Arsenal’s Pre-Season Could Be Thrown Into Turmoil

Possible Europa League qualifying round involvement may complicate travel plans



Arsenal’s Pre-Season Could Be Thrown Into Turmoil

Remaining Premier League games for Arsenal and Burnley


If Arsène Wenger fails to deliver the Europa League trophy in May, the chances of his remaining in post will be pretty slim. However, he may end up leaving a rather interesting legacy for his successor. This is because, going on recent form, there is a reasonable chance the Gunners might finish in 7th position in the Premier League. They have five fixtures remaining, and should beat West Ham on Sunday. However, points on the road at Man Utd, Leicester and Huddersfield are less certain. And the final home match this season sees them face Burnley, the side who could overhaul them to finish sixth. Sean Dyche’s team will not be on the beach by any stretch of the imagination and Wenger’s side will have three days previously played Atletico Madrid in the second leg of their Europa League semi-final.

So, sixth or seventh? Does it really matter? Seventh would only mean no European football next season if Southampton win the FA Cup. It’s a possibility, but one you’d get decent odds on. So if they do not, then both Burnley and Arsenal would make the Europa League.

However, here’s where it gets interesting. The 7th place team (or the sixth should the Saints win the cup) will have to play in the Europa League second qualifying round this summer. The dates for that are 26th July and 2nd August. The team finishing sixth goes straight into the group stage (again if Southampton end the season trophyless).

The leaked dates for the (financially lucrative) scheduled pre-season warm up matches are -
July 26 – vs Atletico Madrid, National Stadium (Singapore)
July 28 – vs Paris Saint-Germain, National Stadium (Singapore)
August 1 – vs Manchester City, Aviva Stadium (Dublin, Ireland)
August 4 – vs Valencia, Friends Arena (Stockholm, Sweden)

One assumes that these will not take place unless Arsenal simply decide the Europa League is a distraction they can afford to do without (financially) and put an under 23 team out for the 2nd qualifying round.

For the record, Burnley, two points behind Arsenal complete the current campaign with no European distraction, playing the following five matches – 19/4 – Chelsea (H) 22/4 – Stoke (A) 28/4 – Brighton (H) 6/5 – Arsenal (A) 13/5 – Bournemouth (H)

I reckon, forgetting the Arsenal game, they could get nine points from the other four matches.

Arsenal two points to the good, could win v West Ham and if they really had to, at Huddersfield. On recent away form Manchester United and Leicester look like defeats. So effectively, Arsenal probably need to beat Burnley at home to ensure they avoid having to take part in the qualifying rounds of next season’s Europa (there is an additional 3rd qualifying round as well, so four games in total before they would make the group stage).

So in brief, do not expect any confirmation of pre-season matches until the ‘battle for sixth place’ (!) is resolved. How times have changed, eh?

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  1. A Cornish Gooner

    Apr 20, 2018, 0:24 #108670

    Heigh ho, Heigh ho, Baddy my little chum. You seem to have progressed from a thick cut to an even thicker cut. Maybe I should call you Dopey. Once again you’ve got the wrong Cornish, whose posts are far more amusing than any of your pathetically unfunny posts. Could we please at least have some originality in your dire offerings. Eggs (not funny), MAYDUP (yes we get the joke, how very funny you are) and the Groucho Marx line about seeing through women (twice in the last four months) Why criticise markymark and mbg for their ‘What ifs’? Don’t you remember the Alex Steine article “What if…?” posted back in March 2014. I think it was over egged? Do you?

  2. markymark

    Apr 19, 2018, 23:40 #108669

    MBG - I’ve just re-read Badarse’s message to you it was part of a pair of oddly timed postings wasn’t it. I have to say the clunky England and your land is odd for someone supposedly of his political consciousness . Blood and Soil are the twin evils of fanatical right wingers. He takes a poke st your supposed politics yet goes into odd territory . This is not the first time I’ve had real suspicions about him. Recently myself and Exeter pulled back some of his comments where he randomly had a crack about Judaism . Strange man indeed but then I would say a Whack Job. Maybe Badarse’s brand of left wing political thought is that of Otto Strasser . It would explain a few things.

  3. markymark

    Apr 19, 2018, 23:22 #108668

    See Baddie I told you your whack job mate would drag you down. Undermines your high horse message to MBG doesn’t it. Just a tad?

  4. TOOAW

    Apr 19, 2018, 22:26 #108667

    Nark boy." How you do. I fecckin hait tha way peepl tree our graitest manager. He serves Betta. Oi tink tha hees the turd best thing to harpen to see Arse. Hind mbg and yasel." How's that Nark. You fool. Fella, son, geeza. You seriously need to get out more and try listening to Badarse. Interesting to hear TH14 gather his thoughts today on the Arsenal situation. 'Most clubs would love to have Arsenal's dilemma' .... if only the fickle bunch could see that too.

