Commitment Plus Fortune = Final

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Commitment Plus Fortune = Final


Well where on earth did that come from? The defensive resilience, the commitment, the determination. Where has this been for 90% of the season? So the players do have it in them. The next question is why the hell didn’t we see any of this against the likes of West Brom and Crystal Palace? Do we put it down to the new formation? The manager telling the players he is here for another two years so if you want to remain in my well-rewarded squad, you’d better start performing or it’s a case of #NoNewContract for you, sonny? Who knows?

The margins between success and failure can be narrow and let’s not pretend the Gunners have not enjoyed fortune in the cup in recent years, especially in the draw, and at Wembley yesterday, Lady Luck was wearing a red and white shirt. City hit the woodwork twice, had a good goal disallowed due to a linesman’s error, lost David Silva to injury in the first half and really should have equalized in the break that led to Fabian Delph’s shot being deflected by Hector Bellerin.

Still, it’s goals that count, and Arsenal’s came from the two players that combined on the left hand side of the team’s 3-4-3 formation, Monreal and Sanchez. There were some excellent performances from all of the back three, especially Holding and Gabriel, and both wing backs. Aaron Ramsey, though guilty for the loss of possession that led to City’s goal, was otherwise far better than we have seen him for an long time. The goal did raise question marks about the decision making of Petr Cech, and there seems a good case for the club to invest in a new keeper this summer, as he has not enjoyed his best of seasons.

Anyway, after a goalless first half in which Arsenal seemed content to give City possession, the game sprang into life after the interval. Wenger’s team pressed higher up the pitch and City were on the backfoot, their goal a breakaway. After that, for once the team did not buckle and worked their way back into the game thanks to a fantastic cross from the Ox that was met brilliantly by Monreal doing exactly what a wing back needs to. It was encouraging to see him play so well after much speculation that his best was a distant memory.

Olivier Giroud was one player who did not have a good match, and Arsenal looked much better when he was removed for Danny Welbeck. The team had more speed and movement and City’s defence struggled to cope with it. At the other end, they hit the woodwork twice and you got the feeling Arsenal’s name might be on the cup.

Extra time saw Sanchez net the winner after Koscielny headed a corner back across goal, Welbeck could not connect properly and the Chilean stabbed it home. Cue ecstasy in the red and white half of Wembley. They held on, although there could have been more goals at either end.

So a good afternoon, and something to look forward to at the end of the season. It shouldn’t change the bigger picture. If Arsene Wenger does win a record breaking seventh FA Cup, he should use it as the opportunity to step down on a high. In truth, it was a close game that Arsenal won purely because at the key moments, their finishing came good.

I am certain we will see the new formation used for the remaining seven Premier League matches, where Arsenal can afford to drop very few points if they are to have any hope of getting into the Champions League next season. But, the game is about trophies. Give me an FA Cup and a Europa League next season over a fourth place and a last 16 exit next March. The top four does not matter until Arsenal have a manager who can take on the best over two legs. I’ve seen too many false dawns under Arsene to be kidded by this one.

Let’s hope that the team play with equal determination in the final and end a season that has seen so many bad moments on a high.

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  1. mbg

    Apr 26, 2017, 14:14 #100865

    Gaz, your right mate, TOF would/will just love that, fans like us the old guard if you like taking a step back or giving up leaving him to it, the final piece of air brushing out of history from this nasty piece of work, I urge you don't do it as you say it's what he wants and will love to see having the whole stage to himself then, fight on you and a lot of us have come this far see it out now. wenger out.

  2. Gaz

    Apr 25, 2017, 20:55 #100855

    In hindsight though Ron the only problem with me taking a step back is the thought both Wenger and the Club were banking on this happening! That's a really annoying thought if truth be known but something I'll have to live with. Guess that's why Wenger's on £8m a year and I'm in job I ****ing hate right now! :-)

  3. mbg

    Apr 25, 2017, 15:47 #100847

    Tony Evans, indeed, did you see the smirk and grin on his ugly mug when the journo put the question to him after the semi ? how he's fooking loving all this speculation and keeping us all in the dark and feeding us b******t, and others have the gall to say they still respect him ? more fools them. We want wenger out.

  4. Gaz

    Apr 25, 2017, 14:58 #100842

    Hi Ron. I'm hearing you fella. Been giving it a lot of thought recently and my hatred towards Wenger and the Club has gotten out of control. Time to take a step back from it all and at least try to enjoy the odd moment with no conditions. Must admit I was feeling pretty bad before the 2015 cup final but watching the game at the emirates with a beer and good company made it a great day out.

