No show for a case of too little, too late

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No show for a case of too little, too late

"Arsenal, watching EastEnders"?


So the big story was the crowd. At one point there might have been a tube strike on the Piccadilly line, but that was cancelled, leaving the club with no excuses for the fact that approximately 20,000 people who had paid for tickets decided not to bother attending a match which turned out to be far less meaningful than it should have been. It was hardly the 4,554 odd that turned up for the infamous 1966 home game against Leeds that precipitated the sacking of Billy Wright, but it was clear enough that the punters are voting with their feet, albeit too late to vote with their wallets.

For those in the cheaper seats, they had the option of moving to others with a better view, such was the quantity of empty spaces. I moved 18 rows closer to the front of the upper tier to sit with a pal who had a lower tier ticket behind the goal but wanted a better view, so moved upstairs near the halfway line and texted me to join him. There is a general feeling of apathy about the club at the moment, and I am sure that is being reflected in the sales in the club shop. The club have a lot of work to do to turn the current mood around, starting in the summer. One suspects that nothing that happens on the pitch between now and the lap of appreciation after the Villa game will change the general feeling.

Some interesting changes – although maybe up front with the visit to Sunderland at the weekend in mind. Mertesacker replaced Gabriel, Ramsey for Coquelin and Giroud for Welbeck. With West Brom in opposition, the need for Coquelin was negligible. Ramsey was presumably started to provide greater drive the the side’s attacking after the poor display against Palace last weekend.

The game was settled in the first half thanks to two very fine strikes from Alexis, who has played his way back into form. West Brom’s most dangerous chances came from set pieces and they hit the bar with one. But generally, they were uninspired, with keeper Ben Foster even seeming to waste time when his team were behind. The match had a real end of season feeling to proceedings. The visitors were on the beach, although Arsenal at least tried and busied themselves with a high pressing game.

The second half was relatively tedious. Theo Walcott entered the fray as a sub and there were a good few boos. He had a very limited amount of time to make an impact, and he made very limited impact accordingly. In a sense Walcott seems to embody the failure of Arsenal in the last ten years. A lot of promise, but limited delivery. He made his debut at the new stadium, several months after he signed in January 2006, and surely his never being brought off of the bench when the club were still at Highbury must have been due to the club needing to make additional payments to Southampton. Since then he has played a lot of games, scored a number of goals, some of them fantastic, been injured a lot and the only silverware he has enjoyed has been in the FA Cup, much of the time frustrationg the hell out of the fans by ballsing up very promising positions when in a position to do something decisive. Yup, that about sums up Arsenal 2006-2016.

The manager claimed in his post match preference not to know why so many people did not turn up to this game: “I don't know if I am intelligent enough to detect exactly why everybody that did not turn up tonight did not turn up.” Arsene, let me give you a clue. If Arsenal were still in the title race the stadium would have been packed to the rafters. You’ve blown it, again, as you have been doing for the last decade, and people have got bored of it and found better things to do with their time. Just be careful or Thursday evening football might become a little more frequent next season.

I am now on Twitter@KevinWhitcher01.

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  1. Roy

    Apr 24, 2016, 6:39 #88302

    Moscow, do not react to Jamersons posts, he is a wind up. He cannot handled the fact that Wenger has been badly found out this season and that a very large number of fans have now rumbled him as a result. I no longer read his posts, and as quite a few on here would probably tell you, you should do the same.

  2. Mark from Aylesbury

    Apr 23, 2016, 18:48 #88301

    Pistol Pete:- I'd doubt Henry would be a success simply based on precedent but I would take almost anyone other than Wenger simply to break the monotony. We can only assume what he thinks, he may be a complete breath of thresh air . If also Stan got fed up and handed things over to Josh similarly it could be same old crap but alternatively he could be excellent. I'd take change in any form

  3. Pistolpete

    Apr 23, 2016, 18:33 #88300

    Would Henry really be a bad replacement? The man was with us when we played with heart, desire and pace. He's always talking about how a team needs leaders and fighters to compete, and he played under Pep Guardiola for 2 years and played in his 'pressing' game. He seemed to expect a lot of his team mates, certainly more than the current bunch expect of each other. Can't see him being any worse than the current regime. The danger is he could ruin his legacy. I'd prefer Koeman or Simeone tho but doubt he would just be Wengers puppet.