  5. mbg

    Apr 19, 2018, 21:16 #108665

    So the joke of the site reappears like the shop keeper in Mr Ben to get his arse spanked again (he must love pain, I guess we know where he's been the last couple of weeks and he's offended by pussies ?)to tell and lecture us all on where we're going and saying wrong, while all the time being great mates with a bigot and racist, no surprise there going by his last statement, green vegetable ? do you really think I think it's a green vegetable ? my land ? what do you mean by that ? I thought we'd heard the last of things like that people being told to go back to their own land and all that, is this a new way of putting it ? is that what's coming next ? wouldn't surprise me, you'll find my land as you call it is exactly the same as yours, providing you actually do live in Great Britain UK. So your an expert in goalkeeping now I see like everything else you claim to be, yea I bet you looked great in your Alf Garnett cap and long shorts, do you not realise by now nobody gives a dam what you think, what your opinion on anything is ? (and hasn't for quite a while) your a busted flush a joke, as markymark said earlier your full of material we could write posts and make jokes about you all night if we wished but your not even worth that, so jog on back to where ever site has sent you packing with a sore arse this time before some of us really start taking notice. We want wenger out.

  6. markymark

    Apr 19, 2018, 20:11 #108664

    Badarse - sometimes I enjoy radio 4 , we play classical music to go to sleep with and I download pod casts of ‘in our time’. Today I was also blasting the uncensored version of Snoop Dog’s next episode ( a bit old school but great fun ) so I like some highbrow and some modern accessible. The toad man writes in Mockney , nobody writes in mockney unless you’re pretending to be something you are not. A born and bred man from say Bermondsey is not going to litter his writing with fella , son , geezer etc . Even if he talks that way. It’s like trying to write in Broad Scouse. Your flirtation with ToOaW is like your cuddles with Jamee. It does you ultimately no good .

  7. Rippy

    Apr 19, 2018, 19:58 #108663

    Wow ... Wenger saying there isn’t a problem with the crowds at home games. It’s so sad he just looks and sounds more stupid and ridiculous everyday. What a shame it’s come down to this. The apathy around him is terrible. I wonder if he is actually mentally ill. It’s not nice to see him so pityfull and helpless. For gods sake some one make the decision and put him out of his misery.. it just looks cruel now . His a shadow of what he once was.

  8. markymark

    Apr 19, 2018, 18:30 #108662

    Ron / MBG I think looking back the game at Villa Park was such a shock to the system and a sign of the ultimate limitations of what was a fine Arsenal side. Fine margins though very fine margins . My general belief is that the sadly long dead esprit de corps was created under GG during the battle of Old Trafford and died during the game 49’ sulk. After that they killed us for years really .

  9. Badarse

    Apr 19, 2018, 17:08 #108661

    MAYDUP this is my first direct communique with you, despite your old-fashioned right wing bigotry shown in your use of the word 'pussies'. When I have played in goal in 5-a-sides or in training I am ready to bend and prepare to launch myself. A very naïve approach. I think Safe Hands did this. Had he stood erect and closed his eyes the ball would have hit him on the head in the same way mine and TOOAW's posts do you. Had we ousted them and gone on to win the FA Cup it would have dented their season and perhaps may have stopped them stealing the EC also. Then we'd have probably beaten them in the Community Shield, Arsene would have signed a 20 years extension, and Kroenke would have joined Greenpeace. That's a political environmental group we have in England, which I'm not sure you have in your land. It certainly isn't an advert for small, round, green vegetables.

  10. Yes its Ron

    Apr 19, 2018, 16:42 #108660

    mbg - agree on that re Seaman. He was at fault as much as the defenders who did look like keystone cops really as Giggs danced past them. Yr right too, DS hasnt ever been replaced. Lehmann wasnt up to his standard in my view. No where close.

  11. mbg

    Apr 19, 2018, 15:40 #108659

    markymark, Ron, yes think what would/could have happened if Dennis had scored that pen, it must have had a big impact on him as he never took another, although he never showed it, or sulked like some of our pussies did since. I actually blamed big Dave for the gigs goal at the time, although your right he should have been taken out long before he got the length, I appreciate gigs shot had power and was flying but Seaman seemed to be crouched to low at the time like you'd be if you were playing five a side with small goals giving him no time to stand up i still think if he'd stood big like Schmeichel surely would have he'd have saved it, but I never held anything against him like some/all of the second and third raters wenger has forced on us since, not one of them fit to clean big Daves boots, from the day Seamen left to this very day he has never been replaced, (like a hell of a lot of others of George Grahams era)it tells us all we need to know about the old fraud and what he's really like, but of course we already know that. We want wenger out.