  5. jeff wright

    Apr 25, 2017, 12:23 #100833

    Smoking Jack and Wengo are to discuss Jack's future shortly regarding a new contract.So this would indicate that whatever the results are in what remains of this season that Wenger is staying put.The league will be finished before the Cup Final and Stan is not going to fire old Clueless if he fails to win another FA Cup .If Wenger survives not winning his 4th place trophy that his whole career at AFC post Highbury has been based on then he will survive anything .I never bought into the claims that winning the cup against Hull saved Wengo's hide either.Wenger was under more pressure to win the semi against City than he is to beat Chelsea in the final. He needed this latest final to help cover up his poor management regarding Prem results that will see the spuds finish ahead of us and to help pay for their new stadium debts with a Champions League place while Wengo takes us into the Thursday night Ropey. The tete a tete v the spuds at the lane of pain should be interesting .I have a suspicion that our little technicians will down tools now that the 4th place trophy has been the latest one that Wengo has deemed not to be important .It only seems like yesterday that he was saying that about the FA Cup! Sorry but I just can't take this clown seriously. I don't think that he will beat Chelsea he rarely ever does and I just see this whole FA Cup malarkey as being more smoke and mirrors to help keep Wengo, the ultimate control freak, in his well paid comfy zone job for another two yawn inducing years .It wouldn't surprise me if he awarded Wilshere a new lucrative contract to celebrate it .You couldn't make it up.

  6. Yes its Ron

    Apr 25, 2017, 11:12 #100828

    Hi Gaz - thats where i am with it all now. The Wenger debates finished, whatever happens, happens. Enjoy the FAC as llong as you can. Dont let 'the debate' take that away from you matey. F--k the rest of it all. Its out of our hands, the Club know that and dont care too much. Im not totally bothered about the outcome of the NLD even and i never once before in my lifetime thought i'd ever say that!

  7. Gaz

    Apr 25, 2017, 10:48 #100826

    Whilst I realise everything is pointing to Wenger staying regardless of results until any such announcement is made I'm hoping results will still force him to leave. Hate feeling this way but I have to hope for this option hence I want us to lose whenever we play as I feel it's the only way we'll rid ourselves of him. That said if he came out tomorrow and said he was staying regardless then whilst initially I'd be devastated I guess in time I'd shrug my shoulders and accept the situation. That doesn't mean I'd be backing him again-hell no-nor would it mean my interest would return. What it means is that I'd step away from it all but wouldn't care one way or another about results any more. Not a perfect world but at least the anger and frustration I feel right now will be gone and I'll perhaps even console myself by looking forward to the build up to him leaving. Mind you there is a bugging feeling inside me that he'll decide his own replacement which means his influence on the Club will never be far away. I also sense Arsenal will always be seen as his Club now and the clean break from him that I was hoping for won't ever happen now.

  8. TonyEvans

    Apr 25, 2017, 10:42 #100824

    Equaliser - I fully understand where you are coming from and up to a point feel exactly the same way. I just don't, however much I loath Wenger and the Arsenal board for the contemptuous way they are treating supporters, feel I can watch an FA Cup final and not want Arsenal to win, especially as I am certain Wenger is staying whatever the result.

  9. jeff wright

    Apr 25, 2017, 10:08 #100823

    Cech is at it again trying to air brush the annual Prem collapse without a shot being fired in anger out of history and the usual humiliating defeat first knock out round in the Champions League. After a rather fortuitous run of easy draws in the FA Cup and a very lucky win over City in the semi-final everything has now according to the ex-chav GK been put to rights by Wengo reaching another FA Cup final .The team is not made up of perennial bottlers as many claim according to Cech but instead actually full of leaders with commitment ! Someone will be claiming that Wengo thought up playing three center backs in defence next ! You couldn't make it up.

  10. equalizer

    Apr 25, 2017, 9:22 #100820

    @Tony Evans If AFC show some respect for it's fans (customers to them) and make an announcement regarding the managers future, I'll be fully behind them for the cup final. However if they fail to do so I sincerely hope that the Arsene FC are demoralised at Wembley, humiliated. This would perhaps wipe that arrogant smirk of his mush. And I believe that is a distinct possibility given the desire of this Chelsea side couples with the lack of any leadership at Arsene FC and fragility that Wenger has instilled in this side. It's not Hull City he's facing this time.