  4. Jaimehijo

    Apr 23, 2016, 16:38 #88299

    I would just like to say how wonderful Mr. Wenger was at batting away the impertinent press oiks attempts to question his wonderful stewardship of our franchise. Oh yes happy birthday ma'am. (tug tug)

  5. Ron

    Apr 23, 2016, 16:36 #88298

    The jabberer Henry 'toeing the line' is no great shock. Hes the next depressing manager there. It ll be a cosy shoehorning in for him and its been on the cards for a year or two now. The Wengs upstairs as his mentor and confident, the same old regressive french flavour of the Club to remain intact. Its such a stick on they may as well announce it now.

  6. Moscow Gooner

    Apr 23, 2016, 15:36 #88297

    Jameson - you sound like a Sour Sid not a Gooner. Leicester - 'football abominations'??!! They've shown the guts and stamina to grind out results when it matters - see our 70/71 and 91/92 sides. They haven't wilted like pansies at the first gleam of Spring sunshine. This current Arsenal side is a disgrace in terms of character and fighting spirit. That said, I absolve many of the players of the blame for this - they reflect the defeatist mentality of their mentality; the true heir to the likes of Petain, Laval and his fellow countrymen from seventy years ago. Maybe under a new coach, the fighting spirit would return. 'We happy few, we band of brothers....' Happy St George's Day.

  7. Jamerson

    Apr 23, 2016, 14:53 #88296

    Changing the manager is a waste of time and has been proven statistically that clubs who do win 25% less than those who stick with a manager,would Chelsea have won any less if they'd have stuck with Mourinho first time round instead of all the expensive manager changes?.If the WOR spent a little more time backing the team instead of digging up the dirt and praising up footballing abominations like Leicester and the spuds and their one season managers we might have won something this year.

  8. Patrick

    Apr 23, 2016, 14:01 #88295

    I think a lot of people are not willing to shout or call vociferously for his head because they don't want to fall out with friends or others who they are near in the ground. It would the divisive element of this situation is tragic and I'll be damned if I fall out with friends over this collection of charlatans

  9. mbg

    Apr 23, 2016, 12:50 #88294

    Rippy, yes did you ever hear anything like it ? as you say if there was something to turn up for they might (like a decent manager who knows what he's doing) but what a bloody cheek, just more disrespect for fans and arrogance of the highest order. wenger out now.

  10. NickF

    Apr 23, 2016, 12:39 #88293

    Clarky, there are plenty of people who want Wenger out, but sadly very few who are actually willing to do something about it.

  11. Part of the WOB

    Apr 23, 2016, 11:54 #88292

    Good victory and a clean sheet! Not surprised so many people didn't turn up but if I wasn't working would have gone (had a ticket North Bank lower) and let Wenger, Gazidis and Kronke know how I felt. All of the above out.

  12. Clarky

    Apr 23, 2016, 11:26 #88291

    What I don't understand is why none of the Arsenal sites or supporters groups arrange a Wenger Out demonstration? What happened to to the Black Scarf movement? I remember they had a relatively small but we'll publised demo against Gazidis. Surely now any well organised demonstration against Wenger, Gazidis, Keonke et al would be extremely well attended and a massive statement to the club? 7

  13. Hi Berry

    Apr 23, 2016, 11:19 #88290

    Yes Mark, but I look upon it as a form of sport! It would seem as if Tony Attwood makes a special point of being particularly pedantic with some of my posts. He recently published an article, the tone of which led the reader to the conclusion that his argument (based on statistics) that changing the manager brings a less than 25% chance of success. When I asked whether that meant we had to stick with Wenger until he was carried out in a coffin he accused me (rather wearily) of making a wild generalisation - as so many dissenters do, apparently. I was rather bemused when a subsequent article regarding the low turnout at the WBA game included a number of wild generalisations to prove his point that it was not a boycott.

  14. Mark from Aylesbury

    Apr 23, 2016, 10:51 #88289

    Hi Berry - yeah actually you're right not a hope. Lol. Surprised they let you publish at all. Some random poster on their was crowing the knockers had disappeared. Well the knockers like me are not even allowed to contribute courtesy of Attwood and pals cencorship.

