in fifteenth position, though on level points with Man United two positions above them who they would meet in that season’s FA Cup Final. Palace would reach as far as the Semi Finals without meeting top tier opposition, beating Portsmouth 2-0 in the third round, Hudddersfield 4-0 in the fourth round, Rochdale 1-0 in the fifth round and 1-0 win away to Cambridge United in the Quarter Finals. Palace would memorably beat Liverpool in the Semi Final, but lose to Man United after a replay for Alex Ferguson’s first major trophy in England. Despite tasting defeat, the experience would hold Palace in good stead the following season.

Palace’s 1990/91 season got off to a flying start with a 2-1 win over Chelsea at Selhurst Park in August. By Christmas, Palace were one point behind an Arsenal side penalised with a two point deduction, after a 2-0 win over Man City with a comedy own goal from Neil Pointon and one for Ian Wright. In the FA Cup, Palace drew Brian Clough’s Nottingham Forest in a tie which went to three games (one of the last to do so before the introduction of penalty shoot outs after the first replay the following season). In the replay at the City Ground, the two sides played out a 2-2 draw with a late equaliser from John Salako from all of forty yards. Palace lost the second replay 0-3 at the City Ground a week later however.

Palace held firm in third place throughout the whole of the second half of the 1990/91 season and in mid-February came within two points of Arsenal in second place, though having played one more game than the Gunners as the Eagles visited Highbury for that season’s fixture. Two weeks earlier, Arsenal lost their first game of the season, though twenty four hours prior to kick off Kenny Dalglish shocked the football world by handing in his resignation with league leaders Liverpool. Arsenal opened the scoring with a rare goal from David O’Leary. An error from Palace’s Eric ‘Ninja’ Young put Paul Merson through, to put Arsenal two up ahead of half time.

Meanwhile, the Highbury electronic scoreboard had been relaying the Liverpool score back from Kennilworth Road against Luton Town as the goals went in. A second half collapse for the manager-less Scousers (who crashed 3-1 to Luton) meant that an Arsenal win would take them top on goal difference. Into the second half, a confident Arsenal side extended their lead further with a brilliant strike from Alan Smith from outside of the area put the Gunners three up. Arsenal’s scoring would be rounded off when Nigel Martyn failed to hold a Nigel Winterburn cross, with Kevin Campbell pouncing on the loose ball to give Arsenal a 4-0 win over Palace and Pole position in the race for the title, which was duly delivered in May.

A good season for Palace however would be marked with a 4-1 win over Everton in the final of the ZDS Cup at Wembley in early April. Palace also sealed third place and a 3-0 win over a Man United side four days ahead of their appearance in the European Cup Winners Cup Final (which they went on to win). Their 1990/91 finish was Palace’s best of all-time, though sadly not enough to qualify for European football, due to the lack of UEFA co-efficient rankings resulting from English football’s post-Heysel ban from European competition, meaning that only runners up Liverpool could play in the UEFA Cup.

1990/91 would also be the zenith of Crystal Palace’s glory years under Steve Coppell, especially after the loss of Ian Wright, who signed for the Gunners in September 1991. Palace’s visit to Highbury in early April 1992 saw Arsenal bag four goals again at home to the Eagles for the third year in a row. Palace however took the lead with a goal from current Wales boss Chris Coleman. Ian Wright however would be playing his first game against Palace since the switch seven months earlier. There would be no goal for Wright, however he laid on Arsenal’s equaliser by Paul Merson. Arsenal took the lead with an excellent chip by Merse later in the first half.

Another superb goal followed soon after, as Kevin Campbell played a one-two with Ian Wright, for Campbell to smash in on a left-footed volley from twenty yards out. Into the second half, Merson scored in front of the North Bank to seal his first hat-trick for Arsenal. A 4-1 win over Palace would stretch Arsenal’s unbeaten run to thirteen games, putting them fourth in the table. Arsenal remained unbeaten for the rest of the season, though were ultimately trophy-less and a fourth place finish didn’t a guarantee the ‘trophy’ of a place in Europe. In 1992/93, Arsenal would meet Crystal Palace in the Semi Final of the League Cup on their dual carriageway to Wembley, carrying a 3-1 lead from the first leg courtesy of two goals for Ian Wright.

The Second leg at Highbury in early March saw goals from Andy Linighan and Ian Wright secure a 2-0 win on the night and a 5-1 win over Palace on aggregate, to meet Sheffield Wednesday in the final at Wembley one month later. Arsenal won the League Cup and were due to meet Sheffield Wednesday again in the FA Cup Final. One week ahead of the final, Arsenal were to meet Crystal Palace on the final Saturday of the inaugural Premiership season. Arsenal couldn’t improve on a mid-table finish in the League, while Crystal Palace were in grave danger of a Premiership exit as they were three points ahead of the drop zone and whose goal difference had only been two goals better than Oldham in twentieth position.