  12. Badarse

    Apr 19, 2018, 13:26 #108658

    Nark, the logic in saying it wouldn't have happened but for missed penalties is like saying you might not be here but for a split condom; it's irrelevant as here you are, lowering the tone of the OG. Yes it's nice to reminisce about old players and old games, it's the same with you moaning and frothing about old hackneyed talking points, 'AW stay or go', it's futile chummy, but you find it fun. I also think your language is a little guttural, don't you? It's certainly a little bit grubby, methinks. Kind of lowers you a bit. Good old Arsenal. As TOOAW and I had you tied up in knots I promise to undo you soon; whoops looks like I just did...again!

  13. Yes its Ron

    Apr 19, 2018, 12:57 #108657

    Great times Marky wasnt it. Bergy scores = no treble. Heart breaking at Villa Park that night. I was dead in line with Giggs as he charged forward praying for somebody to just rip him up. Shattering! The back 4 just got old in those few seconds of Giggs wizardry. A proper Semi venue Villa Park. Arsenal have a fabulous record there esp this last 20 odd years. VP let us down that night though. Utds youthful desire was just to prove too much for our ageing legs that night in truth.

  14. markymark

    Apr 19, 2018, 12:32 #108656

    Looks like a good documentary is going to show on channel 5 ‘The Feud’ based on the Arsenal Man U rivalry . With interviews with a lot of the players. An interesting twist or fact even. UTD’s treble and our Incisible season would not have been possible without both teams missing penalties

  15. Yes its Ron

    Apr 19, 2018, 11:06 #108655

    Ex - hi matey. I understand yr logic and the points made and i also agree that we have a unique situ cos of Wengers longevity. Im not sure, it all be all Arsene Wenger though if we pulled off the EL. The media are already into us too much because of the perennial league failings i feel. I suppose that i cant ever make the leap to wishing for defeats in order to try and hasten another agenda, especially given that the situation that the club have engineered with AW means that theres far from any guarantee that a big defeat would achieve regime change anyway. So, im afraid ill remain wanting us to improve the clubs pretty dire european record, AW s potential accolades or not. Arsenals need for some euro identity transcends any issues over any Coach or any player for me. Its easy for me to take this view though as im only a TV fan now and dont put any money into the club after a lifetime of having done so. Thats my demo v the regime for what its worth, but Arsenal dont give a fig about that i know.

  16. markymark

    Apr 19, 2018, 6:33 #108654

    Cor ToOaW your a genius ain’t yer fella , pure genius. With yer Ooh Mr Wenger lick slurp and yer dangling yer little worm getting Baddie all moist . Yer made me come over all mockney. Ave a nice time away fella , is there one of em rehabs in Murtas? I prefer Clackton myself son. See yer soon Toady boy see yer soon .

  17. TOOAW

    Apr 18, 2018, 23:24 #108653

    Good to see the board are split on the great ones final replacement. And there's me thinking it's the managers fault. Rogers, Todesco, Arteta, Jardim, Enrique, Nagelsmann, Allegri, et all. Any of these lot and we are mid table mediocrity for season after season. Be careful what you wish for fellas. One bad move and we are back into 1984/85. BBA. TOOAW. Time for me to move on for a bit. Over and out. Au revoir people and Nark.

  18. TOOAW

    Apr 18, 2018, 22:46 #108652

    Loving the work of Nark. The drama queen of O.G. Myself and Badarse have you tried up in knots without you even realising. Hook, line, sinker...... Oops there he goes again. Biting on another maggot. See ya Sunday fella. TTFN. Yawn.......

  19. Seven Kings Gooner 1

    Apr 18, 2018, 20:15 #108651

    Highbury Boy, sorry mate, the point I was trying to make was that anyone could turn up at that game and try to get in on the terraces, I was lucky, thousands were not. That's why there was over a 100,000 people at the ground that night. I take it by your ticket number you were seated, I certainly did not have a ticket beforehand and like thousands of others I fought my way into the ground. The point I was making is that scenario would thankfully never happen today.

  20. arrgee

    Apr 18, 2018, 19:47 #108650

    If 26th July is the SECOND qualifying round, then won't the FIRST qualifying round take place before the World Cup final. Should impact Arsenal too much with Armenia, Gabon and Wales not qualifying. Worst case scenario is Mustafi and Xhaka not available. Sooner the better then! Anyway I think Arsenal U23 team would be fine having watched them on Friday.

