Signs of Life, and Tales of a Boardroom Battle

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Signs of Life, and Tales of a Boardroom Battle

CEO and Chairman: Closet WOBs????


An interesting atmosphere at yesterday’s game. In theory, a huge match, but palpable excitement before the kick off was notable by its absence, with pretty much everyone I spoke to anticipating a home defeat. More significantly, there were a large number of no shows for a game of this profile, the sort of thing one would normally see for matches much closer to the end of the season. That apathy was reflected in the lack of applications for FA Cup semi-final tickets – many thousands had no interest in attending the match at Wembley, even though the ticket prices are considerably cheaper than a grade A Arsenal home game, such as yesterday’s.

The issue of where the club are going in terms of the recreating of a buzz, some excitement, some anticipation is paramount to the supporters. For what seems to be a majority, this summer seems to be an opportunity to offer something different from the treading water of the past 11 seasons, where Arsenal have been consistent, but only won two FA Cups. However, rather than the previous AKB/WOB split, things have got a little more complex now. There is more of a three way divide. Those that still want Wenger to continue past the summer, those that want him to step down (but who feel too polite to do anything to send him that message aside from not attending matches), and those who are more demonstrative to ensure he gets the message that they want to see a different Arsenal next season.

On that front, the protest group that organized the plane over West Brom kept their cards a bit closer to their chest this time around, to counter any club-organised imitation. A mobile billboard with messages on two sides and the rear toured the area for a couple of hours before parking up between the stadium and Arsenal tube station, where it got plenty of attention. They are asking for more funds to be donated to continue their actions, and have started an online petition for those who wish to send a message to the club, and are publicizing their activities through a Twitter account. Another march was held to the director’s entrance yesterday and the marches will continue, with Wednesday’s beginning from the east stand of the old Highbury stadium in Avenell Road at 7pm. Supporters at the West Ham game that wish to send a message to the board not to award the manager a new contract are asked to spend the first 13 minutes of the match on the concourses behind the stands, and watch the action on the TV screens before taking their seats at 7.58. The significant thing about the 13 being the number of years since Arsenal’s last league title.

The group have stated that even if a new contract is signed, their protests will continue. The interesting thing will be if an announcement is made that Arsene is to do a further two years, whether or not those who have so far been reluctant to join their ranks might be tipped over the edge and realize the only way to influence change is to add their voices. Anyway, more of that later, let’s deal with the 90 minutes yesterday.

Arsenal definitely needed a win in this game, as – for their title ambitions – did Pep Guardiola’s side. And reflecting that, both teams went for it. No great surprise that defensively, neither side looked the real deal, undoubtedly the reason both are where they currently sit in the table. Attacking football is exciting and has its place, but I’m struggling to name a title winning side in England that didn’t also have some kind of solidity in defence. Man City cut through Arsenal like a knife through butter more than once, and hit the woodwork twice aside from their goals, whilst in turn failing to clear their own lines. In truth it was a minor surprise we only saw four goals. Guardiola’s side had 14 goal attempts to Arsenal’s eight.

There isn’t a lot I can add to the analysis on Match of the Day last night, which highlighted the lack of defensive concentration of both Ozil and Granit Xhaka and the general inability of Wenger’s Arsenal to work defensively as a unit from front to back. Giving goals away through basic errors is a huge self-imposed handicap, and the Gunners have been shooting themselves in the foot like this for more seasons than I’d care to remember. For all that, after the memories of Bayern away, it was a pleasant surprise that after Gabriel replaced Koscielny at half-time, no further goals were conceded. Arsene Wenger doesn’t coach defence, he won’t let Steve Bould do it, and the players cannot sort it out themselves on the field. The end effect is that they have got tired of falling short, and there is a feeling that they are not putting in 100%. And it's something the manager has not been able to address. There was certainly more commitment at times yesterday, such as Walcott’s foul on Fernandinho, which should have been a yellow card, but led to a chance when the referee let it go. Fierce Theo eh? The new Roy Keane? Maybe not. It needs mentioning that there was a bit of passion on the Arsenal bench as well, as Arsene did his slamming a bottle of water into the ground routine after the second City goal. I wonder if the bookies still offer a price on Granit Xhaka picking up a yellow card in a match these days? The only doubt these days seems to be whether or not he will get a red. Wenger recently told the press in January that the player “doesn’t master well the technique of tackling”. And bought him to play in central midfield. Another example of making life difficult for yourself. As for Alexis Sanchez, although his commitment has never been questioned, his decision making in possession in his own half raises questions. Twice he made life dangerous by giving the ball away. At times, it looks like he is playing for his own amusement now. Anyway, Arsenal equalised for a second time when Mustafi scored from a corner early in the second half reminiscent of two of West Brom’s goals a fortnight earlier, but after that, neither side struck the killer blow.