A defeat for Oldham at home to Southampton would have meant that Palace would have been safe regardless. Ian Wright opened the scoring for the Gunners and Palace went in at half time one goal down. Despite this, spontaneous cheers from the Palace away support indicated that events at Oldham’s Boundary Park suggested that the Eagles might be safe. However, in the era prior to mobile phones and the internet, it seems that the Palace fans were in receipt of inaccurate information and at half time it was announced that Oldham were in fact 2-1 up. As it stood however, Palace would still be safe by one goal.


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  1. Joe S.

    Apr 18, 2016, 0:57 #88004

    Well its turning into the perfect season, isn't that right Jameison and Gooner Ron?

  2. mbg

    Apr 17, 2016, 23:39 #88003

    Well there you have it folks TOF said (covering his arse) a day or so ago he didn't care where we finished, I suggested (should have had a bet on it, the house)that would be the AKB wengerites next official line, and low and behold it didn't take long. You couldn't make it up. Do the decent thing wenger and tender your resignation in the morning. wenger out.

  3. mbg

    Apr 17, 2016, 22:59 #88002

    Did you hear the commentators when Leicester went 2-1 down ?( they were saying with glee) real problems for Leicester now etc, etc, etc, as if they'd blown it (no doubt all the AKB's and the wenger moonies were nodding and chanting in agreement) but they showed real mental strength and speeritt exactly what real winners and champions do, unlike the loser of a manager and his players we have. go now wenger.

  4. Ron

    Apr 17, 2016, 22:19 #88001

    Hiccup - evening mate. I can only suggest that youre perhaps not paying enough attention to those paragons of truth and unbiased reason, the Racing Post and the Daily Mail. Those time worn AKB theories you rightly mention as being dismantled though is another matter entirely and simply cant be explained away so simply. I feel a letter coming on to AKB Command calling for the latest official statement on these matters. Im thinking the inevitable seasonal February and onwards, post Euro match fatigue factor is being slowly diluted now by the 'expectation' of the TV riches to come and thus Clubs will envisage greater 'net spends' and therefore new physical impetus and energy will be given to matches by otherwise fatigued players? Its remarkable. Disturbing even. AKB s have been in private conference now for several weeks as you know and im reliably informed that we can expect a new wave of axiomatic truths to be unveiled soon. Certainly before June. There could even be a new intake of hawkish young,hard line AKB disciples to be put forward to us soon as the old guard have declined rapidly. Jamerson is thought to be a mere stalking horse with little prospect of taking the top job since Westlowers decline. Other sources though tell me that the greater need is for a safe pair of hands to be allowed to take temporary control pending the new breed being introduced more slowly. Badarse is believed to be keen on the post, though his health took a severe downturn after his last breakdown but one. The official line with him is that hes in recovery, but some sources say his decline is terminal since the vote of no confidence in him in January. Either way, it seems that we can expect a vastly different AKB fraternity for 2016/17.

  5. Roy

    Apr 17, 2016, 22:19 #88000

    Monty Python Dead Parrot sketch. Replace " parrot " with "football manager", and there you just about have it. Please go now, Arsene.

  6. Trevor

    Apr 17, 2016, 22:09 #87999

    Do not believe what Wenger says about not buying any players. It's all part of his plan. He understands that most of the fans are not on side. So he comes up with this cock n bull of not buying anyone. But mark my words he will buy big to make out that his listening to the people. But it's all a ploy

  7. Hiccup

    Apr 17, 2016, 21:30 #87998

    Ron, glad you're doing ok at the bookies mate. I'm having a disaster. I used the proven theory that English teams playing in Europe don't win in their next league game. Can't believe Liverpool won today! Just doesn't add up. They must have been fatigued and mentally exhausted after Thursday? I did about ten cover bets today which went wrong followed by ten recovery bets that went wrong too. However, Wenger hasn't conceded the title yet, so might get on it. Oh I do miss the daily odds updates. The AKB's did have some uses that are missed.

  8. anthony walters

    Apr 17, 2016, 20:57 #87997

    slow and predictable ,stale performance today.i was in the minority who agreed with keeping ospina in at west ham and he did nothing wrong there he'd been in really good form and though cech is our best keeper no doubt he only should have been brought back in with a couple of reserve games under his belt.ospina got blamed last week without justification and though cech has been great for us this season he was poor v west ham first match of the season against swansea his last game and let a bad one in today.i can't believe arsene made his double substitution defending a corner today something most managers would never do they bloody nearly scored from it as well.ramsey came on within a couple of minutes after one flick gave the ball away with an indulgent backheel.fresh ideas and motivation needed the majority of arsenal fans now want change and i think it will happen as for the first time under wenger some of the players look like they aren't motivated.