  21. markymark

    Apr 18, 2018, 19:44 #108649

    Badarse the reason I continually refer to you is because there is a wealth of material. I’m not sure you do things by artifice or just plain old delusion. It’s quite amazing but I think I may actually have stumbled upon a very simple question . That is, do you attend ? Obviously the answer appears to be no. Now before you start going on about others just remember that you and that imbecile ToOaW hold yourself to higher values . You are better supporters than us . You can see things we can’t . That’s why I’ve had great fun asking the same question of you and ToOaW over and over again . You are going surely? I mean c’mon you’re there to support Arsene , you are going surely? Now what was your and ToOaW’s response ? Yes that’s right nothing . It’s embarrassing isn’t ? Looking at your posts I genuinely cannot see any meaningful relationship you have with the modern club. Maybe some sort of passion prior to the purchase of Alan Ball? What an irony it is that those posters who despair , who say my relationship is broken with the club are massively better supporters than you and ToOaW. Further why do you always defer to Ron? What is it with you? For a grown man you appear dreadfully Ill at ease. Why is it important that you post a message similar to Ron? You appear desperate to curry favour . ToOaW , oh dear what can we say about him. 3 months ago he started ending his messages BBA. Now we have a Jamee scenario unravelling . Is he ? Isn’t he? Who knows . All I know is both of you are the forum whack jobs. Homeless on this site , rootless running out of time . Admit it Badarse if you had the choice over attending a Momentum march or going to Arsenal v Man U. Where would you be? Nothing wrong in pursuing a political life but why not leave Arsenal to genuine Arsenal supporters .

  22. 1971 Gooner

    Apr 18, 2018, 18:50 #108648

    Instead of running a poll amongst Arsenal fans about whether Arsene should stay or go next season, why not poll fans of other clubs? That would probably result in a similar 80/20. Nothing like a bit of semantic differential in your inbox of a morning.

  23. Exeter Ex

    Apr 18, 2018, 17:49 #108647

    "the joy of a Cup shouldn't be juxtaposed with the Coach issue". It shouldn't be, Ron, but you know as well as the rest of us it would be. It would be all about Wenger, 'Wenger proves the doubters wrong' and all the rest of it. It would be Wenger's cup, not the club or the fans. And I don't think we'd be 'close to the end of his tenure' if AFC won it either, it'd be a contract extension. It's simply not worth years more of this stasis. This is a unique situation, not comparable with Terry Neill or anyone else. I'm with Bard and others looking for a hammering to hopefully push him towards the exit.

  24. Alsace

    Apr 18, 2018, 17:44 #108646

    I now understand why TOOAW (which stands for The Olfactory Orifice Appreciation of Wenger)has views which he can only have acquired due to some hostile sequalae of injury. In the course of his Southwold-ing duties he has strayed too close to the nuclear power station thereabouts. Perhaps he has been drinking deeply of the outflow there. If Arsenal win the Europa League he will be there, on the rocks, clapping with the Seals.

  25. Highbury Boy

    Apr 18, 2018, 17:35 #108645

    Haven't posted much lately due to apathy surrounding all matters Arsenal/Arsene. Very good article by my favourite sports writer Matthew Syed in today's Times about AW. As some of you may remember I gave up my season ticket after over 50 years when the Board renewed his latest contract. Anyhow Seven Kings posted something about no tickets issued for the WHL game in '71 Well I found half my ticket; 275 Block A Row N East Stand. 15/- .(75p)

  26. Yes its Ron

    Apr 18, 2018, 17:19 #108644

    HI Bard - agree with you until you get to the bit about getting hammered re EL. For me, a win in that is for Arsenal FC not, the fans and not AW or the Board. Many clubs have won it while being torn over the Coach in situ im sure but the joy of a Cup shouldn't be juxtaposed with the Coach issue. Not for me anyway. Moreover, if we did win it, the players and Coach will deserve congrats for adding to the clubs CV, wherever they end up afterwards, perhaps under a new Coach and irrespective of the awful league season. Lets face it, Cups are often won when a club had a poor time in the league. Its always been the case, be it the FAC or the LC, the EL, the old European Cup or the egg cup. WE thought Neill was a bit of a poorish coach didnt we, but how i loved his Cup runs and those Finals, despite the mixed scores we had. You shdt let internals of the club deny yourself the chance to bask in cup glory. It can be a long time before it comes again and AW is close to his tenure end anyway, so why bother wanting defeats in such a big tourny? Not only that, but we could end sup with Mick McCarthy being parachuted in. Then there would be a reason to feel inwardly bilious!!! ha ha . PS People are ignoring Marseille in the EL. They could be the side to beat, not AM.

  27. Yes its Ron

    Apr 18, 2018, 16:37 #108643

    marky - i hear you re social media. As ive mentioned you could be right, but SK is the only voice that counts and he ll know that a large tranch of views on SM are irrational knee jerk reactions and often sheep following sheep, many of whom say thins to curry favour with fellow twatters etc. Im not saying all are in this bracket by any means but im pretty sure a bloke like SK isnt going let any of that shape his perceptions and more than AW will. Social media can shape the conventional media i agree. Mush of SKYs coverage id designed to tip its cap to those who live on SM forums after all, ususlly the under 15s it appears to me. Many match goers have no view at all re the Coach as i read it to be honest. For many, AW will go when he goes. I think he ll only stay for his last yr even if the club do nothing. I think AW is as tired of the media he deals with every day as many of us are over the ways its delivered. That and the obscene money has f----d football. Im not totally sure which has done most damage, the cash or the world and its dog all having 'an opinion'.