  15. Rippy

    Apr 23, 2016, 10:17 #88288

    Sorry but wenger and Henry asking fans to turn up regardless of the crap on display. Is really quite insulting. Most of the team hasn't turn up for half the games. So why should we. The clubs greedy owners got its money anyway. Wenger and co really are now just delusional. If a new manager was appointed the place would be full to the rafters. And that's the truth. Seeing Henry toe the line like a good little boy is sickening. He shouldn't get involved. Fans are allowed to vote with their feet. Our football is the worst ever under wenger this season. It's been piss poor to watch. Quality football. How about bolloxs.

  16. Hi Berry

    Apr 23, 2016, 9:14 #88287

    Mark...Having recently tried engaging in a little debate on that site myself I think I can quite categorically state that there is no sign of them reaching the same conclusions that we do. Conspiracy theories - the last refuge of the desperate - are alive and kicking over there.

  17. Mark from Aylesbury

    Apr 23, 2016, 8:44 #88286

    Why We Won't Win The League- Genuine copy and paste from an Untold Contributor We won't win the league this year , for a number of reasons. Injuries, lack of cover, the PGMOL, the inability to be given penalties at the same rate as rivals, lack of clinical finishing, at times, poor defending, rivals with everything, literally everything going for them , including media praise, and covering up of flaws....and sometimes cheating. The critics say Wenger will never win the league again, sadly, it is possible they may be right. But we will be in a position to compete for many years, thanks in no small part to Arsene Wenger. One day, the PGMOL will not get away with what they will do now, we will have a bit of luck with injuries, we will finish and defend better and the rewards will come. wenger might not be the man of that day, but he will have played a huge part in giving us that day. SIC..... Is it just me but in all the insanity do you think the realisation that we will never win the league under Wenger is starting to sink in?

  18. John F

    Apr 23, 2016, 8:30 #88285

    Mark I hope you are right but if you look at his latest comment it might be a long wait.On the atmosphere he said "Very disappointed you want your fans to be enthusiastic. We are not playing to avoid relegation and we want them to be proud of the club and the constant achievement of the club". He does not think he is underachieving and with manager elect Henry also critising the fans despite the fact he left as soon as he realised the clubs ambition it is not looking like an early exit for Wenger.The only crumb of comfort for me is the lack of public statement from the board backing him recently,perhaps they have been reading some of the recent articles in the torygrapth .

  19. Jude J.

    Apr 23, 2016, 2:59 #88284

    DW: Agree with the observations, mate. What is Ramsey's best attribute? He's mastered the backwards and sideways pass, and seems to slide all over the pitch. We were graciously awarded a free kick when he fell over his own feet, resulting in Alexis's second goal. When he wasn't sliding all over the pitch, I noticed quite a bit of strolling about. His gestures and facial expressions towards teammates suggest that they're to blame for his errant passing, poor crosses, and woeful attempts at goal. He's perhaps good enough for a bottom or mid-table side, but he's nowhere near worthy of an Arsenal shirt.

  20. mbg

    Apr 23, 2016, 0:59 #88283

    Vinnie, it's god to see fence sitters like smith finally waking up ( no doubt he'll become a hate figure for the AKB's now, maybe even a petition not to have him on anymore)there's a lot like that, who know his time is up and who want him out but aren't prepared to do anything or say it, or be seen doing it, like booing and chanting but would/will be glad to see the back of him.

  21. Jamerson

    Apr 23, 2016, 0:10 #88281

    Even the WOB hero Adrian Durham was having a dig at them today calling them pathetic supporters for not turning up when needed.He then said Sanchez would be off at the end of the season if the glory hunting fans didn't up their game.Next season I can see another few thousand WOB crying off in a huff which will leave more tickets for the proper fans.