It was certainly an entertaining game, end to end, very open, two teams trying to win with a draw little use to either, lots of chances, generally high tempo. Games between Arsenal and City are generally like this, and the clash at Wembley will give us more of the same. However, the bottom line is that Arsenal’s deficiencies were exposed, and are not going away any time soon. A point is certainly better than another defeat, no question about that, but in terms of the hopes of getting back into the top four, the team needs wins. They play West Ham, Palace and Boro before their semi-final. They realistically have to take maximum points there, given the remaining seven fixtures include visits to Spurs, Stoke and Southampton, with a resurgent Leicester, Manchester United and Everton to come to north London. And going on recent performances, the inability to prevent leaking goals is unlikely to improve enough to see the required resurgence in results. And if the players are not completely motivated, then it’s even harder. I think most fans now accept that we will be watching Europa League matches next season, at least until the team contrive to exit the competition, which will probably happen around the same time as the habitual Champions League exit once the knockout stages get going. Given that both domestic cups will be won by one of the top six sides, then even a 7th place finish will mean European football next season.

Anyway, onto more fundamental matters. Ivan Gazidis made a rare appearance yesterday when the third fans’ forum meeting of the season was held pre-game. Pressured into explaining what the hell was going on with the manager’s contract situation, Gazidis played a straight bat in the style of 1980s England cricketer Chris Tavare, never wavering from this single response: “The decision will be mutual”. Ah well, nobody expected him to reveal anything.

However, there may be a reason he has kept a very low profile lately. Just over a week ago, a tweet that caught my eye read,
“Rumours there's a boardroom battle going on
Gazidis and Keswick want a new manager in and will leave if Wenger stays
Kroenke decides”

It’s something that I wasn’t certain about, because although I had heard that Gazidis wanted a change of manager, this was the first I’d heard of chairman Keswick not being on board, if you will excuse the pun.

Now, please always remember the following: “Football is bullsh*t central”. Ok? So read what’s next in this light, but let’s indulge in some speculation… because someone who actually is a lot more informed about this sort of thing yesterday told me, having zero awareness of the tweet, that there is actually some truth behind it. Both Gazidis and Sir Chips have been arguing for a change of manager, and even Josh Kroenke would prefer a new manager if it happens to be Thierry Henry (ok, the merits of that are for another day, but the point is the board are far from unanimous on Arsene’s sticking around). However, Stan Kroenke is adamant he wants Wenger to continue and is not shifting. Which then begs the question, is this a vote thing (Friar and Lord Harris in favour of remain? Against three going for Wexit?) or is it simply a matter of Stan saying, what I say goes, in which case, what is the point in having a board of directors? If it is three v three does the chairman get the casting vote?

So let’s see if the following happens.
1. Arsenal finish outside the top four and fail to win the FA Cup to placate the fans.
2. It’s announced that Arsene Wenger has signed a new two year deal.
3. Ivan Gazidis seeks employment elsewhere this summer.
4. Sir Chips Keswick resigns from the board.

Then we’ll know the truth of the above.

What Stan Kroenke needs to understand is the importance of re-uniting the fanbase. It is in factions now, and the disharmony (there were more punch-ups in the stands yesterday) is not doing any favours for the club at all. And the only way the supporters will come together now is when the current manager leaves. Once he drops out of Champions League qualification, there is genuinely little reason to retain him. Arsenal are not going to get relegated, but their chances of bringing back the glory days will only improve after a change in the atmosphere at the club – both in the dressing room and the stands. Right now, we have a horrible atmosphere of either aggression or apathy. It’s civil war at the Emirates, with a large number of fans indistinguishable from corpses when it comes to enthusiasm.