  28. MAF

    Apr 18, 2018, 16:20 #108642

    i hope it happens! turmoil? what would you call the current state of affairs..?

  29. Badarse

    Apr 18, 2018, 14:56 #108641

    Nark how many times have you referred to me since I went egg rolling a couple of weeks ago? A dozen? Ask that Corny old so and so, he loves to trawl. You know, the one who pathetically posts in an affected French voice, (not funny). Now I ask you, is that racist? Bet if The Supporter of the Year did the same in an Irish affected voice you'd be frothing like crazy. Now don't be sluggish, just froth a bit more, and try it in frothright fashion, perhaps in a Turkish voice. By the way review the posts today and despite me not wholeheartedly endorsing Ron's views, his are the most rational and balanced. It's probably all down to the marmalade-he is after all the Paddington Bear of the website.

  30. Bard

    Apr 18, 2018, 14:55 #108640

    Markym; I hope you are right. Im just not convinced that social media can effect a change of manager. If you are on the fence about Wenger and I am sure a lot of fans are its fairly easy to spin the season as a 'one off' and argue that Wenger deserves the chance to turn it around after all he has done for the club. A couple of big signings in the summer window ( remember Ozil after the Villa defeat) and many fans will be back on board, crisis over. As I have argued, there is nothing very much to lose keeping him on for the duration of his contract and telling him it wont be renewed if we dont get top 4. Its rubbish to suggest that next season we will be in a relegation fight. Im sure we spend a lot of money in the summer andl be fighting for a top 6/7 place. As long as the season tickets get sold then whether fans attend is immaterial to the finances. Yes there is longer term problem but I dont expect Wenger to be offered another contract unless he does something special. The problem with terminating his contract before his contract ends is Stan being accused of 'disloyalty' after all the loyalty that Wenger has shown. Stan doesn't need more aggro from fans. Sorry mate but I see next season as a slam dunk, Wenger will be here. I really hope Im wrong which is why I cant go along with the hope we win the Ropey Cup. A proper mullering might be the only thing that tips Stan into doing something.

  31. mbg

    Apr 18, 2018, 14:31 #108639

    And could we really be in any more turmoil than we're in ?. Go now wenger your not wanted here.

  32. markymark

    Apr 18, 2018, 13:30 #108638

    Blimey Badarse you maggot breath old bastard ( just thought I’d throw in maggot in as it’s one of your endearing terms) . If your 65 year continual support and refusal to listen to WOBs is based on one visit to an unfinished Emirates . F’ing hell man how little credibility you have left . What’s your longstanding vanguard of the left political support based on? Probably 40 years of voting Conservative. You really are an old fraud .

  33. markymark

    Apr 18, 2018, 13:12 #108637

    Ron - the Bloody WiFi crashed out so my huge rebuttal went flying off into cyberspace . Anyway I disagree . The social media platforms are virtually always 75/25 wanting him out . Oftentimes showing 80/20. Social media increasingly matters as old regimented paper based media becomes increasingly archaic. The official media is falling in line with social media trend not the other way around. Next big issue is that 1/3 are staying away. Now let’s imagine a PR announcement from the club saying , once again we know we have the best , congratulations here is another 3 years. I could see an easy further 5-10k reduction in numbers from what we have at the moment . It could be the tipping point as well with a huge drop in season ticket take up. The club will be looking heavily at social media influencers . They know the score. Those who still attend are not all Wengerphiles . Often they just want to go to a match and not make comments . On a personal note I don’t know any Arsenal supporters who are happy with him. The two whack jobs on this site , never attend so apart from their wasted noise I see little support remaining.

  34. Yes its Ron

    Apr 18, 2018, 12:52 #108636

    lads. You could be both right. Im just basing my feel for it on the basis of what quite a few say to me when i get back amongst old friends, some who still go to the games.Its true, some sort of want change but arent too strongly seeking to push AW out (as if they can have it both ways!), but hope the tide changes in his favour. It depends on when you speak to them. A bad loss and the feelings are stronger and vice versa, hence a vote would be affected the same way i reckon. Eg - a vote the day after the Club get into EL Final and many would vote Arsenes way. Its how football supporters are in the main isnt it.

  35. Exeter Ex

    Apr 18, 2018, 12:13 #108635

    Ron - polls of supporter groups, in national newspapers etc show a vast majority wanting him to leave. Those who actually vocalise wanting him out in some way - even commenting on a website such as this - are a minority, it's true. The empty seats are another indicator of the lack of support for Wenger. So mostly amongst the fanbase it's an apathetic half-hoping that change will just happen somehow rather than actively willing it, but no way Wenger has a majority willing him to stay anymore either.