  22. Lee Bedford

    Apr 22, 2016, 23:04 #88280

    Perfectly summed up Kev at the end tbh as reflects my mood and has for quite some years now! Kroenke and Gazidis are the evil that runs through our once great club, onoy in it to get rich and for the $$$! I have been an Arsenal fanatic since I was 7yrs old (Over 30 years!) and a season ticket holder for 20! I have NEVER been SO BORED in all these years of being a gooner, following AFC HOME AND AWAY AND ALL OVER EUROPE, people can call me whatever they like I couldnt be assed no more, I'd given up years ago I think inside, especially when I realised we were spun a load of yarn by all the board about moving from highbury to compete with the best???? crap! it was just so they could all get richer! This team, this club have become SO predictable it barely hurts anymore, this 'manager' is a stubborn old fossil being backed by a bunch of businessmen and etonian 'sirs' who care NOTHING FOR THE PRIDE OR NAME OF ARSENAL FOOTBALL CLUB! They have steadily drained all the passion out of me with the lacklustre pathetic surrendering year after year! I would rather spend my time and money on other things, my family for a start, sad but just so GUTTED how we have turned out and what our once great and proud club have become! RIP AFC.

  23. West Cork Frank

    Apr 22, 2016, 21:53 #88279

    Excellent post Augustus, united we certainly were. How much i miss those times. Kilcrohane.

  24. Hiccup

    Apr 22, 2016, 21:24 #88278

    Corner number 15 turned this season. So from this, we have 40,000 happy clappers content with things as they are. 20,000 other fans will now return to see the season out. As we despatch the relegation fodder and put in a string of good results to the end of season, murmurs of good to go and on the cusp will return. Talk of summer targets will intensify to bolster another title challenge. Those still vociferous about wanting Wenger out will be told by the now returning AKB's that he's staying put so just get behind him as we'll get our wish at the end of next season. Next season we will beat most of the garbage that turns up at the Emirates. There will be the odd blip here and there where 5 seconds of booing will follow at full time. It may even happen two games on the trot at various stages of the season. But not to worry, as there will ususlly be a 5 match unbeaten recovery to follow. This **** doesn't bother me in the least as the paying customers have voted that this is acceptable, and after several seasons of this same merry go round, I can deal with it as one becomes numb to it all. However, for entertainment value, I hope the AKB's return on here asap, because taking the piss out of the bollocks that they talk makes it all worthwhile as groundhog season number 10 to comes to a close.

  25. mbg

    Apr 22, 2016, 20:46 #88277

    Yes did you hear TOF ? I don't know if I am intelligent enough etc, etc, (don't you wenger ? you seem to know everything else or like us to think you do) what a bloody arrogant man. go now you old fraud.

  26. West Cork Frank

    Apr 22, 2016, 20:42 #88276

    Lose all games except tottenham, not bloody s**** .

  27. Augustus Flair

    Apr 22, 2016, 20:34 #88275

    I fear both mbg and West Cork Frank (Clonakilty?) are right. What we had, even in the lean Terry Neill/Don Howe years, and certainly with Gorgeous George, was a united core of fans who showed passion whatever crud was on the pitch. Now we have "supporters" (and good luck to them) who have never known, and never will know, what it was like to be on the North Bank in 1982 when our East End chums threw their smoke bomb, or in the great Ken's Cafe in Green Street (soon to close I'd think when the Hammers move, if it hasn't already) or the walk from Stoke Newington to WHL once you were past Seven Sisters tube on Tottenham High Road. That meant as much to me as the players and the game then, stupid though that is. Sure, it was only football, but in these days of sanitised, seven days a week TV coverage I'm only beginning now, as old age sets in, to appreciate truly what all that was and what I've lost.

  28. Seven Kings Gooner

    Apr 22, 2016, 20:31 #88274

    The club are currently working to a business plan called "managed failure " this is the ability to control the level of team performances to the extent of making the usual seasonal collapses appear outside management's control, thus making the 4th place trophy appear a huge success. It was only supposed to last a few seasons but so gullible have the customers been that the administration has decided to run with it until the flogged dead horse finally expires.

  29. mbg

    Apr 22, 2016, 20:28 #88273

    John F, or another one for the lap of appreciation, Nick Berry's, Every Loser Wins.