  9. Augustus Flair

    Apr 17, 2016, 20:30 #87996

    Now I've come out openly (as it were) as a rabid AW hater, can someone please tell me if "Ron" is for real or an ironic poster having a laugh? Also, I presume everyone saw the Great Pretender putting on an act by seeming to look anguished on the bench at our wretched performance. Not a bad performance for his £8m pa but nowhere near Bafta-winning, you old fraud. Have an ounce of self-respect (surely worth more than money) and resign in time for tomorrow's late newspaper editions.

  10. Arseneknewbest

    Apr 17, 2016, 20:18 #87995

    Ron - Nice one - I'm a sucker for some good old irony. Nevertheless, you should submit that to Anusol Unsold - I bet they'd lap it up. The chihuahua needs to go to battersea dog's home pronto along with that drooling cur stan-k. specialists in failure and p*ssing on lamposts.

  11. Ron

    Apr 17, 2016, 20:08 #87994

    I thought 1-1 was a sound result. Lets get Willy fit and back to being World class then he can properly join Elneney and Coq in there and we ll be properly able to support the fastest back 4 in the league. Walcot is gradually getting mins yet with missing the Euros he will chomping at the bit next season as he reaches his peak. The future is bright. The amount of ankle tapping today by CP was annoying and we werent protected well enough by the ref so our game couldnt flow. Alexis and Mesut were once again our heartbeat. Both absolutely World class. With a fresh squad come August we ll be good to go. Leics have been lucky. Theyve had no Europe. Maureen wont be a force again. Tottenham are fighting beyond their weight. 4 more years for Arsene please. Cmon you rip roaring, title chasing Gunners next season. Some of you cant handle reverses. Those of us whove been going since 1960 know how to properly support the Club in the Arsenal way. Many of you should be careful what you wish for. Im betting on odds of 7-1 next season for us to win the title and will cover it by bets of Leics to go down, Stoke to get european football. It ll be cashing out heaven for me next season. I just wished i didnt have a 150 mile round trip else id wd buy 3 season tickets and a Club level ticket for next season from my winnings. Ive never ever lost a bet and nobody knows the bookies methods quite like me. COYG

  12. Hiccup

    Apr 17, 2016, 20:08 #87993

    A letter of complaint is on its way to Sky! Smudger and Henry on about a post mortem for Arsenal's season? Post mortems are for failed projects, not for investigating a sustained title challenge throughout the year and a 4th placed finish, which has been deemed as success and punching above our weight for the last ten years. Can't just move the goal posts when they feel like it.

  13. James

    Apr 17, 2016, 20:07 #87992

    A great point gained today against a brilliant Palace side who have won ONE league game in 2016 and had their eyes on Wembley next week.Wenger earning his £8m a year.Highlight of the game Wally falling over the ball on the half way line.A move to Norwich awaits

  14. Arseneknewbest

    Apr 17, 2016, 20:02 #87991

    Augustus - welcome back from your short but heartfelt hiatus. I share your pain if that helps and like others I'm glad you're back. Indeed, without the humour and insight from the wise men on here (you know who you are - Jamee not you though my son!), I would have tried to force myself to try and forget about Arsene FC ages ago. I was out working this afternoon and wanted to smash the place up (my own cafe, FFS!) when Palace (...palace, who the f@ck are palace?) equalised. I loathe weng and the toupe'ed twazzer because they are dismantling our club. They are enemies within trying to destroy it while making as much dirty cash as they can. Anyone with a shred of decency would have walked several years but our anorakked chihuahua of doom continues to rub gooners' faces in his own excrement. I hate him and want him gone. There is no dignity left.

  15. Augustus Flair

    Apr 17, 2016, 19:44 #87990

    OK mbg, you've convinced me. I will keep posting and try to accentuate the positive where I see it - like Welbeck's cheeky chip for AS to nod over a giant. But I bet that didn't come from the Old Fraud's "coaching" sessions, and we need a manager who can bring out this latent creativity in our players. Go now, you Great Pretender! You and your American paymaster are an utter disgrace to the club I love!

  16. Jamerson

    Apr 17, 2016, 19:39 #87989

    Unfortunately we all know that most league titles in this country go to the footballing abominations created by Manure,Blackburn,Chelsea and now Leicester the WOB will just have to accept that and stop their constant bellyaching and armchair glory-hunting.Tomorrow sees an even worse exhibition of crass lump ball when stoke take on the spuds,we can only hope for a stoke victory yet in matches like this where it's all about pushing,punting and playacting we all know any result can be the outcome.Not over bothered where we finish now that the titles gone as a lowly finish would at least humble the wob who have been pretty unbearable in their knee-jerking over every non victory this season..