  11. TonyEvans

    Apr 25, 2017, 8:55 #100819

    Regarding the FA Cup I am firmly with Ron in that I still love the competition. I fully accept that playing the semi-finals at Wembley has taken the gloss off of the final and that in the past some managers have (mistakenly in my book) not given the competition the respect it deserves. Even so I think most fans still love the cup, especially older supporters like me who can remember the days when it was a magical feeling to see your team in the final, and it will always have a special place in my heart.

  12. TonyEvans

    Apr 25, 2017, 8:44 #100818

    I just wish Arsenal would clarify their position on Wenger's future right now. If he is signing on for two more years then so be it - I'll be disappointed but at least I can finally put to bed that tiny bit of hope I have left that he will finally do the decent thing and p*ss off! Once that last bit of hope has been extinguished that will be it for me until Wenger leaves. The only positive spin I can put on the whole sorry situation that Wenger has presided over, these last ten years or so, for me personally is that I can now watch an Arsenal match (when I can be bothered) without the awful nervous tension I used to suffer in spades! A nice relaxing cup final to look forward to now where I hope we win, but if we don't we don't! That's what I am thinking anyway, but it will be interesting to see if I am still feeling that way if Arsenal are clinging on to a one goal lead with 5 minutes to go!

  13. markymark

    Apr 25, 2017, 7:45 #100817

    Leek the Squeak is back? Back from where? A: Drunk hostel - Now reportedly sober; B: Out on bail after being caught punching knickers from washing lines; C: Released back after a spell in community care after suffering delusions that Wenger is Jesus. My money is on C!

  14. mbg

    Apr 24, 2017, 23:55 #100816

    Some cracking posts from those of you/us who know better, and who aren't getting carried away because of one decent win (you all know who you are)one decent win and the juices are flowing, not a word of decent, I predicted it myself a week or so ago, arsene knows ? he certainly knows the fans alright, the soft Arsenal gooner pussies (no wonder he always had a smirk on his face)he knew it was only going to take one decent win, he knew exactly how they'd/we'd react, so easily manipulated no f*****g wonder he treats us like mugs, he must be laughing his f*****g head off. wenger out now.

  15. KC38

    Apr 24, 2017, 22:57 #100815

    I don't believe one result changes anything and yes I worry that winning the fa cup is an excuse for Wenger to stay. But I'm a Gooner and it's bloody hard to watch your team in an fa cup semi and not want a victory, and a good one at that bar Giroud. It's likely he will stay anyway and at that point I have to accept and support. The dream is a final victory a good bye and hello Mr Allegri. It is a sad and confusing time at the moment but it was a good performance for once.

  16. Gaz

    Apr 24, 2017, 21:12 #100814

    You're right EG, we'll never be rid of Wenger because however bad it gets it only takes the one good result to turn opinions around again. I mean how can another season of PL and CL failure somehow be overshadowed by us reaching a final where we've beaten two non league sides, Preston and a half strength Southampton. Ok we beat City but in all honesty they're the one big Club I usually feel confident of beating and defensively they are piss poor. Annoyingly it's just seems so perfect that his last game should be chelsea where he could (if we win) get the send off even the likes of us could enjoy. Sadly we all know the drill and he'll use it as an excuse to stay on and we'll go through the same thing next year. Not with me as I'll be giving up proper but I'll dip in every now and again to remind myself of just how gullible a large proportion of our fan base is. We were told the 2014 cup win would be the springboard to greater success. Three years later nothing has changed apart from our league position. So very depressing.

  17. Leek fc

    Apr 24, 2017, 19:44 #100813

    The Leek is back and the demos have ceased. Coincidence or not. !?!?!?

  18. mbg

    Apr 24, 2017, 19:44 #100812

    Tony Evans, you could be right, what a time for an announcement, I can't see TOF waiting for a result in the Final far far to risky for the old weasel, he's to much of a coward, after all he has all the AKB waners, those who think his time is up but still love and respect him, all those who came over to the other side, those who fell off the fence, all back on side again, all back on board, all back believing again, after just one decent win, Sad (no wonder he was fooking smirking) and of course his spin department in full flow doing it's job, no better time alright, unless he has decided to go either way. wenger out.

  19. Leek fc

    Apr 24, 2017, 19:31 #100811

    Great to see the plastics dismissing everything yesterday stood for. Take it or leave it. The Etihad isn't far for most of you to travel eh if you feel that the better manager is Pep. WENGER MUST STAY.