  36. TonyEvans

    Apr 18, 2018, 12:12 #108634

    Not so sure about that now, Ron. If you could trust the board not to rig the result I reckon there would now be a big majority voting for change. I think Arsenal fans would be much more likely to air their Wenger frustrations on a paper / online survey than they ever will be vocally at the ground. Not going to happen at Arsenal anyway is it!

  37. Yes its Ron

    Apr 18, 2018, 11:53 #108633

    If Arsenal did it Tony, most would support AW. His detractors remain very much in the minority as i see it. A vote would probably be a mindless free for all based on whatever the majority of the voters had heard the night before from SKY pundits and whatever their mates had said on facebook/Twatter 10 mins before! A bit like Brexit!!

  38. markymark

    Apr 18, 2018, 11:11 #108632

    Badarse - brilliant part of the vanguard of change eh! Sounds like you haven’t been since!

  39. TonyEvans

    Apr 18, 2018, 10:28 #108631

    How refreshing to note that Everton are sending out a questionnaire to their fans asking them to rate Sam Allerdyce's tenure to date. It may be just a box ticking exercise but can you imagine anything like that happening at Arsenal where fans are treated with nothing but contempt and are completely ignored by the powers that be.

  40. Badarse

    Apr 18, 2018, 9:53 #108630

    Nark, you are such a good egg. Just to fuel the, 'Oh, he's lying again.', furnace which is the only thing which burns brightly in your arsenal. I went to the E!!!!!!! Stadium as it was being developed on a special invite. Wandered the corridors and insisted that door mats were introduced for the WOR who may attend on certain occasions, like when you go to buy the new shirts. Who would allow some into a pristine Arsenal with dirty footwear. Anyway they refused my request, also the prayer mats for Arsene FC fans. They did put in extra latrines for the frothers though.

  41. peter wain

    Apr 18, 2018, 8:34 #108629

    the problem is that if we get in a relegation fight with this squad's record of folding it will e down hill all the way. If we lose our home form then we are doomed. I do not suppose the owner board (wake them up) gazidis or wenger think that will happen.

  42. markymark

    Apr 18, 2018, 8:25 #108628

    At Least 3 newspapers have run the crowd attendance concern now. So that means somebody is talking again to the press. Whether it’s Ivan running a destabilising agenda I’m not sure . But the Mail , Express, Telegraph are independent from each other so sounds like someone has got on the phone to each journo. I’m just hoping that what Kevin is hearing is true. Personally with big sponsorship deals coming up and an increasingly has been , old looking mediocre manager at the helm. I’d press the button to get a younger tactic savvy man on board .

  43. markymark

    Apr 18, 2018, 7:58 #108627

    ToOaW - I’ve found that when people with your issues come tumbling in. It’s always about them , shouting woe is me , sobbing one minute , threatening the next. Sometimes you have to threaten to call the law to maintain some sort of order, however this is often what they want in their sad lives. And it’s a pain for the rest of the suffering customers ( can you imagine standing next to you with your shower dodging ways and smell of piss) Anyway I’ve found an easier way is to gently say. “ We are really worried about you , we’re going to call an Ambulance” seems to work every time. The alcohol soaked mind suddenly realises. Holy **** it’s a drying out Tank. You Should see them make their excuses and leave. Anyway where you are supposedly based, the off season vino price will probably only be a few euro so no reason to stop . Maybe if you can rouse yourself you might watch the game on telly , **** all chance of you attending in person of course just like the Wenger Boyz. Why not invite Baddie over to see you . I’m sure cheap booze and a chance to reminisce over Mr Wenger , Mr Wenger , lick , slurp will be too good to miss. Much love ttfn

  44. markymark

    Apr 18, 2018, 6:21 #108626

    ToOaW - here are some assumptions,you live on your own , you have a drink problem , you have had at least 5 posting characters , you don’t like many people (misanthrop) , you need to reach out occasionally when you have depressive bouts ( meet me and see the real me) Er no thanks . You’ve probably felt put down , maybe physically assaulted leaving you swinging between aggression and subservience to whoever is nice to you. You now appear to be suggesting your Jamee. Interesting in a way.

  45. TOOAW

    Apr 17, 2018, 23:26 #108625

    This life in Murtas is getting me down. It beats Southwold but only slightly. At least the local ex pats are friendly. Good to see we have a pre season soccer friendly against the champions of England at the Aviva. Good chance to bump into the Maguire fella. Nark won't be allowed as he'll have to supervise the local demo, albeit from the back end. He'll 'probably' enjoy that though.

  46. TOOAW

    Apr 17, 2018, 23:11 #108624

    Nark. It's a sad existence you live. Assumptions, assumptions, assumptions plus more assumptions. All's Welbz that ends Welbz eh fella. See ya Sunday. TTFN.

