Good boys and bad boys... late drama and three points

Online Ed: Arsenal beat Burnley in dying seconds... again



Good boys and bad boys... late drama and three points


Neutrals will have a lot of sympathy for Sean Dyche if they watched the two matches his side played against Arsenal this season. Beaten by last minute goals on both occasions, neither of which should have stood. However, in the unlikely event that Arsenal do manage to win the title this season (okay, okay, but the title race is not mathematically dead just yet, so bear with me), a series of narrow wins and draws snatched from the jaws of defeat will be looked back upon with gratitude by Gooners. Aside from Burnley, there was the late penalty against Southampton, Giroud’s injury time leveler at Bournemouth, the draw at Old Trafford and managing to hang on with ten men against bogey side Swansea at home.

Of course, the excitement of a late winner and renewed belief is familiar territory. Danny Welbeck’s winner against Leicester last February, anyone? Arsenal were much closer to the leaders that day. The gap to Chelsea is eight points. The optimists are looking at Liverpool defeating Chelsea at Anfield, softening up Antonio Conte’s team for Arsenal to achieve a rare win at the Bridge the following Saturday. In the meantime, Arsenal need to take care of Watford at home. Put a tenner on that particular treble and I suspect you’d see a return of close to £100. For what it’s worth, I suspect Antonio Conte has picked apart the goals conceded in the defeat at Spurs and been working on his defence ever since. Chelsea will concede less than ten goals in their remaining 16 fixtures, and the re will be at least half a dozen 1-0 results in there. It’s what he did at Juventus, and he won a succession of titles there. It’s his first season in the Premier League, and he’s still learning, eight points clear of the chasing pack. Be careful what you wish for when you change manager, they tell me. This observer would just like less predictable seasons and greater hope.

On the subject of managers, Arsene Wenger compounded his red card for complaining to fourth official Anthony Taylor by then shoving him when Taylor told him he could not watch the remainder of injury time from the players’ tunnel. What would probably have been a one match absence from the dugout at St Mary’s next weekend, will surely now be extended, possibly until after the visit to Chelsea. Pushing refs is inadvisable, although the precedent is a fine and a two match ban for when Alan Pardew pushed a linesman in his time as Newcastle manager. What is interesting is how much passion Wenger shows to fourth officials when things go against his team. Perhaps this could be channeled in a more productive way, such as urging the players on when they are evidently slacking, or reminding Granit Xhaka not to make challenges that are going to ensure his team has to complete the game with ten men. As it is, the honest truth is that Wenger’s not being on the bench is unlikely to make any difference to the team, although if it does unshackle Steve Bould to do a bit of cajoling and earbashing, it may even prove beneficial… at least until Arsene tells him to stop doing it for fear of upsetting the players.

Jon Moss was the official in charge when Xhaka was sent off against Swansea at home earlier this season for what was a cynical hack to prevent a breakaway. It certainly wasn’t pretty, but it wasn’t dangerous either. It was a professional foul, but the official deemed it worthy of dismissal. There, one could make the argument that Xhaka was unfortunate, and took one for the team. Yesterday afternoon, his intentions were similar, to prevent a counter attack developing. He’d given the ball to Burnley’s Defour and knew his side were vulnerable. However, it was deep into the opposition half and there were players behind him. His challenge was a rush of blood to the head and once the referee consulted his linesman you had a feeling of what was to follow.

His absence going forward – presumably a three match ban, presents a dilemma for Arsenal. In recent games, pretty much everything has been going through Xhaka, and his partnership with Ramsey has improved with each game. Now, Arsenal have Coquelin and Ramsey. Ozil’s contribution will become more critical and there are justified fears he will lack influence at Chelsea.

There is a lot good about Xhaka’s game, but he can also be a liability with some of his decision making. The penalty for his shove at Bournemouth was just plain dumb. Of course, Patrick Vieira took a few reds in his earlier seasons at Arsenal before maturing and becoming the captain. Xhaka’s attitude is something that could prove an asset, but he has to control himself. At present, he is looking like he might prove an expensive mistake, but he has time to learn. He was fortunate his dismissals yesterday and against Swansea did not cost his team any points.