  30. mbg

    Apr 22, 2016, 20:15 #88272

    Nozzer, there will be a divide between the supporters now for a long long time, the wengerites are being held as much responsible as TOF himself in a lot of quarters and it could take years to repair if at all, and remember when TOF does piss off (the sooner the better)the wengerites are going to be looking for someone to blame (no change there) a scapegoat for the sacking, getting rid, leaving, retiring, demise of their beloved messiah and the WOR's WOB's will be the perfect scapegoats for them, so expect things to get a hell of a lot worse, (in between our celebrations)and that is what this old fraud will be remembered for, this will be his legacy, dividing the fans and having them at each others throat for years. wenger out now.

  31. Vinnie

    Apr 22, 2016, 19:29 #88271

    ok so if anyone is feeling as demoralised as I am and wants a bit of nostalgia search on youtube for "Highbury Stadium Arsenal 1979" A short video of the old stadium set to some haunting music Bound to stir up some old memories :-)

  32. Augustus Flair

    Apr 22, 2016, 19:04 #88270

    Never mind the half-empty stadium, look at the paucity of comments here. Normally after a game we're jostling to get on with our views but today there's gaps of hours this afternoon. Indifference can destroy a club more quickly than poor results; look at those empty, echoing stadia in the north-west - Bolton and Blackburn spring to mind - where local commitment has evaporated. This website is reminding me of those places today.

  33. Old Man

    Apr 22, 2016, 18:52 #88269

    Jamerson is so obviously a WOB! He is brilliant!He is really keeping the pressure on for Wenger to go as his deluded viewpoint in defence of Arsene Koresh is so clearly delusional as to be parody. So clever. I think he is mbg! Come on stop messing about! Tell us! x

  34. Titi2

    Apr 22, 2016, 18:45 #88268

    Who are these Villa and Arsenal fans who will be going to the last game of the season? Unless 4th place depends on it, the place will have less life than a morgue.

  35. Bard

    Apr 22, 2016, 17:34 #88267

    I went last night and it was all so predictable. I enjoyed the win but it was as you say Kev too little to late. I think the club have a major spin problem at the end of the season. The Weng sounds more and more ridiculous. His comments on the half empty stadium were disingenuous to say the least. Can anyone tell what the point is of putting up the attendance figures when it has nothing to do with attendance and is in fact tickets sold.

  36. Arsene's talking nonsense again

    Apr 22, 2016, 16:45 #88266

    Arsene Wenger, the mam who has done the unthinkable and made the game of football predictable. You know where we will finish in the table. You know when we will go out of Europe. The man who has become a complete parody. Who's inane ramblings make him the laughing stock of football. Who's acolytes, people who had no idea of football before he came along, are some of the whiniest, clueless bunch of sycophants the game has ever seen. One day, soon he will be gone. And his gormless followers will go and support another club. Us proper Arsenal will rejoice. Then we can focus on getting rid of the tank.

  37. John F

    Apr 22, 2016, 16:38 #88265

    The Villa game could be interesting. The Villa fans will not be shy about letting their yank know what they think on their last game in the premiership.If we lose then some of ours could turn on our one.I can't imagine either Villa or Arsenal players looking forward to thanking the fans at the end.If Wenger does lead the players to say goodbye for the season I hope the stadium plays broken stones by Weller at the same time "like a losers reach to slow and short to hit the peaks".

  38. Vinnie

    Apr 22, 2016, 16:37 #88264

    I think the empty seats maybe the only way for Wenger to decide to move on or be replaced as that is going to worry this board / owner much more than not challenging for trophies (4th spot needed of course but that goes without saying ) I thought the pundits summing up was interesting. Both smudger and Redknapp tend to be more diplomatic than the likes of Arsenal haters like Shearer and Hanson but without saying it directly they did seem to be suggesting it is time for Arsene to move on..Smudger summed it up perfectly when he posed the question 'will he be able to create optimism next year after being there for 20 years ? I think that is his way of suggesting he will not be able to...

  39. Augustus Flair

    Apr 22, 2016, 14:25 #88263

    Yes, good to see Alexis Sanchez buzzing with energy again and a bit more accuracy than he enjoyed against Palace. But the point about WBA is well made - they were absolutely hopeless (imagine being one of their fans) and the margin should have been greater than it was. Otherwise, nothing has changed and we will have to get used to seeing the ground only two-thirds full, or even less, if this foolish old man and our indifferent owners are planning on staying. Somewhere at the back of all this is the memory of a great club with a great ground... but it's fading into the distant past now.