On one level, it’s the most entertaining thing Arsenal have given us for seasons, but only in a peeking between the gaps in your fingers as two schoolkids have a punch up after the lessons have ended kind of way. It’s ugly, it’s divisive and there is only one solution, as the arrogance and stubbornness of the manager have been allowed to go on too long. There are too many supporters he will never win back now.

I believe Gazidis has realized this, and had enough. So it is a ‘he goes or I go’ scenario. And it is the reason Gazidis has not make any public statements or appearances in recent times. His own form of protest perhaps?

“I am clear in my head,” the manager told the interviewer on Match of the Day, but just maybe, the board are not clear in theirs. And if the contract has been signed, the CEO could be just marking time until the summer, when he may not need to worry about fan reaction to the sales of Ozil and Sanchez, because he won’t be around. We wait and watch.

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  1. Herd

    Apr 05, 2017, 10:37 #100261

    Hillwood is senile and before that he was an upper class moron who inherited his wealth and titles . He sold his birth-wright for a pittance to the wide boy david dein and his one time friend danny fizbang. Ken Friar cares only about Ken Friar !

  2. burked

    Apr 05, 2017, 7:40 #100258

    Whatever about shares and profit and power, it must genuinely be hurting people like Ken Friar and Hill-Wood to see what has become of the club, the Laughing stock of football. While Hill-Wood no longer sits on the board i'm sure the likes of he and Richard Carr and Friar who've been there for ever and a day must be hurting. TIME FOR CHANGE.

  3. The Man From UNCLE

    Apr 04, 2017, 7:58 #100223

    In private companies this state of affairs is called "drift", where there is no clear leadership and / or management, resulting in the company going through the motions, drifting along. Which is where Arsenal FC finds itself right now.

  4. markymark

    Apr 04, 2017, 6:44 #100222

    Couple of points first is Herd saying the shares cannot be used to vote against a person or view. Shares either have voting rights or they don't. If you have voting rights that's it. What you chose to do with them of course is the owners business. Next point was that Chips was nailed on as being the respect Wenger plane sponsor. So does this make Chips the master of deception as this does seem set against his supposed ant Wengo stance. I'm not negative at all post Wengo. Of course a new guy could completely screw it up but if we get the right pick he could cut through the team and staff at will. A new model could be imposed in a relatively short time. Lastly has anyone noticed that not one AKB freak has offered up the old cobblers "who would you pick then?" Who'd do better than Wenger? They no the arguments lost and that on present form with the facilities Wengo has , he is the poorest performing manager in the Prem.

  5. mbg

    Apr 03, 2017, 23:56 #100221

    Ron, that's a question or two I was just about to pose, has things ever been so bad ? ever been at such a low ? (another record for wenger) some of these so called Arsenal supporters in reality wenger supporters used to take great delight in throwing up the George Graham bung era as the worst, the lowest and most embarrassing, where are they now ? there's not many of them about today. Go now wenger your the biggest embarrassment in this clubs history.

  6. FPGooner

    Apr 03, 2017, 23:29 #100220

    mbg, being a pessimist, the board, the snake oil salesman and Wiggy and son could all be in agreement that Wenger the Artful bodger, gets 2 more years. But, the PR guys may have warned them that this risks enraging even some of the more faithful sycophants to switch camps. The last thing this sick regime want is for Commercial sponsors to start asking questions. That will happen once a certain amount of dissent is reached. It is imperative that pressure be maintained and increased until the turgid, shameless and inept has-been is gone.

  7. mbg

    Apr 03, 2017, 23:12 #100219

    PaulWard, your right, there's something going on alright yes if everybody (the board) are behind him why not just announce it ? what's the reason for not ? if their all in agreement it's going to be announced anyway, unless not everybody is happy, not everybody is pulling together, not everybody is in agreement, it would explain TOF playing silly beggers and sticking two fingers up at us, (and we all know how he loves to do that) and holding off and off with his silly smirk as if everything is rosey. Go now wenger you past it old parasite.

  8. Gaz

    Apr 03, 2017, 22:24 #100218

    Like a lot of you I just don't care anymore. I don't care if we lose indeed I'm happy about it as it's the only way we'll see the end of this ridiculous situation we find ourselves in. For me there is only one thing that matters and that's Wenger leaving. He should hane left 3 years ago and we wouldn't be in this mess but we are and I long for the day when I can get behind an Arsenal side again.