  17. Hiccup

    Apr 17, 2016, 19:34 #87988

    Absolutely gutted. I seriously thought we'd get a glimpse or two of the AKB fraternity on here after the foregone conclusion of smashing the latest pub team to turn up at the Emirates. Bill Oddie will need extra telescopic binoculars to spot an AKB now as they remain underground. This is one weird title challenge as we seem more concerned about the team in 5th place overtaking us? Pretty much just like the last ten seasons where we've been challenging I guess.

  18. AFCasap

    Apr 17, 2016, 19:20 #87987

    predictable result at home yet again for arsene fc ......for the umpteenth time...for so many seasons....the only club that always looks like it will lose/draw, when in the lead...be it 1...2...or 3 nil up. hoping for other teams to do him favours because of his utter shyte wenger way tactics.... let go of your greedy death grip ffs man.

  19. jeff wright

    Apr 17, 2016, 19:19 #87986

    So how are we getting on then with the 15 points that Cech will save us this season >? You couldn't make it up.

  20. mbg

    Apr 17, 2016, 19:18 #87985

    Augustus Flair, whatever you do don't stop posting it's fans like you who we need to keep posting and getting the message across, some might not agree but it's working it really is, this old fraud is a dead man walking it's only a matter of time, AKB's would just love to see fans like you pull the plug and give up, hang in there keep spreading the word. wenger out.

  21. Peter Wain

    Apr 17, 2016, 19:10 #87984

    another in a long line of abysmal home performances. Could we play any slower? 50 passes and we get to half way. A lack of pace in the middles of the field and why can't wenger buy sanchez a left foot. Still at least we have the transfer window to look forward too. Mind you lose on Thursday and it will be the Europa league for us.

  22. mbg

    Apr 17, 2016, 19:07 #87983

    Dan, well said mate, couldn't agree more with you ref wenger, but i'm afraid you've go your trolls mixed up, I don't think there's any of us who wouldn't love to forget about wenger and get back to supporting our club again. wenger out.

  23. Augustus Flair

    Apr 17, 2016, 19:07 #87982

    Sorry, Gooners, in my resignation letter I forgot to mention the thousands of unfilled seats I noticed (as a TV viewer) at the Concrete Bowl today. It's starting to look ominously like those echoing, empty stadia in the NW (Bolton, Blackburn, etc) I see on Sky match reports. The future's by no means assured.

  24. bromley boy

    Apr 17, 2016, 19:01 #87981

    watching Arsenal now is like that relationship you have had with that girl where for a while you couldnt get enough of her she was in your thoughts 24/7 and then it changes you start going through the motions with her you stay with her because you think thats what you should do but deep down all you want is those early days back,

  25. mbg

    Apr 17, 2016, 18:57 #87980

    Well AKB's what do you think of that ? still think we can do it ? still hoping for hope ? (would that be Bob or No ?) well lets be havin ye, or are you safely back in your cave ? wenger out tonight.

  26. Augustus Flair

    Apr 17, 2016, 18:48 #87979

    That's it. After 53-and-a-bit years since my dad first took me to Highbury while he was recuperating from a broken leg playing for the Exiles (N London blokes who married S London girls) on Blackheath, I am giving up the Gooner ghost. Losing or drawing is not a problem (God knows, we've seen enough of them) but today's cynical indifference, witlessness and laziness exhibited by a crowd of foreign mercenaries (A Sanchez apart), the prime culprits being AW and the utterly malign Stanley K, have finally got to me. I'll miss you fellow Gooners, even those with whom I disagree, but enough's enough now and I am going to add my voice to the few hundred fans who support the semi-pro club in the Essex town to which I moved 15 years ago. They're hopeless and hapless, true, but they're honest, and you can get a decent burger and a pint for a fiver, and everyone knows everyone with not a single Gloucestershire farmer's son or daughter to be seen (very prevalent in N5 these days, I believe, super, yah). As a sign-off I will just say for those who may be interested that "Augustus Flair" is a seedy aristocrat mentioned but never appearing in Charles Dickens's superb 'The Great Winglebury Duel' (Penguin mini classics, buy now), and that I can only parrot mbg (who I don't know but who has displayed admirable persistence and courage in his message - Wenger out! RIP the good old Arsenal I sued to know.

  27. Dan

    Apr 17, 2016, 18:38 #87978

    For the sake of the club, Go Now, Wenger. You're last decades man with no oil left in the tank. Please go...and take that obvious, ultimate troll MBG with you.