So that’s just two of the incidents. There was also 90 minutes plus of football somewhere in the mix. The first half saw a handful of ‘ooh’ and ‘ahh’ chances – generally distance efforts. Burnley, no surprise, sat deep and made life difficult for the home side.

After the interval, a breakthrough. No tippy-tappy tike taka, but a well delivered corner by Ozil to his mate Mustafi and a header into the far corner. 1-0 just before the hour, and suddenly, a game of football broke out. Xhaka’s dismissal with 25 minutes left on the clock gave the visitors more encouragement, and to add to the drama, panto villain Joey Barton entered the fray as a sub. A shame that he and Xhaka were not on the pitch at the same time as that could have made things even more entertaining.

Anyway, the clock ticked down, there was plenty of injury time (all justified due to the events of the second half) although here’s a tip for the manager from someone who has not worked half a day in football. If you are going to make late substitutions with the idea of eating up the clock, save them until injury time. The refs rarely extend it whatever happens after the board has gone up.

However, the extended added time actually worked in Arsenal’s favour yesterday. Once Burnley had equalized from the spot three minutes after the 90, the home side had enough time to fashion further attacks and win the penalty, fortunate that Koscielny was not flagged by the linesman. Cometh the man, cometh the moment. Alexis Sanchez and his dogs are the subject of a new banner in the stadium reading ‘Good Boys’ – a nice piece of humour from RedAction that the club have been good enough to indulge. But the visitors’ equalizer looked to have taken the gloss off of the Chilean’s day – he adopted his oft seen – woe is me and all around me – on his hunches pose as we awaited the re-start. But he took responsibility for the key penalty, meaning he would have no-one else to blame for the loss of two critical points were it not converted. And what a cool penalty it was. Cue euphoria.

It is actually quite tricky to put this kind of game into context. What does it say about the side in 2016/17? Both good and bad things. But the bottom line is that, for the most part, Arsenal have rode their luck this campaign. Whether or not they can continue to do this, time will tell. Burnley have taken a solitary point on their Premier League travels so far this season, which on paper should have made this a comfortable outing for Arsene Wenger’s team.

For Arsenal, with trips to Chelsea, Liverpool, Spurs, Stoke and Southampton to negotiate, the title challenge would have realistically been over had they failed to defeat Burnley. Eight points is a big enough gap, but ten points makes the mountain that much higher. As it is, hope remains. In less than a fortnight, we’ll have a good idea whether or not any optimism is justified. Swansea beat Liverpool on Saturday at Anfield. A demonstration of the unpredictability of football or what a difference a manager can make to a team? Which brings us back to Antonio Conte. Much as I’d like to see Arsene Wenger overtake him and win the title for Arsenal, I won’t be putting any money on it.

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  1. Nick

    Jan 26, 2017, 12:27 #97513

    Ron have you forgotten Souness playing for the scum and Middlesbrough? He most certainly was if not outright dirty extremely cynical back then as well as crafty he knew exactly when to dig an elbow into an opponent or scrape his studs down someone's leg or ankle at a time when video replays and retrospective action did not exist ! He was also a very talented player admittedly. Wengers absense from the touchline will hardly be noticed apart from the comic moments as he tries to zip up his coat ! I take it he is not banned from the dressing room or from following the game on a monitor or TV or from using his phone ,he does not interact with players on the touchline his activity on match days is generally confined to berating the 4th official ! I detest the man for what he has become but I have to say a 3 game ban is draconian considering the "offence" all heat of the moment stuff which was over and done with in seconds ! No punch was thrown or even attempted a slight push that would not have moved an centurion pensioner on crutches! No thought or consideration given to extenuating circumstances or common sense involved in this judgement but then what else can we expect from a group of old farts at the FA ?

  2. mbg

    Jan 25, 2017, 22:33 #97492

    I don't know who made the banner or where the photo for it came from, but it looks more like Cristiano Ronaldo. wenger out.

  3. mbg

    Jan 24, 2017, 22:45 #97443

    Alsace, yes we can imagine OGL in a hotel room in New Zealand or where ever screaming down the phone bouldee bouldee are you there ? have you made the 70th minute substitution yet ? bouldee bouldeeeee and all the time it's 4am in the morning in England.