  47. mbg

    Apr 17, 2018, 23:08 #108623

    Big shout to the lads on here who last season predicted it getting worse, with a sixth or seventh finish, you know who you are, and where are the AKB wengerites who sneered and laughed ? yes the same wenger crap addicts who sneered and laughed at us ever missing out on fourth, or CL, and to Spurs taking the spot, and by finishing above us, yes where are ye ? We want wenger out.

  48. markymark

    Apr 17, 2018, 22:41 #108622

    ToOaW - terrible reply, the truth is becoming clear. Are you attending the match or just wallowing in binge drinking again? When you used to comment that you laughed at the protests. Were you on a street bench with a bottle of Buckie cackling at anything. Now come on Old Man tell us when you and the Wenger Boyz are finally going to turn up at the Emirates? I wouldn’t be surprised if that even involves a flight across to England for you . Seeing as you didn’t have a clue about a Home Counties town such as Aylesbury . I’m betting you’re living a shifty existence in a Ex pat enclave . Racists and Alcoholics the norm .

  49. Paulward

    Apr 17, 2018, 21:03 #108621

    Looks certain we will finish sixth or seventh, so a lower finish than last season ( which itself was our lowest league finish under Wenger), with fewer goals scored, more conceded , more defeats and more empty seats than have been seen in 20 years. Can’t wait to see Wenger and his cronies on the board spin that one in the Summer, sure they ll give it a go though. Try keeping a straight face while telling us what great progress the club are making, Arsène. Wonder what crowd we ll get in the Europa league qualifier ? 15-20000 would be my guess . Will be a timely reminder of how far we have fallen.

  50. TOOAW

    Apr 17, 2018, 20:59 #108620

    Nark. Your confused, lying state holds no boundaries. Is the greatest leaving soon or end of contract???? Answers please. Skirting the issue shows you up yet again eh Scruffy Bonzo.

  51. John F

    Apr 17, 2018, 19:00 #108619

    I can just see it now Arsenal beat Burnley for the sixth place trophy.Queue selfies,lap of honour and one Arsen e Wenger sung by the 30,000 crowd.Arsen e hoisted on the shoulders of Peter Cech who is rubbing his hands on another years contribution to his pension.Wenger claiming this team will challenge for the title and he will be very active in the transfer market for very special players.Kronkee twirling his wig around his head with his false teeth glistening in the sunshine shouting oowee Arsen e you showed them boy.

  52. mbg

    Apr 17, 2018, 18:53 #108618

    Ron, good post, yes on the subject of wally any word ? what's he at now ? is he dead or alive ? he's completely disappeared of the radar, exactly where he should be, and would have done years ago if not been indulged and paid obscene wages he was nowhere near worth, by an old fraud of a manager who himself is not worth £4m a year let alone 10, wally and those like him before and after and indeed now never had and don't have a chance. wenger out now.

  53. markymark

    Apr 17, 2018, 17:58 #108617

    ToOaW - you are going to attend against Athletico aren’t you ? C’mon you and Badarse are Arsene’s biggest fans . Baddie has never attended the Emirates so he needs a helping hand . A guide if you like. C’mon, the Wenger Boyz must be attending surely ?

  54. TOOAW

    Apr 17, 2018, 17:39 #108616

    Ok. So that's all of the negative rubbish out of the way. How's about we go onto win the Europa league and this piece goes straight into the file marked 'total waste of space and time' signed chuckle brothers. haha ha ha ha. Oooo to be.

  55. Alsace

    Apr 17, 2018, 17:37 #108615

    This conundrum has more of the flavour of relegation about it than Eurobore Gloire. The beauty, the unadulterated joy of this scenario is that Wenger is getting to the stage where he is costing the owner some of his valuable money. Neither Mr Gazidis nor the Board wish Mr Wenger to remain in situ - that is why the owner saw fit to publicly humiliate them by announcing a further contract for the creature at or after a meeting with the same BEFORE he announced the decision to his board. Whilst Mr Kroenke, who probably refers to the Board as "the help" clearly could not care what operational difficulties the administration face, or which bunch of untrained, uncoached expensive deadbeats we put on the pitch for these utterly meaningless games, the cluster***k which is developing will cost him money. Is the penny, or should I say " coin with the picture of Abraham Lincoln on it" about to drop with the owner? Is he about to come to sense and se that Wenger us "Un object inutile"? I do hope I got the gender of a useless object wrong. It's a rule which like Wenger, is like an unsharpened pencil.

  56. Yes its Ron

    Apr 17, 2018, 16:53 #108614

    SKG - Thats my view. Imagine it, last game, needing a point away at Huddersfield. ends 2-2. losing 2-1 till the 88 th minute then a pen to grab a point. Cue pandemonium akin to Anfield 89. I d want a ticket to that! We ve not had genuine last game nerves since i dont know when. Bring it on Palace, Brighton et al, we re a comin!