  9. Paulo75

    Apr 03, 2017, 21:51 #100217

    If the boardroom split rumours are true then I wholeheartedly welcome the fact that some senior figures appear to have pulled their heads out of the sand and realised the state of decline the club are in under the current set up. That the will he wont he saga is still unresolved is very un-Arsenal like and is benefitting no-one. What benefit Stan Kroenke can possibly see in Wenger's continued presence at the club is truly mind-boggling.

  10. markymark

    Apr 03, 2017, 20:40 #100216

    Mr Wenger lick, lick, slurp, Mr Wenger lick, lick, slurp .... Jesus your slithery wretchedness knows no bounds Squeaky.

  11. CORNISH GOONER

    Apr 03, 2017, 20:10 #100215

    The Old Ostrich has surely been exposed by now as pretty nasty piece of work. Despite all the evidence of his megalomania there are still some Media apologists out there insisting he is a "lovely man". However I see Real Madrid are going to help us & take advantage of the current AFC turmoil & ditch Zinadene - yeah right!! The BoD stuff is interesting however & I had noticed Chippie's reluctance to support Webster on Sky last week. Two very fat worms for turning?

  12. Leek fc

    Apr 03, 2017, 20:04 #100214

    Alsace. Lots of huff and puff and speculation. Mr Wenger will tell you when it's time to go. There you go again, reading into an eye contact 10 years ago. Did he go weak at the knees when he saw you. Probably wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire. 200 people or so doesn't affect the great man. Evidence of the Akb's fighting back was very apparent yesterday.

  13. markymark

    Apr 03, 2017, 19:54 #100213

    Squeak - Troopz thinks your a ham roll

  14. nozzer

    Apr 03, 2017, 19:47 #100212

    The plot thickens. Wenger has not had the vote of confidence from the board. The whole charade as to him making his decision but not revealing has become a millstone over the club. He should show us supporters some respect. We hand over our hard earned cash be it for match tickets, merchandise and tv subscriptions that pay his salary. The best solution is for him to go. I think the end of the month is key. The cup semi final and the trip to the lane will be telling

  15. Yes its Ron

    Apr 03, 2017, 19:35 #100211

    I think the pendulums now swinging towards AW going as well. The lack of a win yesterday was more significant than has been reported i feel. For myself personally, i can only feel sad for Arsenal for the first time in 50 odd years. They've had many low points on the pitch in their history before and since my time and as kid of the 60s, i understand all that only too well and then saw it again mid 70s. The malaise now though is deeper still. The Club has NO sporting identity. It has no recognizable direction. No will. No presence. There is no fear factor. They paid lip service to showing fight yesterday, but it wasn't convincing. An average team like MC went there yesterday and just went for it in the idea that Arsenal would just fold in the face of a brisk opening. They werent good enough to keep it going though and AFC got off the hook, but Wenger knew the reality of what happened. AFC just folding at home, yes, at HOME! Hows about that. The very notion of it in those far off mid 60s and mid 70s days wouldnt have entered our heads nor the other teams heads either. The momentum behind the Clubs decline is increasing rapidly. I think Wenger knows that the writing is on the wall. The only thing holding it thinly together right now is Boardroom fear and indecision. The Clubs arrogance this last 10 yrs never thought the top 4 would dissapear. Lunacy as its edged away for years now. Lat yrs 2nd was due to the so called top teams being AWOL and an East Midlands freak occurrence. This Board thought runners up was an improvement! If SK was any sort of businessman hed fire the Cheif Exec and Wenger, but he wont, not till the wallet starts to unfold at its threads. Sadly, Kev, you missed a category, you never mentioned the the ones that no longer care.

  16. markymark

    Apr 03, 2017, 19:07 #100210

    Well Alan Green said "we know things are not right at Arsenal" then we have Bob Wilson who though I'd never say a bad word against was a nailed on Wengerite, coming out with "Wenger should make his mind up". To me it suggests Wenger has Stan's ear and that is why he is desperately holding on whilst turning himself into a total embarrassment. Meanwhile I suspect others are right in that the board is not 100% behind Wengo. So it continues. What will erode Josh's support I'd guess is a continuing dismal run as at some point at least one of the Kronke's is going to realise He has totally lost it.