  40. Andreas

    Apr 22, 2016, 13:54 #88262

    I would say the best way to protest at Arsenal is simply not turn up. Paying for a ticket and leaving the seat empty is better than not buying as the club will manage to get people in the seats through their propensity of giving tickets away for free to local schools and soldiers. By taking up a ticket and leaving it empty is exactly what Kroenke has done to us. Taken up the majority of shares but left the club "empty".

  41. Red Member

    Apr 22, 2016, 13:52 #88261

    There is I am afraid a growing disconnect between supporters who now attend games and those that do not. The supporters who now attend games are basically happy with what is being offered. The ones who are moaning no longer go. This is not a situation that is going to result in change any time soon. As a red member I yesterday jumped at the chance to get to a game and make my feelings known. Sadly the rest of our fanbase did not also make that effort. 4 more years of Wenger to come...

  42. Alsace

    Apr 22, 2016, 13:47 #88260

    Jamerson, much though we all enjoy your donaldtrumpesque musings, the stadium was barely 65% full last night. Did those people, like you, have elegant cocktail parties to attend or awards dinners, or did they, to quote my cousin's 10 year old "not feel they would gain anything from the game"? Your hero Arsene Wenger, has apparently joined the " Britain better enslaved within the European Union" campaign? This is of course entirely logical as he costs an astronomical amount of money, produces more merde than a French farmer on strike duty and is impossible to get rid of. One of the huge benefits of leaving the EU would be the removal of his automatic right to work in this country. Oh to be the home secretary who had the pleasure of ordering his deportation. Arsenal FC would have to buy in another manager. He could phone in his team and substitutions from abroad I suppose. It would make very little difference. Meanwhile, and away from bating the AKB in chief, players to leave this summer should be Arteta (yawn), Flanimal ( with our love and thanks) Rosicky (with sadness), Walcott ( with the hope that his fortunes will improve with a proper coach), Jack (ditto but to a proper medical team), Ozil (because he won't put up with the manager's nonsense)Gibbo (because he's going nowhere with Wenger), Ramsey (Ditto), BFG (because he's past it). That's more work than the AFC transfer team can possibly get through especially with monsieur at the Euro's, but it all needs to be done and replacements secured. Why can't we pay a proper manager to come in and get that business done ? Because Jamerson and his ilk thinks that 4th place is acceptable for Arsenal. Herbert Chapman, Tom Whittaker, Ted Drake, George Allison and George Graham didn't and don't agree with you. That's the acid test and your hero fails it.

  43. Nozzer

    Apr 22, 2016, 13:40 #88259

    Watched sky sports when I got in and Alan Smith's account and assessment was spot on. In terms of Wenger I am in the Wenger Out camp. He needs to go pure and simple. It's not healthy this divide amongst supporters. We need a manager who not only will organise the team defensively but one who can unite us. The knock on effect will be a positive atmosphere at the Emirates which will transmit to the pitch as opposed to the apathy that exists at the moment. There is one man step forward Diego Simeone

  44. mbg

    Apr 22, 2016, 13:37 #88258

    Nick, good post, at least it shows he, and all the other AKB clowns know and realise there has been booing before and why, he's not fit for purpose and want him replaced, so nothings going to take the pressure of TOF now, we want wenger out.

  45. Exeter Gunner

    Apr 22, 2016, 13:30 #88256

    Wenger is driving a car along a road. Suddenly he veers off and crashes. PASSENGER Arsene, you've crashed the car! WENGER No, I don't believe that. We have a good engine with plenty of fuel and are on the right road. PASSENGER But look Arsene, we're wrapped around a tree! WENGER No, I believe we are still heading in the right direction...

  46. mbg

    Apr 22, 2016, 13:17 #88255

    I wouldn't be surprised to see the lap on appreciation cancelled this year for some mysterious reason, but we the fans will certainly know, and yes no matter what happens on the pitch between now and then or what is achieved will make no difference whatsoever as this old past it manager is a dead man walking, and he knows it. wenger out.