  20. CORNISH GOONER

    Apr 24, 2017, 19:29 #100810

    A good & surprising win which showed we have some decent players in the squad - absence of Le Tippy Tappy too, which suggested to me that the players sorted issues out for themselves & became a proper team for the day There is something there for a proper manager to build on for sure. Anyway, what the hell - isn't it nice to have Der Leekmeister back, happy again & still spouting delusional bollocks?

  21. jjetplane

    Apr 24, 2017, 18:50 #100809

    Was a decent performance though thought City seemed underwhelmed though they hit the woodwork and had a goal unfairly not given. That will be one that will not feature on an Untold referee report for global saddoes. Anyway, must say the Chav/Totts game was much more compelling and I loved every bit of it. But on to bigger football matters and none are bigger than Messiiiiiiii! Proved again he is the best and premature doubts on Barca are laughable. Ronnie's face was a picture and here's hoping Athletico do further damage. Oh yeah, Wenger .... bollox - could not give a **** either way. Stay go stay go - the club is dead for now and the selfie crowd can keep them.

  22. jeff wright

    Apr 24, 2017, 18:40 #100808

    He just got lucky mbg, I have to smile though when you hear some praising him for using a back 3 that he was forced into doing and not because some sort of inspired bolt of lightening tactical nous had suddenly hit him .I can just picture players and Bould pleading with the crazed clown to try and tighten things up at the back.As I said before though I can't see any great change in the defence .Wengo just got lucky.

  23. mbg

    Apr 24, 2017, 18:28 #100807

    jw, yes did you see him wandering about at the intervals before and during extra time ? hands on hips walking towards one player then turning away, then towards another and turning away again, back and forward to the side lines speaking to no one like someone with behavioural problems, he hadn't a fooking clue what to do, what to say, how to react, how to get the players going, it was all completely Alien to him completely beyond him he hadn't a fooking clue how to handle it, God knows what would have happened if it had went to pens, a complete mental and nervous breakdown would be my guess. Well done who ever gave those talks and got the players up to it. wenger out.

  24. Exeter Gunner

    Apr 24, 2017, 17:17 #100806

    This is why we will never be rid of Wenger. The bar is set so very low for him. The 10-2, the numerous humiliations of an awful season all wiped out by a single result. His players praised to the heavens for showing 'commitment', which should be a given in every game. Wenger praised to the heavens for using a back 3 in sheer desperation and getting lucky with it. A competition that Wenger and his followers treated with disdain for years... now just being in the final is apparently enough to justify years more of him. I'm with the more clear-minded on here that see that yesterday was bad news for the longer term future of the club.

  25. jeff wright

    Apr 24, 2017, 17:14 #100805

    Hi Ron, leaving aside the FA Cup, the question is has Wengo been studying Shakespeare lately, to be or not to be is the question ,with a reality check never long in arriving for Wengo and the likes of Rambo Ramsey. When in their wisdom the perennial flops have decided that it was all just down to bad luck and the slings and arrows of adversity when in reality the non-title tilts and humiliating Wexits from Europe at the first whiff of gun powder are actually just the usual results every season under Wengo. You couldn't make it up.

  26. Gaz

    Apr 24, 2017, 16:57 #100804

    Nobody denies that this bunch of very good players are able to put in the odd very good performance. After10 years though Wenger should only be judged on his overall record and in the two MAIN competitions of importance his record is awful.

  27. Yes its Ron

    Apr 24, 2017, 16:37 #100802

    Hi Jeff - agree mate the old trophy isnt whats it was back in the 60s 70s and 80s of course. Footie would be pretty sad though if it was nothing but the PL gravy train as i see it anyway. The top clubs started the devaluation of it but all clubs are tainted now. All Clubs need luck to win it though. We had a couple of breaks yesterday. Cant see why the lino gets it in the neck though. It needed pundits to check that ball out before they thought it hadnt crossed the bye line. If he saw the ball arc outwards he was right to call it. Ya Ya Toure ought to shut up about it. I honestly do nt think the Cup has any bearing on the Wengs decision now or the Clubs, hence may as well enjoy it. As i say i reckon Chelsea are ripe for a bit of payback for the misery theyve heaped on us this last 12 years. Stopping an SW6 Double is good enough for me to salvage something from an abysmal season.