  28. Nick

    Apr 17, 2016, 18:36 #87977

    Points lost from winning positions , Liverpool, Norwich, West Brom , West Ham, , Swansea, Palace, those are the ones I can see think of forgive me if ive missed any, but there's FIFTEEN points there that we've THROWN away , title contenders? Improved from last season ? Not in any world where logic and reason hold sway!!

  29. mbg

    Apr 17, 2016, 18:30 #87976

    Oh dear some nice trophy's of extinct bearded dwarfs heads for the palace players trophy rooms tonight. Go now wenger your not fit for purpose.

  30. Tony Evans

    Apr 17, 2016, 18:27 #87975

    Entirely predictable - not worth saying anymore.

  31. Mark from Aylesbury

    Apr 17, 2016, 18:17 #87974

    Jambo - as I mentioned the Arsene teddy keeps on flopping over. Expecting a new one 2017

  32. Nick

    Apr 17, 2016, 18:14 #87973

    Well what can you say to me that ? I turned to my mate around the sixty minute mark and said were going to throw this away, then two puzzling substitutions later we had , Elneny and Iwobi were arguably our two best players yet obviously Wenger had already decided they were coming off beforehand as it was with Welbeck, yet again we get caught chasing a game we has won ! Well its all over now even 4th place will be a close run thing, for the umpteenth time this season we throw a lead away ! And Wenger has already sung from his previous hymn sheet regarding summer signings, its difficult, we only want top, top quality, we have talent coming through,he even had the gaul to say the team had IMPROVED this season ! What planet is this bloke on ?? He takes us all for mugs !! No more not for me, that's my last game until the old fraud collects his P45 !! You could literally copy and paste any of these type of comments from him and critique from supporters onto any season from the last twelve years !!, how any can still support the man I dont know !

  33. John Evans

    Apr 17, 2016, 18:14 #87972

    What a pathetic performance from a team that the manager simply fails to get motivated for games time and time again. When will this situation end???

  34. Mark from Aylesbury

    Apr 17, 2016, 16:36 #87971

    Jamerson - I've ordered a new teddie for 2017 as my old one whenever I try and sit it up straight just flops over. It's name is Arsene. When I squeeze its belly where it used to be witty and original it now just puffs out hot air. I'm actually at Southwold today and haven't noticed anyone very obese in a jaunty sailors cap so presume it's your weekend off

  35. mbg

    Apr 17, 2016, 16:08 #87970

    You just imagine how the AKB wengerites were supporting the ammers today, I bet they weren't full off as much luvvvvv when we played them and Carroll made fools of they're messiah and his nice boys. wenger ot now,

  36. jjetplane

    Apr 17, 2016, 15:53 #87969

    Funny how Arsene's so-called invincibles who went out of cups throughout that run when they scratched out results and draws galore playing little attractive football but of course winning the only Invincibles Cup which will apparently never be repeated - how many cups did they go out of in that run? Think Foxes could have coped with a lost and having the Hammers getting close to top 4 is much more fun. Anyway - the title is back on as Green on 5 live says he (dear old Webster) should go and now they are all taking a kick but they need to realise that Arsenal are strengthening in the USA in the form of ranches that hopefully put Ozil shirts on Wal Mart shelfs. Hartson reckons Arsene will spend 150m on little fellas with beards and wedgies so watch out Jack and Aaron. Remember 500 wins in the PL today for Arsene which tells you why he is still the best ....

  37. mbg

    Apr 17, 2016, 15:52 #87968

    Well done Leicester still no sign of a bottle job (like others we know)a valuable point indeed on your way to making history. wenger out.

  38. Jamerson

    Apr 17, 2016, 15:30 #87967

    The amount of diving and cheating and hoofing that goes on in Leicester games is laughable.How folk on here can applaud that garbage is unbelievable,Wenger is probably the only manager in the premiership who refuses to lower himself to that swampy old futball.

  39. CB

    Apr 17, 2016, 15:25 #87966

    Congratulations to the Foxes, a great point, bringing a smile to the faces of all true football supporters

  40. jjetplane

    Apr 17, 2016, 13:29 #87965

    More Untold has Arsene on Carroll's HORROR tackle where he should have been banned for at least 9 months and then there are the currently flightless Eagles who may just bring the biggest bus in the PL to the Wok, soak up the sideways passing for the first half as though they were watching space invaders and then hit the Hampsters on the break in a 3 goal blitz curtest of Untold hate of the day alondside concurrency of GG - Adebayor. That predictor mutated because I am not naturally a pathological paranoiac as some of Untold views today circle around the greater the art of Arsene's little bearded wedgemen the more the refs are inclined to punish them. Really have to stop looking but it really is the full roast for a smirking WOB like myself. Untold will unfurl a banner today and there will be a major celebration when they put the witheringly insolent Palace to the sword - it will be 500 wins in something or another medieval almanac of when balls were flat and dwarfs with beards and wedgies roamed various turf tundra in search of mammoths to baffle with their sideways disc movement. Arsene is Eternal .....