  4. Alsace

    Jan 24, 2017, 15:50 #97428

    CB St Helena is in the South Atlantic which would take him weeks to get to and back from, but it is still on the internet so he could watch the game from his room with poisoned wallpaper and make the substitutions. We want somewhere beyond New Zealand where he couldn't be sure to get the right day that the match is on and which would take him weeks to get back. Also it's quite nice there so he could be tempted not to come back. BTW, Wenger could be compared to Napoleon except that the latter was a tactical genius (if not a strategic one since only a tw*t invades Russia)whereas our glorious leader has neither gift.

  5. chris dee

    Jan 24, 2017, 13:59 #97416

    Ron, We'll just have to wait and see,just a bit surprised that someone with so much experience like Souness could blithely assume after 20 games and playing in a new country that a player is just average.

  6. Ron

    Jan 24, 2017, 12:43 #97406

    Chris - narrow attitude there with all due respect. Nobody s saying he cant develop. Ive said it there too. He could improve of course. Ha she really made a mark for you on that midfield? Can you really pin down his best role or what looks like his best role? For me, he just looks like another samey type Wenger middle man who ll perhaps never impose himself on games. We ve had a boatload of them this last decade. For the price paid, he should have shown his colours by now at least i would have thought. Im sure that whats Souey looks for too. He wasnt denigrating the player. Most players are run of the mill really. Few stand out head and shoulders above the crowd.

  7. chris dee

    Jan 24, 2017, 12:36 #97403

    After about 20 games Xhaka is' nothing beyond adequate'.Well that's ruled out Thiery Henry and a few others then.

  8. Ron

    Jan 24, 2017, 11:36 #97401

    Souness only became 'dirty' when his legs had gone after he went to Rangers. He was a brilliant player for Liverpool and he, with McDermott Kennedy and Case was perhaps the best midfield ive ever seen. Yes, he was hard as nails. No doubt about that. Cant recall him ever injuring any body deliberately though. Maybe his managerial record isnt great, though he did well for Rangers, but his punditry in my view is considered and accurate. In my view Xhaka s done nothing beyond being adequate. Perhaps under a different Coach he might progress into a Lampard type player. Hes got the shooting ability, presently clearly being stifled by Wenger.

  9. Nick

    Jan 24, 2017, 10:47 #97398

    Every time we score an opening goal with very rare exceptions we seem to forget how to play for a while and drop deep inviting pressure especially so when we have gone down to ten men ! We make needless back passes lose possession through being casual or just nervous our defensive clearances are invariably straight to opponents no one seems to have the ability to clump the ball over the half way line into touch thus giving us time to regroup ! Against Burnley a dm was essentially not needed so Xhakas absense should not have caused us too much trouble for the last thirty minutes had we not dropped so deep and just kept calm we should still have been able to control the game and pick Burnley off as they pushed forward trying to take advantage instead we panic and give the ball away putting pressure on our goal! How many times in these situations do you see an Arsenal player take the ball to the corner flag to try and run down the clock ? We are ill disciplined and rudderless in these situations which is surely down to coaching ,the fact that we drop so deep is either a mental thing or again instruction ! Watford at home should be a comfortable 3 points they are a poor side but I can still see the brutish Troy Deeney giving our defence problems with his sheer endeavor and their porous defence suddenly appearing world class ! Respect your opposition by all means but do not take it too far with the proper application and focus we should beat them and improve our goal difference at the same time yet I fear that will NOT be the case and another bore fest and narrow win will be the outcome! As for the Chelsea game it's win or bust we must start the game like an express train and risk injury and exhaustion by carrying on in that vein all match with our focus at full power ,anything less will see us lose and possibly by an embarrassing margin !

  10. chris dee

    Jan 24, 2017, 10:42 #97397

    Souness totally wrong .Xhaka is a good young midfielder who needs time and help from the manager and coaching staff to curb recklessness.Something that Souness,one of the filthiest players ever,had to do,so Souness can naff off.Finally we saw an Arsenal full back who realised that defending is the main part of a full back's job.Well done Gabriel (shame Arsenal are trying to bomb out another good defender in Jenkinson),what a change from prancing non tackling delicate wanna be right winger Bellerin. And yet again,even with ten men our defensive organisation was so s*** we allowed Burnley to penetrate into our penalty area and cause havoc and give away a penalty.Their penalty all down to bad defensive coaching and management,which is probably why our manager,realising it was down to him, just stopped short on lamping the fourth official.Arsene should be banned for at least 4 matches.Still not to worry,this is his last season.