  28. jeff wright

    Apr 24, 2017, 16:28 #100801

    GR, my experience of AKB's is that Arsene and his well being are their first priority.That's why some of them physically assault other supporters who dare to criticize Wenger. Some probably did celebrate for the reasons that you give but I stick with my view that the majority of AKB's were relieved that Wenger did not lose due to his precarious position regarding him struggling to win his 4th place trophy.The one that he said was the first one to be won in his order of priority.As I said anyway unless he beats Chelsea what does it all mean because no one likes losing in a cup final. Even Ivan the liar will have trouble trying to make that look like a success !

  29. TonyEvans

    Apr 24, 2017, 16:18 #100800

    Hi Gaz - it would be great if Wenger has announced the FA Cup final is his last game in charge before the 27th May. Bet he won't though and I am expecting an announcement that he is staying, on the back of the semi final win, any day now. If not now then in the week leading up to the final maybe.

  30. Roy

    Apr 24, 2017, 16:13 #100799

    Yes Gaz, Tony and Cheltenham, what a day that would be if we somehow manage to beat the despicable Chavs, then Wenger announces he's stepping down. I think I might be tempted to have a party ! The beers though are firmly on ice as I won't be holding my breath that that perfect scenario comes to pass ! Great to see some fight yesterday, albeit mixed with a bit of good fortune. And yes Kev, you are completely spot on when you say that the top 4 is irrelevant until we have a manager who can take on the best over two legs. Never a truer word spoken, couldn't have put it better myself. @NoNewContract #wengerout

  31. GoonerRon

    Apr 24, 2017, 16:10 #100798

    Oh come on Jeff, you honestly think the MAIN reason the supporters enjoyed the the win yesterday was relief for Wenger? Jeez. It wasn't that we came from behind to win the game against a big team to go within one game of another trophy? I'm not as anti-Wenger as some but I can categorically say that in the 120 minutes I not for one second considered the impact of a win on Wenger.

  32. jeff wright

    Apr 24, 2017, 16:00 #100797

    I'll ask 'em GR if we lose to Chelsea! Anyway I know what Wengo would prefer to win if given a choice between 4th place in the Prem or winning the FA Cup that only provides a place in the Ropey next season. Circumstances yesterday, with great relief for Wengo being the main one, made it a great win for the supporters most of whom are Wenger followers anyway ,but the FA Cup is not what it was and trying to pretend otherwise is not going to change that fact.

  33. GSPM

    Apr 24, 2017, 15:59 #100796

    Good win, happy for fans & players. Basically this season's FA cup for us is 2 games, semi & final ( prev rounds were easy enough) but fundamentally it changes nothing, Wenger still clueless and well past his best , lets not get carried away,as one win does not a season make . Leeky when you've stopped wetting yourself, wake up and see the reality . Wenger Out !!!!

  34. GoonerRon

    Apr 24, 2017, 15:50 #100795

    @ Jeff - ask the 35,000 Gooners at Wembley yesterday if the FA Cup is great or not.

  35. jeff wright

    Apr 24, 2017, 15:14 #100794

    Hi Ron, the FA Cup used to be great before the likes of Wenger and Sir Ferguson devalued it for financial reasons of their own.It's not great now though and until the semi's are played at league grounds again and clubs takeb it more seriously it never will be. Wenger being the hypocrite that he is changed tack on the FA Cup, which for 10 years he had claimed was not worth bothering with, due to him not being up to winning any top trophies with his weak management and failed policies . Conte rested some of his starting eleven for the first half with tomorrow night's Prem game prioritized but he still prevailed rather easily in my view over the spuds. Who as usual chocked on their own hype when the chance for for glory was there . According to them that's what the game is all about .So they can suck that up then ! I thought that Wenger was very fortunate yesterday and I can't really see him beating Conte if all things are equal .Of course I can't rule out the possibility that Wengo might beat the Italian if he gets some luck again to help him but luck is a transient thing and our old clueless has had more than his fair share of it in the FA Cup for sometime now what with easy ties against non-league opponents and with the match officials giving him an helping hand yesterday. It will be interesting to see what spin is put on Wengo failing to win his top 4 trophy he will certainly need the FA Cup to help to try and divert attention away from that but if he fails to win it then it will be looked on as being a double whammy of disaster. Wengo will have a hard job of explaining that away.

  36. mbg

    Apr 24, 2017, 14:59 #100793

    Well done to whoever came up with the tactics, formation, and took the team talks yesterday, have we been wrong about you bouldy ? Or was George Graham secretly brought in through the kitchen for a team meeting before wenger got out of bed, well done again bouldy. wenger out.