  41. Hiccup

    Apr 17, 2016, 13:24 #87964

    mbg, depending on whether Bilic's fox hunt is a success today, I reckon we could see some AKB's spilling out with their usual mating call of 'we are challenging for the title' before the slaughtering of the eagles starts.

  42. mbg

    Apr 17, 2016, 12:30 #87963

    Hiccup, I reckon those poachers that are making then extinct will be out and about too, one shot and they'll be back into hiding, or heaven for bid the mighty powerhouse of palace have the balls or the cheek to arrive at the escarpment with tactics a plan and all guns blazing and take home some trophies of other strange little creatures with beards for the walls of their games room then the AKB's will certainly become extinct never heard tell off again.

  43. mbg

    Apr 17, 2016, 12:14 #87962

    TOF's little technicians will really raring to go today and show they're class, not to mention they're mental strength and speerritt, and we all know when and why they do that. wenger out now.

  44. jjetplane

    Apr 17, 2016, 11:41 #87961

    Wrong there Jamerson as the many numbered WOB are always excited about the other teams who will be competing for the trophies. Arsene FC have ruled themselves out of such vulgarity and when they try the players end up in a clinic and then a night club while all the other clubs display more admirable smirks than the ones proffered by the ostrich. When is your retirement speech? I think with AKBs so thin on the ground you might stay on as you love the attention. Like you say 'careful what you wish for' ... ps loving the Hibees yesterday - great club great supporters.

  45. Hiccup

    Apr 17, 2016, 11:11 #87960

    There's an interesting documentary tonight on BT Sports of all places? David Attenborough takes a look at the endangered species known as the AKB. This species were once high in number, and have survived several years of potential extinction. They once spawned all over the Arsenal blogosphere, but now low in number, can only be found hiding in the densest forest on the planet at Untold. There are calls to make Untold a National Park to preserve the AKB. Attenborough looks at how they now survive, with rituals of taking it in turns to talk bollocks. Every now and then one of the cubs makes a break for the big wide world and ventures in to the dangerous territory of the ever growing wob clan. These occurrences are very predictable and usually follow when Norwich or other lambs to the slaughter are given a good tonking. Bill Oddie and all other AKBwatchers are gathered today anticipating a glimpse of the AKB as soon as Palace are given a good hiding in one of these end of season Spring solstice kickabouts which have now been running for the last ten years. Just what garbage they will come out with today is anyone's guess.

  46. Jamerson

    Apr 17, 2016, 9:17 #87959

    No new teddies this summer for the wob brethren to get excited about.

  47. jjetplane

    Apr 16, 2016, 23:33 #87958

    So it's all down to Rashford vs Olly. Should be some fight but Olly to go down for the count round three. Still Jack reckons it's good to be back? Massive investigation going on over on Untold Arsene about the 'corruption that is ripe throughout Leicester FC' to say nothing of that Hammers deal where they get a stadium for a Tommy Steele song whereas Arsene Wenger with his own hands and money he had been saving since selling sweets at exorbitant prices during his schooldays and when he sold his VHS collection of lads playing football in bare feet somewhere dusty. Untold also officially refer to Barca as child traffickers which is pure class. Wonder if they would be so bitter if Wenger could actually win something other than 2 silly cups that no AKB gives a toss about. Anyway enough is enough! That site is bonkers!

  48. Alsace

    Apr 16, 2016, 22:36 #87957

    4th place. TSOF must feel comfy. I wonder how 5th will feel.?

  49. Hiccup

    Apr 16, 2016, 21:27 #87956

    This season just gets stranger by the week. Would you Adam & Eve it, but Man City win a league game in the same week after playing in Europe? And at the home of the team with the most ankle tapping fouls... in a calendar year that is. It's just not in the AKB script! Don't ya just miss all that bollocks!

  50. Hamster Wheel

    Apr 16, 2016, 19:14 #87954

    i still thnk we are in grave danger of being overhauled by City and Utd and our beloved 4th is more under threat than ever before. part of me feels we dont actually deserve 4th this time and clearly 60-70% of the fans are also fed up being on this hamster wheel. utd city west ham liverpool let alone spurs have all hit some highs this season - i dont really think we have. 20 mins against manu u and same against bayern at home. i enjoyed olympiakos away as i was there and we were cool and focused but lets face it thats not strong opposition. i think the other clubs mentioned have more reason to be excited about next season. none of us are enjoying the owners that we have and their lack of ambition