  57. Seven Kings Gooner 1

    Apr 17, 2018, 16:11 #108613

    Sorry Ron - I am normally positive and if Arsene takes up Stan's offer of a "job for life" again next season, it will certainly get much funnier and interesting. The thing with a relegation battle is that it does normally take the season down to the last game - when was the last time we could say that?

  58. mbg

    Apr 17, 2018, 14:37 #108612

    Kevin sixth or seventh it doesn't matter one f*****g iota, but of course some wengerites would be celebrating, Sad or what, yes regardless of where the most unpopular and hated manager in the clubs history finishes we all know his legacy and how he and it will be remembered. We want wenger out we want wenger out.

  59. The Man From UNCLE

    Apr 17, 2018, 14:28 #108611

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  60. Yes its Ron

    Apr 17, 2018, 14:18 #108610

    Yes, Ramseys started to play a better game now since his contract talks are unfolding. Just like that waster Wally used to do. A flurry of goals would often come till he d signed his contract then back to his weak kneed, injured fairy footed ways again till the next contract cycle. Sickening. They should sell Ramsey as well as the Willy cos hes not ever going to be a top quality performer v good sides with his silly flicks and back heels. Arsenal have allowed these types to get away with this so much down the years. Im sure they think the fans are daft and cant see whats going down there.

  61. Exeter Ex

    Apr 17, 2018, 14:06 #108608

    I think SKG makes a good point and it's the logical next step in AFC's decline down the league. Right now they hardly ever beat the 'better' teams home or away and hardly ever beat anyone away from home. So the next obvious step would be struggling to beat lower table teams at home as well for that further drop down the league. Arsene's your man for the job, and Arsenal's the club to let him do it.

  62. peter wain

    Apr 17, 2018, 14:06 #108607

    the problem is that a lack of investment in the previous windows together with the appalling players we did buy means we are well behind the eight ball. Ramsey's contract is just starting Jack looks as if he will have to leave which means our midfield looks woeful. As the lack of balance in the team well mr Wenger stop our fullback playing as wingers and keep a flat back four. This might mean we do not ship as many goals. Also buy 10 players and revitalise the squad do not buy 2/3 as that is a complete waste of time. If we only buy 2/3 we will be in a relegation fight especially if out home form dips. But do not worry our manager will blame the fans.

  63. Yes its Ron

    Apr 17, 2018, 13:38 #108606

    SKG - think positive matey. I reckon the bottom of the PL is far better viewing than the top these days. To be honest, the top of that league has been boring to me for some years. Its the arrogance of that top 5 that grinds my gears. They lose to a lower club and you d think some body had died. They term the matches for a lower club 'a free hit' etc etc. Its not so many years since the teams mid table to the bottom could always beat a top club quite often as they had quality performers themselves. Joining them towards the basement will at least put some meaning to the matches again! Theres a snobbery in that PL and its been there for quite some years. Very distasteful in my view. I used to get to see La Viola (Fiorentina) until a few Seasons back, i dont get over so much now, but if they beat Juve or Milan its accepted that it happens because they have very good players from time to time. Here, the top clubs think its the end of the World and the pundits call for wholesale changes bla bla. Load of utter balls. It needs a few more of that clique at the top to stumble and collapse like AFC have done.

  64. Seven Kings Gooner 1

    Apr 17, 2018, 12:32 #108605

    None of this will matter if the status quo remains the same at the start of next season because the only 6th place we will be concerned with will be 6th from bottom. All the signs are blindingly obvious that a real relegation struggle is Arsene's next battle if he remains. There are much worse teams than Arsenal in the PL I hear you say, well yes there are and most of these so called "worse teams" have beaten us at their home ground. The key games next year will be the home matches against teams in the bottom half of the Premier League and will we be able to win a dozen or so games at home to ensure that we avoid a relegation dog fight. All the other matches will be like the Forest, Newcastle, Brighton, Swansea etc - a procession of capitulations.

  65. TonyEvans

    Apr 17, 2018, 12:22 #108604

    How low will the bar have to go to force the board to act and sack him (I have long since given up on Wenger doing the decent thing and resigning) - will finishing below Burnley be low enough? Even the king of excuses would struggle to explain that one away and yet I am sure Wenger will come up with something! All I am hoping for now is a stuffing by Athletico, swiftly followed by losing to Burnley and us finising 7th - at least this may force the board to do something - although I won't hold my breath.

  66. Gunner Rob

    Apr 17, 2018, 11:02 #108602

    just about time the European competitions kicked off a bit later in the summer.

  67. RobG

    Apr 17, 2018, 10:34 #108601

    Good bit of sleuthing there Kev. Gazedis will be fretting until the final kick. Or maybe not, if Atletico take us to the cleaners ?