  47. John Evans

    Apr 22, 2016, 13:16 #88254

    mbg - You say that most fans clearly want Wenger out, I would totally disagree. I have not heard one chant inside the ground that would back that argument up. One or two people holding up a small banner/poster asking for Arsene to leave does not make your point a correct one. 15,000 or so fans not turning up for the game does not make your point a correct one either in my opinion. Until such time comes where we are hearing chants about Arsene leaving inside the ground on match days your point seems wrong. If most fans wanted Arsene to leave inside the ground surely you would be hearing chants to that viewpoint? Arsene seems very safe for some time to come in my opinion. Unless there is genuine un rest and anti Wenger chants inside the ground I feel confident a new contract will be offered come next summer.

  48. DW Thomas

    Apr 22, 2016, 13:11 #88253

    Some have hit the nail on head so many times it's been ground to dust. This club have stagnated so badly led by a man who should have retired with more dignity years ago. Ramsey and Walcott especially represent the complete failure of the last 10 years to win the league or CL. Both players have been here since a young age, yet they have been key cogs in the bottling machine. What is most depressing is the spin and the lack of joy I get now watching games. Sure Sanchez's goals were great, but nothing is ever really on the line anymore. Overpaid princes have no accountability whatsoever, including Arsene, or King Arsenal. This season we beat the soon to be champions twice, yet couldn't beat Palace at home? Just look at Simeone at Athletico. Just beat Barcelona in the CL. We can only dream of that!

  49. GoonerRon

    Apr 22, 2016, 12:49 #88252

    Decent performance, two really good goals. Kevin - the barb about not playing Walcott at Highbury to avoid making additional payments to Southampton sounds a bit ridiculous. Great plan, let's not let Theo play to avoid making payments...then let him play....100's of times.

  50. Jamerson

    Apr 22, 2016, 12:48 #88251

    Man City's ground is like that for every home game and they're going for the champions league.Arsenal need to get rid of all the complaining glory hunters and fans without the bottle for a fight then we can go forward.

  51. CB

    Apr 22, 2016, 12:39 #88250

    Kevin, how about asking Ian Tanner to write the last few match reports of the season.Comedy gold, should increase the website hits.

  52. Redshirtswhitesleeves

    Apr 22, 2016, 12:37 #88249

    So typical and utterly predictable....the pampered little prima Donna pansies manage to get a win when they have completely messed up to the extent where there is no longer any pressure on them. As for wenger, the sight and sound of him and his lies and excuses make me feel physically sick. We all know if there was something riding on that game then the ****ing pussies would have bottled it as per the norm. Wenger out

  53. Peter

    Apr 22, 2016, 12:35 #88248

    Kevin stated above that there was a lot of empty seats. Well the official attendance apparently was 59,568. The most this year was against Liverpool 60,080 so therefore at WBA there were only 512 less fans. TRUE BECAUSE ALSO ELEPHANTS CAN FLY!!!!! Anyway a much better performance but we needed to score more goals in second half because goal difference is going to be important. When Joel Campbell came on the pace went up and it was almost back to the old Gooners.

  54. Nick

    Apr 22, 2016, 12:35 #88247

    Firstly let me say I enjoyed the win as I do any Arsenal victory but, yes there's a caveat, last nights performance encapsulated our season, brilliance from Alexis, promise from Iwobi, frustration with Giroud ,frustration with the endless passing when a shot is not only favourite but an obvious choice, exasperation when five yard passes are put out of play or gifted to the opposition, in fact had our opponents last night been a halfway decent side the win would have been in jeopardy,then as I watched this from my armchair I heard Nial Quinn say " This will take the pressure off Arsene Wenger it just what he needed there wont be any boos tonight " what a total plank ! Yes booing the TEAM last night would have been churlish,but to vindicate Wenger in that way shows that Quinn and his fellow experts have NO CLUE when it comes to us supporters! Views like his denigrate us , we are not fickle in our disgust at how our club has been mismanaged over the last ten years and this season in particular! One win against a mediocre team who were already on holiday does not make up for the throwing away of out title challenge or the litany of prior failures and humiliations we have suffered over the last decade !