  51. jeff wright

    Apr 16, 2016, 16:02 #87952

    Peter,honest or just arrogant >? I go with arrogant. Good old Arsene knows he is under no pressure to win trophies so he just blathers on about believing in his players that he already has , even though they have flopped again on all fronts and about developing the young ones ,such as Iwobi, who are 'coming through'. Albeit Wenger's record on doing this is abysmal to say the least . Wenger couldn't care less what the supporters think or want so he doesn't even bother anymore with the charade of pretending to do so.Surely even the dumbest of the AKB can see that this developing young players is just another excuse by Wenger to claim he doesn't need to sign any new experienced ones . Jack however will be back to get fit for the Euros says Wenger . Well bully for him. I'm off to Benidorm on Monday myself for two weeks and as Messi once noted when doing a bit of tax dodging you can't have too many Euros . No doubt he also likes a trophy or two as well though to go with them. Plenty Euros for Jack but sadly no trophies - not even an FA Cup one this season - so his famous little cry from the victory parade bus top of , What are Tottenham ? Tottenham are sh*t ! Will sadly not be heard .Anyway ,good old Arsene says he himself is not bothered if the spuds finish in front of us he says that it doesn't matter. A real gooner old Arsene eh! What say you lee k fc >? By the way sunbeam you still haven't told us who you tipped to win the league this season. You couldn't make it up.

  52. mbg

    Apr 16, 2016, 14:29 #87951

    Mark from Aylesbury, you can just think of TOF and his little dwarfs laxy daisy attitude, lie back job done party on. wenger out.

  53. Mark from Aylesbury

    Apr 16, 2016, 12:12 #87950

    More Eddie Jones magic - "Buck up or I axe you" This is after the Grandslam. Doesn't like some players attitude, nothing achieved yet, work hard or else. A nice comparable to our Selfie Love Colney Crèche, Wenger Love culture that we suffer with

  54. Peter Wain

    Apr 16, 2016, 11:26 #87949

    see wneger says no new players this summer. At least he is honest whilst the season ticket window is open. Totally stupid but at least honest.

  55. Arseneknewbest

    Apr 16, 2016, 6:08 #87948

    mbg and keef...Or Louis Theroux could do one of his weird weekends with jamee and his dwindling cohort of grim-faced individuals to find out why devotion to a former, 136 year old football manager sits alongside his weakness for right-wing politics and sitting in sweat boxes together for 48 hours. Or third rock/reich from the sun where weng devotee jamee and a small group of fellow aliens share a caravan in suffolk and get up to lots of japes with their reactionary neighbours and carers as they get a one-eyed view of english football. Or "tipping point"...which could be about me and my feelings for a club that meant everything to me in the pre-toupee era of it's once illustrious history. But hey, who am I for I know nothing (and have just consumed a rather large mushroom omelette for my breakfast). As for palace, I'm struggling to care - it has the air of a dead rubber about it.

  56. mbg

    Apr 16, 2016, 1:48 #87947

    Keef petrovic, an episode of through the keyhole with Lloyd Grossman at AKB central command would have been just as entertaining, can you imagine getting a glimpse in some of those rooms ? it doesn't bear thinking about.

  57. Keef Petrovic

    Apr 16, 2016, 1:06 #87945

    They should have done a House episode about AKB’s (if you have never watched House, apologies) : – His vital signs seem normal but he thinks Wenger is a genius! – Could be Lupus? -No! It’s never Lupus, haven’t you worked that out by now you idiot?! This sad loser has Stockholm Syndrome, so psychologically damaged by his imprisonment he identifies with the clueless captor. Normally it is curable with mild psychotherapy, but in Wenger S.S. we should use invasive brain surgery to dig out all the huge lumps of delusion. Proceed immediately. (Epilogue: treatment fails, pathetic patient returns to captor for another 4 years, all sane Arsenal fans top themselves.)

  58. Roy

    Apr 15, 2016, 22:40 #87944

    I went to almost every game 1979/80. The game mentioned, a 1-1 draw, I got chucked in that dreaded cage under the clock end after some trouble - through no fault of my own I may add as a terrified teenager after a scuffle broke out near me - can't recall how I got dragged into it ! Anyway, as you say, Brady scored for us but somone will have to help me out here as the memory is a bit sketchy, but didn't one Kenny Sansom equalise for them ? I stand to be corrected.

  59. Mike

    Apr 15, 2016, 21:34 #87943

    Sorry to be an anorak but we went 1-0 up in the 80-81 game then Price equalised. We did go 2-1 down but Paul Davis got his first ever goal for us then big Willie won it!

  60. John E

    Apr 15, 2016, 19:15 #87942

    When you look at Simeone and Klopp's passion on the sidelines can anyone still believe that we are a club not in dire need of change? It feels like we have been stuck on the same hamster wheel for the past 6-10 years. I am amazed more is not being done in a co-ordinated way by this website and other fan groups right now as the only way change will happen is for the fans to show that enough is enough.