  11. mbg

    Jan 24, 2017, 10:33 #97396

    David, quite right possibly but unlikely, highly unlikely, and even if they did/do, don't forget we'd only follow suit and do what we always do with wenger and his bunch of bottlers with his losers DNA running through them, it would be inevitable. Any resignation yet ?

  12. CB

    Jan 24, 2017, 10:32 #97395

    Alsace, I would suggest St Helena. He shares a lot in common with a former resident.

  13. Alsace Lorraine Du Totteridge et Whetstone

    Jan 24, 2017, 10:29 #97394

    Isn't it a shame when idiots spoil it for the rest of us. Doubtless we shall have new access procedures to contend with before giving out our words of wisdom. They should go into football management where idiotic behaviour can be richly rewarded in a consequence free environment. I will be sending the following letter to the Football Association. "Dear Madam, I note that the secret committee of punishment will be sitting to decide the fate of Arsene Wenger for being sent off and ( allegedly) barging a match official. Clearly there will be a ban and a fine, but the question is where will Mr Wenger serve his ban? Surely one of the far flung outposts of the remaining French Colonial Empire would suit best. New Caledonia or the Society Islands in the Pacific Ocean perhaps ? Preferably the latter as with the international date line hopelessly confusing him, his interference in matchday activity ( particularly substitutions) will be neutralised, thus improving Arsenal's title chances."

  14. GoonerRon

    Jan 24, 2017, 9:47 #97393

    @ mbg - it is possible to enjoy the team winning without getting moist, you know.

  15. Website editor

    Jan 24, 2017, 9:18 #97392

    Furthermore, if you wish to post comments, please be brave enough to do it under one guise. Don't worry folks, gutless bonzohomo will have his silver membership torn up and stuffed up his a hole.

  16. Redshirtswhitesleeves

    Jan 24, 2017, 9:04 #97391

    Until the chaos of the last few minutes the 2 things that struck me the most was how ridiculously quiet that awful stadium is. I mean embarrassingly, pathetically silent! The second was just how utterly useless Ramsey is. Nothing he ever tries comes off and he struggles to pass the ball 10 yards to another red shirt. A complete liability and he is far from being alone in that squad of nearly men. Makes me laugh that some people think that late winner will have some sort of significance in the title race, some people still talking of us winning the title. We haven't a cat in hells chance of winning this league and never will under this regime

  17. Bard

    Jan 24, 2017, 8:59 #97390

    CT; you are dead right mate. We seem intent on shooting ourselves in the foot. Granit's challenge was totalling unnecessary and put the game at risk. Wenger's meltdown and alleged calling of the ref a cheat was petulant at best and classless at worst. The Coq's challenge wasnt even debatable so what's he complaining about. Maybe a sign of his desperation. Anyway it's all a distraction, on that performance its still a top 4 battle. As an aside what's all this posting under different names all about. Get a life.

  18. Tony Evans

    Jan 24, 2017, 8:33 #97389

    At least he apologised.

  19. Tony Evans

    Jan 24, 2017, 8:20 #97388

    It's a pity / shame Wenger doesn't channel his aggressive / sore loser mentality towards his players rather than the officials. Makes himself look like a Mourinho style twat in the process, and meanwhile his team of lightweight luvvies get away with murder!

  20. Pete (Jamie's brother)

    Jan 24, 2017, 8:08 #97387

    Oi! Squeak can you ring or email my bruv Jamie. He's a right wuss, rang me up crying coz some other blokes were nasty to him on the internet. I keep bleeding telling him don't start things yer can't finish. If yer going to weep every time, stay off the site. Anyhows he wants you to do your 'special' thing to cheer him up. I don't even want to know what this is, but if my guess is right I'll give the dirty little ****e a right hander! No wonder his missus did the off! Give him a bell and blow him some kisses!