  17. Nugssy

    Apr 03, 2017, 19:06 #100209

    He could end all the uncertainty surrounding his future by announcing his intentions but then he loves the hype and attention the will he won't he scenario creates! It's all about him and that's just what the arrogant egotistical dictator that is Arsene wenger loves! It's all about me!

  18. Paulward

    Apr 03, 2017, 18:41 #100208

    Must be something going on at boardroom level, because if they all wanted Wenger to stay there would have been a statement to that effect by now.Personally I think the press are all calling this wrong and that he will depart unless he can pinch 4 th place or win the cup, which looks extremely unlikely, especially if Koscielny is out long term. The atmosphere yesterday was not conducive to on field success and that is only going to worsen the longer Wenger stays, empty seats are becoming more noticeable and the bean counters will obviously notice the loss of CL revenue. On top of all this the playing staff look a mixture of the disinterested, the unhappy and the idle. Not looking good at all for Monsieur Weng.

  19. Alsace

    Apr 03, 2017, 18:13 #100207

    That's interesting Mr Leek? We? Those in the thrall of Mr Wenger? This is not the first time that we have been told what cannot be done. Most important that money flows to the protest group, because it gets right in Mr Wenger's face. Right where you don't want it. I went to a "do" at the Soul-less bowl once and for a brief second made eye contact with your hero. He was distinctly uncomfortable doing so, and this was 10 years ago. No matter how much you and your fellows hate Arsenal and its traditions, no matter how much you cling on to the manager, we will get rid of him. We will get rid of him because his continuous presence is an unsustainable and an obvious wrong. Some things are obviously wrong Mr Leek, like slavery, or cheating, or lack of professionalism or incompetence or cruelty, or self-centred self-indulgence, or greed, or idolatry. Your devotion to the manager has become a habit, without sense, without shame, without love of the club you claim to support. Roll on Wednesday. Lets see the same old losing game plan rolled out once more.

  20. jjetplane

    Apr 03, 2017, 18:05 #100206

    This club is so boring now it is hard to post on the subject. Only thing that interests me is did Theo give the Ostrich a big blanco when he was subbed? The idea that the favourite nephew no longer likes his 'uncle' is well the stuff of soaps and possibly the tipping point. Theo's next book to be 'My part in Wenkler's Downfall'. Over on Untold they ran a spoof (ho ****ing ho) on SK but really they praised the two bob Trumpist to the rafters. Evil ****ing site that. Thank **** for The Eagles hey hey hey leekie lad! Can Stan attach his meta boot to the Ostrich's neck anytime soon. I think we know that story. Total Zaha land. Eagle Ultras alright too and listening to those Chelsea fans crying is just football gold. If they implode now - that would be a giggle. Even funnier if Everton sail past Arsene FC. And as for Moyes - ginge minge.

  21. mbg

    Apr 03, 2017, 17:59 #100205

    The old fraud is telling those who will listen and believe, wait for it, this draw (yes a scrappy non defending draw) has stopped the rot and will build confidence and a turning point, and this gobbledegook gem, a catalyst for improved self belief, LOL, HO HO TEE HEE, you really couldn't make it up, this old good for f*****g nothing fool is completely gone now, in cuckoo land, it really is time for medication and treatment, would someone please put him and us out of our misery and do the right thing. wenger out now.

  22. Leek fc

    Apr 03, 2017, 17:55 #100204

    Alsace. Now I fear that the WOB's are getting a bit carried away. Most of this on here is speculation and letting the mind drift away. "Large groups of people protesting on match day" 200 ain't a lot in perspective. Anything you can do, we can do better.

  23. TonyEvans

    Apr 03, 2017, 17:51 #100203

    Completely and utterly tired of the never ending will he won't he Wenger saga. Desperately disappointed we weren't stuffed out of sight by City, but at least we didn't win to give Wenger a boost. I don't care about anything else connected with Arsenal apart from getting rid of that Gallic parasite. I want to get back to being right behind my team, and that is not going to happen during this ridiculous waiting game we are all having to suffer.