  61. Jimbo

    Apr 15, 2016, 18:39 #87941

    Interesting to compare Ozil and Bergkamp's Arsenal stats at 113 games, the milestone Mesut has just reached Bergkamp 113 games - 112 starts, 1 sub 52 goals (28 home, 24 away) 13 goals outside box 33 assists Ozil 113 games - 109 starts, 4 sub 20 goals (13 home, 7 away) 1 goal outside box 39 assists

  62. Roy

    Apr 15, 2016, 18:31 #87940

    You'd have thought so Mark, wouldn't you ? Sadly that doesn't appear to be the case, and we are probably stuck with it at least until the Kroenke - Wenger alliance is broken. Still, at least we are closer to the end of it than the beginning, and that's the most positive thing I can think of !

  63. Mark from Aylesbury

    Apr 15, 2016, 17:06 #87939

    Away from old Stan for just a minute. You'd think that at least some board members would look at the Klopp result look at Simeone and think that could be us. I mean at least one of em must have some passion

  64. Seven Kings Gooner

    Apr 15, 2016, 15:50 #87937

    I don't think I would have a problem with Arsenal trying to squeeze the last drop out of its fans if the proceeds went on the playing side of the club and it's mission statement was to try to win every trophy it went in for. Sadly we know it is nothing but an exercise in name franchising to the 4 corners of the globe.

  65. Ron

    Apr 15, 2016, 15:37 #87936

    Yes, Dein was the last football oriented executive there without a doubt. The bond was a good old fashioned rip off attempt though. I recall West Ham were trying the same thing at the time? Dredging memory here though?

  66. mbg

    Apr 15, 2016, 15:12 #87935

    Great timing (we'll not hear of any conspiracies here)the mighty Palace will be the latest relegation fodder to come to TOF's and his AKB devotees rescue, and allow themselves to be tickled to death by TOF's little technicians and we'll be up and running again, the AKB's will be back all moist having brushed themselves off and the fourth place trophy will be on. You couldn't make it up. wenger out now.

  67. King Jeremy

    Apr 15, 2016, 14:10 #87933

    Ron, SKG, you can argue that the "commercialisation" of Arsenal started with the Bond, albeit the marketing of them was that they were to raise capital for the North Bank redevelopment. Dein was also the driving force behind the Clock End boxes. But, fact is, "spiv" or not, someone of his ilk (i.e. football focused) has been sorely missed in recent years.

  68. Seven Kings Gooner

    Apr 15, 2016, 11:17 #87929

    Ron : yes, "the bond" first real attempt at "adding value" to the Arsenal product name. The thing with Dein though, he did the deal for signing Dennis which in todays market would be a bit like us signing Lewandowski.

  69. Ron

    Apr 15, 2016, 10:53 #87928

    SKG - Who could ever forget 'the Bond'. The brainchild of the spiv Dein, he of unviversal acclaim! Was the Bond part of the 'Arsenal way' i wonder? Peter - is that urchin truly missed? He needs selling out the way and off the books for the best price, same as the wally.

  70. Peter Wain

    Apr 15, 2016, 10:37 #87927

    Wiltshire still not available. Our medical staff are a joke.

  71. Charlie George Orwell

    Apr 15, 2016, 10:21 #87926

    Sorry, meant to say re Cantona: Has there ever been a similar incident to this committed at the top level in the UK? Always bad grammar been my A Chilli’s Eel.

  72. Seven Kings Gooner

    Apr 15, 2016, 8:57 #87924

    Great piece as usual Robert: the 1-2 defeat by Palace in October 94 was my dear old dad's last visit to Highbury. He just could not manage the walking after some 56 years of seeing most home games. The day was also marred when we tried to get into the Arsenal Museum before the game "Bond holders only I am afraid sir" they told my father. My dad, adopting his full naval stance and staring the job's worth fully in the eye, whilst rocking on the balls of his feet (he always did that when he had a strop on) told him "listen son most of the stuff you have got in there I saw happen with my own eyes and I don't need to see a few programmes either I have got hundreds of them at home" With that he turned and hobbled off with me to his seat, still we did see Wrighty get his 100th goal for Arsenal.

  73. Charlie George Orwell

    Apr 15, 2016, 8:08 #87923

    Brilliant job again Robert - thank you. Remember watching the Cantona incident open mouthed. Has something like this ever happened at the top level in the UK? Clicked on the link to the 90/91 game of M City v Palace. Would you believe it - there were loads of empty seats. Funny that.

  74. John F

    Apr 15, 2016, 7:43 #87921

    Thanks Rob, I always wondered why Palace and Brighton were such rivals given the distance between them.