  21. David

    Jan 24, 2017, 6:57 #97386

    A reality check is needed re: title chances. Let's say Chelsea only win 10 and draw 3 of their remaining 16 games, they will finish with 88 points. To match this, Arsenal will need to gain 41 points - 13 wins and 2 draws, and then hope for a better goal difference. Chelsea have to implode from here to lose the title. Possible but unlikely.

  22. Joe S.

    Jan 24, 2017, 0:30 #97384

    Seriously though, some of Xhaka's passing was much better than " run of the mill". no wonder Souness couldn't manage. Xhaka was having a very good game, pulling off the sort of passes that Ramsey can only dream of.He seems to be more aware of his role now, and with that will also offer the team more in the long run, although I think it will also be part of his nature to make rash decisions. Again, I thought Iwobi is on the way up. Most of his passes went to the right people. its a shame Oxlade C. couldn't get a game because I believe he has alot to offer. What a waste if he has to leave ant then gives his best to Liverpool or one of the Madchester teams. Yes, i think he can be that good under a serious footballing person. On the other hand its also easy to see which players are dragging the club down, ie Ramsey, Walcott and Giroud. They offer nothing for the long term.

  23. Website Editor

    Jan 24, 2017, 0:29 #97383

    All troll WUM comments from mbg will be completely ignored and allowed to slip through because I am completely crooked and bent.

  24. mbg

    Jan 23, 2017, 23:01 #97382

    CT Gooner, great post, sadly many don't cant comprehend this, and sadder still this is the height of their and the clubs ambition now, (listening and lapping up bullshyte spin from their messiah) beating second raters and celebrating and getting moist likes it's 1999, (it's certainly not mine and glad to see yours either and a hell of a lot of others too) and then slagging others off (well try to) when they don't conform and do the same as them and show more a lot more ambition, and it's all down to an ambitious less old past it embarrassment of a manager who is holding us back because he isn't up for, or capable of anything else. wenger out now.

  25. GS

    Jan 23, 2017, 22:40 #97381

    CT Gooner : you're right, real change is needed , but while Wenger is in charge , there is not much we can do but try and enjoy the few crumbs of excitement we get , God knows we had enough disappoint. Feb will decide when our season finishes .

  26. CT Gooner

    Jan 23, 2017, 22:21 #97380

    Folks, that was Burnley we played yesterday. Too many posters seem to think it was Bayern. We were crap, boring, boring arsenal. like Kev said, all of a sudden after 60 minutes of gentle jabbing, we got a punch in. Did we follow it up with a barrage of shots, no, we passed it about a bit and then got a man sent off! Creating drama and tension may get some excited, but when that's against opposition we should be thumping, it just suggests real change is needed.

  27. Website editor

    Jan 23, 2017, 22:19 #97379

    It's clear that many on here feel the need to post under several user names. This must stop or else we will have to begin log in details before comments are approved. It is also very apparent that jjetplane is a secret Everton fan and will now be removed with force.

  28. mbg

    Jan 23, 2017, 19:57 #97378

    jj, spot on mate, another one who'd do the job as good as any when the AKB's come out with their who do you get to replace him with, yawn, he had his defence working well everyone of them all together, with the little technicians in their pockets (as well as wenger) you could hear the crowd groaning as the little technicians tried to walk the ball into the net. wenger out.

  29. mbg

    Jan 23, 2017, 19:41 #97376

    Also remember the carthorse was the penalty taker before he was recalled for re shoeing, (I suppose that was a masterstroke from TOF) I wonder would what the outcome of that would have been, would he have skipped up and tried another scorpion. Any resignation yet ?

  30. mbg

    Jan 23, 2017, 19:09 #97375

    It was only a matter of time until TOF got his marching orders (the only surprise is it hasn't come a lot sooner) with all his ranting and raving, blaming them and others everyone but himself, no sympathy whatsoever it couldn't come soon enough, thoroughly deserved. wenger out now.

  31. Fozzy

    Jan 23, 2017, 18:44 #97374

    It's over 24 hours since I got back from Ashburton Grove and I am still exhausted. Stress levels went through the roof. The atmosphere at the end of the game was the best for years. Proud to be a Gooner.