  55. DJ

    Apr 22, 2016, 12:19 #88246

    Sorry to be a pedant but the WBA goalkeeper was Ben Foster, Fraser Forster plays for Southampton. Sorry little else to get excited about!!! (Ed's note - Apologies DJ, getting my dodgy England keepers mixed up - now corrected)

  56. mbg

    Apr 22, 2016, 12:17 #88245

    Nick T, excellent post, it says it all, micky mouse club alright, especially when TOF has his AKB's brainwashed into thinking it doesn't matter about the result or winning as long as there is qualittee, whatever the hell that is. You couldn't make it up. wenger out now.

  57. mbg

    Apr 22, 2016, 12:07 #88243

    Yes Ed the big story is the crowd and not the result (as it should be) who gives a fook about that, and the wenger out banners too which are popping up all over the place as every day goes by, well done to you all, to little to late ? I don't think so they would have been better in February sure but a point was made and it was sure as hell seen along with the banners and understood (no matter what the spin department come out with) the majority of fans now want this old fraud of a manager out, so go now old man. wenger out now.

  58. Martyn

    Apr 22, 2016, 12:02 #88242

    Wenger does himself no credit at all when he answers a straightforward question with another question. He is intelligent enough to know why the crowd was so sparse he just doesn't want to say it. It all adds to the frustration fans feel about how they are being treated; I would go as far as saying its contemptible at times. With that said, well done to the players last night who put in a good shift at last and could have chalked up a cricket score against a hapless WBA. Cant see them doing much against the Spuds next Monday.

  59. Made Up Stat

    Apr 22, 2016, 11:51 #88241

    Situation Report: Operation ‘Ignore Elephant in the Room’ achieved moderate success last night – STOP – However, worrying continuance of large amounts of consumer units deserting their posts – STOP – Urgently suggest commencement of Operation ‘Honestly, the Emperor is Wearing Clothes. Straight Up’ . – END –

  60. Paulo75

    Apr 22, 2016, 11:43 #88240

    And while the TV, press and social media are awash with Arsenal articles and opinion we have stonewall silence from our great "Leaders" Kroenke and Gazidis. What exactly are they doing on a daily basis?

  61. Alant

    Apr 22, 2016, 11:32 #88239

    Did anyone notice (out of those few who attended) Welbz being put through his paces at half time but then disappearing completely (ie no warming up at all) for the second half? Injured? Also, why were the sub defenders not warming-up - whilst Walcott, Joel and Coq were warming up constantly? Pre-agreed appearances maybe? If a defender got injured, ie clash of heads at a corner, which could happen at ANY time - the sub defenders would NOT be prepared. Typical mystifying Arsenal tactics to me.

  62. Nick T

    Apr 22, 2016, 11:32 #88238

    Aside from the usual arguments this is what we’ve become - 1. Feo is the joint highest earner at the club 2. Official attendance figures / Club lies 3. Invention of trophy for league position based on UEFA CL qualification rules committee 4. Half a fanbase that has turned into some bizarre cult 5. Manager/employee who appoints his own boss 6. Mickey Mouse club emblem with the cannon pointing the wrong way 7. Arsenal.com/player tweets – BTW Aaron Ramsey’s ‘getting into the swing of things’ this morning 8. Theo Walcott 9. Owner who actually states no desire to win trophies 10. Gunnersaurus Rex 11. Club captain Mikel Arteta 12. Players posing for trophy-winning style celebrations after winning a league game against Leicester City (led no doubt by Chief Choirboy and AFC PR machine Theo Walcott) 13. ‘Secret’ players meeting………announced by Theo Walcott within days on the back of beating the mighty Hull City Tigers 14. 2nd best team in North London!!! Oh well people as AW says ‘Don't focus on the league table, focus on the quality & the process of what we do’!!! Don’t worry Arsene we’ll show you & the players how much we appreciate the ‘process’ after the Villa game……last one out turn off the lights

  63. goonersol

    Apr 22, 2016, 11:28 #88237

    Nothing new to say, as no change...end of season game, going through the motions now that nothing to play for. Good on those fans who stayed away, but Wenger and the board will still put their justifiable spin on it . Only 1 game of interest left this season,away to City in the 3rd Place play-off to see where we end up. Groundhog season once again.