  24. jeff wright

    Apr 03, 2017, 16:37 #100202

    I personally doubt that the snake oil salesman wields much if any power at all at AFC he is just Syrupy's stooge so if he his making claims regarding a change of direction from Wengo's yawn inducing failed policies then he must have Syrupy's backing. According to the Sky reporter who was on giving his comments from outside the stadium before the game the new contract that has been offered to Wengo contains these new changes that Syrupy and co want put in place and old has been Arsene will have to agree to them if he signs up for another two years .Henry said he couldnt see that occurring because Wengo demands total control over everything. We know that is true but anything else is a matter for conjecture and it might all be just a ploy to buy time in the hope that results improve and the new contract will then be signed by Wengo with little or no changes at all. There was no sign yesterday that Wengo had learned anything from his past mistakes with all of his old failings on parade and the big problem with this is that control freak Wengo doesn't actually believe that HE ever makes any mistakes ! So he doesn't see any reason to change anything. You couldn't make it up

  25. Alsace

    Apr 03, 2017, 16:27 #100201

    Right, I've read all of this stuff. Kevin's article is excellent and the responses thoughtful and informative. Assuming that Sir French Fries and Sr Gazidis are with us, we have two certain courses of action. We need to support the protest movement with money and bodies on match days. Secondly we need to hammer away at the Manager and the team. There are now very obviously some members of the team who are totally disgruntled and want the manager out. Time to start scoring unfortunate own goals. Time to start doing sweet FA until being replaced with other players doing nothing on the pitch while bucketloads of goals go in at the wrong end. Losing games and increased fan protests will get the message to Wenger. Go and go now. If that happens then it doesn't matter how honeyed the words of the proprietors are to Wenger on the telephone, now does it ? Let's see how Arsenal play when only Stan and Josh are prepared to play for the team. Lastly, just step back and think about this. There are large groups of people spending each match day protesting the need for removal of the Manager. Are there, one wonders idly, any circumstances in which Our Great and Glorious Leader will perceive that he should go of his own volition. Is it the case that he has absolutely no perception of the damage that his intransigence is causing? Would he look at an entire stadium full of "Wenger Out" banners and conclude that they really said " Wenger we love you"? I fear that could be the case. In exactly the same way that we had no idea until this article that some of the board might be with us, have any of us considered the possibility of some real mental health issues being in play here?

  26. Bard

    Apr 03, 2017, 15:45 #100200

    Wow Kev dysfunctional or what. Sounds a bit like our defence. All fur coat and no knickers. Looks like one big mess to me. My view is that this might be an opportunity to get rid of Stan. Not sure he would want a prolonged period of aggro of the kind Liverpool fans dished out to Hicks and co. While we are split over Wenger we are more likely to unite against Stan. Its not good for the brand to have such a potential rebellion on his hands. Anyway we live in hope. If what you say has legs then it tells you all you need to know about how out of touch the owners are.

  27. The Man From UNCLE

    Apr 03, 2017, 14:27 #100199

    We got a draw because they couldn't defend two corners. Who cares anymore anyway, whether we make top four or not. Xhaka - quite possibly the worst Arsenal player ever. A DM who can neither defend or tackle.

  28. Herd

    Apr 03, 2017, 14:23 #100198

    Ed they were at Eton together ,PHW was probably Keswicks fag,they were at Hambros together and are close . Hillwood got him on to the board for sure hence my comments . Whilst I do not know for sure about PHW mental state I do know that neither he or Keswick would rock the boat. What I do know and have known since the 90's for a nailed on fact ,is that there is a deal / agreement call it what you want that the shares sold by Hillwood CANNOT be used to vote against him which in effect makes him still rather powerful however having embraced Kroenke I cant see them fighting in public or anywhere else. One thing is for sure for Gazidis to make his play he must think he can carry the board !

  29. gooner.ed

    Apr 03, 2017, 14:13 #100197

    Herd - Shares, once sold, do not have any caveats, and boards of directors, in theory, are only relevant to shareholders when time comes to vote them in and out. Granted, that may not be the case at Arsenal, but trust me, PHW is completely out of the picture now. Can certainly accept Keswick was brought onto the board through association with PHW, but he is his own man and on the board can vote how he wishes. Whether or not that is worth toffee is a separate issue, but PHW is very much history now.