  32. jjetplane

    Jan 23, 2017, 17:43 #97372

    Did you get banned for apparently hurling wobs through the air? That 4th off should have floored the ostrich and I bet that was on his mind. Doubt most officials like the Ems on a sunday as it hard to keep awake in the cold stoney silence. What a **** club Arsenal are turning into. That Swansea coach looked good - he could be the new GG. Got authority unlike that feeble old squawk.

  33. Torbay Gooner

    Jan 23, 2017, 17:13 #97370

    Kevin, fair summary and I would expect a lot more than £100 back on that treble!! Very average performance by the team and another fortunate win against Burnley. If Xhaka turns out to be half as good as Vieira then yes you could forgive the odd red card, somehow though,that's unlikely on current evidence. Hope Wenger picks a strong team against Southampton in what is realistically our only chance of silverware, but with a midweek game looming probably not!

  34. Skinny jeans, beard, nerdy glasses

    Jan 23, 2017, 16:51 #97369

    Every time we win it's apparently a 'massive', 'huge' or 'crucial' 3 points. If everyone else had won would it have been less so?

  35. jjetplane

    Jan 23, 2017, 16:44 #97367

    Yeah Viera put a lid on it and won some titles. Granite (sis) is a serial failure so should be at the Ems for the next 10 years when Giroud will be in the dug out smiling away. No trophies here lol! Massive pts for a 4 scrape in .... ps ostriches can be aggressive as we can see from yesterday. Any real Arsenal on here?

  36. GoonerRon

    Jan 23, 2017, 16:10 #97366

    Three points were crucial and we got them. My rather crude assessment of the key decisions were they got a good one (no pen for foul on Mustafi) and they got a bad one (no offside for Kos pen), so you could argue it has balanced out. Xhaka needs his head examined - where did players learn to tackle like that? Hopefully he, perhaps like Vieira did, will learn to put a lid on it - he really fricking needs to. Massive 3 points with other results, massive.

  37. Cool Ruler

    Jan 23, 2017, 15:48 #97364

    Hello...any Arsenal supporters on here?

  38. Paulo75

    Jan 23, 2017, 15:29 #97363

    Gazzoid - meant nailed on penalty. Getting my bad tackles mixed up, humble apologies.

  39. mbg

    Jan 23, 2017, 15:15 #97362

    It has emerged the reason TOF got set off was he apparently called the referee a cheat, (he must be listening to the AKB's)what a past it old embarrassment he is, he just can't take a beating, even what looked like one, no sportsmanship whatsoever, no dignity, just egoism and arrogance, go now wenger resign, your an embarrassment to this club.

  40. GS

    Jan 23, 2017, 14:26 #97359

    Average game with a fantastic finish - Great to secure all 3pts. Wenger getting excited and kicking off, good to see. Xhaka sending off a bit harsh (Rojo did 2 worse with no red)Right now its all about 3pts, Feb will decide when our season ends, all we can do is hope..."Atom & Humbers Red & White Army ".......COYG

  41. mbg

    Jan 23, 2017, 13:55 #97358

    So where's all this menteel strength that TOF keeps slabbering about, he didn't show any sign of it himself while assaulting an official lol, someone with great menteel strength would have showed it by walking and saying nothing, then moved on into the tunnel when ordered keeping his gob shut in the process, or just slopped of to his dressing room, it's not that he was needed on the side lines or was going to make any difference. wenger out now.

  42. mbg

    Jan 23, 2017, 13:35 #97357

    Yes the excitement of a late winner is always good for some, it gets them all excited and moist and definitely distorts the memory, another bore fest with the opposition tippy tapped to death (along with the fans)and saves an old fraud of a managers arse again, with an other embarrassment thrown in for good measure. Any resignation yet ?

  43. Alsace

    Jan 23, 2017, 13:15 #97356

    I didn't think that we did badly until Xhaka's madness. We were up with the pace of the game and defended well throughout the team. Iwobi had another excellent game which makes his removal by Wenger rather than the hopeless Ramsey all the more inexplicable. My friend P said that he is pressing for a 237 game ban for Wenger. Whilst I don't think that that is enough to deliver us a title, lets hope only a touchline ban to the end of this season will ensure that he never makes a duff substitution again. Any bets on Kos being injured for vital games because AW didn't take him off?