  37. Leek fc

    Apr 24, 2017, 14:52 #100792

    Lots of posts on here with gritted teeth. Mr Wenger has spoiled a lot of people's weekends. Unlucky fellas. 2 more years of the great man awaits.

  38. mbg

    Apr 24, 2017, 13:43 #100791

    And another thing amidst all the ejaculating into the Kalvin Kleins by some, the get in there's, the fist pumping, the high fives, the whooping, the selfies and the throwing shirts into the fans, We've won f**k all yet. wenger out,

  39. Yes its Ron

    Apr 24, 2017, 13:30 #100790

    lads, best think i find is to mentally separate the FAC from the rest of an underwhelming Season. Otherwise yr punishing yourselves for no reason. After all, its not us whove created the Clubs issues and problems so why deny yselves some pleasure because e of yr views?. Its a great Tournie i reckon.As redshirts rightly says, win or lose yesterday after fighting hard would have been a decent afternoon. I honestly think we can take Chelsea and am predicting 2-1 again. I didnt think Chelsea were great v Spurs. It was a case once more of Spurs not being totally convinced they could beat Chelsea. Little real belief was evident. If we go for it and get at them as we did Man C theres no reason why we cant win the Cup. It was good to see a few of our players getting nasty for once, leaving a foot in here and there, a few 'tactical' fouls in areas where it was safe to break down Citys momentum. Chelsea are good. They're not unbeatable. We ll need more of the same to beat them.

  40. mbg

    Apr 24, 2017, 13:28 #100789

    Commitment ?? where was it before now ? where was it when we were being humiliated and embarrassed and being beaten and stuffed ? This was a semi and result for the fans, the long suffering fans may I add, the fans nobody else, they deserved it the players ? certainly not they don't deserve to be in a final after the majority of their displays, their pathetic and embarrassing attempts at being footballers over the season and a lot of others, and the Laughing Stock Of Europe Himself ? absolutely not, if there's one manager in the Country who doesn't deserve to be at Wembley in a Final (he didn't deserve the semi)it's him after all the embarrassments and humiliations he has caused and brought on this club this season alone, prancing around Wembley grinning and smirking, Pathetic it'd make you vomit. We want wenger out we want wenger out.

  41. Cheltenham Gunner

    Apr 24, 2017, 13:14 #100788

    Yes Gaz, that's how I feel. Watching it in a pub with my partner who also supports Arsenal was a weird experience. We were almost watching it as neutrals. Unless we perform a 2005 type miracle cannot see how we are going to beat Chelski I am sure a lot of like-minded supporters would actually care about the result, if Wenger announced the final would be his swansong. Some chance eh!!

  42. Gaz

    Apr 24, 2017, 13:13 #100787

    Hi Tony. Yeah as usual we're on the same page which is why I'll probably watch the final too and really want us to win. Not sure why I feel this way. Guess I'm thinking about all those famous cup finals and wanting to be a part of it all regardless . Or it could be the fact I just want us to beat Chelsea! Either way I'll suspend hostilities for the day. Who knows, Wenger may have announced it's his last game as manager! Now that would change the landscape!

  43. jeff wright

    Apr 24, 2017, 13:10 #100786

    leek has never been to an Arsenal game in his life . He is just a sad Troll who posts on football forums to try and elicit responses to his inane rants . These rants only appear AFTER a win by Wenger. All a bit weird really.

  44. Redshirtwhitesleeves

    Apr 24, 2017, 13:09 #100785

    Wow that felt eerily like watching Arsenal yesterday! What a lovely change to see our players (minus the wet lettuce Ozil) battling, fighting, digging in, refusing to accept second best and dare I say it showing a bit of mental strength for once! Win or lose yesterday I would have been happy knowing that the team had fought their hearts out in the true Arsenal spirit. That's all I ever want and ask from them. Felt good to be proud of being a Gooner again, even if it's to be for one day only. That said, if they can do it in a one off game it only shames their pathetic efforts over the season even more. No coincidence for me either that the pathetic wally Walcott never made it onto the pitch- long may that continue. His all round cowardice spreads through the team and I doubt we would have won yesterday if he was involved. Thought Holding was absolutely fantastic again, I hope he stays in the side now, he looked calmed and assured and I'm very impressed with what I've seen of him this season. Best case scenario now is we win the cup and Wenger bows out on a high, here's hoping!