  30. GoonerGoal

    Apr 03, 2017, 14:06 #100196

    Does anybody really know what time it is? Does anybody really care? WENGER OUT! GAZIDIS OUT! KROENKE OUT! VIVE LA REVOLUTION!

  31. mbg

    Apr 03, 2017, 14:06 #100195

    I've seen better school boy defending, you could have drove a fooking truck through it yesterday, and what does TLSOE do when the inevitable happens ? throws down his water (luke warm)bottle in a tantrum (and the totem pole with a hat bould ? he mumbles f*****g hell just to please wenger)as if it shouldn't have, how could this happen, what a f*****g fraud he hasn't a f*****g clue. we want wenger out now.

  32. Herd

    Apr 03, 2017, 14:03 #100194

    Sorry Ed Keswick was brought in by Peter and is his man . Hillwood is still relevant because despite selling most of his shares and thus Ownership there is a caveat in every share that had his name on it that says it cannot be used to vote against him. If he and the Kroenke are on the same page its irrelevant what the others think ! Thus Keswick is indeed Hillwoods proxy !

  33. markymark

    Apr 03, 2017, 14:03 #100193

    Leek the Squeak:- this is a perfect time for a riposte. With your lightning whit and fingers on the AKB bell end.... Sorry I meant pulse it should be a simple task to out do Perry's ramblings. Here's an example title to help you, ' Wenger is a Winner because.....'

  34. Time for change

    Apr 03, 2017, 13:43 #100192

    We won't stop until you're gone. Kronke's a parasite.

  35. mbg

    Apr 03, 2017, 13:31 #100191

    Did you see/notice the celebration (or lack of one)for wally's goal, proof if any was needed something seriously wrong there, and we all know what/who. Go now wenger you washed up old dish cloth. wenger out now.

  36. Mike1

    Apr 03, 2017, 13:24 #100190

    Interesting views Kev and something I was told in the ground yesterday adds some more fuel to the fire. Apparently Sir Chips has said to two different cab drivers in recent weeks that "the Americans (presumably Stan and Josh) aren't listening". Hmmm...

  37. Exeter Gunner

    Apr 03, 2017, 13:21 #100189

    Who knows, but another possible scenario could be: Wenger is far more powerful than the whole board combined. They are just figureheads, to keep up the façade of a conventionally run club. Kroenke is the distant owner, unconcerned so long as the bottom line looks okay. Wenger runs the UK arm of his sports franchises for him. The contracts themselves are a façade, a sham, again designed to give the impression the manager has some sort of accountability. What in fact Wenger is, is a CEO for life. However, what no one at the club anticipated was this season going so very badly when they have one of these contract formalities to go through at the end of it. So now you have this desperate PR about 'mutual decisions' and 'reinventing himself' and sporting directors and long term views. All empty words, desperate guff to try and maintain the façade this is still an enterprise with hierarchies and lines of accountability focused on sporting achievement, when it is anything but.

  38. SPARKSY

    Apr 03, 2017, 13:16 #100188

    That scenario is very possible. It certainly seems that all is not right in the boardroom. I did think that maybe Wenger has told teh board he wants to stay and continue as normal with full control but that the board sees it differently, whereby they want a change of backroom staff and in the overall set up and that this is what is causing the impasse. Whichever way WENGER OUT!

  39. gooner.ed

    Apr 03, 2017, 13:09 #100187

    Herd - Point of order. Keswick was a director on the board independent of PHW. When PHW got too ill to continue, he stepped down as chairman and Keswick replaced him. He isn't a proxy. PHWs views are an irrelevance now as he is no longer on the board. Just clearing that up. As to the truth of Keswick's views, who can say, although he refused to back the manager when buttonholed by the Sky Sports last week as I understand. So who knows?

  40. Herd

    Apr 03, 2017, 13:05 #100186

    Sir Chips Keswick is Hillwoods proxy on the board and thus is Wenger in full stop. With Kroenke still Wenger in the Position of the others is irrelevant they either stick with it or leave ! Ivan is showing his hand and he must think that Kroenke Junior is on his side and that he can bring daddy with him or he wouldn't be stirring things behind the scenes !