  44. Gazzoid

    Jan 23, 2017, 13:13 #97355

    Paulo - so Coquelin's foul was a nailed on red card - what are you smoking???

  45. jjetplane

    Jan 23, 2017, 13:02 #97354

    As you said RON of Wilshere he has found his level at Bournemouth and most of the squad could be there or similar and would fade into mid table obscurity. Reckon the most overrated is Ozil who cannot influence games and evidence will show no one will be offering big money for him and have not even heard any Chinese interest. The averageness of Wenger's 'philosophy' has this lot riding luck like only a serial CL placement can have. Other teams are growing like the Stokes and Evertons and not mentioning the Totts in a PL reckoning does not make sense. They had a poor show and came back to a point at Citeh. The presnt Wenger squad is like a second tier invincible side just scraping victories until the gas runs out at some place like OT. Interesting mentioning Sewansea who with a new coach get caned in the initial and then go on to record an incredible win so there will be more evidence of the sense of getting in new manager blood if the Swans get up the table. For all the circus drama of extra time the Ems is undoubtedly the flattest ground for atmosphere in the PL. If nothing is won this season will even a CL scrape in help things. By the season's end Wenger and Ozil will still be there on improved contracts and Sanchez if he wants to win anything with a club will be gone. Even the FA Cup is well up for grabs now and if the real Saints turn up then predictably Wenger will go out leaving an all out assault on top four. Thank **** for Swansea, Stoke, Everton and others for giving a glimpse of a game called football.

  46. Wear Your Colours

    Jan 23, 2017, 12:54 #97353

    Overall I thought we gave a very solid performance. We dominated possession in the opening half but our shooting, particularly from Alexis, was a little awry. In the second half we upped the tempo, took the lead and looked very comfortable. I thought Xhaka and Ramsey were bossing the middle and controlling the pace of the game. After the red card the defence came under a lot more pressure but for the most part handled it well; Gabriel’s strength in the air, allied to that of Mustafi and Koscielny helped keep them at bay. Even with ten men Coquelin and Welbeck could have finished the game with the second goal. The extra-time drama set the pulses racing and we came out of it with a good three points. After a week-end in which Liverpool underlined that ‘winnable’ games on paper still have to be won, it was good to secure the three-points. Next up Southampton. COYG!

  47. Paulo75

    Jan 23, 2017, 12:51 #97352

    Cringeworthy berating of the officals from Arsene as usual. Coquelin's foul was a nailed on red card. That aside, a more than welcome 3 points given the (self induced) circumstances. A Liverpool win v Chelsea will make things interesting at least - that's if we can beat Watford.

  48. Uwot?

    Jan 23, 2017, 12:50 #97351

    Excellent summing up of a "crazy match" Kevin.& yes.hope wenger gets a lengthy ban.could be a blessing in disguise to have Boulder on the bench for a genuine piece of tactics & in game management for Chelsea.could be very interesting....

  49. Jude

    Jan 23, 2017, 12:46 #97350

    Pleased with the vitally important three points. I'm hearing that Ramsey's getting better. I must have watched a different game. I'm not sure if that was an attempted clearance by Ramsey, a pass or a heavy touch Coquelin was forced to deal with just before conceding the penalty. In any event, it was rubbish. So with Xhaka banned, Santi out, Elneny off in parts unknown, and Jack quietly showing what he can do when fit, we're left watching this muppet's useless rabonas, embarrassing scorpion attempts, and myriad tricks and flicks that don't come off. Brilliant.

  50. Exeter Gunner

    Jan 23, 2017, 12:45 #97349

    Think Kevin has covered the main points. Since the 2 defeats there's been a run of weaker opposition that won't be repeated this season. From February on it gets tough and stays tough. The team have been edging their way through these supposedly easier matches so the rest of a season will be yet another battle to stay in the top 4. Talk of the title is not optimistic but delusional.

  51. Ron

    Jan 23, 2017, 12:29 #97348

    Graeme Souey summed up Xhaka - 'run of the mill midfielder'. Nail on the head i thought. Our squad is choc full of run of the mill players.

  52. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    Jan 23, 2017, 12:25 #97347

    After 10 minutes yesterday I knew that we were in for a long afternoon. Xhaka - get rid. A liability, the like we haven't seen since Eboue.