  45. markymark

    Apr 24, 2017, 13:02 #100784

    A good win an once again a Cup Final. The way the journos dressed this up it was back to the 70's with a manager being lauded for his cup success. Perhaps the Cup needed these two Semi's to build back some gloss. But surely the Semi's would be better at Old Trafford and Villa Park? I can see Wengo doing a 2005 stylee. Would think it is our only chance to defend, defend , defend and then when Conte brings on his attacking substitutions we bring on Wellbeck and Walcott as some form of counter punch. Notice Squeak is surprisingly not posting this morning, possibly head down toilet after his inane drunken rambling of yesterday. To think he didn't even leave his sofa to get that drunk!

  46. TonyEvans

    Apr 24, 2017, 13:01 #100783

    Wenger must be the luckiest manager ever. We get to the semi final beating Preston, Soton Reserves, Sutton and Lincoln, and then somehow put in a half decent, committed performance against City which was rewarded by lady luck shining on us once again. I didn't watch the game as (like Gaz) I just don't know where I am with Arsenal / Wenger at the moment, and can't fully enjoy winning with the spectre of Wenger staying never far from my my thoughts. Having said that now we have reached the final I will certainly be watching and behind the team (or the sofa) if all goes horribly wrong, which against Chelsea is more than likely.

  47. Gaz

    Apr 24, 2017, 12:39 #100782

    Decorating all weekend but took a break to watch the game. As soon as we scored our second I went back to the decorating as I knew we'd go on and win. Felt pretty lousy at not feeling remotely happy about it but that's where I am right now. For me the FA cup is a shadow of the competition it once was and a Club the size of ours should be aspiring to so much more. Sadly I just can't enjoy anything about the Club whilst Wenger's still around and I feel pretty lousy about that. Sometimes I think maybe I should just try and support the Club unconditionally so as to get enjoyment out of it all again but that ship sailed long ago. Weird thing was not watching the game felt quite relaxing and a total blanking of twitter meant I've not seen a load of tweets I know would frustrate and anger me in equal measures. I guess for me my love affair with the Club is dead or on hold until Wenger leaves. Hate feeling this way but there you go.

  48. equalizer

    Apr 24, 2017, 12:37 #100781

    Giving Wenger credit for changing his formation? Took him until 10 games before the end of the season after 10 losing seasons to act. Took Conte 10 games into his first season to act. Chelsea have got to be heavy odds on favourites to lift the double now.

  49. jeff wright

    Apr 24, 2017, 12:33 #100780

    It's the magic of the cup and all that malarkey that produced the unlikely win for Wengo .He looked like an old codger who had inadvertently wandered on to the pitch at the break before the extra-time that was due to be played down to the linesman ruling out a good City goal. So then once again Wengo ( yawn) enjoyed good fortune in a semi-final yet again. His record against Chelsea though is not a great one and it remains to be seen if Wengo wears a magic hat or a dunces one in the final .I thought that the 3 at the back was a flop again only that linesman getting it wrong and City hitting the woodwork a couple of times dressed the whole thing up as being a hard fought success. I would replace hard fought with desperation actually because it looked more like a case of desperation for Wengo than anything else. I can't see him winning his 4th place trophy that bird has flown. So it's all down to beating Chelsea in the cup final and this is really all about another face saver for Wengo who has flopped big time again in the Prem and in Europe where he has never won anything down to losing both of the cup finals that he contested. 21 years of playing in the FA Cup with 6 wins and another final to play is not - if taking account of the time factors involved compared with Mee and Graham's record in the FA Cup - the fantastic achievement that some claim that it is. Then again they would claim that - wouldn't they. However a reality check is needed here and the lack of making any league title tilt since 2004 and his truly appalling record in Europe are a better measure of Wengo's managerial abilities. Or a lack of them. Oh well we can look forward now to another two years of Wengo magic he might win two more FA Cups in that time !

  50. Yes its Ron

    Apr 24, 2017, 12:18 #100779

    SKG - Hi mate. Yes, i called it right for once !! It was good to see yesterday as you say. Its all i ever as from the team, to give their all for the shirt and put their bodies on the line to try and win a game and for a Coach to insist on it or to ship out those that dont want to do so. If after all of that, we dont win honours then, thats just something to live with and accept isnt it. We certainly haven't seen application like yesterday for a hell of time. Youre right, its asking for little. The FAC is always a nice diversion from everything else.

  51. jjetplane

    Apr 24, 2017, 11:24 #100776

    So Pep is on his first season and Wengo the tactical genius is in his 21st. Bit of luck and an inconsistent City and Arsene FC are back to ground zero. Cue Mesut getting 300t and the Ox offered 200t and Ramsay the same. Monreal/Ox to share captaincy and with Santi (myth has it he is better than Iniesta) hobbling back for next season all looks good for a real go at the PL while all the others fall by the wayside in the CL. Wengo to shrug his shoulders, smile and say I will stay but I need more power and more money as I am expanding by property portfolio. Cast back in time to Ray and Freddie doing it against the Chavs. A most enjoyable final and trip. It's Wengo's turn (again) to play bridesmaid while the Chavs pick up their double. With Utd eating into the top four the Europa is just about to be dressed up in the same fashion as the FA Cup is now for Wengo. A very handy trophy for the self-serving. Good to see Gooner Ron back but poor old Leekie must be feeling a tad unwell after yeaterday's giveaway rantings. Why do I feel we have already had the Cup Final and the Totts lost.

  52. Gunner Rob

    Apr 24, 2017, 11:18 #100775

    there was much talk back in 2014 of Wenger going out on a high. any chance this year should we WIN the final ?

  53. Mathews

    Apr 24, 2017, 11:07 #100774

    A win from nowhere, I am sure even Wenger may have never thought of this outcome, he looked up to heaven and thanked. This certainly should be it for Arsene, even if he doesnt pass the final Chelsea hurdle, he should quit. Credit to him in altering his defensive line-ups, and to players for stepping up, hope it isnt late although. Luck is favouring us, so lets be brave, go Gunners!

  54. Seven Kings Gooner1

    Apr 24, 2017, 11:06 #100773

    Ron: I think you called 2-1 to Arsenal, good shout mate. The players seemed to care yesterday and I think that is all we really want from them. I don't think Chelsea will be as kind or as unlucky as City but it would be a great if we could beat them. For moments in that game yesterday there was a real sense of team togetherness - not much to ask is it?

  55. RobG

    Apr 24, 2017, 10:36 #100772

    Disastrous frankly, for two reasons. Firstly, we will be hammered by Chelsea in the final if they play anything like they did against Spurs. More importantly it will simply prolong, or is likely to prolong, the Wenger agony and the attendant personality cult idiocy that goes with it. But good news for anyone opposed to the idea of our fourteenth league title. We have won the latter in every decade since the 1930s with the single exception of the 1960s. We have two goes left to ensure this decade is not the second.

  56. Time for change

    Apr 24, 2017, 10:30 #100771

    Great win. Still Wenger out.

  57. Alsace

    Apr 24, 2017, 10:25 #100770

    I'm sorry. His job is on the line so he makes a potentially successful tactical change which means that the defenders stay back and defend? He only does the right thing when he is forced to do so which is one of many thousands of reasons why he has to go. I'm glad everyone had a nice time but anyone who thinks a AFC cup win will result in OGL bowing out gracefully is deluding themselves. Getting our faces smashed in by Manch and Spurs and Chelsea is our only hope of seeing him walk, and that is all that matters. I can't enjoy myself at Arsenal again until he is gone.

  58. Yes its Ron

    Apr 24, 2017, 10:23 #100769

    Guts and desire and skill. Its been a while hasnt it! Well done lads and to Arsene too. They were a credit to the Club yesterday and were deserved winners.

  59. 1971 Gooner

    Apr 24, 2017, 10:23 #100768

    Yes, doesn't change the big picture but a day to enjoy nevertheless. And, at the risk of sounding like a Spurs fan the fact they went out in wonderfully Spursy fashion makes it even better. Early days, but Rob H. looked good when he came in at the start of the season and with some decent coaching, guidance and luck with fitness could be a fixture for many years to come.

  60. The Man From UNCLE

    Apr 24, 2017, 10:12 #100767

    What a win that was. Hugely enjoyable afternoon. That's more like the AFC we used to know and love.

  61. GoonerRon

    Apr 24, 2017, 10:09 #100766

    Really enjoyed the performance - great that we finally delivered against a big team in a big match and gives us some hope to cling on to for the rest of the season.

  62. Paulo75

    Apr 24, 2017, 10:05 #100765

    At last, it was a pleasure to watch such a committed, gutsy performance - its certainly been a long time coming. We definitely rode our luck but thought we deserved it overall. Gabriel, Monreal, Holding, AOC all outstanding I thought. Take Messi away and I'm not so sure Senor Guardiola is quite worthy of his reputation. Same again for the remainder of the season please.